Comparison of JAHtruth's "The way home or face the Fire" to the bible (part 2)

[Lyfe]

This question has been previously asked, but remains unanswered:

DO YOU KEEP THE LAW/COMMANDMENTS OF GOD (found in the first five books of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy?

This question is now being extended to all who post here against The Word of God (Matt. 12:30) to challenge their qualifications to critique God's Word which, according to Scripture, they are incapable of correctly understanding.

God will only reward those who obey Him with His GIFT of the Holy Spirit in increasing measure, so it should be self-evident that anyone who isn't striving to crucify/deny/destroy their human "self" on a daily basis, to be able to please God by keeping His Law and doing His Will, is completely unqualified to talk about Scripture, i.e. something they know NOTHING about.

If you aren't denying your "self" daily, then you are automatically denying God's GIFT of His Holy Spirit (Luke 12:10). Please consider this very carefully (Rom. 8:5-14).

Luke 2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on Earth peace, good will toward men.

This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Galatians 3:2

If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!” Luke 11:13

...to say that one becomes born again by God's spirit as a result of obedience to the law is false.

Which commandments within the first five books do we keep? The feasts? Circumcision? What about ceremonial cleansing for menstrual impurity? The command to not wear mixed fabrics?

Do you boil the passover and is the lamb the proper age? Or do you do it your own way and transgress the commandments?

 

[A Freeman]

Christ, on our obligation to keep The Law/Commandments of God, exactly as all of the Prophets taught:-

Matthew 5:17-20
5:17 Think NOT that I am come to destroy The Law, or the prophets: I am NOT come to destroy, but to fulfil ("pleroo": to fully preach The Law (The Torah) and fulfill the prophecies about the first coming of the Messiah].
5:18 For verily (truthfully) I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from The Law, till ALL be fulfilled.
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED the righteousness of the scribes (attorneys) and Pharisees (politicians), ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of The Law and Prophecy to fail.

With regard to how the Holy Spirit is given by God to them that obey Him:-

Acts 5:29-32
5:29 Then Peter and the [other] Apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
5:31 Him hath God exalted with His right hand [to be] a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
5:32 And we are His witnesses of these things; and [so is] also the Holy Spirit, whom God hath given to them that obey Him.

It's understood that this very simple and totally scriptural LOGIC evades unbelievers, who are under the mistaken impression they can somehow be "filled with the Holy Spirit" while continuing to sin/break God's Law, as if God will reward them rather than punish them for their continued disobedience. But that simply is NOT how it works.

Here is how one can tell whether one has received and is inspired by the Holy Spirit or not:-

1 John 3:4-11
3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.
3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our (past) sins; and in him (Christ) is no sin.
3:6 Whosoever abideth in him (Christ) sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he (Christ) is righteous.
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the Beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever DOETH NOT righteousness is NOT of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the Beginning (Alpha), that we should love one another.

People can call themselves "Christians", i.e. claim to come in Christ's Name, but if they are not keeping The Law/Commandments of God, then they do NOT actually abide in Christ, nor truly Love anyone (God, Christ or their brother).

This is why those who refuse to keep The Law run to the letters of Paul, and feel they have found refuge from The Law in their MISTAKEN interpretations of what Paul said about The Law.

God does NOT change His Mind about what is right and wrong (Mal. 3:6). The national and moral principles found in The Law are ETERNAL and PERFECT, just as God IS Eternal and Perfect (Matt. 5:48).

 

[A Freeman]

Anyone who falsely claims that we no longer have to keep The Law/obey God, is teaching others we should obey Satan and break God's Commandments/His Law (which is what sinning is - 1 John 3:4).

They are also calling God and Christ liars, and obviously don't believe Paul either, because Paul quite clearly stated that he himself was keeping The Law (Rom. 7:25), that The Law/Commandments of God are holy, just and good (Rom. 7:12), that he was establishing The Law everywhere he went (Rom. 3:31) and that only DOERS of The Law shall be justified (Rom. 2:13)?

Romans 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind (Being) I myself serve The Law of God; but with the flesh (human) the law of sin.

Romans 7:12 Wherefore The Law [is] holy, and the Commandment holy, and just, and good.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void The Law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish The Law.

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of The Law [are] just before God, but the DOERS of The Law (The Torah) shall be justified.

The reason this letter was written to the Romans, is because Rome is where this nonsensical "universal religion" -- which mixes God's Word with overt paganism and lawlessness to appeal to the broader market of paying customers -- began.

Sadly, many of these same pagan traditions have been incorporated into the harlot daughters of the church of Rome, aka the "protestant" denominations (£, $, €, shekels, etc.) to make even more money.

 

[lightseeker]

You don’t keep the law freeman. Or did you go to the temple and sacrifice 2 lambs this year? (And every year)

 

[Lyfe]

You don’t keep the law freeman. Or did you go to the temple and sacrifice 2 lambs this year? (And every year)

Sadly he's not honest with himself. I have seen allot of people use Matthew 5 to say we should not lax the law, but then they go and do exactly that when they say a certain precept no longer pertains to them.

 

[The Sojourner]

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“Seek and you will find”, but ONLY if you seek with ALL your heart (Jeremiah 29:13), and in child-like humility.


One positive thing Anthony John Hill consistently teaches is the need for politeness, including God.

Yes, that is taught consistently as well as the importance thereof, and am glad you can see that.

The Bible does teach that God says to call on Him. Like when He said to Jeremiah:

Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto Me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.

 

[The Sojourner]

The obvious needs to be pointed out. AJH should have used an alternative word like adventure/ous or exciting .... anything but MAGIC!!!!
It certainly does not look good for a self-declared Jesus to use the word "magic" in a positive sense.

3:47 It is like being on a magical mystery tour, and can take you anywhere on Earth, wherever He can use you and teach you best. It is FUN and magic; REAL magic.

Bible study tools - what does magic mean?

Magic-sorcery - Biblegateway encyclopedia of the bible
I. Scope of the terms. In its widest sense magic is the attempt to influence persons and events by recourse to superhuman powers: it is “the science of the occult.” The word derives from the Magi, a priestly caste in Media whose functions have largely been associated with “magic” ever since. They claimed to mediate between gods and men, conducted sacrifices, supervised the disposal of the dead, interpreted dreams, omens, and celestial phenomena, and foretold the future (see Magi)......

Magic - Britannica.com
magic, a concept used to describe a mode of rationality or way of thinking that looks to invisible forces to influence events, effect change in material conditions, or present the illusion of change.....


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3:48 God HAS to provide for you, and for you to eat and drink, in order “to keep body and soul together.”
3:49 So a human-animal-body is ONLY a prison-cell for the soul, within a prison (Earth), millions of miles from home - a maximum security, but open-prison, from which NO-ONE has EVER escaped, and from which no-one ever will.
3:50 That is why mankind, even if allowed, would never find “human” life anywhere, except on this planet. There is life throughout the Universe, but not human-life, because the human body is not needed anywhere else, except on this prison-planet, to serve the sole purpose for which it was designed and created.

Mind over matter: the heresy of Gnosticism

.... Spiritual salvation was of preeminence to the Gnostics because they thought the human spirit was naturally good and was entrapped or imprisoned in the body, which was naturally evil or merely an illusion. Their goal, therefore, was to free the spirit from its embodied prison, and the only key to unlock the prison doors was the mysterious knowledge they possessed....

The Gnostics saw Jesus as a messenger bringing the special knowledge of salvation to humanity's imprisoned soul. They believed that when Jesus came to earth He didn't possess a body like our own; instead, the Gnostics taught that He only seemed to have a physical body (known as the heresy of "docetism," from the Greek verb "to seem")

It distinguishes , by calling it REAL magic.
Have you ever experienced something in your life, that just seemed to be magical? (In a good and amazing way) That made you smile and feel Blessed and wanting to praise and thank God for? Because you know, in that moment, that it's only something He could have done.

Satan tries to steal everything (he is a thief) and to then counterfeit it, because he wants to turn people away from God and fill them with fear.

Nothing Satan does is original; he can only produce a counterfeit to something that is REAL, and then in his counterfeiting try to present it as evil, in his twisted and evil attempts to turn us away from what is actually REAL. Look at all the effort Satan has put into it with even just this example - e.g. by getting various people to produce evil occultic groups that practice all kinds of evil and then getting them to falsely call that "magic", when all they do is obviously just evil, as is evident when you look at their fruits.

That which is good, comes from God (G(o)od).
That which is evil, came from the Devil (D/evil).
It's that simple.

It also says to "NEVER underestimate Satan", in TWHOFTF, and warns us that there is no depth of evil, that he will not sink to, in order to deceive and try to keep people away from God. This includes filling people with irrational fear.

Satan is the Liar, telling lies is what he does. So, we must learn not to listen to Satan and instead learn to ignore him. Because, if ever we listen to Satan, then he WILL deceive us. So we must never listen to Satan.

By explaining to us about REAL magic and what that is really like, it is helping us to begin to see it and taking back from Satan, what he has tried to steal and counterfeit.

REAL magic, when you experience it, is something you can't scarcely even put into words. It brings joy and reassurance, that God is acting and is in control, because it is so wonderful. It can also be referred to as being a personal Miracle (experiencing God's magic, of having personal miracles, etc.), which is also done later in the e-Book.

I have personally experienced it, so I know that it is real!

Satan does not want people to experience having faith in God, so he does everything possible to turn us away and fill us with doubts and with fears. But it is all lies, because Satan is the Liar.

It's high time to start recognising this tactic of Satan and it being of crucial importance that we need to ignore him. In the Scripture, Satan is called "the meanest of creatures", and we do well to remember it. Satan is hateful, angry and evil and he hates all of us, for trying to be good and follow God Who is Good.

 

[A Freeman]

You don’t keep the law freeman. Or did you go to the temple and sacrifice 2 lambs this year? (And every year)

Sadly he's not honest with himself. I have seen allot of people use Matthew 5 to say we should not lax the law, but then they go and do exactly that when they say a certain precept no longer pertains to them.

There is no need to go to any man-made temple (Acts 7:48; 17:24), nor to make substitute animal sacrifices, which were replaced with "self" sacrifice at the cross, when the priesthood was reduced from many to ONE High-Priest for all-time: Christ (Heb. 5:5-10; 6:20; 7:1-3). From that point forward, the animal sacrificed is the human "self" that you live inside of, the sacrifices are DAILY (Matt. 10:38, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23, Luke 14:26-27, Gal. 2:20, Sura 6:162, Sura 92:18-21), and the temple is you.

Ephesians 2:13-18
2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Jesus.
2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition [between us];
2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] The Law of Commandments [contained] in ORDINANCES (circumcision); for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;
2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Colossians 2:13-14
2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath He revitalized together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ORDINANCES that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Anyone that argues against keeping The Law/Commandments of God, or mistakenly believes that All-Knowing God gave us a Law that we cannot keep, doesn't know or love God nor His Christ, and isn't being honest with themselves nor with anyone else.

John 17:3 And THIS is Life Eternal, that they might KNOW Thee the ONLY True God, and Christ the Saviour, whom Thou hast sent.

 

[A Freeman]

It distinguishes , by calling it REAL magic.
Have you ever experienced something in your life, that just seemed to be magical? (In a good and amazing way) That made you smile and feel Blessed and wanting to praise and thank God for? Because you know, in that moment, that it's only something He could have done.

Satan tries to steal everything (he is a thief) and to then counterfeit it, because he wants to turn people away from God and fill them with fear.

Nothing Satan does is original; he can only produce a counterfeit to something that is REAL, and then in his counterfeiting try to present it as evil, in his twisted and evil attempts to turn us away from what is actually REAL. Look at all the effort Satan has put into it with even just this example - e.g. by getting various people to produce evil occultic groups that practice all kinds of evil and then getting them to falsely call that "magic", when all they do is obviously just evil, as is evident when you look at their fruits.

That which is good, comes from God (G(o)od).
That which is evil, came from the Devil (D/evil).
It's that simple.

It also says to "NEVER underestimate Satan", in TWHOFTF, and warns us that there is no depth of evil, that he will not sink to, in order to deceive and try to keep people away from God. This includes filling people with irrational fear.

Satan is the Liar, telling lies is what he does. So, we must learn not to listen to Satan and instead learn to ignore him. Because, if ever we listen to Satan, then he WILL deceive us. So we must never listen to Satan.

By explaining to us about REAL magic and what that is really like, it is helping us to begin to see it and taking back from Satan, what he has tried to steal and counterfeit.

REAL magic, when you experience it, is something you can't scarcely even put into words. It brings joy and reassurance, that God is acting and is in control, because it is so wonderful. It can also be referred to as being a personal Miracle (experiencing God's magic, of having personal miracles, etc.), which is also done later in the e-Book.

I have personally experienced it, so I know that it is real!

Satan does not want people to experience having faith in God, so he does everything possible to turn us away and fill us with doubts and with fears. But it is all lies, because Satan is the Liar.

It's high time to start recognising this tactic of Satan and it being of crucial importance that we need to ignore him. In the Scripture, Satan is called "the meanest of creatures", and we do well to remember it. Satan is hateful, angry and evil and he hates all of us, for trying to be good and follow God Who is Good.

Agreed.

It is EXTREMELY EVIL for someone to question the REAL Magic, aka MIRACLES, that God sends to us on a daily basis, while worshiping and promoting the FAKE (satanic) "magic" of man-made pharmaceutical drugs/medicines/potions/sorcery, the latter of which are all POISONOUS.

Sadly, that's the world we live in, where most are sound asleep spiritually and thus miss out on all of the little MIRACLES that God sends to each of everyday. No wonder we are told that the sleeper (the soul/spirit-Being within, asleep inside the human) MUST awaken (Eph. 5:14).

 

[Lyfe]

There is no need to go to any man-made temple (Acts 7:48; 17:24), nor to make substitute animal sacrifices, which were replaced with "self" sacrifice at the cross, when the priesthood was reduced from many to ONE High-Priest for all-time: Christ (Heb. 5:5-10; 6:20; 7:1-3). From that point forward, the animal sacrificed is the human "self" that you live inside of, the sacrifices are DAILY (Matt. 10:38, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23, Luke 14:26-27, Gal. 2:20, Sura 6:162, Sura 92:18-21), and the temple is you.

Ephesians 2:13-18
2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Jesus.
2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition [between us];
2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] The Law of Commandments [contained] in ORDINANCES (circumcision); for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;
2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Colossians 2:13-14
2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath He revitalized together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ORDINANCES that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Anyone that argues against keeping The Law/Commandments of God, or mistakenly believes that All-Knowing God gave us a Law that we cannot keep, doesn't know or love God nor His Christ, and isn't being honest with themselves nor with anyone else.

John 17:3 And THIS is Life Eternal, that they might KNOW Thee the ONLY True God, and Christ the Saviour, whom Thou hast sent.

I'm curious...

What about the feasts and dietary laws? Laws dealing with impurities and various uncleannesses? Also the law that forbids wearing clothing with mixed fabrics?

There's no real agreement among modern judaizers on which laws we are still to keep. According to many who we are still obligated to observe the feasts.

 

[A Freeman]

I'm curious...

What about the feasts and dietary laws?

There's no reason why the feasts cannot still be kept. The dietary laws are mandatory, for good reason. We are literally destroying the planet to harvest creatures on land (e.g. the pig) and from the sea (e.g. crustaceans) that are part of the planetary waste management system, and thus not clean nor fit for human consumption.

https://hannahmichaels.wordpress.com/2016/03/12/the-perfect-healthy-diet/

Laws dealing with impurities and various uncleannesses?

Why would any of that change? Are we not in desperate need of learning to differentiate between the clean and unclean?

Most if not all disease on Earth today is because of two things: a lack of sanitary conditions and a lack of clean, nutritional food, water and breathable air. That's why The Law tells us that if we keep it God will reward/bless us, but if we don't, He will send punishments/curses, to correct or errant behavior.

Also the law that forbids wearing clothing with mixed fabrics?

Does it actually say "mixed fabrics" please? Or does it not specifically tell us not to mix linen with wool?

Leviticus 19:19 Ye shall keep My Statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.

Deuteronomy 22:9-11
22:9 Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with diverse seeds: lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.
22:10 Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together.
22:11 Thou shalt not wear a garment of diverse sorts, [as] of woollen and linen together.

Is it really too much for God to ask that we not mix linen and wool? Or do we need to find out the hard way that those two materials expand and contract at very different rates, which is why such garments cannot be cleaned and wind up tearing themselves apart?

Like kind with like kind is actually a very important spiritual lesson, as is everything else in The Law.

There's no real agreement among modern judaizers on which laws we are still to keep. According to many who we are still obligated to observe the feasts.

As above please. The organized religion that calls itself "Judaism" is based upon the Talmud rather than on The Law, regardless of what these counterfeit Jews have conned the rest of the world into believing, e.g. the "Christian Zionists". The Law that God gave us prohibits the writing of or use of the Talmud, aka "the traditions of men" (Deut. 4:2; 12:32), upon pain of death (Deut. 17:11-13).

 

[Lyfe]

There's no reason why the feasts cannot still be kept. The dietary laws are mandatory, for good reason. We are literally destroying the planet to harvest creatures on land (e.g. the pig) and from the sea (e.g. crustaceans) that are part of the planetary waste management system, and thus not clean nor fit for human consumption.

https://hannahmichaels.wordpress.com/2016/03/12/the-perfect-healthy-diet/


Why would any of that change? Are we not in desperate need of learning to differentiate between the clean and unclean?

Most if not all disease on Earth today is because of two things: a lack of sanitary conditions and a lack of clean, nutritional food, water and breathable air. That's why The Law tells us that if we keep it God will reward/bless us, but if we don't, He will send punishments/curses, to correct or errant behavior.


Does it actually say "mixed fabrics" please? Or does it not specifically tell us not to mix linen with wool?

Leviticus 19:19 Ye shall keep My Statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.

Deuteronomy 22:9-11
22:9 Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with diverse seeds: lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.
22:10 Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together.
22:11 Thou shalt not wear a garment of diverse sorts, [as] of woollen and linen together.

Is it really too much for God to ask that we not mix linen and wool? Or do we need to find out the hard way that those two materials expand and contract at very different rates, which is why such garments cannot be cleaned and wind up tearing themselves apart.

Like kind with like kind is actually a very important spiritual lesson, as is everything else in The Law.


As above please. The organized religion that calls itself "Judaism" is based upon the Talmud rather than on The Law, regardless of what these counterfeit Jews have conned the rest of the world into believing, e.g. the "Christian Zionists". The Law that God gave us prohibits the writing of or use of the Talmud, aka "the traditions of men" (Deut. 4:2; 12:32), upon pain of death (Deut. 17:11-13).

There was actually pretty specific instruction in regards to these feasts. The passover is a good example. It had to be done in the exact way as God commanded otherwise it was not accepted. The lamb had to be the right age and without what was considered to be blemish, it has to be prepared the right way and at the designated place, and they couldn't eat the leftovers (if I remember right). They had to boil the first passover. People couldn't just bbq an old lamb and eat any sort of bread they wanted. It had to be done God's way as commanded.

I'm asking about the biblical feasts, because I see many command others to observe them. The feast of booths would be another tricky one.

...either way I am not under obligation to keep them, but for those who think they must these are things they would need to know.

Cant you see though that the law will eventually lead you into bondage? Paul called it bondage, because if you think you can pick and choose what's to be kept then you are wrong. You become a debtor to all of it as is commanded in the law.

 

[A Freeman]

There was actually pretty specific instruction in regards to these feasts. The passover is a good example. It had to be done in the exact way as God commanded otherwise it was not accepted. The lamb had to be the right age and without what was considered to be blemish, it has to be prepared the right way and at the designated place, and they couldn't eat the leftovers (if I remember right). They had to boil the first passover.

The Law specifically states that the Lamb should be roasted with fire, NOT boiled. The Passover and subsequent Feast of Unleavened Bread (some refer to the entire period as "the Passover" because unleavened bread is eaten throughout) are both instructional and have deep spiritual meaning, foreshadowing Father's Sacrifice of the unblemished Lamb of God. The three feasts were later held in the land of Israel to provide a time of gathering, when The Law was read to the people, so that everyone was taught and knew The Law.

People couldn't just bbq an old lamb and eat any sort of bread they wanted. It had to be done God's way as commanded.

Agreed. Everything for a reason.

I'm asking about the biblical feasts, because I see many command others to observe them. The feast of booths would be another tricky one.

...either way I am not under obligation to keep them, but for those who think they must these are things they would need to know.

Everyone on Earth is obligated to keep and enforce only The Law that God gave us, because everyone is party to the Covenant, whether they recognize that fact or not.

Deuteronomy 29:9-15
29:9 Keep therefore the words of this Covenant, and DO them, that ye may prosper in all that ye do.
29:10 Ye stand this day all of you before the "I AM" your God; your captains of your tribes, your elders, and your officers, [with] all the men of Israel,
29:11 Your little ones, your wives, and thy stranger that [is] in thy camp, from the hewer of thy wood unto the drawer of thy water:
29:12 That thou shouldest enter into Covenant with the "I AM" thy God, and into His Oath, which the "I AM" thy God maketh with thee this day:
29:13 That He may establish thee to day for a people unto Himself, and [that] He may be unto thee a God, as He hath said unto thee, and as He hath sworn unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob/Israel.
29:14 Neither with you only do I make this Covenant and this Oath;
29:15 But with [him] that standeth here with us this day before the "I AM" our God, and ALSO with [him] that [is] NOT HERE with us this day [thy children, in PERPETUITY]:

God so loved the entire world that He gave us the Lamb of God, to pay for our past sins (Rom. 3:25) and provide us with a NEW Covenant. The terms and conditions however of the New Covenant are the same as that of the Old Covenant regarding the National and Moral Law that God gave us: we must ALL keep God's Law and enforce His Statutes, Judgments and Commandments ONLY.

Our continued disobedience in not living up to our end of the Covenants (a covenant is a promise of performance entered into by two or more parties, in this case between God and mankind, i.e. it is a contract without the "con") is the root cause of all of our difficulties, and why we have remained impoverished and enslaved, more so now than at any other time in human history (the great oppression/tribulation - Matt. 24:21-22).

Cant you see though that the law will eventually lead you into bondage?

You have it exactly backwards. Can you not see it's the other way around please? It is SIN (the breaking of The Law) that brings one into BONDAGE TO SIN. The ONLY Way to break free of that bondage to SIN is by keeping The Law.

Please see it laid out for you in the simplest, SCRIPTURAL terms possible.

SIN = BREAKING THE LAW
1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.

THE PENALTIES (CURSES) FOR BREAKING THE LAW - see Deut. 28:15-68, which includes multiple plagues and eventual DEATH.

BONDAGE IS TO SIN
(KJV) John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin IS THE PRISONER OF SIN.

CHRIST COMMANDED THAT WE MUST KEEP THE LAW, AND STRIVE FOR PERFECTION IN DOING SO - see Matt. 5:17-20, 5:48). Please note well from Matthew 5:19 that all those who teach that we don't have to keep The Law/Commandments of God (purportedly because Paul said so) are considered by God to be the lowest of the low (the least).

Paul NEVER told people not to keep The Law. And even if Paul had done so (which he most certainly did not), on whose authority would he have done that? Paul was a STUDENT of Christ, NOT The Teacher. Christ is THE One and Only Teacher (Matt. 23:9), Mediator (1 Tim. 2:5), High-Priest (Heb. 5:5-10) and appointed HEIR (Heb. 1:1-4), NOT Paul.

The spiritually blind people that teach others that Paul allegedly did away with The Law ignore the verses already shared where Paul himself states that he was definitely living by The Law, which he considered to be holy, just and good, and that he was establishing The Law everywhere he went knowing that only DOERS of The Law shall be justified.

Everyone who refuses to keep The Law is still in BONDAGE TO SIN, exactly as Jesus said. Satan leads us into bondage to sin, while Father (God) leads us into FREEDOM AND JUSTICE with His Law.

Paul called it bondage, because if you think you can pick and choose what's to be kept then you are wrong. You become a debtor to all of it as is commanded in the law.

Paul NEVER called The Law bondage; God forbid! Paul called The Law/Commandments of God the exact opposite: HOLY, JUST AND GOOD.

You are attempting to call evil (Isa. 5:20-21) what God calls GOOD (Deut. 30:15-20), by choosing to ignore ALL of God's Prophets, Christ, the Disciples, the Apostles (including Paul) consistently stated throughout the Bible, so that you can continue to be in bondage to sin. The same bondage to sin that Christ freed us from ONCE with His Sacrifice.

Hebrews 10:26-29
10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the Knowledge of The Truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of Judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
10:28 He that despised Moses' Law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of The Covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

 

[JoChris]

Yes, that is taught consistently as well as the importance thereof, and am glad you can see that.

The Bible does teach that God says to call on Him. Like when He said to Jeremiah:

Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto Me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.

I always aim to be fair and give credit when it is due.

I love the Book of Proverbs for all guidance for conduct, wisdom and right thinking! One thing King Solomon had in common with Jesus was his incredible ability with words.
The clarity of communication, the conciseness of speech!
The words are simple enough for children to understand, but the depth of wisdom is beyond human ability.

Solomon puts it much better of course :



Only Jesus could outdo Solomon where it came to words, and Jesus certainly did.

RE your above entry justifying AJH's use of the word magic:
The bible's words leave no confusion about what the author/s intend to communicate.
If something is called immoral or sinful in the bible, it will not be used as a word in a positive sense in another context.

Definition of MAGIC

the use of means (such as charms or spells) believed to have supernatural power over natural forces; magic rites or incantations; an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

The word Magic in the bible is used to describe sorcery. God does not permit either the Jews or Christians to use magic.
Jesus never mentioned magic or used words associated with sins in a positive sense.

 

[JoChris]

You don’t keep the law freeman. Or did you go to the temple and sacrifice 2 lambs this year? (And every year)

For entertainment's sake: https://jforjustice.net/

Laws may be broken if Anthony John Hill (JAHtruth) says so.

 

[A Freeman]

I always aim to be fair and give credit when it is due.

I love the Book of Proverbs for all guidance for conduct, wisdom and right thinking! One thing King Solomon had in common with Jesus was his incredible ability with words.
The clarity of communication, the conciseness of speech!
The words are simple enough for children to understand, but the depth of wisdom is beyond human ability.

Solomon puts it much better of course :

View attachment 86831

Only Jesus could outdo Solomon where it came to words, and Jesus certainly did.

RE your above entry justifying AJH's use of the word magic:
The bible's words leave no confusion about what the author/s intend to communicate.
If something is called immoral or sinful in the bible, it will not be used as a word in a positive sense in another context.

Definition of MAGIC

the use of means (such as charms or spells) believed to have supernatural power over natural forces; magic rites or incantations; an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

The word Magic in the bible is used to describe sorcery. God does not permit either the Jews or Christians to use magic.
Jesus never mentioned magic or used words associated with sins in a positive sense.

If someone is actually striving to be just, fair and honest, then they they should investigate the Greek word "pharmakeia", to see what it really means:-

From : https://biblehub.com/greek/5331.htm

Strong's Concordance
pharmakeia: the use of medicine, drugs or spells
Original Word: φαρμακεία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: pharmakeia
Phonetic Spelling: (far-mak-i'-ah)
Definition: the use of medicine, drugs or spells
Usage: magic, sorcery, enchantment.

HELPS Word-studies
5331 pharmakeía (from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") – properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts, etc. (A. T. Robertson).

The reason that people call drug-related sorcery, i.e. the use of medicine drugs or spells, etc. as MAGIC is because it attempts to MIMIC what only Father can do, thereby deceiving people.

Directly from The Law:
Father (God) is our HEALER, NOT a bunch of witch doctors with their "magic" potions, pills and shots.

Exodus 15:26 And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the "I AM" thy God, and wilt do that which is right in His eyes, and wilt give ear to His Commandments, and keep all His Statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I [am] the "I AM" that healeth thee.

God can only work Miracles (REAL MAGIC) in those who BELIEVE Him and put their FAITH in HIM, rather than in men and their FAKE MAGIC, which poisons people and keeps them sick their entire life with the "diseases of Egypt" (that Egypt suffered from due to their PHARMACY.

All those who have been deceived into modern day PHARMACY/SORCERY/WITCHCRAFT are breaking The Law, and the First Commandment.

Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the Earth; for by THY SORCERIES (pharmakeia) were all nations DECEIVED.

 

[A Freeman]

For entertainment's sake: https://jforjustice.net/

Laws may be broken if Anthony John Hill (JAHtruth) says so.

Man-made legislation, rules, traditions, etc. are NOT "law".

When someone places their trust in worldly institutions rather than placing their trust in God, they become so confused that actually believe that the UNLAWFULLY fabricated rules, legislation, policies, procedure, and "codes", etc. of MEN, aka "the traditions of men" are allegedly "law".

The ONLY Law that is VALID on this planet is The Law that God gave us. And His Law expressly prohibits the man-made legislation upon pain of death (Deut. 17:11-13), i.e. the adding to or the subtracting from God's PERFECT Law.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not ADD unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the Commandments of the "I AM" your God which I COMMAND you.

Deuteronomy 12:8 Ye shall not do after all [the things] that we do here this day, every man whatsoever [is] right in his own eyes.

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

The traditions of men make the Commandments of God of no effect (Matt. 15:3, 9), and today men have made up MILLIONS of books FILLED with their made-up traditions, rules, legislation, etc., which "legalize" the breaking of God's Law/Commandments, while at the same time making it "illegal" to keep and obey God's Law/Commandments.

Christ (JAH) not only keeps The Law that God gave us, but He is The One God has sent to be THE LAW-GIVER, JUDGE and the King of kings and Lord of lords.

Why don't you keep The Law @JoChris? Why do you teach and promote lawlessness?

Why do you teach and promote disobedience to God and His Christ?

Why do you teach and promote disobedience to God's Law?

Why do you teach and promote the unlawful use of sorcery/pharmacy to poison people instead of the healing power of God?

Why do you teach and promote the satanic, fabricated rules of men, e.g. the "legalization" of murder in the form of war, the "legalization" of theft in the form of taxes, licenses, and fees, etc. instead of God's Perfect Law of Liberty?

Why do you teach and promote the "legalization" of fornication, adultery, sodomy and homosexuality, etc., instead of promoting God's Law, under which those are capital crimes?

Why do you teach and promote the bearing of false witness against others, when God COMMANDS us not to do that?

Why do you teach and promote dishonesty?

What happened to you please, to turn you into someone that has so little faith in God?

Do you mistakenly feel you are able to judge God too, as you judge His Christ?

Do you mistakenly feel that you won't ever be held accountable for the thinking, saying/writing and doing of all of this evil?

Do you really find all of this to be a laughing matter?

 

[Lyfe]

The Law specifically states that the Lamb should be roasted with fire, NOT boiled. The Passover and subsequent Feast of Unleavened Bread (some refer to the entire period as "the Passover" because unleavened bread is eaten throughout) are both instructional and have deep spiritual meaning, foreshadowing Father's Sacrifice of the unblemished Lamb of God. The three feasts were later held in the land of Israel to provide a time of gathering, when The Law was read to the people, so that everyone was taught and knew The Law.


Agreed. Everything for a reason.



Everyone on Earth is obligated to keep and enforce only The Law that God gave us, because everyone is party to the Covenant, whether they recognize that fact or not.

Deuteronomy 29:9-15
29:9 Keep therefore the words of this Covenant, and DO them, that ye may prosper in all that ye do.
29:10 Ye stand this day all of you before the "I AM" your God; your captains of your tribes, your elders, and your officers, [with] all the men of Israel,
29:11 Your little ones, your wives, and thy stranger that [is] in thy camp, from the hewer of thy wood unto the drawer of thy water:
29:12 That thou shouldest enter into Covenant with the "I AM" thy God, and into His Oath, which the "I AM" thy God maketh with thee this day:
29:13 That He may establish thee to day for a people unto Himself, and [that] He may be unto thee a God, as He hath said unto thee, and as He hath sworn unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob/Israel.
29:14 Neither with you only do I make this Covenant and this Oath;
29:15 But with [him] that standeth here with us this day before the "I AM" our God, and ALSO with [him] that [is] NOT HERE with us this day [thy children, in PERPETUITY]:

God so loved the entire world that He gave us the Lamb of God, to pay for our past sins (Rom. 3:25) and provide us with a NEW Covenant. The terms and conditions however of the New Covenant are the same as that of the Old Covenant regarding the National and Moral Law that God gave us: we must ALL keep God's Law and enforce His Statutes, Judgments and Commandments ONLY.

Our continued disobedience in not living up to our end of the Covenants (a covenant is a promise of performance entered into by two or more parties, in this case between God and mankind, i.e. it is a contract without the "con") is the root cause of all of our difficulties, and why we have remained impoverished and enslaved, more so now than at any other time in human history (the great oppression/tribulation - Matt. 24:21-22).


You have it exactly backwards. Can you not see it's the other way around please? It is SIN (the breaking of The Law) that brings one into BONDAGE TO SIN. The ONLY Way to break free of that bondage to SIN is by keeping The Law.

Please see it laid out for you in the simplest, SCRIPTURAL terms possible.

SIN = BREAKING THE LAW
1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.

THE PENALTIES (CURSES) FOR BREAKING THE LAW - see Deut. 28:15-68, which includes multiple plagues and eventual DEATH.

BONDAGE IS TO SIN
(KJV) John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin IS THE PRISONER OF SIN.

CHRIST COMMANDED THAT WE MUST KEEP THE LAW, AND STRIVE FOR PERFECTION IN DOING SO - see Matt. 5:17-20, 5:48). Please note well from Matthew 5:19 that all those who teach that we don't have to keep The Law/Commandments of God (purportedly because Paul said so) are considered by God to be the lowest of the low (the least).

Paul NEVER told people not to keep The Law. And even if Paul had done so (which he most certainly did not), on whose authority would he have done that? Paul was a STUDENT of Christ, NOT The Teacher. Christ is THE One and Only Teacher (Matt. 23:9), Mediator (1 Tim. 2:5), High-Priest (Heb. 5:5-10) and appointed HEIR (Heb. 1:1-4), NOT Paul.

The spiritually blind people that teach others that Paul allegedly did away with The Law ignore the verses already shared where Paul himself states that he was definitely living by The Law, which he considered to be holy, just and good, and that he was establishing The Law everywhere he went knowing that only DOERS of The Law shall be justified.

Everyone who refuses to keep The Law is still in BONDAGE TO SIN, exactly as Jesus said. Satan leads us into bondage to sin, while Father (God) leads us into FREEDOM AND JUSTICE with His Law.


Paul NEVER called The Law bondage; God forbid! Paul called The Law/Commandments of God the exact opposite: HOLY, JUST AND GOOD.

You are attempting to call evil (Isa. 5:20-21) what God calls GOOD (Deut. 30:15-20), by choosing to ignore ALL of God's Prophets, Christ, the Disciples, the Apostles (including Paul) consistently stated throughout the Bible, so that you can continue to be in bondage to sin. The same bondage to sin that Christ freed us from ONCE with His Sacrifice.

Hebrews 10:26-29
10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the Knowledge of The Truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of Judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
10:28 He that despised Moses' Law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of The Covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

So then you would agree that if I sinned once I broke the law and thus failed to keep it?

...an example. There are times that I feel God prompt me into prayer and I don't feel like it. Now you could break this down into sin as it's a failure for me to know what the right thing to do is, bot not do it. Not only that but it's also a failure to love God with all my heart mind soul and strength. Heck you could also even break that down into idolatry, the idolatry of myself. How we fall short to love God in the perfect manner he deserves!

How can one say they keep the law of even one sin was laid to their charge in a single day?

The feasts would actually require a study on how to PROPERLY observe them. You believe it's right to add this also to the list of obligations for God's people? I would contend through scripture this is a burden Paul strongly opposed! You can keep and observe all these things, but if you sin once you break the whole law and become unrighteous and in need of a savior and his grace all over again!

 

[The Sojourner]

I always aim to be fair and give credit when it is due.

I love the Book of Proverbs for all guidance for conduct, wisdom and right thinking! One thing King Solomon had in common with Jesus was his incredible ability with words.
The clarity of communication, the conciseness of speech!
The words are simple enough for children to understand, but the depth of wisdom is beyond human ability.

Solomon puts it much better of course :

View attachment 86831

Only Jesus could outdo Solomon where it came to words, and Jesus certainly did.

RE your above entry justifying AJH's use of the word magic:
The bible's words leave no confusion about what the author/s intend to communicate.
If something is called immoral or sinful in the bible, it will not be used as a word in a positive sense in another context.

Definition of MAGIC

the use of means (such as charms or spells) believed to have supernatural power over natural forces; magic rites or incantations; an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

The word Magic in the bible is used to describe sorcery. God does not permit either the Jews or Christians to use magic.
Jesus never mentioned magic or used words associated with sins in a positive sense.

The Bible always gives examples and context in order to make the meanings clear.
It's idolatry that is forbidden - the worshipping or appealing to any power other than God.
Words are not unlawful in themselves, it is what is being conveyed that is important - the meaning.
If one is speaking of God's magic, and understand that it means that it is from Him and therefore REAL and not a deceptive illusion, then it is not a reference to idolatry or an appeal to any other source of illusory power. Instead, its giving credit to God.

I say let people read it and make up their own mind as to what it means and what they want to believe about what it conveys and ask God about it.

Words fail. The letter killeth, it is the Spirit that giveth Life.

I do find that people, and what they say, most of the time will hinder your walk with God, rather than help it. That's why I often tend to avoid people for periods of time. Enoch was wise and didn't walk with people. Instead, he chose wisely and walked with God. Jesus sat by the well, to get away from people, and He rested.

 

[A Freeman]

So then you would agree that if I sinned once I broke the law and thus failed to keep it?

This is a very tired old argument that "Christians" use to basically give up making any effort to keep The Law. "If I've already sinned once, then I might as well keep sinning as often as I like, since (allegedly) no one can keep The Law". This followed by "and anyway, Jesus paid for my sins so that I now have the freedom to sin with impunity. Why would anyone wish to not have that 'freedom' to continue sinning/doing whatever I believe is right in my own eyes (Deut. 12:8)?"

The only way to get to know Father (God) is to spend time with Him. To obey Him. To ask for His Guidance with each and every little thing, all day long. It is such an amazing experience that once you begin you'll wonder why you ever stopped or why you didn't start earlier. He can bless every project with a level of perfection that was previously thought to be impossible. But it requires drawing closer to Him through discipline and obedience, exactly as it repeatedly says in Scripture.

Once you are on this narrow path (The Way - Matt. 7:13-14), you won't want to do anything that is unlawful/sinful, realizing that The Law is absolutely perfect in every way. It has the perfect system of governance, the perfect system of justice, the perfect agricultural policy, the perfect economic policy and the perfect healthy diet, all of which are designed to provide everyone with a crime and poverty free existence, while protecting and working with our natural environment.

Even the slightest shortcut you won't want to take, because you know that Father would find it offensive, having come to the understanding that everything Father does is purposeful and for the collective good, and that the little things are often as important if not more important than the big things. It is through the little things that we can easily be tempted. THAT is what James 2:10 is really talking about.

It is the striving for perfection that is absolutely necessary (Matt. 5:48). Father will draw closer to anyone who is doing that (James 4:8) and help in every way possible to ensure that you don't break The Law, by pointing things out to you in real time, i.e. in the moment.

The alternative is to remain in slavery/bondage to sin, gripped and manipulated by fear.

...an example. There are times that I feel God prompt me into prayer and I don't feel like it. Now you could break this down into sin as it's a failure for me to know what the right thing to do is, bot not do it. Not only that but it's also a failure to love God with all my heart mind soul and strength. Heck you could also even break that down into idolatry, the idolatry of myself. How we fall short to love God in the perfect manner he deserves!

The question it sounds like you need to ask is this: if YOU decided that you were dedicated to doing Father's Will, then what is it that could possibly stop you from doing that, other than your "self"? Father has promised to help anyone who helps themselves to Him through obedience to His Law, by giving them the Holy Spirit in relation to how well they choose to obey. And His Promises are ALWAYS kept.

Again, if YOU (the spiritual-Being) feels God has prompted you to do something, and you truly Love God, what could possibly stop you?

How can one say they keep the law of even one sin was laid to their charge in a single day?

How can one resign themselves to a life imprisoned by sin because of an irrational fear of failure? How could Father possibly fail any of us IF we set our minds at ONE with His Mind, to DO His Will? With Father (God), ALL things are possible.

The feasts would actually require a study on how to PROPERLY observe them. You believe it's right to add this also to the list of obligations for God's people? I would contend through scripture this is a burden Paul strongly opposed!

And you would again be in error, not correctly understanding what Paul has said. Paul NEVER did away with The Law, nor taught anyone that they didn't have to keep The Law. Do you not care enough about doing God's Will to take the time to study His Law, asking Him (God) for HIS Guidance on what is proper?

IF your goal is to do His Will, Father WILL help you find the answer, when you're ready to receive it.

You can keep and observe all these things, but if you sin once you break the whole law and become unrighteous and in need of a savior and his grace all over again!

The ONLY Way to remain in Father's Good Graces is to strive for perfection in everything that you do, as if He is with you at all times, watching over everything you are thinking, saying and doing which, of course, He is.

God is NOT an idiot; He did NOT give us a law no one can keep, nor hope that we would give up. Nor did Father send His Prophets, His Firstborn Son and the Disciples and Apostles to remind us that we need to remember and return to His Law, if that wasn't exactly what we all NEED to do.