I have a bad feeling China is going to crack down on Hong Kong in the near future. They are really pushing out some serious propaganda on social media outlets and in Europe now that they're shipping supplies and playing the savior. The only hope here to keep them from taking over is a revolt in their own country which is unlikely due to the iron fist rule. It is so crazy to think that we have been in modern warfare the past decade as the power structures are destined to change within the next ten years. The fallout and blame game will start once this crisis subsides and I am not looking forward to that and politics dominating the news but will take it considering what we're currently speaking about.
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It’s not, actually. You kind of make it sound like people are “saying” China is lying, but you’re not convinced.
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Lifting of US Propaganda Ban Gives New Meaning to Old Song
In the age of legal, weaponized propaganda directed against the American people, false narratives have become so commonplace in the mainstream media that they have essentially become normalized, leading to the era of “fake news” and “alternative facts.”
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I have seen it all now...disguised as a bush in the UK.
Man dresses as bush to sneak out during coronavirus lockdown
It’s amazing what people can do when they have some extra free time.
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Ofcourse China is lying and they are doing so for whatever reason. I rolled my eyes in irony because the same distrust leveled at China isn't so liberally applied to the Western press here. It is as though we are still expecting said press to present accurate figures and that there is no temptation from the authorities to play around with the figures before they are even released to the public. It shows that we still maintain a degree of trust in the press even when we shouldn't because subconsciously we still believe that its better than the Chinese news establishment.
Maybe printing them out and having "hard" copy somewhere that can still be scanned and uploaded when the need arises? I've lost valuable information before when i had links saved but the websites later became defunct or the articles simply disappeared off the websites. For example, if you go to any wikipedia page, at the bottom there are links as sources but following on, one often finds that the page no longer exists. I think that information like what you've saved is going to be harder to find in the near future. It took me multiple search engines, including 6 pages of Google (thats where i stopped) just to find the BBC article that i posted here.
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It sure as hell should be. Most of the Western media are reporting China’s numbers as is, without any skepticism or caveats.
The numbers that the Western authorities are releasing are at least believable. Not so with China’s figures. They don’t match up to any other model of infections or deaths, but the media just blandly repeats them, while spending all their energy bitching about how mean Trump is being to them.
Shakespeare had it wrong. Kill the journalists first, then the lawyers.
Or you can alternatively ignore me. As I will be you going forward. If you can support her provocations of me prior to me calling her a cunt yet call me out for responding how I did there is no point in conversing with you at all.
You are not allowed to takevideo or picture inside nyc hospitals on a regular day - this is due to both hippa and nyc hospital policy. They absolutely should not have used fake footage. That is entirely wrong. Them using fake footage does not mean that nyc is not actually in crisis.
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What thee flipping arse?!
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'Please come help us': New York begs for medical workers
NEW YORK (AP) — New York's governor urgently appealed for medical volunteers Monday amid a “staggering” number of coronavirus deaths, as he and health officials warned that the crisis unfolding in New York City is just a preview of what other U.S. communities could soon face.
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This article makes it easy to see what the situation is like in the US right now. There is an interactive map and you can hover over it to find out how many cases are present in that location.
Overall, the numbers are low in the US right now with a few places like New York that are being hit bad. This makes sense because I can already tell it is real from where I am, but the numbers are still very low.
I think it is easy to exaggerate on either side of the spectrum. You could exaggerate that this situation isn't that big of a deal because the numbers are still low where you are.
The problem is that even though the numbers are low, so far they are showing almost a fifty/fifty chance of death versus recovery. This is still early on and this number will be updated as we progress. Hopefully, we will have a lot more people recovering the way it says China has had.
Personally, I wasn't taking this so seriously when we were just getting numbers out of China, but I just don't see a whole lot of reason to question the numbers from New York or Italy.
I also think the footage that CBS used that was originally posted by SkyNews is being exaggerated. I watched the clip by CBS and they basically seem to be using it as a stock photo of what it would look like to take care of patients with coronavirus.
There is nothing in the report that starts narrating something along the lines of "this is a hospital in New York that is trying to take care of patients in their emergency room because there are no beds in their hospital."
That is the gist of what SkyNews was saying during the same footage in their report, but CBS sweeps with this picture never claiming that it is a New York hospital. The statement on the bottom stays static while they show the clip of Cuomo talking about how the ventilators are not going to be enough. There is no direct claim that is ever made that this is a hospital in New York.
It genuinely looks like they were trying to use the clip as a stock video clip of what a coronavirus hospital looks like. This could have been with the intention of initiating a more emotional response to the information, but it doesn't look like they were claiming that this was a New York hospital and they have since apologized for including this and removed it.
So I'm not really a fan of emotionally charged reporting, I still think the accusations for including this are somewhat exaggerated. It is very important to try to be calm and rational right now. Even if you see injustice, or an error in reporting, it is still important to stay calm and rational, and not start exaggerating about the error or injustice that you are seeing.
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This guy did! And just beat the coronavirus.
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They keep gathering in masses despite the government warning them.
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I didn't think the virus would be so lethal. But in my defense, the information I was given was terrible.
I suppose it's my fault for trusting modern medicine and corporate machinations. Now, maybe all the chaos and horror stories are exaggerated for political or personal clout. Either way, corona chaos is real in people's minds. That fact has obvious implications for the beneficiaries of such chaos.
"Order through chaos" is a simple idea, but we see that it doesn't play out so simply. Like the order exists somewhere, and obfuscation is actually the whole point. The true slogan of the freemasons should probably change to "Order hidden through chaos". More importantly, I don't see shell shocking everyone as a viable long term strategy.
Shell shocking is why I think we have lost the end game. And people are worried about A.I? LOL, please, we don't need a machine to run us over on its own. We will drive the machines ourselves.
I suppose it's my fault for trusting modern medicine and corporate machinations. Now, maybe all the chaos and horror stories are exaggerated for political or personal clout. Either way, corona chaos is real in people's minds. That fact has obvious implications for the beneficiaries of such chaos.
"Order through chaos" is a simple idea, but we see that it doesn't play out so simply. Like the order exists somewhere, and obfuscation is actually the whole point. The true slogan of the freemasons should probably change to "Order hidden through chaos". More importantly, I don't see shell shocking everyone as a viable long term strategy.
Shell shocking is why I think we have lost the end game. And people are worried about A.I? LOL, please, we don't need a machine to run us over on its own. We will drive the machines ourselves.
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General Electric Workers Launch Protest, Demand to Make Ventilators
GE workers who normally make jet engines say their facilities are sitting idle while the country faces a dire ventilator shortage.
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Coronavirus can travel twice as far as official ‘safe distance’, study says
Health authorities advise people to stay 1-2 metres apart, but researchers found that a bus passenger infected fellow travellers sitting 4.5 metres away.
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New York COVID Cases Increase To 66,497 Deaths To 1,218
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New York City COVID Cases Increase To 33,474 Deaths To 776
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New Jersey COVID Cases Increase To 16,636 Dead To 198
Positive 16,636 Deaths 198 25,224 Negative This figure includes data reported to the state by the state lab plus seven private laboratory entities, representing about 90 percent of private testing capacity in New Jersey. 211 Calls 7,955 https://www.nj.gov/health/cd/topics/covid2019_dashboard.shtml
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COVID Confirmed In 20 Louisiana Long Term Care Facilities
Coronavirus clusters have been found in Louisiana long-term care facilities, including several in the the New Orleans metro, state health officials said in an update Sunday. The number has increased since the state first started releasing information about long-term care facilities it is monitori...
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The alarming message of Louisiana's sharp rise in Covid-19 cases | CNN
Kent Sepkowitz writes that while many blame out-of-town Mardi Gras visitors for the explosion of coronavirus cases in New Orleans, an unfolding "nightmare" of infection in smaller Shreveport suggests there might be another explanation.
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Tennessee nursing home coronavirus outbreak leaves 2 dead; 101 hospitalized
An outbreak of the coronavirus at one Tennessee nursing home left two dead and more than 100 others hospitalized by Sunday – a week after the state banned most visitors at extended-care facilities.
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Up to 10 percent of recovered coronavirus patients test positive again, report says
As many as 10% of recovered coronavirus patients in China tested positive again after being discharged from the hospital, according to a report.
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