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Cintra

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ToS is individually minded so im not sure it means what you think it does and we could have a worse future than as imagined by Thelema.
I think it does.

Religions start off making rules to correct what they perceive as the flaws of the previous rules.
But after a bit they get just as oppressive.

Remember, all animals are equal. But some are more equal than others.
Always.
 

Lisa

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It’s a coded letter to other believers after the Roman sack of Jerusalem when believers were at a low point and it’s about contemporary issues of the time. 666 = Nero etc it’s about dealing with persecution and Rome written in a way to avoid detection and be gibberish to people not with the lingo
It’s about a time to come...Jesus never set up His millennial kingdom after the fall of Jerusalem...so its not that.
 

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We are both just going to dig in our heels here. It is what it is.

There is a time and a place for weapons. This wasn’t either. And doing things like this is going to play into the hands of those who want to ban guns.. and if that happens it will be all out war.
I’m not sure how this plays into the hands of those who want to ban guns, unless it’s because of the way one side has whipped up fear over this.

No one was held at gunpoint, no shots were fired, there were more law enforcement than there were protesters with guns, and each legally armed protester still had to be permitted entry into the legislature by the police who were guarding the legislature and who continue to be in control of the situation. Calling anything that has happened so far “terrorism” strikes me as unbelievably ridiculous.

Yeah, I’d say we’re dug in. :)
 

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I wouldn't side with David Koresh under normal circumstances. However it's plain to see the feds have no problem deploying nerve gas on woman and children.

If any criminal runs from the cops and barricades themselves in *your* house. The government is legally allowed to destroy your property. And not pay you a single penny.
I’m not sure how the same people who go on about dictators, concentration camps and police states can simultaneously cheer the feds as they gun down women and children.
 

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I’m not sure how the same people who go on about dictators, concentration camps and police states can simultaneously cheer the feds as they gun down women and children.
They ran over a dudes corpse with a tank too.

People can believe what they want. But the law was out for blood in that situation. There's even reports the feds planted a shaped charge right on top of the branch davidians bunker.
 

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stop watching militia propaganda dude
Most of the event was recorded from the air with a forward looking infrared camera. In those videos you can clearly see gunfire being aimed at the davidian compound. While the place was burning down. Maybe my memory is off but there's also video of them running over the corpse with the tank.

The government also destroyed the only safe means of escape than deployed flammable substances throughout. But yeah of course the government did nothing wrong. I'm sure they would admit wrongdoing.
 

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Thunderian

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Colonel, had the government not monumentally screwed it up, both times, no one would be dead at all. People do and say and believe stupid things all the time. Should they die for it?
 

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Care to provide a source for the footage with appropriate context?

never said the government didn’t do anything wrong but your version of events is a fantasy put out militia propaganda outlets.

Government is bad and so are militia organizations. Koresh was a child raping false prophet and it’s embarrassing to see people defend him.

Sure I can joke around about the Rev or Charlie but I won’t pretend they arenot anything but what they are.
My source is a 1997 documentary called "Waco: The Rules of Engagement". It is hardly a fantasy, and the director is nowhere near being a militiaman. In the documentary, a lot of solid evidence is brought to light. There is the FLIR footage I mentioned before, and video and audio recordings of the Davidian interactions with the FBI.

Nobody is defending some pseudo-Christian culture. I'm defending the rights we all have under the law. The government cannot use the military on American citizens. This event was like a war crime that happened right under our noses.
 

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Coronaphobia: Survey suggests 16 percent of Americans are not sure they will EVER comfortable going out in public again even after COVID-19 panic subsides
 
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