George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

[Lisa]

Couple of things I'd like to add to this whole equation.

1. The tearing down of statues, while I think is a good thing, is merely symbolic and really does absolutely nothing to solve the problem. In fact I think it simply enrages the other side. The banning of Confederate flags at Nascar is only supported by around 30% of Nascar fans, and I've seen one Nascar driver say he is quitting over this. So I'm not convinced that this isn't simply another bit of fuel to the fire. Then we have useless and frankly cringe pieces of symbolism like bandaid now producing dark brown bandaids instead of pink, black bachelor, and Nanci Pelosi kneeling in African Kente cloth. Like wtf ? How does any of that help race relations or the economic and social plight of black people ?

2. I'm also not convinced that all these people have not been drawn out to protest for the very purpose of mass spreading Covid, perhaps a more deadly strain. It would seem to make sense, especially considering you would be targeting primarily black people and white liberals. Two demographics of people the deep state would certainly not mind dwindling down in population.

1.) The tearing down of statues doesn’t solve anything..and proves these people live in the past that they can’t look at them without being upset.

The nascar driver did quit and..

NASCAR Truck Series driver stands by decision to retire over flag ban

Ray Ciccarelli, the NASCAR Truck Series driver who vowed to retire after the Confederate flag was banned from races, says his family has been 'abused' on social media in the wake of his comments.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Nancy pelosi and her ilk knelt to show the president up and use that in their election campaign...its called pandering.

2.) If covid really was as dangerous...all those spring breakers at the beach in Florida would have brought it home to their families. We didn’t hear that they did. Lots of people soaking up the beaches everyday and we don’t hear that covid has spiked because of it...like they said it would. Its a hoax for the reason that Maher said it would be for...

Maher: I'm "Hoping" For "A Crashing Economy" So We Can Get Rid Of Trump, "Bring On The Recession"

Bill Maher said Friday that he is "hoping" for the bottom to fall out on the economy and for the country to enter a recession so we can "get rid of Trump." He said one way to do that is a "crashing economy." Maher said he is "sorry" if it hurts people, but rooting for a recession is a prevention...

www.realclearpolitics.com

 

[justjess]

They didn't show this snippet on CNN or the Washington Post:

Conveniently no audio, huh? The man is handcuffed and at the end of this video in the car. Reports said he was complaining he couldn’t breathe and falling down - a medical issue Is possible. Regardless you can’t justify use of deadly force against an unarmed handcuffed man.

 

[thursdayafternoon]

Conveniently no audio, huh? The man is handcuffed and at the end of this video in the car. Reports said he was complaining he couldn’t breathe and falling down - a medical issue Is possible. Regardless you can’t justify use of deadly force against an unarmed handcuffed man.

you're a woman. you sympathize with someone who beat a woman. even if this man is a victim of anything, there is a woman who is his victim (even a lot of people). because this is not about defending the oppressed. it's politics.

 

[Lisa]

you're a woman. you sympathize with someone who beat a woman. even if this man is a victim of anything, there is a woman who is his victim (even a lot of people). because this is not about defending the oppressed. it's politics.

She’s for abortion..

 

[UnderAlienControl]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1272591711412183041

 

[justjess]

you're a woman. you sympathize with someone who beat a woman. even if this man is a victim of anything, there is a woman who is his victim (even a lot of people). because this is not about defending the oppressed. it's politics.

Lmao... cops don’t have the right to kill people who aren’t a threat to their life. GTFOH with all this nonsense.

 

[justjess]

She’s for abortion..

Stop trying to bait me Lisa. We have laws. Abortion happens to be legal, murder on the other hand is not. You just watched a murder live on video. You think it’s ok because he was high or used a fake $20 bill - allegedly. You’d throw our entire justice system out the window - innocent until proven guilty, punishment fits the crime etc. on top of the fact Minnesota doesn’t have the death penalty at all.

 

[irrationalNinja]

How does any of that help race relations or the economic and social plight of black people ?

Good point. Visuals you mention are not designed to help. They are designed to push the SJW narrative founded on Critical Theory, which says for social change to take place, all previous traditions and institutions must be criticized and replaced with "The Narrative." The monuments are no different.

Case in point: monuments of abolitionists (people who fought against slavery and for the rights of blacks) are being defaced at the same rate as the so-called racists.

Mattias Baldwin - fought for the rights of blacks 30 years before slavery was abolished.

John Greenleaf Whittier. Memorialized as the founder of the anti-slavery Liberty party and recognized for his extensive body of work concerning the ABOLITION of slavery.

Certainly makes a good argument that BLM/Antifa and their supporters are dumb as fuck.

 

[thursdayafternoon]

Lmao... cops don’t have the right to kill people who aren’t a threat to their life. GTFOH with all this nonsense.

I didn't discuss this issue in my last post. Don't miss the question I asked. Why is the woman who is the victim of that man less important? How can someone who beats a woman and commits many violent crimes become a civil rights idol? Is there a civil rights issue only when the police force is severe? What about woman rights? This is just policy.

 

[Lisa]

Stop trying to bait me Lisa. We have laws. Abortion happens to be legal, murder on the other hand is not. You just watched a murder live on video. You think it’s ok because he was high or used a fake $20 bill - allegedly. You’d throw our entire justice system out the window - innocent until proven guilty, punishment fits the crime etc. on top of the fact Minnesota doesn’t have the death penalty at all.

Ya..I never said murder was ok. I think I’m the only one who thinks he’s innocent until proven guilty. He’s already been fired..so that’s guilty right there. Add to it that chauvin won’t be able to get a fair trial anywhere in the world..he’s going to prison where he could die.

All I have said since the beginning is that Floyd should have paid with a real bill and not fake and the police wouldn’t have been called. That’s reasonable. He would have got his cigarettes and change, walked off and that would have been that. If the store clerk didn’t think it was fake..they wouldn’t have called the police..but they thought it was fake and per their policy they called the police.

If you can’t see that murdering your child is murder..than how can you see that what Floyd did was wrong too? Why would you care if he pointed a gun at a pregnant woman when he invaded her home? But you want to focus on he possibly could have gave a fake $20 and got killed for it...like he didn’t do anything wrong..which he did. He gave a fake bill, was high and it looks in some videos that he resisted arrest. My point is I’d like to see a video from the whole time..not just certain videos that don’t tell the whole story and then it would be easier to say one way or another. I don’t know that he is guilty because if he’s resisting arrest...that’s a whole other issue.

 

[Lisa]

Good point. Visuals you mention are not designed to help. They are designed to push the SJW narrative founded on Critical Theory, which says for social change to take place, all previous traditions and institutions must be criticized and replaced with "The Narrative." The monuments are no different.

Case in point: monuments of abolitionists (people who fought against slavery and for the rights of blacks) are being defaced at the same rate as the so-called racists.

Mattias Baldwin - fought for the rights of blacks 30 years before slavery was abolished.

John Greenleaf Whittier. Memorialized as the founder of the anti-slavery Liberty party and recognized for his extensive body of work concerning the ABOLITION of slavery.

Certainly makes a good argument that BLM/Antifa and their supporters are dumb as fuck.

It isn’t any different than holding onto they were once slaves..when they weren’t slaves..their ancestors were but there was a war fought and their ancestors were freed to be free men...they don’t see that either.

 

[Lyfe]

CHAZ OCCUPIER SUGGESTS ‘ROUNDING UP ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE’ INTO WORK BRIGADES

CHAZ Occupier Suggests ‘Rounding Up All the White People’ into Work Brigades

www.infowars.com

 

[Maes17]

CHAZ OCCUPIER SUGGESTS ‘ROUNDING UP ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE’ INTO WORK BRIGADES

CHAZ Occupier Suggests ‘Rounding Up All the White People’ into Work Brigades

www.infowars.com

At this point I’m for some troops to start using force.
The rioters are out of fucking hand already.

 

[Maes17]

Good point. Visuals you mention are not designed to help. They are designed to push the SJW narrative founded on Critical Theory, which says for social change to take place, all previous traditions and institutions must be criticized and replaced with "The Narrative." The monuments are no different.

Case in point: monuments of abolitionists (people who fought against slavery and for the rights of blacks) are being defaced at the same rate as the so-called racists.

Mattias Baldwin - fought for the rights of blacks 30 years before slavery was abolished.

John Greenleaf Whittier. Memorialized as the founder of the anti-slavery Liberty party and recognized for his extensive body of work concerning the ABOLITION of slavery.

Certainly makes a good argument that BLM/Antifa and their supporters are dumb as fuck.

They’re fucking stupid. Worthless moochers who cannot work for their own stuff so have to riot/steal.

This isn’t even about injustice/inequality anymore. It’s just a bunch of lazy methed out tweakers causing trouble cause they got a free pass into baiting people to feel guilty for the “cause”.

 

[Lyfe]

What I am wondering is

At this point I’m for some troops to start using force.
The rioters are out of fucking hand already.

In that video I posted it showed there are some individuals in Chaz armed with rifles and pistols. Its basically an illegal occuption anyways. I wonder how they will respond when they are forced to clear the area.

 

[Maes17]

What I am wondering is


In that video I posted it showed there are some individuals in Chaz armed with rifles and pistols. Its basically an illegal occuption anyways. I wonder how they will respond when they are forced to clear the area.

I saw that. Will not go down well

 

[Lyfe]

I saw that. Will not go down well

Chaz could be a psy op altogether and occupied with provocateurs. It could spark the first battle of a civil war once they are told to stand down.

 

[Lyfe]

Seattle law enforcement experts urge police to take back CHAZ before it's too late

Law enforcement officials are urging the Seattle Police Department to retake control of the East Precinct after hundreds of demonstrators overtook Monday the six-block area that surrounds it.

www.foxnews.com

Seattle law enforcement experts urge police to take back CHAZ before it's too late

 

[justjess]

I didn't discuss this issue in my last post. Don't miss the question I asked. Why is the woman who is the victim of that man less important? How can someone who beats a woman and commits many violent crimes become a civil rights idol? Is there a civil rights issue only when the police force is severe? What about woman rights? This is just policy.

You are so desperate to deflect its like a stench emitting from all your pores...

No one said the victim - the woman - was less important. This isn’t about that crime. He wasn’t killed during the commission of that crime. He was killed following the attempted commission of a non violent crime. He went to jail for the crime your speaking of and served his time for that already. That victim got her justice.

if it was policy for police to murder unarmed suspects while their handcuffed the officers wouldn’t have been fired and they wouldn’t be facing charges. If that was policy shit would have been burning down a long time ago.

 

[justjess]

Ya..I never said murder was ok. I think I’m the only one who thinks he’s innocent until proven guilty. He’s already been fired..so that’s guilty right there. Add to it that chauvin won’t be able to get a fair trial anywhere in the world..he’s going to prison where he could die.

All I have said since the beginning is that Floyd should have paid with a real bill and not fake and the police wouldn’t have been called. That’s reasonable. He would have got his cigarettes and change, walked off and that would have been that. If the store clerk didn’t think it was fake..they wouldn’t have called the police..but they thought it was fake and per their policy they called the police.

If you can’t see that murdering your child is murder..than how can you see that what Floyd did was wrong too? Why would you care if he pointed a gun at a pregnant woman when he invaded her home? But you want to focus on he possibly could have gave a fake $20 and got killed for it...like he didn’t do anything wrong..which he did. He gave a fake bill, was high and it looks in some videos that he resisted arrest. My point is I’d like to see a video from the whole time..not just certain videos that don’t tell the whole story and then it would be easier to say one way or another. I don’t know that he is guilty because if he’s resisting arrest...that’s a whole other issue.

I never said what Floyd did wasn’t wrong. If you people could stop making up arguments out of thin air to debunk it would be fantastic. I said it wasn’t a crime that was worthy of a death sentence.

how can someone be resisting arrest when they are already handcuffed and unarmed? How does that justify murder? It doesn’t. Suffocating someone for over eight minutes goes against use of force policy - so he was fired. Just like anyone breaking their employers policy would be.

I’m not going to argue with you about abortion. We’ve been doing it for years and neither of us is going to change our position. You believe life begins at conception. I do not. We both have our reasons for our beliefs and that’s that.