Elites want gun control?

[Hon33]

People like to shoot guns..for target practice or for hunting. I actually thought I’d be one of those that liked to shoot guns..for like target practice not for hunting, but I hated it when I tried it. Its too violent for me.

Target practice is one thing. Shooting animals for fun is something else all together.

You gave up your right to protect yourselves with guns to save the children..they thought it would work well for sandy hook here...and I thought that was how the Australian’s gave up their guns too. Whether that was give them up or tough gun restrictions.

I have read many comments and it seems that if you defend yourself against thieves...you could be the one to go to jail..that’s what I have deduced anyway. That it seems life in Britain has become easier for thieves in that sense. I could be wrong...but so many comments say otherwise.

If you take a life - even in self-defence - why would you not be held accountable for it? Its a bit of a drastic measure to shoot a thief who is not armed.
I wouldn’t want to live with killing someone, no matter how justified others might think it is.

 

[Hon33]

Would you say the same thing for the "sport" of Archery?

Mike Pence's WestPoint grad speech as he listed future theaters of war: "some of you may even be called upon to serve in this hemisphere."

Not if it’s used in sport and strictly controlled - like shooting can be. I don’t consider professional sport to be strictly fun.
I’m not of the opinion, everyone and anyone should be allowed to have crossbows.
As far as I’m aware, there are strict laws in the U.K. regarding archery too.

 

[Lisa]

Target practice is one thing. Shooting animals for fun is something else all together.




If you take a life - even in self-defence - why would you not be held accountable for it? Its a bit of a drastic measure to shoot a thief who is not armed.
I wouldn’t want to live with killing someone, no matter how justified others might think it is.

I didn’t say I liked to do it..but I knew classmates from high school who went on hunting trips..they enjoyed it.

I guess it would have to be in self defense that you would take a life. Flight or fight response. Idk what I would do, since I’m not armed...but there are many people in the US that take that seriously. I think that’s the real reason people like to own them..they hope that it might be a deterrent, all you have to do is have a gun and maybe the criminal would run away when you brought it out.

 

[vancityeagle]

I think eventually down the road they dont want anybody having guns. I cannot picture a distopian future world with a surveillance grid that has armed citizens, HOWEVER that is in the future. As for now, I am of the opinion that the elites in their machinations and plotting have something specifically planned for the US which will revolve around civil conflict and the widespread availability of guns. They clearly want specific parts of the population (read Q-tards, Trump supporters, militias) to be armed. And these people will be used by the elites to serve an agenda. Of this I am positive.

 

[Hon33]

I didn’t say I liked to do it..but I knew classmates from high school who went on hunting trips..they enjoyed it.

I guess it would have to be in self defense that you would take a life. Flight or fight response. Idk what I would do, since I’m not armed...but there are many people in the US that take that seriously. I think that’s the real reason people like to own them..they hope that it might be a deterrent, all you have to do is have a gun and maybe the criminal would run away when you brought it out.

I don’t have time to look for it now, however there is evidence which shows that owning a weapon actually makes you more of a target than acting as a deterrent.
If you produce a gun or knife or whatever else, it’s more likely you’ll be shot or stabbed first.

 

[Lisa]

I don’t have time to look for it now, however there is evidence which shows that owning a weapon actually makes you more of a target than acting as a deterrent.
If you produce a gun or knife or whatever else, it’s more likely you’ll be shot or stabbed first.

No one wants to get shot...not even a thief. I can’t see how it would make you a target..your neighbor without a gun...now that’s a target you can count on.

 

[justjess]

Because the thief knows before hand which home has a gun? Lol...

 

[Lisa]

Because the thief knows before hand which home has a gun? Lol...

He might if he’s been checking out the houses he’s gonna steal from.

That winter storm doesn’t seem to have lasted long?

 

[justjess]

He might if he’s been checking out the houses he’s gonna steal from.

That winter storm doesn’t seem to have lasted long?

How would he? Are the owners of the home parading around their yard wielding their weapons?

You case a home to know when people are usually home and when the house is usually empty. Haven’t you ever even watched a movie about crime?

It is still cold but the snow didn’t last long.

 

[Lisa]

How would he? Are the owners of the home parading around their yard wielding their weapons?

You case a home to know when people are usually home and when the house is usually empty. Haven’t you ever even watched a movie about crime?

It is still cold but the snow didn’t last long.

Ya, I read that the snow didn’t last long..that’s good.

Idk, how criminals operate...I’m not one.

 

[justjess]

Ya, I read that the snow didn’t last long..that’s good.

Idk, how criminals operate...I’m not one.

Then maybe don’t posit uneducated opinions on the matter?

 

[Lisa]

Then maybe don’t posit uneducated opinions on the matter?

What’s uneducated about thinking that a criminal wouldn’t want to get shot? I don’t think many people want to get shot..so I would think they would hope that the house they rob has no one who knows how to use a gun in it. But, then I think..if you have to get your gun out of a gun safe or some thing and then put the bullets in it...you’re behind right there...haha, but what do I know?

 

[justjess]

What’s uneducated about thinking that a criminal wouldn’t want to get shot? I don’t think many people want to get shot..so I would think they would hope that the house they rob has no one who knows how to use a gun in it. But, then I think..if you have to get your gun out of a gun safe or some thing and then put the bullets in it...you’re behind right there...haha, but what do I know?

Too easy...

Criminals generally do not know if there is a gun in a home before they rob it Lisa. Very few gun owners post signs announcing the fact. I have my own theories as to why but that’s neither here nor there. They case a home to see the families schedule so they can break in when they are least likely to be home to decrease the chance of meeting any resistance as much as possible. They look for dogs. Alarm systems.

Tbh most people would do better to prevent robberies by investing in a mean looking dog that barks a lot, an automatic lighting system that makes it look like their home when they aren’t, and an alarm. Way more effective deterrents then a gun somewhere that the criminal doesn’t even know exists.

 

[Hon33]

Because the thief knows before hand which home has a gun? Lol...

You’re so funny!
In actual fact, they believe the clue is in the word “first” at the end of the sentence.
If you produce a weapon to defend yourself, hoping it will make the thief think twice and run away, you’d be wrong. It is likely to increases the likelihood that you will be shot or stabbed first by the other person.
There is also the likelihood, that carrying a weapon leads a person to take more risks than they might otherwise take - go places which are more dangerous, argue back when you might otherwise have walked away etc.

 

[justjess]

You’re so funny!
In actual fact, they believe the clue is in the word “first” at the end of the sentence.
If you produce a weapon to defend yourself, hoping it will make the thief think twice and run away, you’d be wrong. It is likely to increases the likelihood that you will be shot or stabbed first by the other person.
There is also the likelihood, that carrying a weapon leads a person to take more risks than they might otherwise take - go places which are more dangerous, argue back when you might otherwise have walked away etc.

If you pull a gun on a thief who has a gun you are definitely going to get shot. I agree. They aren’t just going to tuck their tail and run away.

 

[Maes17]

There is a reason police departments have militarized. And it's not to keep the average citizen safe.

If it gets to a shtf scenario they’ll keep us in check. Say what you want about us civilians being armed, but there is no way we stand a chance against our gov.

The scenarios seem entertaining and sticking it to the man is a mental boner. But realistically, we are getting smeared like a spoonful of peanut butter in a pre school cafeteria

 

[Aero]

If it gets to a shtf scenario they’ll keep us in check. Say what you want about us civilians being armed, but there is no way we stand a chance against our gov.

The scenarios seem entertaining and sticking it to the man is a mental boner. But realistically, we are getting smeared like a spoonful of peanut butter in a pre school cafeteria

Lol. No chance in a conventional war anyway.

America would be a perfect place for urban guerilla warfare though.

 

[Maes17]

Lol. No chance in a conventional war anyway.

America would be a perfect place for urban guerilla warfare though.

I don’t think guerilla tactics would work here either honestly. I can see guerilla warfare working to the elites advantage like using civil war. Let the majority of the population go at it and kill each other then pick off the survivors.

When you go up against trained forces. They have surveillance, strategies etc.

Just like I think a lot of these big cartel guys.
If our government really wanted to take them out. They would. It’s all money/profit keeping them around. Their guerilla tactics are all at creating rifts civil war amongst it’s citizens

 

[Aero]

I don’t think guerilla tactics would work here either honestly. I can see guerilla warfare working to the elites advantage like using civil war. Let the majority of the population go at it and kill each other then pick off the survivors.

When you go up against trained forces. They have surveillance, strategies etc.

Just like I think a lot of these big cartel guys.
If our government really wanted to take them out. They would. It’s all money/profit keeping them around. Their guerilla tactics are all at creating rifts civil war amongst it’s citizens

Guerilla warfare beat us in Vietnam though. We had all the tech and got beat by dudes with AK-47s

The point is to wear the opponent down through attrition. Basically don't engage except to harass, and stay mobile so we don't get bombed.

 

[justjess]

Guerilla warfare beat us in Vietnam though. We had all the tech and got beat by dudes with AK-47s

The point is to wear the opponent down through attrition. Basically don't engage except to harass, and stay mobile so we don't get bombed.

Disadvantage in Vietnam is we didn’t know the terrain and we didn’t know the enemy. They have decades of psychological intel on the American populace and google satellite imaging maps and live views that make the terrain 100% knowable.