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I also thought of circus in their sense. Bts are the first kpop group i ever took interest in so all of it is new to me. The girl bands seem to be even worse, they look hungry!

In the way tae has been supoortive of txt (while most of the others arent) make me feel like he wants them to take over their place sometimes, but maybe he's just nice in an andustry of assholes
I think all of them were equally supportive on stage for txt.. If you ask me it was jin who was vocal for the very first time about supporting their young ones.. Then jin gave them his mic to sing along with them.. Then h0b1 made them dance and told them they're doing good.. K00k was good with bringing them to the front with them and patted them.. Suga is always in different so we all know.. I kind of see a very little support from V towards the juniors.. The hyung line supported and properly showed
 

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so don't hate on me guys...but i went to the concert at the Rosebowl... but before any reactions, i just wanna say, i am fully aware of what's been talked about here what we see that is obvious that there's more than meets the eye, so since then I have and still do view them differently as just like any other artist in the music industry these days, since we live in this fallen world, it's hard to avoid what we have to live with and see in entertainment. If i'm gonna be honest and i'm not proud of it, i do listen to only a (very)few of their songs and wanted to see how they sounded live and the vibe they give off since I've never seen them in person. So I went with the intent of observation. I even had to leave the concert early and didn't finish the show because I didn't think it was worth staying to be in that chaos of a crowd that was there to be stuck for hours afterwards when i need to be somewhere early the next day...it was like a mad house and I'm glad i left early. Sorry i don't have pictures but here are things I noticed, though to me it seemed it wasn't loud and in your face with the symbolisms at the show in my opinion but still you can pinpont things that are questionable in addition to the ones that someone already posted earlier:

-their intro video had the black/white checkered floors (why did it have to be checkered and not just a regular floor?) & the greek god theme they opened with. (dionysus)
-throwing out hand signs as usual
- when the song "Idol" came on, RrrMm screamed, "we are idols!!!" (that made me a little uncomfortable)

but that's all I noticed. the army around me were going all hype and alot of them were crying. I still don't get that and find it over the top but i guess when people are too emotionally invested so much in them...its a given.Merchandise was overpriced. The venue was just overall disorganized and chaotic but still thousands of people came and dealt with the madness. But if I have to view the show in the lens and shoes of those who aren't woke, it was pretty entertaining and they put on a good show and can actually sing and dance well on the surface. The people that I was with that were only there to chaperone their kids had no clue who they were or their music even thought it was entertaining. its no wonder why maybe the industry/elite is using them and keeping them on top because they get people's attention. sad to see good talent being used for the wrong motives.
 
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Actually in terms of numbers BTS pales compared to 1D, by a lot. At their prime, 1 D held a stadium tour in US, South America, Europe and Australia and played stadiums only in many different cities, not just 3. They sold out Metlife, Rose Bowl and Wembley 3 nights in addition to other other huge stadiums. Backstreet boys are the 18th best selling artists of all time with 300 million records sold. 1D sold 50 million records. BTS is bigger in Asia, especially Japan, which makes sense. Boyband shortlived success is not new, the teenage female market is the most lucrative and easily accessible in the industry. Same with movies/books, remember Twilight? It honestly was one of the most unoririginal poorly written teen love stories, yet all the hype. Retrospectively everyone agrees it sucked. Once the hype dies down, no one will care.

Although with RM throwing in those one eyed handsigns so explicitly at the whole audience in a concert, you never know. Maybe they have higher ambitions. They arent hiding their satanic handsigns in choreagraphy/photoshoots anymore, reminds you of JayZ and his obvious satanic hand signs at every concert. The blind items about JayZ and Beyonce are truly disturbing. If they are allegedly true he deserves the electrical chair, a nasty criminal no doubt. Not only him, but other so called music moguls. Their debauchery knows no end.

their fandom is really big but their popularity seems huge, more to do with social media and the hype around it

But....you are right. At their peak 1D were more popular and actually had popular songs. Something BTS cant get even if they make songs with Halsey or Minaj

I do wonder why some artists use so much symbolism and others dont

For example....1D were extremely popular but they never needed to do hand sign every second like BTS does

Then you have Beyonce....we all know all her videos are full of this symbolism and she is very popular but other artists like Adele are at the top too and she doesnt need to spread all that propaganda to get there
 

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so don't hate on me guys...but i went to the concert at the Rosebowl... but before any reactions, i just wanna say, i am fully aware of what's been talked about here what we see that is obvious that there's more than meets the eye, so since then I have and still do view them differently as just like any other artist in the music industry these days, since we live in this fallen world, it's hard to avoid what we have to live with and see in entertainment. If i'm gonna be honest and i'm not proud of it, i do listen to only a (very)few of their songs and wanted to see how they sounded live and the vibe they give off since I've never seen them in person. So I went with the intent of observation. I even had to leave the concert early and didn't finish the show because I didn't think it was worth staying to be in that chaos of a crowd that was there to be stuck for hours afterwards when i need to be somewhere early the next day...it was like a mad house and I'm glad i left early. Sorry i don't have pictures but here are things I noticed, though to me it seemed it wasn't loud and in your face with the symbolisms at the show in my opinion but still you can pinpont things that are questionable in addition to the ones that someone already posted earlier:

-their intro video had the black/white checkered floors & the greek god theme
-throwing out hand signs as usual
- when the song "Idol" came on, RrrMm screamed, "we are idols!!!" (that made me a little uncomfortable)

but that's all I noticed. the army around me were going all hype and alot of them were crying. I still don't get that and find it over the top but i guess when people are too emotionally invested so much in them...its a given.Merchandise was overpriced. The venue was just overall disorganized and chaotic but still thousands of people came and dealt with the madness. But if I have to view the show in the lens and shoes of those who aren't woke, it was pretty entertaining and they put on a good show and can actually sing and dance well on the surface. The people that I was with that were only there to chaperone their kids had no clue who they were or their music even thought it was entertaining. its no wonder why maybe the industry/elite is using them and keeping them on top because they get people's attention. sad to see good talent being used for the wrong motives.
its fine we are all free to do what we want
A lot of people here are still fans.....but its sad because sometimes I wonder....is this thread really helping our cause??

A lot of people here are still so atached to them and love them, this means BTS and Big Hit are winning in the end
Those fans who dont know or believe about these theories at least hace that excuse....but what excuse do we have to keep giving money to Big Hit after everything we share here?

No offence to you tho....its just makes me sad to see users coming here and say they go to their concerts and pay money to see them. Its like VC writting about Beyonce and then saying "oh yeah I went to her concert last weekend".....
I dont blame you because I understand its hard to let go but it just makes me sad because I feel like all we share here is useless
 
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their fandom is really big but their popularity seems huge, more to do with social media and the hype around it

But....you are right. At their peak 1D were more popular and actually had popular songs. Something BTS cant get even if they make songs with Halsey or Minaj

I do wonder why some artists use so much symbolism and others dont

For example....1D were extremely popular but they never needed to do hand sign every second like BTS does

Then you have Beyonce....we all know all her videos are full of this symbolism and she is very popular but other artists like Adele are at the top too and she doesnt need to spread all that propaganda to get there
I agree that while all mainstream entertainers has shown these signs at some point either conciously or unknowingly some tend to do it more often than others. Bigshit in general falls sonewhere in the middle , altough has been increasing the signs more and more lately. Some have very blatant signs such as Diplo. There is nothing hidden about this, look at all the baphomets on his hoodie. I wonder where he got it.
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its fine we are all free to do what we want
A lot of people here are still fans.....but its sad because sometimes I wonder....is this thread really helping our cause??

A lot of people here are still so atached to them and love them, this means BTS and Big Hit are winning in the end
Those fans who dont know or believe about these theories at least hace that excuse....but what excuse do we have to keep giving money to Big Hit after everything we share here?

No offence to you tho....lits just makes me sad to see users coming here and say they go to their concerts and pay money to see them. Its like VC weritting about Beyonce and then saying "oh yeah I went to her concert last weekend".....
I dont blame you because I understand its hard to let go but it just makes me sad because I feel like all we share here is useless
yah like i said, i'm not proud of many things I deal with and done, im not perfect in any way, I'm just like any other human being that will continue to be a work in progress even if we fall sometimes here or there .But I know God is still working on myself and knows my heart and intention. And that's why I still go back to this thread to remind myself of what I already have knowledge of and to guard myself every time before a set back comes in and not be easily carried away and be deceived. I think what we have going here is still useful and important those who will discover soon and to keep us level-headed but thanks for understanding.
 
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i saw people saying he didn't actually kissed his ear, he was whispering but his chin lifted his ear and then it felt down when he removed his head.

I don't know if he would dare to do actually that sxxual fanservice while jamal was "crying"
There is clearer focus

It's debatable. The way JM's ear popped back and that string of saliva that can be seen on the angle I posted says otherwise but ok. Fans will easily deny what's right in front of them anyway.
 

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It's debatable. The way JM's ear popped back and that string of saliva that can be seen on the angle I posted says otherwise but ok. Fans will easily deny what's right in front of them anyway.
i don't know either way it's gross, i mean they have underage fans coming at their concerts.
I don't even like sugar, but i respect him for ignoring their fanservice and not participating
(he ignored jamal's a lot of time)
 

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It's debatable. The way JM's ear popped back and that string of saliva that can be seen on the angle I posted says otherwise but ok. Fans will easily deny what's right in front of them anyway.

I agree either way this looks pretty nasty.

This guy is weird and all. And this is really fan service? Just thinking of the kids being exposed to that s***


And this is the fans reaction

 

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i don't know either way it's gross, i mean they have underage fans coming at their concerts.
I don't even like sugar, but i respect him for ignoring their fanservice and not participating
(he ignored jamal's a lot of time)

Honestly, I didn't notice him crying cos I was so focused and confused on what I was seeing lol. A simple hug I'm sure would've given the same comfort. But like what DeadlyLady posted, they're clearly affectionate and don't mind showing PDA (public displays of affection--for fonts who may not be familiar with that acronym).
 

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It's debatable. The way JM's ear popped back and that string of saliva that can be seen on the angle I posted says otherwise but ok. Fans will easily deny what's right in front of them anyway.
Disgusting as expected of the two gayest members, sometimes I wonder if all of them have sexual relations with one another. I never saw a string of saliva, at the least in the original, but cant deny the way the ear popped back which is clear in any quality. You never know with these people.
I for one thought the crying looked strange and misplaced, rather scripted and fanservicy, and the way they made sure to get it on camera on the big screen for all to see with them hugging and screaming the cliche we love you. Either way the ear thing was unnecessary and very sexual, bet they enjoy the attention it beings them on social media as they knew everyone would see and record. But to me it just further proof that the crying was fake, who would react this way if their friend/lover was crying?

 
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If i say something please don't assume it's because I love BTS , but that video of jimin and jungkook are actually an accurate representation of anyone who haves siblings they're very close to, nothing sexual ,it's obvious he didn't bite or lick his ear, he was simply whispering and you can't tell since the camera quality is bad i mean, but there can be some gay agenda pushed behind that who knows, also jungkook is the weirdest guy he would do much STOOPID things than this on stage so stop acting shook it's not cool
 

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If i say something please don't assume it's because I love BTS , but that video of jimin and jungkook are actually an accurate representation of anyone who haves siblings they're very close to, nothing sexual ,it's obvious he didn't bite or lick his ear, he was simply whispering and you can't tell since the camera quality is bad i mean, but there can be some gay agenda pushed behind that who knows, also jungkook is the weirdest guy he would do much STOOPID things than this on stage so stop acting shook it's not cool
My dear, I dont know what kind of relationship you have witnessed between siblings, but let me tell you that if your biological brother does something like this to you, it is not normal. Not in any way shape or form, it is incest. If two dudes do it, it is gay, no other explanation.
 

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Disgusting as expected of the two gayest members, sometimes I wonder if all of them have sexual relations with one another. I never saw a string of saliva, at the least in the original, but cant deny the way the ear popped back which is clear in any quality. You never know with these people.
I for one thought the crying looked strange and misplaced, rather scripted and fanservicy, and the way they made sure to get it on camera on the big screen for all to see with them hugging and screaming the cliche we love you. Either way the ear thing was unnecessary and very sexual, bet they enjoy the attention it beings them on social media as they knew everyone would see and record.

In this angle it feels like its staged/pre-planned.
After the ear thing you can see Jamal hiding his laugh with his hand at the end. This is too sexual thing to do to make as a joke.
 

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The maknae line does lay on the fan services pretty thick.
I see some people don't agree with what was seen in the video. Take it however you want. I'm just saying they clearly don't mind putting their mouths on each other as shown in others posted.

Disgusting as expected of the two gayest members, sometimes I wonder if all of them have sexual relations with one another.
I was going to say something inappropriate, but I will keep it PG and say that I've wondered the same. I think some of them might have at least touched/petted each other (actual sex? I don't think so, but you never know!). I don't want to post the clip as I don't have it, but if any of you may recall from a couple of years ago during what I think was a Vlive there were 3 of them together (J1n, JM, and JK) and JM brushed his hand against J1n's crotch while laughing hysterically. Now, who does that? That's like me brushing my hand up against one of my friend's breasts. It wasn't a mistake. It was unnecessary.


It's like do they play into the fan service so much to the point that it blurs the lines for them? What exactly have they been exposed to in these rituals and "rites of passages"? Because I am convinced someone--be it a male sponsor or some higher up figure--has done some things to JM. The way he attracts both men and women is very telling to me.
 
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