Pretty sure I wasn't talking about you. Rather it was a generalization of past experiences from my forced and voluntary time in church or at various jobs.
But thank you for explaining your solicitation practices.
He should have gotten the death penalty.Tennessee man who raped adopted daughter receives only 12 years
“A former pastor who repeatedly raped his adopted teenage daughter has been given an effective 12 year prison sentence.The Knoxville News Sentinel reports prosecutors sought the maximum term of 72 years behind bars. The judge cited David Richards longtime ministry and the support he still receives as mitigating factors.
More than 30 people showed up to support Richards at the sentencing last week.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/whnt.com/2019/05/13/tennessee-man-who-raped-adopted-daughter-receives-only-12-years/amp/
I’d trust a “homo” around children more than any one who claims KKKristianity.
He should have gotten the death penalty.
I've never heard of soul winning outside this forum. Technically it is solicitation going door to door which personally, from your explanation, doesn't sound productive. Different strokes for different folks.For a person who professes Christianity, it is odd to hear you refer to soul winning as solicitation.
Matthew 7:20 KJVTennessee man who raped adopted daughter receives only 12 years
“A former pastor who repeatedly raped his adopted teenage daughter has been given an effective 12 year prison sentence.The Knoxville News Sentinel reports prosecutors sought the maximum term of 72 years behind bars. The judge cited David Richards longtime ministry and the support he still receives as mitigating factors.
More than 30 people showed up to support Richards at the sentencing last week.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/whnt.com/2019/05/13/tennessee-man-who-raped-adopted-daughter-receives-only-12-years/amp/
I’d trust a “homo” around children more than any one who claims KKKristianity.
You should pray now.He should have gotten the death penalty.
Do you have a prayer request?You should pray now.
I’m surprised to hear that. The Bible actually commands us to preach the Gospel; to be fishers of men. The apostles all went door to door soul winning. We are actually responsible for continuing their work....to go into the highways and hedges and search for the lost and deliver them the Gospel of Jesus Christ.I've never heard of soul winning outside this forum. Technically it is solicitation going door to door which personally, from your explanation, doesn't sound productive. Different strokes for different folks.
I don't think everyone has the penchant for evangelism or preaching either especially when one has bias rather than the mind of God. Been around too many people who distort things with personal bias and ideas that don't exist in the bible.
But good for you.
I'm not saying we shouldn't but not everyone has the capability or spiritual maturity to do these things well. It's why I mentioned personal bias and self gratification. Where individuals believe getting someone saved is the end of their work, its handing a grenade to someone that wants to pull the pin and doesn't know where to throw.I’m surprised to hear that. The Bible actually commands us to preach the Gospel; to be fishers of men. The apostles all went door to door soul winning. We are actually responsible for continuing their work....to go into the highways and hedges and search for the lost and deliver them the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Christians are ambassadors of Christ & we are tasked with this responsibility. It is the work Jesus commanded us to do, and any saved person is capable of performing it, and Christ is counting on us to do it.
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.”.....Mark 16:15 (KJB)
“The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.”.....Proverbs 11:30 (KJB)
“And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.”.......Luke 14:23 (KJB)
Romans 10 (KJB):
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
2 Corinthians 4(KJB):
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
And yes, it IS very effective. People get saved through door to door soul winning throughout the world, and the apostles were the first to go soul winning door to door.
There ARE LOTS of people who WANT to get saved; they just don’t know how or erroneously think it is by works, and have never had the Gospel of salvation by grace through faith alone in Christ Jesus expounded to them.
The harvest is plenty but the laborers few.
That is the work Jesus left for all believers to do, it is called the Great Commission.
There is no personal bias involved, no self-gratification. All that is required is for the soul winner to be saved, because anyone who is saved is indwelled with the Holy Spirit.I'm not saying we shouldn't but not everyone has the capability or spiritual maturity to do these things well. It's why I mentioned personal bias and self gratification. Where individuals believe getting someone saved is the end of their work, its handing a grenade to someone that wants to pull the pin and doesn't know where to throw.
I have no problem with evangelism, not even contesting the verses, my problem lies in individuals believing they can only pass off the gospel and say go to church. Which church? KJV only, why? How will I know if I'm being deceived or joining a cult?
The apostles were giving the gospel, teaching, and training individuals and not everyone is capable of that despite what should versus what is. Jesus knew their sins but he not only gave the gospel without personal bias but godly wisdom and he taught the multitudes.
But hey, it's enough to plant the seed for most people.
I wasn't really asking questions rather posing the issues with inept evangelicals. I know how it should be but more often than not it isn'tThere is no personal bias involved, no self-gratification. All that is required is for the soul winner to be saved, because anyone who is saved is indwelled with the Holy Spirit.
Without the presence of the Holy Spirit through the saved believer, it is impossible to get another saved because it is NOT by our own words or abilities that we get people saved; it is ONLY by the hearing of God’s Word (which is why we open the Bible & show them the Gospel from the Scriptures directly [so they can read along] as we read them aloud) & the Holy Spirit within us that enlightens them to understand His Word, and they choose to believe it or not.
There is no glory in it for us; we are merely the messenger.
1 Corinthians 1: KJB)
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
We do invite them to our church, even though it isn’t required to be saved. It is vital for fellowship with other believers, and hearing preaching by a Spirit-filled Pastor promotes their growth as a Christians & helps steer them away from sin.
Additionally, we help each other with personal sins, praying for & exhorting one another. Everyone has a particular sin they struggle with, and we try to help each other overcome it, or at least not have to suffer through it alone.
At the very least, we will always listen and provide a friendly shoulder to cry on.
And no, we are not a cult, & the visitor or member is free to leave at any time. Nobody will harass them or speak ill of them for leaving. Nobody is asked to do anything they don’t want to. If they don’t want to go soul winning or tithe or fellowship, that’s fine.
NOTHING is forced, and the Pastor encourages our church to TEST ALL THINGS, to verify everything he preaches from the Word of God. He is not offended if people require additional proof from the Bible to back up his preaching...he actually preaches directly from the Bible, proving it as he goes & if someone doesn’t understand something he is more than willing to take the time to expound on his teaching further, showing them from the Bible & patiently answering all their questions.
Yes, we only use the KJB, because it is the only inerrant, Holy Spirit inspired, preserved, direct translation that can be traced back to the original manuscripts.
ALL modern versions are exactly that: versions—NOT—translated from the original manuscripts.
This can be proven by tracing the origins:
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Also, there are no contradictions in the KJB, which is VERY clear, and it is the only Bible that contains the POWER of God in its words.
Try it out for yourself by comparing it with modern versions and if you are saved, pray for God to reveal HIS TRUE WORD to you.
I think I answered all your questions, if you still have some, feel free to ask.
God Bless.
I've grown to try to ignore the awful, fundamentalists of all religions, except when dealing with them online. They are to faith, what tankies are too left-wing politics.,Catholics like Dorothy Day and the Berrigan brothers are personal heroes of mine, and they along with men like Bishop James Pike and Bishop Spong actually make me want to be a Christian, but then I see the fundamentalism that is prevalent here and I can’t help but feel totally revolted.
You know, if you conveniently ignore all of Christ's commands to actually love your neighbor and do good deeds. Matthew 25 is all about compliance and a lack of charity.I’m already saved, so I could just sit on my rump & not worry about whether or not people die & go to Hell.
I don't think most people an issue with religious people promoting chastity. What most people have a problem with is how some Christians seem to judge homosexuals engaging in fornication a lot harsh that heterosexuals in engaging in fornication and treating homosexuals as if their same-sex attraction somehow makes them less of a person.Because telling a person that his lifestyle is wrong and God doesn't approve it is a hate crime...
Ya she was before my time too...but sometimes her movies came on tv.
I didn't leave it, I quoted it specifically but I did mention how that could create a slippery slope.
We already waste tons of fiat on minority non violent drug offenders, why not round up the known pedophiles and try treating them? What do you have to lose, more tax dollars?
You just jump ahead to killing them and while I find the abuse of children abhorrent, far too often we don't try to find out why but let public opinion and feelings take hold leading to conclusions like yours.
Last year two men came out against Afrikaans Bambata accusing him of molesting them when they were children, one of the men admitted to having p***phile like thoughts after his trauma and chose to isolate himself and push others away through violence because these weren't feelings he wanted to act on. He eventually got married and remains repulsed by sex and his trauma. He could very well be a p***phile or a very traumatized individual but I don't think the only help presented to him should be death for a trauma he didn't elect to have placed upon him.
There have been murderers, rapist, thieves, etc that have been reformed and dealt with their demons and while there takes an amount of trust for these people to be released they don't all go back to prison. I think second chances are deserved and if we're going to put that decision in the hands of the government some trust is required.