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Hello everyone, I stumbled across this forum after starting to research due to yesterday's performance at MAMA, that really broke my heart. I've always brushed off the heavy symbolism as just part of a concept, of an artistic message, but after their fake love stage I just can't look passed it anymore. The moment their faces showed up in the VCR it gave me a very eerie feeling. But I looked passed that, I said to myself it wasn't much. Then came the masks, than the hoodies, the ritualistic pattern and whatnot but I still wasn't convinced. I mean, it could all just be symbolism to depict a personal vision that's not necessarily evil. I could see that being the case in earlier stages and MVS, like BST and Fire, especially since they have the whole theories thing going on. BUT. Why on Earth would they need a representation of Behemoth's head and a crucified figure for their story line? Yeah, sure, you can always link them somehow but it's a stretch. I was so shocked and creeped out that I started crying when the scene with the head and the hands came in full view. And now I've come across this thread and I am spooked out of my mind. I always believed in occultism to some extent and thought there might be some truth behind some Illuminati theories but it's never been so close to home before, in something I am so emotionally invested. I at least think the boys are not aware of what they are getting themselves into, only maybe as mentioned here, RM and Suga and only up to a limited point. But maybe that's just wishful thinking. I swear, I feel like my world's been turned upside down.
 





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Hello everyone, I stumbled across this forum after starting to research due to yesterday's performance at MAMA, that really broke my heart. I've always brushed off the heavy symbolism as just part of a concept, of an artistic message, but after their fake love stage I just can't look passed it anymore. The moment their faces showed up in the VCR it gave me a very eerie feeling. But I looked passed that, I said to myself it wasn't much. Then came the masks, than the hoodies, the ritualistic pattern and whatnot but I still wasn't convinced. I mean, it could all just be symbolism to depict a personal vision that's not necessarily evil. I could see that being the case in earlier stages and MVS, like BST and Fire, especially since they have the whole theories thing going on. BUT. Why on Earth would they need a representation of Behemoth's head and a crucified figure for their story line? Yeah, sure, you can always link them somehow but it's a stretch. I was so shocked and creeped out that I started crying when the scene with the head and the hands came in full view. And now I've come across this thread and I am spooked out of my mind. I always believed in occultism to some extent and thought there might be some truth behind some Illuminati theories but it's never been so close to home before, in something I am so emotionally invested. I at least think the boys are not aware of what they are getting themselves into, only maybe as mentioned here, RM and Suga and only up to a limited point. But maybe that's just wishful thinking. I swear, I feel like my world's been turned upside down.
Hii. Welcome hereee..
It's alright ... Don't be sad...
Ly era is over..
Maybe the darkness might have ended.. Who knows ...
 





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So the MV is out..
I see it is very similar to lotto and monster MVs of EXO.. like some scenes..
Anyways.. i found some direct symbolism.. and here it is..

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Suho (the leader) is always seen holding a cube..
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Can someone tell me what his device is?
Looks like an antique camera to me..
Hi guys! Just to let you know (if you don't) there is a general kpop illuminati thread in the same forum (in the entertainment industry category) if you want to debate a little more and with details about Exo. Since we're in the Bts thread, it would be better if we keep talking about them and try not to lose focus :) Please do not think I want you guys out out of the thread, your post are really interesting !
 





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This is prediction
He said one harsh accident will happen soon
Hope the accident thing doesn't happen.. It can create a whole lot of depression among millions of fans.. I just wnat them to retire..

those masks reminded of masks used on mexican day of the dead...had to search for a while to find a picture that is less freaky
https://abc-machine-embroidery.com/Mexican-Day-of-the-Dead-Mask-P8256.aspx
So that's a link to... DEATH... One of the masks might lead to the end.. Other joker ones lead to the amusement park . There are still some left... He had a total of 8 masks...

And the writing inside the keyhole Said

I AM HERE..

But by looking at the pic it can be made out as HER..
 





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ive been reading back through the thread and i think that if you combine it with the john lennon theory and the psychic prediction that he would be harmed by a ‘fan’ v’s mask could be concerning. a red spot on the temple, red mist (blood?) bursting from the back of his head.

taehyung’s third eye is still very open and strong, though. i hope he can maintain it
They really are being obvious with the sacrifice ritual theme... I hope everyone here is detached from having feelings towards the group because something very sinister is going to happen and they're not even hiding anymore.
 





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You're right, they were acting a sacrifice ritual. It's really disgusting:mad:
riiiigghttt? that performance is them sacrificing him, im convinced he is going to get sacrificed, there are many hints, i dont really trust predictions though but bighit is hinting him a lot, i guess he'll be with his grannies, oof no tea no shade.
 





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Hello everyone, I stumbled across this forum after starting to research due to yesterday's performance at MAMA, that really broke my heart. I've always brushed off the heavy symbolism as just part of a concept, of an artistic message, but after their fake love stage I just can't look passed it anymore. The moment their faces showed up in the VCR it gave me a very eerie feeling. But I looked passed that, I said to myself it wasn't much. Then came the masks, than the hoodies, the ritualistic pattern and whatnot but I still wasn't convinced. I mean, it could all just be symbolism to depict a personal vision that's not necessarily evil. I could see that being the case in earlier stages and MVS, like BST and Fire, especially since they have the whole theories thing going on. BUT. Why on Earth would they need a representation of Behemoth's head and a crucified figure for their story line? Yeah, sure, you can always link them somehow but it's a stretch. I was so shocked and creeped out that I started crying when the scene with the head and the hands came in full view. And now I've come across this thread and I am spooked out of my mind. I always believed in occultism to some extent and thought there might be some truth behind some Illuminati theories but it's never been so close to home before, in something I am so emotionally invested. I at least think the boys are not aware of what they are getting themselves into, only maybe as mentioned here, RM and Suga and only up to a limited point. But maybe that's just wishful thinking. I swear, I feel like my world's been turned upside down.
Welcome! I think a lot here can relate to how you are feeling now. This feeling of deception and betray (even we know, they aren't totally responsible for fans addiction in my opinion). But you can overcome all of that with dedication and time, no worries about that! Just try to distance yourself from them for a while and everything will be alright. I personally felt free when I left the fandom. Hope you'll feel the same.
 





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Hello everyone, I stumbled across this forum after starting to research due to yesterday's performance at MAMA, that really broke my heart. I've always brushed off the heavy symbolism as just part of a concept, of an artistic message, but after their fake love stage I just can't look passed it anymore. The moment their faces showed up in the VCR it gave me a very eerie feeling. But I looked passed that, I said to myself it wasn't much. Then came the masks, than the hoodies, the ritualistic pattern and whatnot but I still wasn't convinced. I mean, it could all just be symbolism to depict a personal vision that's not necessarily evil. I could see that being the case in earlier stages and MVS, like BST and Fire, especially since they have the whole theories thing going on. BUT. Why on Earth would they need a representation of Behemoth's head and a crucified figure for their story line? Yeah, sure, you can always link them somehow but it's a stretch. I was so shocked and creeped out that I started crying when the scene with the head and the hands came in full view. And now I've come across this thread and I am spooked out of my mind. I always believed in occultism to some extent and thought there might be some truth behind some Illuminati theories but it's never been so close to home before, in something I am so emotionally invested. I at least think the boys are not aware of what they are getting themselves into, only maybe as mentioned here, RM and Suga and only up to a limited point. But maybe that's just wishful thinking. I swear, I feel like my world's been turned upside down.
Hi welcome don’t be sad sad
You should be glad you woke up and are no longer blinded Trust me I was an obsessed ARMY in th sense that I really loved the boys and spend a lot of time related to them but ive come to the point where I don’t even know most of their songs on their latest album
If I can get through it I’m sure you can too I hope you can with the help of this thread finally lose your association with them, however please don’t rush and take small but gradual steps if you think stop so suddenly it will be harder to maintain
 





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Their theorical concept is going way too far, I don't even know wtf is going on with them. No wonder how many fan waste hours to decript their theories then become obsessed with them
I feel the same. Also I don’t believe they planned everything since the beginning. They had a plot and they build off of it. And it works just great. Gotta give them credit, it was a genius marketing idea. They’re known for the storyline and it sets them apart from other artist. Makes fans lose hours watching the mv again and again for new clues. But at this point I feel like they’re just milking it for attention.
 





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Hello everyone, I stumbled across this forum after starting to research due to yesterday's performance at MAMA, that really broke my heart. I've always brushed off the heavy symbolism as just part of a concept, of an artistic message, but after their fake love stage I just can't look passed it anymore. The moment their faces showed up in the VCR it gave me a very eerie feeling. But I looked passed that, I said to myself it wasn't much. Then came the masks, than the hoodies, the ritualistic pattern and whatnot but I still wasn't convinced. I mean, it could all just be symbolism to depict a personal vision that's not necessarily evil. I could see that being the case in earlier stages and MVS, like BST and Fire, especially since they have the whole theories thing going on. BUT. Why on Earth would they need a representation of Behemoth's head and a crucified figure for their story line? Yeah, sure, you can always link them somehow but it's a stretch. I was so shocked and creeped out that I started crying when the scene with the head and the hands came in full view. And now I've come across this thread and I am spooked out of my mind. I always believed in occultism to some extent and thought there might be some truth behind some Illuminati theories but it's never been so close to home before, in something I am so emotionally invested. I at least think the boys are not aware of what they are getting themselves into, only maybe as mentioned here, RM and Suga and only up to a limited point. But maybe that's just wishful thinking. I swear, I feel like my world's been turned upside down.
Hello! ^_^ . It’s okay to feel strange about it, probably most of us were feeling the same. Like the Bible says, the truth sets us free, and that’s what we’re all searching for I think. This thread helped me a lot and I think it could help you too, just take things with a grain of salt and you’ll slowly get detached in time.
 





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Hello! ^_^ . It’s okay to feel strange about it, probably most of us were feeling the same. Like the Bible says, the truth sets us free, and that’s what we’re all searching for I think. This thread helped me a lot and I think it could help you too, just take things with a grain of salt and you’ll slowly get detached in time.
Yes, I'll try to detach myself as much as possible, thank you for the reply!
 





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Hi welcome don’t be sad sad
You should be glad you woke up and are no longer blinded Trust me I was an obsessed ARMY in th sense that I really loved the boys and spend a lot of time related to them but ive come to the point where I don’t even know most of their songs on their latest album
If I can get through it I’m sure you can too I hope you can with the help of this thread finally lose your association with them, however please don’t rush and take small but gradual steps if you think stop so suddenly it will be harder to maintain
I don't think I will let them go completely, but I will be very careful with what I listen to and watch and probably not promote them, thank you for the reply <3
 





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Welcome! I think a lot here can relate to how you are feeling now. This feeling of deception and betray (even we know, they aren't totally responsible for fans addiction in my opinion). But you can overcome all of that with dedication and time, no worries about that! Just try to distance yourself from them for a while and everything will be alright. I personally felt free when I left the fandom. Hope you'll feel the same.
Thank you! I probably won't give up on them completely, I will just detach myself and not follow them blindly.
 





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Hii. Welcome hereee..
It's alright ... Don't be sad...
Ly era is over..
Maybe the darkness might have ended.. Who knows ...
Thank you, I sure hope their next concept will be lighter, though that doesn't necessarily mean they are reformed... It could actually be worse, since the less obvious they are the less likely it is for people to catch on, I only realized it myself because their FL stage was blatantly straightforward...
 





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Thank you! I probably won't give up on them completely, I will just detach myself and not follow them blindly.
Hi welcome here!~ I completely understand how you feel, it also was a shock to me understanding what's going on in the music industry in general, and when you're also ready, it helps reading the different articles on VC's website to understand the different symbolism that's put out there, they're an interesting read and slowly you get to understand that we have to be skeptical and question everything we see in the media today unfortunately to guard and protect ourselves from being caught up and misguided. Personally, i think its sad to see all these talented artists in the industry including the boys themselves having to deal with what's at stake in order to be successful or pursue their dreams as well as the questionable images and influences that's put out there by the artists we were/are fans of. Though I don't know ultimately if this was willfully chosen by them or forced upon them to be this way or the ways of the elite, but i think us as the audience and observers have to keep watch and be mindful of what we listen to and allow into our own interests and conscious minds if we want to protect ourselves from evil because most definitely we have an enemy out there that's after innocent souls but thank God we also know Who's more powerful and in control in the end.
 





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in the first picture....all the hands could be symbolism of mkultra victim's mind....it was mentioned earlier somewhere that the mindcontrolled one feels like being in a blank space...something like a box and several hands will come out at him/her as they change from one alter to another....something like that...
second picture...it is a ritualistic dance forming a hexagon around one member....hexagon is a symbol of saturn(so is a cube)..one of the occult's most important planets and tea(a capricorn?)is being there as a representative of saturn...it is saturn worship dance...it could even be symbolic of an eye or an obelisk:confused:
also,it could be a circled dot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circled_dot
and this
http://www.cuttingedge.org/free19.htm
....hope it helps
We already discussed about this here: https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/post-144883 the color red represents blood and V, Jonghyun and the Spectrum member are/were always linked to that color.
 





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