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The Zone

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Well the US is the only country to drop nukes on civilian populations

The only country to invade multiple countries and have bases all over the planet

They have used biological weapons throughout history, including on their own population

The country that continues to dominate the globe politically and economically through murder and lies.

But I suggest we should all just ignore this and believe fairy tales, especially now with a lying psychopath in the whitehouse.
You said you got banned from the Icke forum for they had an ideology. What was that ideology? It would help me to understand some things.

So, you hate the US with a passion and lean left and likely want socialism. There is a large boat for you to share here with your take.

But you do not have to get nasty and start with the Trump stuff and assume because I question your take on the coronavirus that I am the enemy.

Do you live in the US and have an Antifa outfit, maybe? Kidding, sort of.... but I never understand how people who hate their country stay here. It does not matter who is the president, you would feel the same. Unless you are one of those who thinks Bernie can save the world and forgive your debt.
But that’s how it is! Name a country that is/was more involved in wars than America? Until when did America have segregation? I can name endless issues related to USA and their foreign policy as well as homeland policies.
Are you talking about modern-day or history? Look, if this forum turns 110% anti US and blames them for every issue in the world then there would be a hive mind and that would be boring. Some here want that hive mind and their hatred for the US keeps them so preoccupied that they are missing other happenings. My opi. I am not into the US being the world police and there has been much less war of late. The US is not perfect but it is not the sole reason for the world's problems. There were plenty of more countries trying to dominate the world before the US gained its power.

So, maybe some who are having their say want to tell me the solution to the US? What do you think should be done and if the US is out of the way are you so naive as to think other powers will not take their place?
 

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The whole point of these videos is not to say the virus isn't real or that doctors/nurses aren't scrambling in some areas. The virus is real. The point is to compare the current MSM hype and hysteria vs. reality. I would say the videographers are doing a great job.
that’s not what I asked. Do you know what a hospital looks like on a normal day or do you think these videos reflect a reality that this is what hospitals look like on a normal day. Therefore, there is no demonstrable change from what a normal day would look like?
 

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I will see you in the PM's Jess!!!! Okay, that is the short answer, but what about the long answers I asked for. The solution.
 

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You said you got banned from the Icke forum for they had an ideology. What was that ideology? It would help me to understand some things.

So, you hate the US with a passion and lean left and likely want socialism. There is a large boat for you to share here with your take.

But you do not have to get nasty and start with the Trump stuff and assume because I question your take on the coronavirus that I am the enemy.

Do you live in the US and have an Antifa outfit, maybe? Kidding, sort of.... but I never understand how people who hate their country stay here. It does not matter who is the president, you would feel the same. Unless you are one of those who thinks Bernie can save the world and forgive your debt.

Are you talking about modern-day or history? Look, if this forum turns 110% anti US and blames them for every issue in the world then there would be a hive mind and that would be boring. Some here want that hive mind and their hatred for the US keeps them so preoccupied that they are missing other happenings. My opi. I am not into the US being the world police and there has been much less war of late. The US is not perfect but it is not the sole reason for the world's problems. There were plenty of more countries trying to dominate the world before the US gained its power.

So, maybe some who are having their say want to tell me the solution to the US? What do you think should be done and if the US is out of the way are you so naive as to think other powers will not take their place?

I’m talking about USA since its foundation. But how can you have affection for a nation that is built on wars? Yes, Russia violently tried to conquer over Caucasus area and so on.

The first step for the US would be to keep out of foreign policy. Demilitarize the countries Americans illegally and violating international law. Go home, yankees
 
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For the “coronavirus is bio-warfare against China and Iran” theory to work, you need to explain China and Iran’s coverup of said virus.
No I dont because even if they did "cover it up" that proves nothing other than the fact they want the perception of them having the situation under control.

That is what any nation under attack would do.

If this was a Chinese attack on the US, you would have to explain why then did Trump call it a hoax putting his own citizens at risk.

The US is in on this 100%.
 
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I’m talking about USA since its foundation. But how can you have affection for a nation that is built on wars? Yes, Russia violently tried to conquer over Caucasus area and so on.

The first step for the US would be to keep out of foreign policy. Demilitarize the countries Americans illegally and violating international law. Go home, yankees
Oh, I see, so the rest of time does not count nor show a thing? I am afraid you are on a board full of yanks. Where are you from? All I see are talking points from what I presume is a very recent education. Everyone wants to take their shots, but nobody has a viable answer or solution.
No I dont because even if they did "cover it up" that proves nothing other than the fact they want the perception of them having the situation under control.

That is what any nation under attack would do.

If this was a Chinese attack on the US, you would have to explain why then did Trump call it a hoax putting his own citizens at risk.

The US is in on this 100%.
Are you sure you are not from China? I see a lot of new members with a country in their crosshairs while overlooking the sins of other countries past and present. Some call that agenda posting. So the US is in on this 100% because it is your opinion? Do you think this is all about the US or do you buy into the PTB take and everyone in on a one-world government? Would you like a one-world government?
 
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Oh, I see, so the rest of time does not count nor show a thing? I am afraid you are on a board full of yanks. Where are you from? All I see are talking points from what I presume is a very recent education. Everyone wants to take their shots, but nobody has a viable answer or solution.

Are you sure you are not from China?
I actually am surrounded by yankees. The drone base in Ramstein, Germany for example. Violates human rights, but yeah, it’s all for democracy, right? ;)

I told you how the current situation could be changed. And no, I’m quite educated about history. If youdon’t agree, serve me some points against what I said.
 

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I’m freakish about cleanliness, but I’ve never felt it was a rule. There were and are plenty of grungy servants of God. John the Baptist was probably pretty good to be upwind of. :)
Haha, am abit that way myself actually. Am so picky that when I had a carpet you could see footprints on, I vacuumed it 5 times a day, lol! Have changed carpets since though.
 

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I actually am surrounded by yankees. The drone base in Ramstein, Germany for example. Violates human rights, but yeah, it’s all for democracy, right? ;)

I told you how the current situation could be changed. And no, I’m quite educated about history. If youdon’t agree, serve me some points against what I said.
Why do you think the German government has not said get out? Some of the answers lie there, but I understand you not wanting bases in your country. Most people in Germany seem to be a part of two ideologies unless they are an immigrant. Do you mind me asking where you fall on the spectrum? How do you feel about your countries' past in the world wars?
 

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Well well, the Bullshit Broadcasting Corporation went to YT and asked why David Icke's video on 5G and Covidiocy19 was not taken down, so YT removed it.

This one?
 

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especially now with a lying psychopath in the whitehouse.
It's the only TWO choices Americans were given. They were BOTH sociopaths (although seems Hil is more the psychopath,) not just the red one. And that's what needs fixing in this country. No good things are happening in government BY AND FOR THE PEOPLE because there are simply not many good people in government. When is the last time someone ran for higher office that had no dirt on them? Much less got elected. And where does that dirt that gets brought up come from? By serving corporations and special interests to enrich themselves while insider trading to feather there own nest. It's like Hollywood so call it Poliwood. And the rules are the same:
It's not who you know, it's who you blow...
 

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Why do you think the German government has not said get out? Some of the answers lie there, but I understand you not wanting bases in your country. Most people in Germany seem to be a part of two ideologies unless they are an immigrant. Do you mind me asking where you fall on the spectrum? How do you feel about your countries' past in the world wars?
Because our government is tied to USA. Most of them are trained by Washington. Even our most influential newsmen are trained by Washington. There are tons of litigations against the drone base, but the current government won’t do anything, that’s for sure.

I refuse our past. It was the most cruel thing human kind could have done. Most of us don’t like it, but there are some who do. The right wing is getting stronger- again. Scary.
Nevertheless, you can’t ignore the fact that Americans were involved in creating this cruelty.


Which spectrums do you me
 

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The question is invalid to my post. No one is talking about hospitals on a 'normal' day [and we all know what they look like :rolleyes:]. The comparison is specific to the current MSM hype/hysteria vs. what 'real people' are seeing out on the streets. That's what #FilmYourHospital and #filmyourhospitals is all about.
It is a completely valid question considering that a hospital on an average day looks about as busy from the outside as an average shopping mall. So why don't they look like this anymore in these videos and why don't the people filming them know this for comparison? Because most of these people don't know what an average hospital looks like on a regular day.

Hospitals in most locations were full. Many locations are upgrading in some capacity to increase in size and provide private rooms for patients. People seem to like to think of a hospital as only being slightly different than a stay at a Marriott sometimes.

How to decrease wait times in ER's because they have been so full across the country, has been a normal and frequent discussion from around the time that they passed a law saying that an emergency could not turn away a patient for not having insurance.

So the concern in MSM that is going to reflect the truth of the situation is that if this situation creates a surge, our hospital system that was completely full, might not be able to address this increase.

The sociology of the reality of this situation after around of month of shelter in place orders in many places is that many people seem to have responded to this situation by avoiding the hospital unless they have symptoms. So instead of needing to increase capacity, hospital units that were formerly used for other patient types, are being used for the patient who has acute symptoms and can't be sent home to self-quarantine after their test is done.

The fact that this result was not accurately predicted in the media does not change the fact that many hospitals from the inside and outside, are drastically different in terms of population size and function right now. Therefore, it really doesn't sound to me like you have any idea what a hospital looked like before this happened because otherwise, you would see how much of a change has taken place. It truly seems like you think this is the way the hospital must have looked already and so there has been no visible change and so obviously the media is completely exaggerating something.

I mean people didn't stop having cancer and heart attacks, but for some reason, they are not coming to the ER for this as frequently. This is probably going to create some fluctuations in our statistics as well because large population groups that are diagnosed with other diseases have somehow disappeared from view. So the empty hospital that you see in these videos is not what a hospital looked like a couple of months ago. We were knee-deep in flu season and there were hours-long wait times in many ER's that have vanished.

I think people just didn't expect that the average patient would choose to avoid pursuing hospital services during this time and that is why the expectation was to increase capacity has not been necessary. I don't doubt even a little bit that these videos are showing something that is really happening in other locations because that is what I see where I am.

There was a social response that created this reality in a country that had not yet experienced the same manifestations of the symptoms of this new contagious disease.
 

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Thank you for your well detailed input, jeez I agree! I'm counting exactly how many things are so negative here, first it was immaturity, then it was pettiness, then it was hypocrisy, now it's pride. You know many of these people need help, and some of them have kids, I honestly wish the best for them. The only ones that have been mature and calm the entire time was you, Freeman, David Son, Vixy, Dalit, (UnderAlienControl, just calmly updating us <33), and I. Keep on doing what you're doing! Demons do be talking through people out of anger, I tell you!
Yeah, I see people loosing it too. Imagine what a few weeks of isolation and a plandemic scare does while I've lived isolated all my life, lol! N00bz!

Ps dont you just love the way Icke screams "Iz a bloddeh pandemec!"? LOL

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Iz a bloodeh pandemec!
 
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