Elites want gun control?

Maes17

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Some people seem to romanticize the idea of fighting back against a corrupt government. I guarantee you very very few of them are actually going to run and pull their shotgun out when the tanks are rolling towards their door.

How many people stand up to bullies that are clearly bigger and stronger then they are? In my experience it’s a rare breed that will. That doesn’t mean don’t stand up for yourself, there are ways to stand up for yourself that don’t require a suicide mission.
A tank rolls towards my door, I drop the AR, attempt to try to talk/stall. Hopefully buy whatever time I have for my group to escape or think of something.

Now fist fighting, I’ve fought guys bigger, stronger than me growing up. I’m not the type to back away from anyone if the situation arises. But that’s a different situation than a tank at the door lol.
 
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guns will be for a civil war, not a removal of government.

people have said it and I will keep saying it, they will be used on fellow American citizens, and not government.

they have been increasing the division and hatred between "left" and "right", "black" and "white" It seems obvious to me that they are trying to orchestrate some kind of "civil war" or great civil unrest.

You can even see how they are doing this with this whole Coronavirus situation. People with guns harassing frontline workers, and threatening state governors.

all these guns with the decades of built up divisive rhetoric and politics is one big recipe for disaster.

I think back to Alex Jones, twice telling his listeners to "grab their guns" and "defend their neighourhoods" as Antifa is planning a "second Bolshevik revolution" :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

that alone was plenty of reason for him to be kicked off youtube.
 

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When your youth have an epidemic of mental illness, you should ask yourself if gun control in itself makes a difference regarding criminality.
However I have yet to see how guns brought more good than evil during the approx 200 years of US existence. I know there is a second amendement and gun culture is well established so it's pretty clear for me that our elites don't need to remove guns when instead they can make you believe that holding a gun is more important than freedom of speech or for example, the health you should have had as the wealthiest country in the world today.
Yet no one bats an eye as long as they have their GuNs .
I would love to see where you think America is the wealthiest country in the world. Go on, cite your sources as to how wealthy we are as a nation. We are not wealthy. Our wealth is unequally distributed and the middle class has been bearing the burden of supporting the poor while the elite go on their merry way.
Also you can't compare 200 years of American history with modern events. Shit you can't even compare 100 years of American history with today. 100 years ago, a farmer, a cattleman, a frontiersman NEEDED a gun to survive, and no I'm not talking about First Nation warfare but simply defending your livestock from predators, bandits, and those who saw $$$ in stealing your shit before the lawman arrived. People still live in remote areas and yes, guns are sorta a requirement. So your straw man doesn't work here.
Likewise, using a straw man about "Your YOUTH have an epidemic of Mental Illness" is also BS, the reason it's news is because it always comes out later that the white kid that shot up the school had a history of mental illness and the enabling parent/caregiver gave in or had a gun on premises that the kid used to do the deed.
Mental Illness is an epidemic but it's not limited to age, we have soldiers coming home from war, we have children who are dealing with poverty and institutionalized racist policy, we have people who are living hand to mouth existences in Appalachia and live in "homes" that are nothing more than shacks that could be seen in any third world country.
America is NOT wealthy at all.
As of 2020 America is actually 10th in the world in regards to wealth. Even though we have the largest "economy" as in we buy a lot of shit, we don't produce and generate money for the amount of shit we buy. Our businesses outsource the work to China and other countries to keep the prices down so American's can buy the stuff, but that just means we aren't producing and the disparity between the haves and have nots grows wider. Compared to Qatar that has oil and natural resources which we consume to make everything from plastics to run our cars. Source: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-richest-countries-in-the-world.html
ankCountryGDP Per Capita (USD )
1Qatar132,890
2Luxembourg108,950
3Singapore103,180
4Ireland83,400
5Brunei80,380
6Norway76,680
7United Arab Emirates69,430
8Kuwait66,390
9Switzerland66,200
10United States65,110
 

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If normal people dont have weapons, how do we protect ourselves from monsters at the top of the pyramid.

She wasn't carved up. She wasn't tortured ala MS-13 or Mexican Cartels. She was shot in her car, because she wore a Police Uniform. Nothing more, nothing less. She was assassinated perhaps, but it wasn't to make an "example" in the Cartel sense. Shit if it was Cartel, she would have been burned in her car. They don't do things in halves. This was an attack on a black woman who was a cop, who was doing her job. She was the personification of the "Woke" movement, so if anything, this was an attack on that. How dare a black woman be a cop?! It goes against our victim complex! How dare she even be a detective! It goes against our persecution complex! I don't think there is a conspiracy here, just someone who had a grudge and took it out on her.

Going on about "Frazzledrip" is BS too. Is there a snuff video about people torturing and killing a girl? Probably. Are those people Hillary and Huma? Maybe if the people making that video wanted to do some sort of sick attack and used actors to look like them. We know that human trafficking and child abusers know no limits to the crap they produce so the video probably does exist, because the audience exists to watch it. Do they make it look like a ritual, probably. We know that there is a problem in Africa with ritual killing of children to make the gods do stuff. But to connect Hillary with this, it's a big BIG stretch. You all give her way too much credit.
 
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- It worked in the UK after a mind-controlled individual killed 16 small children and their teacher in Dunblane, Scotland on March 13, 1996. About 10 months later, parliamentary laws were passed that said that possessing a gun in the UK meant 10 years in prison. Legislation was passed even faster in Australia when a gunman armed with an assault rifle killed 35 and wounded 19 in a massacre in Tasmania, Australia on March 28, 1996-just two weeks after the Dunblane shootings. (Coincidence that these two massacres occured in quick succession of each other? Hardly.)

Video discusses the obvious similarities of Dunblane and Sandy Hook.

Did Australia have a gun problem? No.
Did Australia have a high incidence of gun related deaths prior to new gun law? No.
Did gun confiscation increase crime in Australia? Yes.
 
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You can't control an entire country with tanks, jets, and drones. You can't have a tank on the street corner enforcing non assembly laws to civilians. The government isnt going to send a tank to your house to do a search at 3am. For a police state you need boots on the ground, and no matter how many police there are, there will always be more civilians. If those civilians are armed, then the police will always be outnumbered and face the reality of bullets coming back at them.

The government isnt going to control its own nation with freaking bombs because they dont want to destroy their infrastructure. They need a police state which is impossible if people have guns.

For an example of this, look at nations the US has invaded like Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, etc. All of their tanks and fighter jets were worthless against some people with AKs and pick up trucks because those big scary monsters are useless dealing with them
 

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You can't control an entire country with tanks, jets, and drones. You can't have a tank on the street corner enforcing non assembly laws to civilians. The government isnt going to send a tank to your house to do a search at 3am. For a police state you need boots on the ground, and no matter how many police there are, there will always be more civilians. If those civilians are armed, then the police will always be outnumbered and face the reality of bullets coming back at them.

The government isnt going to control its own nation with freaking bombs because they dont want to destroy their infrastructure. They need a police state which is impossible if people have guns.

For an example of this, look at nations the US has invaded like Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, etc. All of their tanks and fighter jets were worthless against some people with AKs and pick up trucks because those big scary monsters are useless dealing with them
That's what the mandatory vaccinations are for. That's what the 5G and tracking chips are for. I suspect things will get real ugly.
 
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You can't control an entire country with tanks, jets, and drones. You can't have a tank on the street corner enforcing non assembly laws to civilians. The government isnt going to send a tank to your house to do a search at 3am. For a police state you need boots on the ground, and no matter how many police there are, there will always be more civilians. If those civilians are armed, then the police will always be outnumbered and face the reality of bullets coming back at them.

The government isnt going to control its own nation with freaking bombs because they dont want to destroy their infrastructure. They need a police state which is impossible if people have guns.

For an example of this, look at nations the US has invaded like Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, etc. All of their tanks and fighter jets were worthless against some people with AKs and pick up trucks because those big scary monsters are useless dealing with them
What about the social chaos they always "predict" in the movies, series, music? Joker? How will it be without weapons? Will gun control come after chaos?
 

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A tank rolls towards my door, I drop the AR, attempt to try to talk/stall. Hopefully buy whatever time I have for my group to escape or think of something.
You can't control an entire country with tanks, jets, and drones. You can't have a tank on the street corner enforcing non assembly laws to civilians. The government isnt going to send a tank to your house to do a search at 3am. For a police state you need boots on the ground, and no matter how many police there are, there will always be more civilians. If those civilians are armed, then the police will always be outnumbered and face the reality of bullets coming back at them.

The government isnt going to control its own nation with freaking bombs because they dont want to destroy their infrastructure. They need a police state which is impossible if people have guns.

For an example of this, look at nations the US has invaded like Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, etc. All of their tanks and fighter jets were worthless against some people with AKs and pick up trucks because those big scary monsters are useless dealing with them
True. Tanks can't maneuver in narrow alleys. According to the Pentagon, "Urban is the Future."
And as they anticipate, more people will be living in cities than outside of them.

 

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In this area we have “decorative” army tanks placed all over. They are supposed to be honoring the military or some shit but it never sat right with me.. makes me feel like they are “sleeper cells” or something. I live in the middle of nowhere and there’s one five minutes down the road.

Anyway, they have drones. And they have a million other things we don’t even know about. I just think it’s delusional to think whatever weapons they allow us to have are actually going to be effective. If they were they wouldn’t allow them.

We can’t even effectively organize to secure labor rights that we previously enjoyed for chrissakes.
 

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That’s how it happened in England and Australia..they had mass shooting at schools and people gave up their weapons to save the children. They tried to do that here with Sandy Hook and when that didn’t work, went for innocent adults...and that didn’t work. Trump got in and you don’t see that so much now...wonder why?

They don’t want gun control just guns out of the hands of the common people so that they can do to us what they do to the English and anyone else that can’t have guns.
Sorry, what is it they do to us here in the U.K. because we can’t have guns?
You won’t find a lot of support for US gun laws here in the UK. When a gunman walked into a Dunblane primary school with 4 legally held controls and 700 rounds of ammunition, killing 16 children and their teacher, there was little doubt that gun laws needed to be changed.
 

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I don’t see that...responsible citizens only use them for fun or protection...whether its protection against criminals or in case the government oversteps its bounds. Its the criminals who don’t obey gun laws and shoot their fellow man.
Isn’t using guns for fun a little bit of a contradiction in terms?
Why does anyone need guns for fun?
 

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Isn’t using guns for fun a little bit of a contradiction in terms?
Why does anyone need guns for fun?
People like to shoot guns..for target practice or for hunting. I actually thought I’d be one of those that liked to shoot guns..for like target practice not for hunting, but I hated it when I tried it. Its too violent for me.
 

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Sorry, what is it they do to us here in the U.K. because we can’t have guns?
You won’t find a lot of support for US gun laws here in the UK. When a gunman walked into a Dunblane primary school with 4 legally held controls and 700 rounds of ammunition, killing 16 children and their teacher, there was little doubt that gun laws needed to be changed.
You gave up your right to protect yourselves with guns to save the children..they thought it would work well for sandy hook here...and I thought that was how the Australian’s gave up their guns too. Whether that was give them up or tough gun restrictions.

I have read many comments and it seems that if you defend yourself against thieves...you could be the one to go to jail..that’s what I have deduced anyway. That it seems life in Britain has become easier for thieves in that sense. I could be wrong...but so many comments say otherwise.
 

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Isn’t using guns for fun a little bit of a contradiction in terms?
Why does anyone need guns for fun?
Would you say the same thing for the "sport" of Archery?
There is a reason police departments have militarized. And it's not to keep the average citizen safe.
Mike Pence's WestPoint grad speech as he listed future theaters of war: "some of you may even be called upon to serve in this hemisphere."
 
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