BTS discussion thread

[Susu.mochi]

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Look, I understand what you're trying to say here. I really do, because some of your opinions are right. And I really apreciate that you took your time to write your opinions here.
You are right when you say that women haven't been respected all this time and they were treated like trash.
But it's not actually because of religion( I am talking about Christianity now, because I am Orthodox Christian, and believe me, I love my faith, because I understand it), but because of the fact that people were not able to understand their own value, and the value of all people in this world and because of a wrong interpretation of the Bible. But, believe me, God never wanted people to be that stupid and make one another suffer. I am a woman and I love it, but it hurts my eyes to see men who are becoming more and more feminine when it comes to fashion and now even choreographes. I am not trying to be mean to those men, but it's just... Ughhh...
Like, look at this performance for example.

My eyes....
Comparing to this, bts are the most manly men alive.
When we are talking about men who are becoming too feminine, we don't say that being a woman is shameful or humiliating, we are just saying that because it's not normal. Men and women are different( biologically, emotionally) and when they are changing their natural roles, the world is turning upside down. And of course, men shouldn't be some wild animals with no emotions, because I discovered that they actually have emotions, and they have a soul and we shouldn't ignore them. But some feminists forget this and they hate men, like they are some perfect saints and men only are guilty of everything and it's not like this.
But yes, you are right, men have done a lot of bad things, but it doesn't mean that they have to be transformed into women with muscles, because they would lose themselves. The same is with women who are becoming more and more masculine. Normality isn't just an abstract concept, it is a reality.
Maybe some things discussed here are a bit exagerrated, but some things here are authentic and very very useful.

You know why men are higher than woman, its not because woman are not respected its because, God created men first, then he created eve. Eve was created from Adams rib, so man is in charge of woman. Eve was also the first one to sin, so ya. Men are hard working and are the head of the house. Where does it say in the Bible when a woman had control over her husband. The wife has to submit to her husband and love her husband, for he is the head of the house. Men are men there is not much of a problem with toxic masculinity, people in the Bible where strong and manly, and woman loved them. All men have feelings no matter how muscular or serious they are, they need love. So stop listening to this trash as world and read the Holy Bible

 

[Susu.mochi]

Just wanted to say bye to you guys all, I really hope that you guys realize that there is nothing new under the sun. God knows what bts are doing and he knows their future, so whe already exposed bts and found out some stuff about them to know for sure they are bad. So now we need to stop, and let God take control. There is no point in digging in the dirt, and digging deeper when your just gonna find Dirt!!! Let God take control, and lets do our part in praying and doing the Lords will. Even if we found out something else about them, its obviously not suprising, because we already know their satanic and trash like that. So you guys stop. Jesus has things in control not us. The things we try to control will only take control of us instead. So lets put it in God's hands and he will take care of it. We can be going to church and singing for Jesus and preaching the Word of God and praying for others, but we then realize we can't really do that because where spending too much time on Bts. When you think about it where actually making Bts our idols by spending all out time on them, when we should be using our time to do the Fathers will, in Jesus name. Please stop if you just let God take control you will see a difference. God bless you all in Jesus name amen.

 

[MizukiTanashi]

You know why men are higher than woman, its not because woman are not respected its because, God created men first, then he created eve. Eve was created from Adams rib, so man is in charge of woman. Eve was also the first one to sin, so ya. Men are hard working and are the head of the house. Where does it say in the Bible when a woman had control over her husband. The wife has to submit to her husband and love her husband, for he is the head of the house. Men are men there is not much of a problem with toxic masculinity, people in the Bible where strong and manly, and woman loved them. All men have feelings no matter how muscular or serious they are, they need love. So stop listening to this trash as world and read the Holy Bible

For what the hell God created women who are "worse" than men. People are some toys where one is better than the other? I'm men and I never would think like that, its just pure sexcism. I surely would not become a Christian after reading your posts, so just stop. Maybe God is evil, haha who know . After checking all pages of this thread i became atheist so xD I've been reading this forum since the beginning, and I'm still army haha, i think it started in "dna" era or something around, so it's great. Sometimes i just think about bad and good sides of these boys, there is no pure good or bad people, everything have coexistence like yin yang, of course that doesn’t mean actions don't have consequences, you must receive the right punishment for your actions and be responsible, for ex. Seungri, he did something bad, (no one is itself bad, rather your part/action is) and I will not support someone who did wrong and hurt others, he must receive a proper punishment but I'm not gonna say he is not human and can't change, don't fight fire with fire.
Also this thread is not about religion and sexuality, you guys going offtopic - _ -
Finally I'm posting! But this is my second (third? Idk) and last post there, so im leaving, too much toxicity for me, I will miss all of this nice and not so nice theories, i love conspiracy etc., but when i read this forum i always have headache xD
Thank
Also sorry for my english ~ xD
Free Will: "Blood collection is voluntary, who does not give blood will not get food"

 

[Dove28]

Sometimes I don't understand why artists/musicians/groups that participates WITHIN the emotional/psychological/mental/physical abusive SYSTEM of the music industry/corporation believe they can "self-reflect" they're way out to "freedom"--whatever they define it, perhaps in a form of dissociation, who knows. In matter of fact, reading the "Persona" lyrics, it looks like he was ruminating.

"...We are a proud species that is able to reflect upon ourselves. Self-reflection is the process through which we focus on our feelings, thoughts, and experiences in order to gain insight, to learn from our mistakes and develop a better self. If however self-reflection is triggered at the point of distress, there is a high likelihood of engagement with an unproductive self-focus whereas stimuli (internal, bodily symptoms and external, events) are appraised as strongly related to own person. Rumination appears to have a unique relationship with depression, but self-focus is also a major component in anxiety related problems..."

https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/counsellor-articles/when-self-reflection-is-counter-productive

Namjoon (the human, apart from his "persona" RM), no matter how psychologically analytical he THINK he is, he is still choosing to disregard what surrounds him externally (i.e. BigHit, CJ Entertainment) that is stimulating his depression and suicidal ideations. If he really wants to know who he is, then he should leave the entertainment business but money matters of course.

And what I quotes, I looked closely, "We are a PROUD species..." I'm not religious, in matter in fact with what is really all going on in this world, I wouldn't be surprise eventually giving my life to Jesus (I'm, agnostic) because of all the distrust humans project, all the lies, it's disgusting, but back to my point, humans are TOO PROUD to give themselves away to God for real answers, like Namjoon, who deemed himself as an atheist, and like Jung, they hate God and thinks they can SELF-reflect, or engage with these split personalities to understand who they are (I use to think I can do it too, when I was younger, but it's like going on circles), sometimes it's best to just rid of them, cause these split personalities are not of God, but fragments of abuse created by others, even self, the ego. Stop entertaining them. They are empty, useless. But I guess when you are an artists making money from abuse, it doesn't matter.

And...what is the freaking point for this whole album again? ARMY are spending HOURS decoding a person they don't really know.

 

[wow]

I wanna talk about something. Im not sure if its important tho.
There is an account on twitter that most of you know about. Its a bts theorist account
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A lot of members thought that this account might be used by an insider/insiders based on the strange informations they post.
The first owner was a girl who's name was Hana (i dont know if you remember an old post i made about her, back then she was still alive), the account stopped being used and after a while she made a personal account on twitter and tagged herself to let people know about it and thats when i followed her. Something about her username caught my attention, it was "Hana Jung" same last name with J-hope. After a while she changed it, there was no "Jung" in her whole account. I sent her a message asking her if she was family relatives with Hoseok and she replied with "I can't share that at the moment. I might in the future." which never happened because guess what... at the beggining of January 2019 she passed away and the other owner of the theorist account confirmed it.
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Hana said that she was struggling with a disease.
I dont know if this is true, we're on the internet, we cant be sure of anything.
But if she was honest , then what if she really was relatives with Jhope?What if her death was a sacrifice for the group? She also mentioned that the theorist account was given to her by someone else like she was forced to do it and never said who this person was.

Ps1. Im confused about this topic, as i've already said we are on the internet and there are a lot of fake people, fake news etc.

Ps2. I sent her my condolences, just in case.

You can see the conv here:
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well, hoseok and his family isnt the only one with the surname jung, and try to look in her profile and see if she looks like hoseok or his sister or not, from what i know, hope only has 1 older sis, but she can be his relative, so im not sure, but her death is suspicious but of course, we dont know if its true, if it is, may she rest in peace.

 

[deniiiiXD]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1110924244781854722

Damn what an asshole

 

[deniiiiXD]

Sometimes I don't understand why artists/musicians/groups that participates WITHIN the emotional/psychological/mental/physical abusive SYSTEM of the music industry/corporation believe they can "self-reflect" they're way out to "freedom"--whatever they define it, perhaps in a form of dissociation, who knows. In matter of fact, reading the "Persona" lyrics, it looks like he was ruminating.

"...We are a proud species that is able to reflect upon ourselves. Self-reflection is the process through which we focus on our feelings, thoughts, and experiences in order to gain insight, to learn from our mistakes and develop a better self. If however self-reflection is triggered at the point of distress, there is a high likelihood of engagement with an unproductive self-focus whereas stimuli (internal, bodily symptoms and external, events) are appraised as strongly related to own person. Rumination appears to have a unique relationship with depression, but self-focus is also a major component in anxiety related problems..."

https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/counsellor-articles/when-self-reflection-is-counter-productive

Namjoon (the human, apart from his "persona" RM), no matter how psychologically analytical he THINK he is, he is still choosing to disregard what surrounds him externally (i.e. BigHit, CJ Entertainment) that is stimulating his depression and suicidal ideations. If he really wants to know who he is, then he should leave the entertainment business but money matters of course.

And what I quotes, I looked closely, "We are a PROUD species..." I'm not religious, in matter in fact with what is really all going on in this world, I wouldn't be surprise eventually giving my life to Jesus (I'm, agnostic) because of all the distrust humans project, all the lies, it's disgusting, but back to my point, humans are TOO PROUD to give themselves away to God for real answers, like Namjoon, who deemed himself as an atheist, and like Jung, they hate God and thinks they can SELF-reflect, or engage with these split personalities to understand who they are (I use to think I can do it too, when I was younger, but it's like going on circles), sometimes it's best to just rid of them, cause these split personalities are not of God, but fragments of abuse created by others, even self, the ego. Stop entertaining them. They are empty, useless. But I guess when you are an artists making money from abuse, it doesn't matter.

And...what is the freaking point for this whole album again? ARMY are spending HOURS decoding a person they don't really know.

Very well said

 

[deniiiiXD]

I wanna talk about something. Im not sure if its important tho.
There is an account on twitter that most of you know about. Its a bts theorist account
View attachment 20383
A lot of members thought that this account might be used by an insider/insiders based on the strange informations they post.
The first owner was a girl who's name was Hana (i dont know if you remember an old post i made about her, back then she was still alive), the account stopped being used and after a while she made a personal account on twitter and tagged herself to let people know about it and thats when i followed her. Something about her username caught my attention, it was "Hana Jung" same last name with J-hope. After a while she changed it, there was no "Jung" in her whole account. I sent her a message asking her if she was family relatives with Hoseok and she replied with "I can't share that at the moment. I might in the future." which never happened because guess what... at the beggining of January 2019 she passed away and the other owner of the theorist account confirmed it.
View attachment 20385
Hana said that she was struggling with a disease.
I dont know if this is true, we're on the internet, we cant be sure of anything.
But if she was honest , then what if she really was relatives with Jhope?What if her death was a sacrifice for the group? She also mentioned that the theorist account was given to her by someone else like she was forced to do it and never said who this person was.

Ps1. Im confused about this topic, as i've already said we are on the internet and there are a lot of fake people, fake news etc.

Ps2. I sent her my condolences, just in case.

You can see the conv here:
View attachment 20384

I asked this account if bts will disband. They replyed me with a block after some months. They might be insiders; useless people payed to entertain bts fans and make sure they don't get bored

 

[with.hardship.comes.ease]

I took it upon myself to watch the stupid video (muted, of course) so no one else has to. I took a TON of screenshots, so trust me once you see these there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for you to watch the video. Part 1 of however many it takes to get through them all

 

[with.hardship.comes.ease]

Part 2 of however many it takes to get through them all

 

[with.hardship.comes.ease]

Part 3 of however many it takes to get through them all

 

[with.hardship.comes.ease]

Part 4 (LAST SET OF SCREENSHOTS)

 

[with.hardship.comes.ease]

These are, to me, the most significant screenshots that I think we need to take special note of (there are so many of him doing hand signs and one-eye, but these ones I think are especially significant).
if anyone knows the meaning behind the two patches on his jacket (they both say "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain -a reference to Wizard of Oz -programming most likely, but where does that emblem and flag come from?) or what the book is on the desk, please post it


Does he think he "pretends" to be evil? So he acknowledges the fact that the things he does are seen as evil? Is he really "pretending?" Why is he "pretending?"
classic Kabbalah

 

[with.hardship.comes.ease]

https://www.koreaboo.com/lists/bts-map-soul-persona-trailer-references/
Quote from the above article:
"Carl Jung labeled the parts of the unconscious mind as the anima/animus, shadow, self, and ego, which are layered behind the conscious mind’s persona. The shadow is a person’s inner 'dark side'."
The following picture is a screenshot I made but didn't think was significant until I read this article. Notice how his left hand is just flailing about, it looks like it's open and does not look like it's making a horns sign. Now, look at his shadow. Here you see his left hand making a horns sign.
Seeing as how this whole comeback revolves around Carl Jung, and they were particular enough with details to include a paint can with RM's birth year on it, it's extremely likely that this hand symbol was done purposely either by RM himself or by the editors. There is no possible way this was accidental. This shadow, this horns symbol, shows RM's "dark side" as being Satanic.
End of story.

 

[cadiz]

BTS interview with some US magazine:
pay attention to this pic: RM in the middle doing the shhhh sign and one eye

Next picture: Jhope does the horn sign with his hand

And in case that wasnt enough...... here BTS decide to cover each other's eyes because "aesthetic"

Thats about it....I think this is my last contribution to the thread. If I keep talking about BTS I keep repeating myself
Goodbye Friends:

 

[Truthteller]

BTS interview with some US magazine:
pay attention to this pic: RM in the middle doing the shhhh sign and one eye

Next picture: Jhope does the horn sign with his hand

And in case that wasnt enough...... here BTS decide to cover each other's eyes because "aesthetic"

Thats about it....I think this is my last contribution to the thread. If I keep talking about BTS I keep repeating myself
Goodbye Friends:

The one eyed gesture is too obvious and constantly repeated. The symbolism is very clear. They are showing their allegiance to their masters. LOL

 

[deniiiiXD]

That nigga falling out there is pretty funny.

And btw thank you @with.hardship.comes.ease for posting those ss bc I really was curious ab the MV even tho I just didn't want to click it. He does so so
So many horns signs like he is drunk with this cult.
Anyway those niggas now are just some Ariana Grande for me. Even their fandom isn't to pity anymore. People there deserve such kind of exposing for accepting such twisted messages and symbolism in their MVs.

 

[deniiiiXD]

@cadiz you are one of the greatest exposers here. Thank you for your contribution by now. Hopefully you ain't leaving for good
But if so I hope it's the best for you and you will get a chance to relax from seeing all that annoying s*it.
And if you wanna keep in touch DM me soon oke?

 

[deniiiiXD]

Wowow I feel so old so many people come and go. I am so happy I could and still can get to know so many great people here. Hope you all will do good. Wish ya the best oh my heart it hurts a little idk why

 

[deniiiiXD]

"Genuineness" lmao lmao lmao lmao

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1111353477152866306