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""Girl stop educating us you got sins too.""
Seriously put down your burning torches, pitch forks and chants of 'burn witch, burn' for a moment because frankly you need some educating.
It's one thing to have your own opinions on what you perceive as evil or demonic, quite another to throw unfounded accusations at people. These ideas are in your head. You are the ones that are seeing evil everywhere, so much so that even when things are blatantly pointed out to you, you choose to ignore them. For example, stating they use spells, witchcraft, blood sacrifices etc but not being able to provide evidence just a simple 'I just know it therefore its fact', being so blinded by your religious fervour that you mistake the sign language for 'I Love You' with the horns, then tell me that I am being deceived? Perhaps the demons you are looking for are lurking closer to home and clouding your judgement.
This isn't about 'only caring for the boys', it's basic human morality and common scense. It's also not about sins, I couldn't care less about what your sins are, that is between you and your gods. This is about pushing your hypothetical constructs onto real people. Just because you see occult references everywhere doesn't make it true. Who are you to label people that you don't even know as evil? Who are you to tell young impressionable children that what you say is truth with zero tangible evidence to back it up? We are not living in draconian times. There are actual laws that exist outside of religion, laws that state that you can't harrass or slander people and I am pretty sure that making false accusations is a big no no in both religious and civil circles.
I do agree on a point that another poster has mentioned. Don't believe anything from someone that says they are an insider. A real insider would NEVER say that, in fact they would flatly deny it if questioned. Instead look for subtle hints and pieces of information that differ from everyone else's.
Another point worth mentioning, don't place so much clout on a certain mainstream movie. Do you really think that an elite organisation would allow their secrets to be so blatantly broadcast to the public? Being so busy focusing on the tip of that pyramid, you were distracted from noticing the much larger pyramid that encased it.
Making judgements on people based on your agenda is also something that should be addressed. Just because it doesn't fit into your expectation doesn't make it irrelevant to that person. You don't get to say what is or isn't important in someone's life. Branding someones life experience as shallow is tantamount to Marie-Antoinette saying 'Let them eat cake' when told that her subjects were so poor that they had no bread.
To summarise:
Have your opinions
Don't claim them as facts without hard evidence (symbols in mv, dreams or feelings are not hard evidence)
Don't push your agenda onto others
Don't send inappropriate msgs to the boys on vlive/ fancafe/twt or any other platform
Don't take things out of context, a head nod, a smirk, a wink, etc are not cues directed at you, they are not seeking you out.
Don't go around claiming that people are EVIL or possessed - it detracts from your credibility
Don't make any accusations that you cannot back up
Don't confuse corruption with occultism
Don't make unfounded claims about people's families (specifically moonchild references...)
Not everything is demons, sometimes the simplest explanations are right
Remember actual laws exist, you are not exempt from them.
Seriously put down your burning torches, pitch forks and chants of 'burn witch, burn' for a moment because frankly you need some educating.
It's one thing to have your own opinions on what you perceive as evil or demonic, quite another to throw unfounded accusations at people. These ideas are in your head. You are the ones that are seeing evil everywhere, so much so that even when things are blatantly pointed out to you, you choose to ignore them. For example, stating they use spells, witchcraft, blood sacrifices etc but not being able to provide evidence just a simple 'I just know it therefore its fact', being so blinded by your religious fervour that you mistake the sign language for 'I Love You' with the horns, then tell me that I am being deceived? Perhaps the demons you are looking for are lurking closer to home and clouding your judgement.
This isn't about 'only caring for the boys', it's basic human morality and common scense. It's also not about sins, I couldn't care less about what your sins are, that is between you and your gods. This is about pushing your hypothetical constructs onto real people. Just because you see occult references everywhere doesn't make it true. Who are you to label people that you don't even know as evil? Who are you to tell young impressionable children that what you say is truth with zero tangible evidence to back it up? We are not living in draconian times. There are actual laws that exist outside of religion, laws that state that you can't harrass or slander people and I am pretty sure that making false accusations is a big no no in both religious and civil circles.
I do agree on a point that another poster has mentioned. Don't believe anything from someone that says they are an insider. A real insider would NEVER say that, in fact they would flatly deny it if questioned. Instead look for subtle hints and pieces of information that differ from everyone else's.
Another point worth mentioning, don't place so much clout on a certain mainstream movie. Do you really think that an elite organisation would allow their secrets to be so blatantly broadcast to the public? Being so busy focusing on the tip of that pyramid, you were distracted from noticing the much larger pyramid that encased it.
Making judgements on people based on your agenda is also something that should be addressed. Just because it doesn't fit into your expectation doesn't make it irrelevant to that person. You don't get to say what is or isn't important in someone's life. Branding someones life experience as shallow is tantamount to Marie-Antoinette saying 'Let them eat cake' when told that her subjects were so poor that they had no bread.
To summarise:
Have your opinions
Don't claim them as facts without hard evidence (symbols in mv, dreams or feelings are not hard evidence)
Don't push your agenda onto others
Don't send inappropriate msgs to the boys on vlive/ fancafe/twt or any other platform
Don't take things out of context, a head nod, a smirk, a wink, etc are not cues directed at you, they are not seeking you out.
Don't go around claiming that people are EVIL or possessed - it detracts from your credibility
Don't make any accusations that you cannot back up
Don't confuse corruption with occultism
Don't make unfounded claims about people's families (specifically moonchild references...)
Not everything is demons, sometimes the simplest explanations are right
Remember actual laws exist, you are not exempt from them.
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Ok guys i have been looking at the discussion and of course i disagree with a lot of things being said but i keep thinking "it's not right to talk this way..." "what if they are only just corrupted ?" "What if life Korea is so hard that it was their only way out to live? "
I know a lot of songs have subliminals in them so of course people can be influenced (sadness,anger,etc...) but i won't develop on the subject
I came here to tell you i'm actually thinking of doing no more theories or stating my opinion (bc i'm honestly tired of people ) and even of leaving the thread permanently (too much trolls honestly and i can't anymore )
I'll be watching the boys from a distance and if you wanna talk abt anything we can in DMs (don't feel shy to do so )
I kinda agree on the fact that stuff like blood sacrifices and stuff like that is defamation and it's kinda bad to say those things for your own safety and i worry that if it's not true it can make people look bad bc y'all are very nice and kind (people like mj were one tho )(also yes freemasonry is much more spread than we think just saying )
I have no problem with reputation (unlike famous people ) but i don't wanna end up in jail and stuff like that for defamation because my main goal is not to hurt the boys it's more about learning what could go on behind the scenes and i don't want people to loose their life path because of this
It saddens me sometimes to even "agree" on some points with trolls
Everyone here is not wrong and everyone here is not right including trolls or people with different opinions (obssessive army's are the only people who i would exclude from being right bc it's unhealthy first of all to obssess over someone who doesn't know you and attack other people )
I'll be lurking every once in a while to see how is everyone doing (one like will be my sign to y'all ) but i'm sorry i give up....
It was nice knowing everyone and we had great moments together and it was nice sharing different opinions and a few jokes
I'll be in the Dm's or on fb and insta because i want to keep in contact with some of you guys :3
Thank you to the other lurkers for reading or starting to comment here i wish you guys good luck
Goodbye thread
Love you guys ~
I know a lot of songs have subliminals in them so of course people can be influenced (sadness,anger,etc...) but i won't develop on the subject
I came here to tell you i'm actually thinking of doing no more theories or stating my opinion (bc i'm honestly tired of people ) and even of leaving the thread permanently (too much trolls honestly and i can't anymore )
I'll be watching the boys from a distance and if you wanna talk abt anything we can in DMs (don't feel shy to do so )
I kinda agree on the fact that stuff like blood sacrifices and stuff like that is defamation and it's kinda bad to say those things for your own safety and i worry that if it's not true it can make people look bad bc y'all are very nice and kind (people like mj were one tho )(also yes freemasonry is much more spread than we think just saying )
I have no problem with reputation (unlike famous people ) but i don't wanna end up in jail and stuff like that for defamation because my main goal is not to hurt the boys it's more about learning what could go on behind the scenes and i don't want people to loose their life path because of this
It saddens me sometimes to even "agree" on some points with trolls
Everyone here is not wrong and everyone here is not right including trolls or people with different opinions (obssessive army's are the only people who i would exclude from being right bc it's unhealthy first of all to obssess over someone who doesn't know you and attack other people )
I'll be lurking every once in a while to see how is everyone doing (one like will be my sign to y'all ) but i'm sorry i give up....
It was nice knowing everyone and we had great moments together and it was nice sharing different opinions and a few jokes
I'll be in the Dm's or on fb and insta because i want to keep in contact with some of you guys :3
Thank you to the other lurkers for reading or starting to comment here i wish you guys good luck
Goodbye thread
Love you guys ~
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Lol ignore that user. They caused problems in the other thread months ago because they were annoyed about BTS being the primary topic so that's why this one now exists. Now they're coming in here to do the same thing haha
I just read the post you quoted and according to them I used to change my picture multiple times a day, which isn't true, when I had had the same picture for months. Pretty creepy they're that invested in random strangers to the point they're monitering peoples profiles and their acitivity on this forum though.
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This thread was created beause talking about BTS was fobidden in the kpop thread but now we are having the exact same problem.
this is a place to discuss the group and the symbology on their videos. it's impossible to do this in other places because kpop fans don't allow it, and a lot of users like it here because they find people who think like them and share their ideas
I believe this thread is more about the small community we have and about the familiarity that we feel for each other than about the kpop group itself (at least for me this is the case)
It's been long since the last time I enjoyed their music and the only thing I do is following some fan accounts on twitter to update this thread when I find something interesting but I agree that giving them too much attention is not good and actually follows their agenda
I made this thread because I like to discuss about the occult themes but I'm really tired of giving explanations and dealing with defensive fans who think I want to destroy their "precious boys", I swear since this thread was created they have been harrasing me via PM and insulting me constantly and I really don't have the patience to deal with the drama anymore
to all the old users: I like you a lot and I wish you all the best. It doesn't matter if the theories explained in this thread are true or not, keep in mind that you don't know these 7 men in real life. You shouldn't believe they are the devil but you shouldn't believe they are perfect because they are not better than you, they are not gods, they are human with flaws and you should remember that worshipping celebrities is never the answer.
Take care
this is a place to discuss the group and the symbology on their videos. it's impossible to do this in other places because kpop fans don't allow it, and a lot of users like it here because they find people who think like them and share their ideas
I believe this thread is more about the small community we have and about the familiarity that we feel for each other than about the kpop group itself (at least for me this is the case)
It's been long since the last time I enjoyed their music and the only thing I do is following some fan accounts on twitter to update this thread when I find something interesting but I agree that giving them too much attention is not good and actually follows their agenda
I made this thread because I like to discuss about the occult themes but I'm really tired of giving explanations and dealing with defensive fans who think I want to destroy their "precious boys", I swear since this thread was created they have been harrasing me via PM and insulting me constantly and I really don't have the patience to deal with the drama anymore
to all the old users: I like you a lot and I wish you all the best. It doesn't matter if the theories explained in this thread are true or not, keep in mind that you don't know these 7 men in real life. You shouldn't believe they are the devil but you shouldn't believe they are perfect because they are not better than you, they are not gods, they are human with flaws and you should remember that worshipping celebrities is never the answer.
Take care
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Great analysis ..Idol mv with Nicki Minaj exposed
https://gyazo.com/0f8443b6f5bd7754ae0ac78f2f6bf574
As you all know Bigsh*t entertainment dropped a new video. This time with no other than Nicki Minaj!
After watching the MV I noticed a couple of things that I want to share with you all.
Marilyn Monroe
The first thing I noticed about Nicki Minaj is that she tried to look like Marilyn Monroe. This isn't a coincidence, since Marilyn Monroe was the first Betta kitten (MK Ulta mind vicitim). There are tons of other artists that tried to look like Marilyn in the past in video clips. It's almost like a ritual every artist has to undergo before they are acknowledge by the elite. Below you can see Cardi B and Miley Cyrus pulling the Marilyn look.
https://gyazo.com/8b608d2914d21a1d5227d703d8376830
https://gyazo.com/41ea600488f489bc86e7bd80a43732c9
Pegasus
Did you notice the white horse statue at the back? This is also a symbol that we see frequently in music video's. It has a deeper meaning and the people in the music industry love using it in their MV. Also, if you look closely you'll see the that the white horse is covered in monarch butterflies. We all know by now what that means. If someone knows the deeper meaning of white horses, please share!
https://gyazo.com/c888dedae90b733be77476cc1893b79c
Weird furniture
https://gyazo.com/63badfd44369c47202c19cd616e7f2f0
So in this scene we see some fancy furniture. The table is the one that catched my eye the most. The table is shaped as a masonic temple and it's covered with horse heads. It's also funny how they decided to put 6 horse hats on the table. As if they try to say something. If you look at the 2 chairs next to it you'll notice that they're white & black. This is also a symbol we see frequently and it means "duality". If you look at the chair at the top with the "zebra" print you see that it's shaped as an eye. Is this a coincidence?
Modesty?
https://gyazo.com/1de7e00ea115fe46132b3833a5a3a1cb
At last I found it funny how they dressed Nicki up all modestly. I haven't seen her this clothed in FOREVER! Ofcourse she needed to put some clothes on, since the MV will be broadcasted in Korea.
Disappointed
I'm so disappointed by this MV. I thought Nicki would at least get more scenes, but maybe it's better. She is difinately not an asset for BT$.
I wonder what you guys think of her appearance in the MV! ^^
Loved it..
The eye in the chair.. I didn't notice that at first...
And her shoes.. One red and other blue.. Which also symbolise duality in mvs..
The lights used in concerts are mostly red and blue..
And Marilyn thing.. You're right.. The beta kittens pay homage to her.. It's a ritual yes..
The horse heads are in yellow and red and that makes orange after mixing them up and we have read how orange is important in occult..
And unicorn heads.. We came to know a while back aren't a good sign either..
I have no problem with THEORIES and I never asked you to stop talking about religion but you cannot pull the theory card once you move from discussing things in a forum to actually questioning Namjoon on Vlive about whether Bang PD is a pedo and then have other people encourage her and tell her she should've asked in hangul to ensure that he read it...
You've moved way past the theory defence once that happened. This is just one incident that I have read on here, I sincerely hope, though doubt, that there aren't any more.
Calling me a troll isn't going to change those facts
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Sure sis.. Dm us anytime.. Some of us are already in dms..
See you around soon
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Ooh new information for me..
Thanks for sharing..
So yes that horse head behind her can be represented at the sun or Ra..
And we do remember that one person who was frm that secret society .. Who said they do worship Ra....
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You can dm me too if you want
(k bye now )
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That wasn't her actually it was someone else who did that....
So don't attack people without knowing beforehand
We (or at least i) told her she was wrong to ask something like that (not mochi flavour ) and i told her she should have asked something else or even get a message (like hang in there and stuff like that bc they already look exhausted ) to nj in hangul
You don't even read the stuff being said
This will be my only time replying back to you because i am now leaving from this thread
Have a nice day
Apparently I don't read what is said.... mmmhmmm
I wasn't attacking her specifically. I am talking about the fact that as a forum you can't claim theories once it leaves the page and spills into actual real peoples, personal lives..
I apologise if she took it as me accusing her of the incident... The YOU was meant as a general forum-you
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Quoting half of what i said lol you don't even know the full conversation
I asked her to ask just normal questions
I was joking hence the XD
But if you taking everything as serious as this pfff there is no way to talk with you (do you think i'm really this stupid to ask someone seriously to ask this type of questions to an artist for real wow just wow )
Btw i don't know what do you mean by claiming the theories once it leaves the page ??? (I never seen it elsewhere than here tbh )
Personally i was just here to talk abt anything and unlike fans i've never intruded into those boys personal lives bc i actually don't real care like they can do whatever they want lol(if you really read everything you would have also known i wasn't an actual fan like most people i just appreciated their dancing and singing )
If you are accusing the forum in general then go complain to the owner of this website and not only a small thread like idk????
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could it mean something depending on how long it is?
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