Elites want gun control?

[thursdayafternoon]

Mass shooting false flags. Madonna's God Control etc.

But why?

 

[Lisa]

They hate when people can shoot back?

 

[thursdayafternoon]

They hate when people can shoot back?

I thought there might be more complicated reasons.

 

[Lisa]

I thought there might be more complicated reasons.

I don’t think so...its easier to control people who can’t shoot back at ya..which is the reason why they manipulated people into giving up their rights to have a gun in other countries..UK, Australia...and they’ve been trying that with us Americans...but apparently Americans like their guns and their freedoms more than they like ‘safety’ for themselves or their children.

 

[illuminatimess]

Well, their weapons are not used against the “elites“, they kill their fellow citizens

 

[Lisa]

Well, their weapons are not used against the “elites“, they kill their fellow citizens

Its mostly the criminals that kill their fellow citizens. But it will be the citizens who obey the gun laws that will use the guns on the government if it ever comes down to it...that’s why the government tries the false flag stuff to try to get people to give up their guns.

 

[vancityeagle]

I've long challenged this idea that the elites want gun control.

Do they really ?

Why then do they keep mass producing arms and ammunition for sale ?

Cerebus Management owned by Trump friend Steven Feinberg. Cerebus owns Remington and Bushmaster and many of the top gun brands.

Feinberg is on Trump's intelligence team, and a couple of years ago it was reported that Trump wanted him to overhaul the entire intelligence sytem.

People say false flags to take away gun rights. But nothing ever happens even after death records are broken by mass shootings, and all that ever happens are increased gun and ammo sales.

I dont think they truly want gun control, if they do, they are terrible at trying to achieve their goals, and virtually every law they end up passing is simply symbolic.

 

[Lisa]

I've long challenged this idea that the elites want gun control.

Do they really ?

Why then do they keep mass producing arms and ammunition for sale ?

Cerebus Management owned by Trump friend Steven Feinberg. Cerebus owns Remington and Bushmaster and many of the top gun brands.

Feinberg is on Trump's intelligence team, and a couple of years ago it was reported that Trump wanted him to overhaul the entire intelligence sytem.

People say false flags to take away gun rights. But nothing ever happens even after death records are broken by mass shootings, and all that ever happens are increased gun and ammo sales.

I dont think they truly want gun control, if they do, they are terrible at trying to achieve their goals, and virtually every law they end up passing is simply symbolic.

That’s how it happened in England and Australia..they had mass shooting at schools and people gave up their weapons to save the children. They tried to do that here with Sandy Hook and when that didn’t work, went for innocent adults...and that didn’t work. Trump got in and you don’t see that so much now...wonder why?

They don’t want gun control just guns out of the hands of the common people so that they can do to us what they do to the English and anyone else that can’t have guns.

 

[vancityeagle]

Its mostly the criminals that kill their fellow citizens. But it will be the citizens who obey the gun laws that will use the guns on the government if it ever comes down to it...that’s why the government tries the false flag stuff to try to get people to give up their guns.

will never happen.

law abiding citizens are not going to gather in mass to take on their government. Ha ha ha.

What will happen is that right wing extremists will likely terrorize certain sections of the population, on behalf of a fascist dictator like Trump. They may even be used to attack political opponents of a fascist dictator like Trump. See #operation gridlock and how Trump is threatening certain governors with armed protesters.

This is why IMO elites behind people like Trump WANT a proliferation of guns.

 

[Lisa]

will never happen.

law abiding citizens are not going to gather in mass to take on their government. Ha ha ha.

What will happen is that right wing extremists will likely terrorize certain sections of the population, on behalf of a fascist dictator like Trump. They may even be used to attack political opponents of a fascist dictator like Trump. See #operation gridlock and how Trump is threatening certain governors with armed protesters.

This is why IMO elites behind people like Trump WANT a proliferation of guns.

Who do you think are buying the guns so if they need to hold off the government. I think its kind of foolish..but its an American citizens right to defend themselves from the government. Haha...why do you think the gun and ammo industries went into overdrive under obama? They saw the threat and responded in kind and obama instead of backing down..bought out all the ammo....really thought something might happen then.

I don’t think trump is threatening anyone but agreeing with people that they have the right to bear arms.

 

[vancityeagle]

That’s how it happened in England and Australia..they had mass shooting at schools and people gave up their weapons to save the children. They tried to do that here with Sandy Hook and when that didn’t work, went for innocent adults...and that didn’t work. Trump got in and you don’t see that so much now...wonder why?

They don’t want gun control just guns out of the hands of the common people so that they can do to us what they do to the English and anyone else that can’t have guns.

yes I'm aware of what happened in England and Australia, although you still are allowed to own guns there.

there was just the worst mass shooting in Canada, and all they are doing is banning assault weapons.

Under Trump the US had the worst mass shooting in history in Las Vegas. Trump banned bump stocks, which was a symbolic gesture and nothing else.

 

[illuminatimess]

I've long challenged this idea that the elites want gun control.

Do they really ?

Why then do they keep mass producing arms and ammunition for sale ?

Cerebus Management owned by Trump friend Steven Feinberg. Cerebus owns Remington and Bushmaster and many of the top gun brands.

Feinberg is on Trump's intelligence team, and a couple of years ago it was reported that Trump wanted him to overhaul the entire intelligence sytem.

People say false flags to take away gun rights. But nothing ever happens even after death records are broken by mass shootings, and all that ever happens are increased gun and ammo sales.

I dont think they truly want gun control, if they do, they are terrible at trying to achieve their goals, and virtually every law they end up passing is simply symbolic.

Considering the production is still going and increasing, they definitely want people to armed with guns.

They could effortlessly enact laws to prohibit sales and distribution to the masses.

 

[vancityeagle]

Who do you think are buying the guns so if they need to hold off the government. I think its kind of foolish..but its an American citizens right to defend themselves from the government. Haha...why do you think the gun and ammo industries went into overdrive under obama? They saw the threat and responded in kind and obama instead of backing down..bought out all the ammo....really thought something might happen then.

I don’t think trump is threatening anyone but agreeing with people that they have the right to bear arms.

those guns aren't going to be used against any government, more likely they will be used on fellow Americans.

 

[vancityeagle]

Considering the production is still going and increasing, they definitely want people to armed with guns.

They could effortlessly enact laws to prohibit sales and distribution to the masses.

it seems pretty obvious, but some people dont want to accept the truth.

 

[Lisa]

yes I'm aware of what happened in England and Australia, although you still are allowed to own guns there.

there was just the worst mass shooting in Canada, and all they are doing is banning assault weapons.

Under Trump the US had the worst mass shooting in history in Las Vegas. Trump banned bump stocks, which was a symbolic gesture and nothing else.

Isn‘t it hard though to get the permits for them...and then you have the population that will look down on you for it.

Ya, that’s because how many mass shootings happens in Canada?

In four years there was Las Vegas...how much stuff happened under obama and what really did he do about it? That’s right..he was running guns into Mexico trying to start something there..and got caught.

 

[vancityeagle]

Isn‘t it hard though to get the permits for them...and then you have the population that will look down on you for it.

Ya, that’s because how many mass shootings happens in Canada?

In four years there was Las Vegas...how much stuff happened under obama and what really did he do about it? That’s right..he was running guns into Mexico trying to start something there..and got caught.

mass shootings are as American as apple pie.

 

[Lisa]

those guns aren't going to be used against any government, more likely they will be used on fellow Americans.

I don’t see that...responsible citizens only use them for fun or protection...whether its protection against criminals or in case the government oversteps its bounds. Its the criminals who don’t obey gun laws and shoot their fellow man.

 

[Vision]

Control..

 

[Lisa]

mass shootings are as American as apple pie.

No they aren’t. Most people aren’t shot at or killed at one time in America..though It does happen, its not as if we are all afraid it will happen where we live.

 

[vancityeagle]

I don’t see that...responsible citizens only use them for fun or protection...whether its protection against criminals or in case the government oversteps its bounds. Its the criminals who don’t obey gun laws and shoot their fellow man.

what percentage of American gun owners do you seriously think will organize to fight against the government ?

It will be a very small percentage, and they will be extremists who have been ideologically programmed. They can easily be pacified from "hating the gov" so long as you give them a Trump like figure to follow.

if they even were to take their arms against the government, they would be doing so in a limited fashion to attack the political enemies of the far right.