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Aero

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It’s not the idea of going back to work itself that is evil.

It’s the fact that the people pushing for it won’t actually be going back to work in public themselves, that is. It’s the class stratification that this virus is exploiting that is evil.

If a country wants to go to war and it’s leader isn’t willing to fight that war themselves - that’s also evil.

Any situation where people are advocating/agitating to put other people’s lives at risks when they are not willing to risk their own is EVIL.
Class stratification seems like it could be evil. At the very least it makes no logical sense. Categorizing people based on class leads to double standards, appeals to authority, and the whole list of fallacies of relevance.

I don't think a leader has fought in a war themselves since Julius Ceasar. The Gallic campaign certainly comes to mind. Those filthy Gauls had to down because of "clout".

This pandemic fiasco isn't really my idea of war though. Sure, there's plenty of deception, but beyond that nobody is really fighting much of anything. My employer is about to make those stupid masks mandatory, and I'm probably just going to be like Nah, I'm good. If it's really that dangerous where I need to cover my face to go outside then I'm just not going outside. Plus I have asthma and I like to breathe.
 

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Pro from what I can tell and read online. I believe it because there was so many Southern Swastikas our and about and the two go hand in hand.
Wow!
Thanks for the reply!

I feel a bit shocked now.
I didn't realise it was used like that.
 

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you still have NO EVIDENCE, that Iran is currently running 5G, you have pointed out to them testing it, but no source that they are running it currently.

and no you did not deal with S. Korea, you just brushed it a side with an illogical excuse.

S. Korea leads the way in 5G technology and had 5 million subscribers at the time, and they have 230 deaths at this date, yet Iran who has ZERO subscribers, and have not officially rolled out 5G, have 4958 deaths. Yeah that makes tons of sense doesn't it.

What about Russia, who rolled out 5G back in 2019

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/09/01/hello-splinternet-huawei-deploys-5g-in-russia-with-putins-support/#3b32f29c199d

from above dated Sep 1 2019

It has been coming—and now it's here. Huawei 5G has gone live in Russia. This isn't the first 5G pilot to launch in Moscow, but it is the most notable.

5G was first piloted in Moscow in 2018, "during the World Cup," Lysenko told me,

So Russia who is also well ahead of Iran, with a full rollout has merely 273 deaths compared to Irans nearly 5000.

What about Israel ? They have 5G and a measley 150 dead.

UAE has 5G, they have 35 deaths.

Phillipines launches 5G June 2019

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-globe-huawei-tech/philippines-globe-telecoms-launches-5g-service-backed-by-huawei-equipment-idUSKCN1TL1YH

yet Phillipines has only 387 deaths


How about Saudi Arabia ? According to link below they rank #3 in the world and have been operating 5G since the middle of 2019.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/business/technology/2020/02/23/Saudi-Arabia-ranks-third-globally-in-deployment-of-5G-technology-Ministry

Saudi Arabia ranks third globally and first in the Middle East, Europe and North Africa region in the deployment of 5G networks as the Kingdom installed more than 5,797 towers across 30 cities,

Saudi Arabia’s Ministry of Communications and Information first launched the commercial service of 5G technology during the second half of last year.


How many have died of "Coronavirus" in Saudi Arabia ? A total of 87

Denmark rolls out 5G in 2019 ?

https://www.verdict.co.uk/denmark-5g-network/

Denmark has 336 deaths

Finland launched 5G as far back as 2018 ?

https://venturebeat.com/2018/06/28/finlands-elisa-is-second-carrier-to-launch-worlds-first-5g-network/

Finland has 82 dead

Australia has had some 5G since 2018 ?

https://www.rcrwireless.com/20190910/5g/5g-australia-huawei-ban

Telstra and Optus, who rely on Ericsson or Nokia or a combination of both, are continuing to move forward with 5G rollouts. According to Ookla’s 5G map, Australia has 12 5G sites, two operated by Optus and 10 operated by Telstra. Telstra Telstra has been operating 5G-enabled sites across Australia since August 2018, making it the country’s first 5G-ready carrier. However, its commercial offers were not announced until May 2019. Now, the telecom has commercial 5G coverage in 10 regions across the country, including parts of Perth, Melbourne and the Gold Coast, with rollouts expected to increase to at least 35 cities over the next 12 months.

a grand total of 65 deaths in Australia.

Lets look at covid deaths in the US by city and state

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/coronavirus-maps-charts-us-cities-deaths

highest death rate is Albany, Georgia. Are you telling me Albany, Georgia has more 5G than the rest of the US ?

Guess which city is conveniently missing from the TOP 50 CITIES IN THE US

Oh Los Angeles. In fact not a single city from California is amongst the top 50 hit cities in the US.

Are you now going to tell me that Los Angeles and California have less 5G than Albany, Georgia ?

California's low death rate wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that the Governor of California enacted safety measures well ahead of other states would it ? No it has to be the magical 5G which avoids Californians, and South Koreans, Russians, Canadians, but somehow attacks Iranians who dont even have 5G yet.

and funny in your list of possible causes, you dont even consider bio weapons, even though there is a long documented history of use of biological weapons, even though doctors and nurses seem to be dying at a high rate, which would suggest, that YES something is being passed on from the sick, but this absolutely isn't a possiblity in your crazy world, its 5G that picks and chooses who to kill. 5G likes to kill doctors right ?

there is no correlation between 5G and deaths by Covid-19. NONE. Even if there was correlation it still doesn't prove causation, but you dont even have correlation.

But have at it, continue to spin your tale.
You don't know what you're talking about. All you're doing is regurgitating the official narrative while voluntarily submitting to the most blatant and unprecedented usurpation of individual rights by governments worldwide in the history of mankind.

You asked about Israel, and then falsely claimed they have 5G, when they most certainly do NOT. The counterfeit-Jewish state of Israel is the epicenter of this planned global economic shutdown, and it's actually a dead give-away that 5G is going to, and/or already has played a major role in their evil plans to bring in their one world government because Israel has no plans to do to themselves what they have conned the rest of the world into doing with 5G.

https://www.radiationdangers.com/5g/well-whaddya-know-no-5g-for-israel/



You can keep chasing your own tale/tail, pretending to know what you're talking about, while quoting "official" death toll numbers from MSM sources that have a well-established history of government complicity and cannot be trusted under any circumstances.

Sorry to interrupt your regularly scheduled programming. You probably need to get back to monitoring the "news" to see how high you're going to be required to jump tomorrow.
 

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to be honest Lisa, I want people to go back to work too. I will admit that I am torn what to believe. Part of me thinks, this is all overblown, and they are doing this to shutdown the world economy, but then a part of me thinks that there actually is some deadly disease that is killing people, and these lockdown measures are actually not just some bullshit.

I've said this again, I dont trust Trump, I dont trust Bill Gates, I dont trust the CDC, I don't trust Fauci, I don't trust any of them, and when they create a dialectic, I think either side is filled with lies and keeping us from the truth.

Its easy to see how people get suckered in to one extreme of the debate, especially if people know of others who have died. My conclusion for now is that they are filling the airwaves, and internet will so much garbage, that we will inevitably consume some of it. We may never know what the hell really happened, but people will die, the economy will likely collapse, and our lives will never be the same again.
Ya, I agree with most of what you say...we don’t really know what is going on. I’ve been torn with what to believe too..but I go back to my experiences and I think it’s all been overblown and the only reason I can think of is because its an election year and the dems guy couldn’t beat trump. The answer has to have something to do with reality, I think.

I just don’t know if things will get so bad that the economy will collapse...I guess that might depend on how long people are out of work and if company’s are willing to work with people i.e. lowering the rent for a few months. We’ve never been in this position before, so I think all the doom and gloom could be real...just don’t know for sure.
 

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Cuba doesn’t put its citizens in 16 thousand dollars of debt to get a coVid test. They nearly cured lung cancer and send medical teams to help other countries with this.
The commies in Vietnam got a grip on this quickly. There’s worse places to live than either Cuba or Vietnam.

I don’t care if you think it’s a pandemic or not. You don’t believe in reality or science so your opinion is less relevant than a eunuch in a whore house.

Confederate flag wavers eh? Not good to use them in your freedom argument lol. You realize they fought a civil war to keep slaves right?
I guess if you live in Cuba or North Vietnam..you might think differently if there are worse places to live...

Interesting metaphor...lol!

I thought the confederate flag was used because they were talking against the norm...could be wrong...any one of us could be wrong on what we believe.
 

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Wow!
Thanks for the reply!

I feel a bit shocked now.
I didn't realise it was used like that.
It’s not. One picture, without context, is meaningless. If this was a thing, we’d have been seeing Nazi flags at Trump rallies. The Colonel desperately wants everyone to believe that Trump is a dictator and all his supporters are Nazis. It’s not the case, never was, and never will be.
 

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Could this be it? Funvax, a vaccine that turns off the religious center in the brain. It would explain why they want us vaccinated.

 
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You don't know what you're talking about. All you're doing is regurgitating the official narrative while voluntarily submitting to the most blatant and unprecedented usurpation of individual rights by governments worldwide in the history of mankind.

You asked about Israel, and then falsely claimed they have 5G, when they most certainly do NOT. The counterfeit-Jewish state of Israel is the epicenter of this planned global economic shutdown, and it's actually a dead give-away that 5G is going to, and/or already has played a major role in their evil plans to bring in their one world government because Israel has no plans to do to themselves what they have conned the rest of the world into doing with 5G.

https://www.radiationdangers.com/5g/well-whaddya-know-no-5g-for-israel/



You can keep chasing your own tale/tail, pretending to know what you're talking about, while quoting "official" death toll numbers from MSM sources that have a well-established history of government complicity and cannot be trusted under any circumstances.

Sorry to interrupt your regularly scheduled programming. You probably need to get back to monitoring the "news" to see how high you're going to be required to jump tomorrow.
LOL you are sourcing Robert David Steele, an "ex" CIA officer who has promoted the Sandy Hook Hoax nonsense, as well as"Trump fighting deep state" bullshit, its from march 2019

your other source is from 2018

from July 2019 Israel plans to launch 5G in 2 weeks

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-telecoms-5g/israel-set-to-launch-long-awaited-5g-tender-this-month-idUSKCN1TX1UU

from 2020 although I admit it does seem vague as to if or when actual rollout has taken place

https://foundry.att.com/stories/edge-of-5g/

https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-first-bids-submitted-for-israels-5g-tender-1001318841

Even if I give you Israel you are still going to have to explain

S.Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Finland, why its localized to Wuhan, why its localized to New York.

Your theory does not fit.

Then you accuse me of "following lockdown orders" and I have actually been very critical of many of the things THEY are telling us to do, and I am also completely anti-vax and yet you accuse me of trusting that.

Thats how disinformation is pushed through conspiracy theories. You start with a kernel of truth, and limit the context of evidence presented, then you start making wild conclusions which do not hold up, upon further scrutiny
 
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I never said all of his supporters were, but plenty of Nazis and white supremacists are supporters. You can still tell that from all the confederate swastikas, a flag that is just as evil. Trump openly embraces whites supremacist thinkers like William S. Lind and while it’s not universal he is relatively popular with militia terrorists and biker gangs.

He may not be a dictator at the moment but he acts like one and wants to be one. He’s waging a cold civil war against states that oppose him and there is plenty of time for a power grab. You’ll see, especially if he “wins” re-election
Your picture wasn’t from the Michigan protests but 2 months ago in Idaho. Total misinformation you’re spreading

wouldn’t be surprised if it was an anti trump protester. The far right hates trump and has since probably 2017.thats the only context I can see that happening
 

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It’s not. One picture, without context, is meaningless. If this was a thing, we’d have been seeing Nazi flags at Trump rallies. The Colonel desperately wants everyone to believe that Trump is a dictator and all his supporters are Nazis. It’s not the case, never was, and never will be.
Thanks.
Context is everything.

But still! OMG!
 
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Thanks for the clarification but still

“Edit for clarification: This was at a Bernie Sanders rally, the trump supporters were counter protesting. It was held at the Ann Morrison park in Boise, ID.
Today I witnessed a bunch of trump supporters crashing a peaceful rally I was attending with my family. They were profane.”
I'm going to guess that that would be a Bernie Sanders supporter protesting against Trump then, yes?
 

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Canada Day has officially been cancelled. Online celebrations only. Virtual fireworks? I wonder if America will cancel July 4 activities.
 

A Freeman

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LOL you are sourcing Robert David Steele, an "ex" CIA officer who has promoted the Sandy Hook Hoax nonsense, as well as"Trump fighting deep state" bullshit, its from march 2019

your other source is from 2018

from July 2019 Israel plans to launch 5G in 2 weeks

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-telecoms-5g/israel-set-to-launch-long-awaited-5g-tender-this-month-idUSKCN1TX1UU

from 2020 although I admit it does seem vague as to if or when actual rollout has taken place

https://foundry.att.com/stories/edge-of-5g/

https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-first-bids-submitted-for-israels-5g-tender-1001318841

Even if I give you Israel you are still going to have to explain

S.Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Finland, why its localized to Wuhan, why its localized to New York.

Your theory does not fit.

Then you accuse me of "following lockdown orders" and I have actually been very critical of many of the things THEY are telling us to do, and I am also completely anti-vax and yet you accuse me of trusting that.

Thats how disinformation is pushed through conspiracy theories. You start with a kernel of truth, and limit the context of evidence presented, then you start making wild conclusions which do not hold up, upon further scrutiny
Glad to hear you see through the vaccination propaganda, which is predicated on the mistaken (germ) theory that viruses are foreign invaders that attack healthy cells, and can be passed from human to human (with some claims of animal to human transmissions), and thus must be killed with chemical concoctions and held at bay with "social distancing" and pretend PPE.

Once that is understood it's impossible to transmit a virus/partial protein chain from one human to another, this entire charade falls apart, which means either the official numbers of dead and infected are fabricated (which appears to be the case), or this issue is being caused by something else (or some combination of the two).

If you wish to trust imaginary government-provided numbers that you have no way of verifying, then your conclusions will continue to be skewed. Please consider the following logic regarding 5G, which you at least admit is "bad".

A) If someone claims this issue could be caused in part by 5G, that should prompt people to at least study the hazardous health effects of 5G, while there's still time to do something about it, which could save billions from being harmed or killed by its known adverse health effects.

Or...

B) If someone alternatively claims this issue could not possibly be caused by 5G (even though they have no way of knowing that), then everyone can sit around and do nothing while 5G is installed everywhere, at which time it will be too late to do anything about its known adverse health effects.

Hopefully you can see from the above which information will actually harm people and which stands to help people, as well as why.
 

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Glad to hear you see through the vaccination propaganda, which is predicated on the mistaken (germ) theory that viruses are foreign invaders that attack healthy cells, and can be passed from human to human (with some claims of animal to human transmissions), and thus must be killed with chemical concoctions and held at bay with "social distancing" and pretend PPE.

Once that is understood it's impossible to transmit a virus/partial protein chain from one human to another, this entire charade falls apart, which means either the official numbers of dead and infected are fabricated (which appears to be the case), or this issue is being caused by something else (or some combination of the two).

If you wish to trust imaginary government-provided numbers that you have no way of verifying, then your conclusions will continue to be skewed. Please consider the following logic regarding 5G, which you at least admit is "bad".

A) If someone claims this issue could be caused in part by 5G, that should prompt people to at least study the hazardous health effects of 5G, while there's still time to do something about it, which could save billions from being harmed or killed by its known adverse health effects.

Or...

B) If someone alternatively claims this issue could not possibly be caused by 5G (even though they have no way of knowing that), then everyone can sit around and do nothing while 5G is installed everywhere, at which time it will be too late to do anything about its known adverse health effects.

Hopefully you can see from the above which information will actually harm people and which stands to help people, as well as why.

or what is dangerous is you and others trying to claim that there is no deadly pathogen that can be transmitted from person to person.As if you know this for a fact, when there is far more evidence suggesting this to be the case, than 5G.

that is ultimately the goal of the 5G theory.

disease = hoax

and again If I choose to believe that there likely is a disease doesn't mean I accept the draconian lock down measusres, or vaccines, and tracking as a solution, because I do not. It also does not mean that I dont think they can be manipulating numbers. My position on all this has been very nuanced, unlike your "Virus' dont exist"

Why are you so committed to trying to get people to believe that infections are not taking place, its all just make believe, despite the long documented history of these type of weapons being tested and enacted on entire populations going back hundreds of years.

Is it all a hoax ?

I think that is doing far more damage than me who is just saying 5G is not what is causing this, because there is no correlation.

You want me to ignore "official statistics" yet it was "official statistics" sited by the 5G crowd as evidence that Wuhan was the origin of the deaths because Wuhan "rolled out 5G" the same time people started dying. Of course ignoring the rest of China.

see to the conspiracy crowd statistics are always convenient when you need them, and inconvenient when they contradict your theory.
 
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