Dr. William Campbell destroyed by Dr. Zakir Naik on scientific errors in the Bible MUST WATCH!!

[JoChris]

Everything you guys rely on as proof, is revised and heavily doctored information passed down from millennia to millennia.

Where's the source? Where's the origin? In order to convince people of The authenticity of your book, you need to refer to the source.

Papyrus and other materials deteriorated faster than later papers used for manuscripts. People cared more about getting bible out than anything else.
http://www.skypoint.com/members/waltzmn/WritingMaterials.html
It is the **message** not the physical book (original versus copy) that gives the bible itself the power.

Using Islam's logic any religious writings should be viewed as truthful if it is the original text.
Perhaps $cientology is even "truthier" than Islam since L.Ron.Hubbard wrote/ typed his own own books all by himself, and even has audio recordings.
Enjoy for free. https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Scientology

Edit: I found the other page I was looking for! http://www.lermanet.com/cisar/russia/ot8.htm (Half-way down page)

What a "charming" *gag* man- L.Ron.Hubbard truly showed what kind of man he was there.
I hope I have saved a potential OT8-er a great deal of money.

 

[rainerann]

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I couldn't help myself.

 

[manama]

Papyrus and other materials deteriorated faster than later papers used for manuscripts. People cared more about getting bible out than anything else.
http://www.skypoint.com/members/waltzmn/WritingMaterials.html
It is the **message** not the physical book (original versus copy) that gives the bible itself the power.

Using Islam's logic any religious writings should be viewed as truthful if it is the original text.
Perhaps $cientology is even "truthier" than Islam since L.Ron.Hubbard wrote/ typed his own own books all by himself, and even has audio recordings.
Enjoy for free. https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Scientology

Edit: I found the other page I was looking for! http://www.lermanet.com/cisar/russia/ot8.htm (Half-way down page)

What a "charming" *gag* man- L.Ron.Hubbard truly showed what kind of man he was there.
I hope I have saved a potential OT8-er a great deal of money.

No that just proves that scientologists atleast have the ACTUAL og books that they believe in. Just like Muslims. The problem with your side is, you do not have the original scripture that YOU believe in.

 

[JoChris]

No that just proves that scientologists atleast have the ACTUAL og books that they believe in. Just like Muslims. The problem with your side is, you do not have the original scripture that YOU believe in.

We have multiple (to the nth degree) early scripts that are in complete agreement with each except for minor spelling errors, uncapitalization i.e. equivalent of TYPOS.
No *New Testament* manuscripts deny Jesus is God, saying He is a mere prophet like self-proclaimed "prophet" Muhammad from the 6th century AD. http://www.truthnet.org/Bible-Origins/11_New-Testament-Manuscripts-and-Textual-Criticism/index.htm

 

[Haich]

I think we can all safely agree that R.Hubbard wasn't inspired by the Creator.

Mohammed (pbuh) didn't create the Qur'an in any way, shape or form. He simply recited what Angel Gabriel told him to.

Your point is moot.

 

[JoChris]

I think we can all safely agree that R.Hubbard wasn't inspired by the Creator.

Mohammed (pbuh) didn't create the Qur'an in any way, shape or form. He simply recited what Angel Gabriel told him to.

Your point is moot.

A being that **claimed** to be an angel. An "angel" that contradicted the bible and deceived Muhammad (and every one of Islam's followers ever since), denying Jesus was God and forming a legalistic religion of works righteousness. Galatians 1:8-9, see verse 14 2 Corinthians 11:12-15

There have been quite a few false religions and Christian cults formed from listening to angel/s now. https://arcapologetics.org/culture/angel-mania/

Muhammad listened to an "angel" which contradicted the bible. Therefore that angel was not from the true God.

 

[manama]

A being that **claimed** to be an angel. An "angel" that contradicted the bible and deceived Muhammad (and every one of Islam's followers ever since), denying Jesus was God and forming a legalistic religion of works righteousness. Galatians 1:8-9, see verse 14 2 Corinthians 11:12-15

There have been quite a few false religions and Christian cults formed from listening to angel/s now. https://arcapologetics.org/culture/angel-mania/

Muhammad listened to an "angel" which contradicted the bible. Therefore that angel was not from the true God.

A being that **claimed** to be the Holy spirit. A "holy spirit" that contradicted the Psalms, Torah and deceived Paul (and every one of Christianity's followers ever since), denying that God was one and forming a religion of man worship.

There have been quite a few false religions and Christians cults formed from listening to "holy spirits" and "Jesus" now.

 

[manama]

Ya'll can't differentiate between the concept of angels and demons when even a 5 year old can, there is a problem

 

[Haich]

What do you think the 'being' was then?

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

A being that **claimed** to be the Holy spirit. A "holy spirit" that contradicted the Psalms, Torah and deceived Paul (and every one of Christianity's followers ever since), denying that God was one and forming a religion of man worship.

There have been quite a few false religions and Christians cults formed from listening to "holy spirits" and "Jesus" now.

I'm sure it occurs to you that the name an angel introduces itself by and its true identity may not be the same thing?

 

[Haich]

Oh that's right, according to Christianity angels disobey God.

 

[manama]

I'm sure it occurs to you that the name an angel introduces itself by and its true identity may not be the same thing?

Yea we don't believe in the concept of "evil angels".

 

[manama]

Saying that Islam was from Satan is the weakest argument anyone can come up with, like sure so you are telling me if i had to say there was something "fishy" between abrahamic religions, i'd say Islam when it clearly calls out Satan as he is instead of Christianity, where Satan is just perfect. He is handsome, smart, gorgeous, bringer of light, prince of the underworld, just wanted to spread knowledge. Satan in Christianity is this misunderstood angel stuck inbetween the wrath of an unforgiving God.
Thats every teenager girl's fantasy. An immortal misunderstood badboy angel.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Saying that Islam was from Satan is the weakest argument anyone can come up with, like sure so you are telling me if i had to say there was something "fishy" between abrahamic religions, i'd say Islam when it clearly calls out Satan as he is instead of Christianity, where Satan is just perfect. He is handsome, smart, gorgeous, bringer of light, prince of the underworld, just wanted to spread knowledge. Satan in Christianity is this misunderstood angel stuck inbetween the wrath of an unforgiving God.
Thats every teenager girl's fantasy. An immortal misunderstood badboy angel.

My belief about something does not change the nature of the thing itself, for better or worse.

 

[manama]

My belief about something does not change the nature of the thing itself, for better or worse.

Yea but it does change you. Satan will be an enemy to humanity eternally whether someone hates him or worships him. The one worshipping him is surely dooming himself though.

 

[Claire Rousseau]

No that just proves that scientologists atleast have the ACTUAL og books that they believe in. Just like Muslims. The problem with your side is, you do not have the original scripture that YOU believe in.

I don’t need to see it to KNOW it is God’s Word.

I know God, and He knows me. And I recognize the Holy Bible as His Word, just as I recognize my mother’s scent, or my sister’s handwriting.

If you do not recognize God’s Word, it is because you do not know Him, and He does not know you as His.

You do not truly have faith in Him. You want a god you can fully understand, and fully comprehend & explain. That cannot be the one true God, as He is exponentially & eternally greater than a human can ever wrap their mind around.

Remember: God created man in His own image, not vice versa.

You must believe in what you cannot see, and trust in what you cannot completely comprehend. That is the essence of faith.

If you can have faith in Jesus Christ, God will open your eyes to His truth, and you will receive undeniable assurance that He is God, and besides Him, there is no other.

 

[Etagloc]

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I couldn't help myself.

Where's the beef?

 

[manama]

I don’t need to see it to KNOW it is God’s Word.

I know God, and He knows me. And I recognize the Holy Bible as His Word, just as I recognize my mother’s scent, or my sister’s handwriting.

If you do not recognize God’s Word, it is because you do not know Him, and He does not know you as His.

You do not truly have faith in Him. You want a god you can fully understand, and fully comprehend & explain. That cannot be the one true God, as He is exponentially & eternally greater than a human can ever wrap their mind around.

Remember: God created man in His own image, not vice versa.

You must believe in what you cannot see, and trust in what you cannot completely comprehend. That is the essence of faith.

If you can have faith in Jesus Christ, God will open your eyes to His truth, and you will receive undeniable assurance that He is God, and besides Him, there is no other.

Eveyone's scripture is for them "the word of God" lets be real. Christians say they see Jesus, Buddhists see Buddha, once in a while a hindu will meet Ram.
The fact is that for the Christians that read KJV its the most accurate book, for the Christians that don't read KJV, they think its not. This problem arises because there isn't no og scripture to cite source from.

 

[Claire Rousseau]

^This. Quran's arabic is so poetic and more formal than actual Fuusha to the point even if you spoke it, you'd feel like you aren't worthy to speak in such a high, elegant manner. Yet everyone knows the language, everyone studies the language, they remember it and recite it by heart. Not because translating Quran will somehow change the meaning, BUT the fact that, it just isn't the same as me studying the translation and words of my local priest. Those are the words with whom God choose to speak to us and that is so powerful.

Christians can not do this because original language is dead, YET they don't even learn today's version of the language. They are going and trusting the words of people a few centuries ago while having no idea who those people ACTUALLY were. Many priests teaching Christianity today, even teaching correctly, knowing each and every verses by heart have been exposed to be child predators or deeply involved in freemasonry, How do we know the ones before weren't? I wouldn't accuse anyone, i didn't know them but the possibility exists. What are the chances that those people were not handpicked by Satan?

Our Prophet told us to be careful of religious scholars because they will mislead the masses, according to Christians on this site, Jesus p.b.u.h told them the same. Then how can they go ahead and believe in everyone and quote everyone BUT Jesus p.b.u.h. This whole issue is so messed up.

You assume that Catholicism is a Bible-believing religion, and therefore you do err.

Catholicism is no more Christian than Buddhism is Islam....2 very different religions altogether.

It is true that Catholic priests are often pedophiles & drunks....but to assume the Vatican actually believes & follows the Bible is as misleading as assuming Muslims shave their heads, bang a gong & chant.

Night & Day difference.

 

[manama]

You assume that Catholicism is a Bible-believing religion, and therefore you do err.

Catholicism is no more Christian than Buddhism is Islam....2 very different religions altogether.

It is true that Catholic priests are often pedophiles & drunks....but to assume the Vatican actually believes & follows the Bible is as misleading as assuming Muslims shave their heads, bang a gong & chant.

Night & Day difference.

You do know that many non-Catholic Christians also read other versions of the Bible.