Elites want gun control?

[thursdayafternoon]

If the Illuminati want social chaos, how will people fight without weapons?

 

[vancityeagle]

If the Illuminati want social chaos, how will people fight without weapons?

exactly.

 

[kittybratxx]

Mass shooting false flags. Madonna's God Control etc.

But why?

They want people as weak and vulnerable as possible it makes them easier to control

Be careful they want us all to become vegan too, and with the way thing's are looking in the meat industry recently it doesn't look promising for our health

 

[shankara]

In any case, however well-armed the US population are, they stand no chance against a military which is funded to the tune of $800bn per year.

 

[thursdayafternoon]

People say false flags to take away gun rights.

So do you think "false flags" are real attacks? or what's the point? Why did the illuminati priestess madonna film that video? (God Control)

 

[Karlysymon]

In any case, however well-armed the US population are, they stand no chance against a military which is funded to the tune of $800bn per year.

 

[Lisa]

what percentage of American gun owners do you seriously think will organize to fight against the government ?

It will be a very small percentage, and they will be extremists who have been ideologically programmed. They can easily be pacified from "hating the gov" so long as you give them a Trump like figure to follow.

if they even were to take their arms against the government, they would be doing so in a limited fashion to attack the political enemies of the far right.

I have no idea...but we know people who have guns just in case..

I think that you’re wrong..it will be the law abiding citizens that don’t want their freedoms taken away and they may be willing to fight for that...we shall see..its easy to say you will in a hypothetical situation.

 

[vancityeagle]

So do you think "false flags" are real attacks? or what's the point? Why did the illuminati priestess madonna film that video? (God Control)

The big ones are carried out by Intel agencies using patsies or dupes. Some are probably real.

The point ? there are probably multiple reasons, creating fear and tension, police state and surveillance agendas, to gain up the militia movements, exacerbate clash of civilization agendas and civil war tensions.

Sometimes these attacks I think also serve as threats to certain governments.

 

[thursdayafternoon]

exacerbate clash of civilization agendas

Yes Orlando nightclub shooting is definitely for this. Gays/liberals/secularists versus straights/muslims or christians

 

[justjess]

Americans don’t own guns to fight the government. Can’t fight a tank with a gun. Americans own guns to fight other Americans in the event the government decides to turn against us so that they can be at the top of the shit pile pyramid.

 

[free2018]

Mass shooting false flags. Madonna's God Control etc.

But why?

Order out of chaos.
If people really understood who the Elite were, they would eliminate them tonight.
Having guns and being asleep means nothing.

 

[Maes17]

those guns aren't going to be used against any government, more likely they will be used on fellow Americans.

No matter how armed we are as citizens. Our government would mop the floor with us. Tanks, bombs, drones vs Del McCourey and the dixie pals. I’d take the tanks and bombs any day of the week.

 

[free2018]

No matter how armed we are as citizens. Our government would mop the floor with us. Tanks, bombs, drones vs Del McCourey and the dixie pals. I’d take the tanks and bombs any day of the week.

On the one hand, I agree with you, but I like to think about Afghanistan when we just write off people's willingness to fight against more powerful forces.

 

[Maes17]

On the one hand, I agree with you, but I like to think about Afghanistan when we just write off people's willingness to fight against more powerful forces.

Difference between us and afghanistan though is I don’t think people would become suicide bombers.

There’s a willingness to fight, but the government is more advanced than we realize. They hide stuff from us as is.

 

[vancityeagle]

Difference between us and afghanistan though is I don’t think people would become suicide bombers.

There’s a willingness to fight, but the government is more advanced than we realize. They hide stuff from us as is.

exactly.

The idea that the average pampered first worlder would organize and carry out armed resistance against the government is laughable.

Like I said the only people who would do this kind of thing in America are extremists who have been brought up believing they need to overthrow the government for whatever reason.

Afghanistan is different because

a) they were invaded by a foreign power
b) they are way more hardened in life, life isn't so precious
c) they had recently experienced civil war and war from other invaders (Russia)

there will never be a massive resistance in America. Not unless tPTb do something very drastic, and even then its still unlikely.

as someone said , having guns and being asleep is pointless.

most of these militia types think Trump is a good guy. The whole thing is a joke.

 

[free2018]

Difference between us and afghanistan though is I don’t think people would become suicide bombers.

There’s a willingness to fight, but the government is more advanced than we realize. They hide stuff from us as is.

I hear you. Americans are individualists for the most part, but there are plenty of people willing to die for what they believe in.
I talk to these guys every day.
I'll give you an example. In cities like NY, things could go left for the cops quickly in some neighborhoods as crime picks up the pace. In the 90's, there were neighborhoods where the cops never went. I also have heard of veterans who are now civilians getting a full arsenal of automatic weapons in a few hours to take people out. Despair, anger and hatred go a long way.
The evil behind the power is very organized. I'll stop so this stays on topic.

 

[Johnny5]

On the one hand, I agree with you, but I like to think about Afghanistan when we just write off people's willingness to fight against more powerful forces.

This. They have fought/held off the Russians and the U.S. Also, that argument about gov having more might is like saying "A bully is going to bully me anyway, so I might as well let it happen and not stand up for myself."

 

[AlcyoneSong]

It is foolish to say a gun will save me. It is also foolish to say I trust the government looks out for me. We know that Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in the country, yet it also has the highest homicide rate of gun violence in the country. Why? Because Gun Legislation doesn't work when the country is oversaturated with guns that getting them illegally is like entry level thug life. Who cares if the gun is stolen, once a murder is done? The dead man can't do anything about it and by the time the cops find it, tracing it to the original owner will often lead nowhere.
Sandy Hook is an example of how Gun Legislation has little effectiveness against stupidity and bad parenting. The mother bought the guns for her son, they went shooting together. She bought into the lie, into the misconception, and thought that doing this "manly" empowering thing would somehow help her son out of his sociopathic tendencies. All it did was give him a tool to go kill a bunch of kids, and her. You can't legislate against that. She had no prior record, and since she was the one who purchased the weapon a mental health background check would have done nothing either.
Orlando was a similar situation, the man had no prior record, nor any known record of mental illness.
And as far as Canada goes, they win the medal this year for mass shootings so far.

Bottom line, the UK and Australia was able to have strict gun control because a) the market wasn't saturated with guns to begin with b)guns were still difficult to obtain legally because the UK does not have the same rights as Americans so the gov could make it difficult for dealers to get into the country to sell. I'm not sure what the deal is with Australia beyond perhaps population and just general accessibility of firearms because the dealers can't break into the market or what. It could also just be a culture that is not as freaked out and paranoid about things. The outback will kill you before a man with a gun. However, in hindsight I think I'd want a strong rifle if I had to come face to face with a 15' saltwater croc with a grudge. Fucking dinosaurs.

But here... nah I'd rather not deal with the high risk of someone accidentally shooting themselves and/or someone stealing my guns and adding to the already large number of illegal guns out there.

 

[Wigi]

When your youth have an epidemic of mental illness, you should ask yourself if gun control in itself makes a difference regarding criminality.
However I have yet to see how guns brought more good than evil during the approx 200 years of US existence. I know there is a second amendement and gun culture is well established so it's pretty clear for me that our elites don't need to remove guns when instead they can make you believe that holding a gun is more important than freedom of speech or for example, the health you should have had as the wealthiest country in the world today.
Yet no one bats an eye as long as they have their GuNs .

 

[justjess]

This. They have fought/held off the Russians and the U.S. Also, that argument about gov having more might is like saying "A bully is going to bully me anyway, so I might as well let it happen and not stand up for myself."

Some people seem to romanticize the idea of fighting back against a corrupt government. I guarantee you very very few of them are actually going to run and pull their shotgun out when the tanks are rolling towards their door.

How many people stand up to bullies that are clearly bigger and stronger then they are? In my experience it’s a rare breed that will. That doesn’t mean don’t stand up for yourself, there are ways to stand up for yourself that don’t require a suicide mission.