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Astral projection is harmless if you know how to properly protect yourself while doing it
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Singularity theory Part 2
Smeraldo Flower
When you Google the word 'Smeraldo,' you learn that it's the Italian word for emerald. But K-ARMYs, thanks to Naver, have figured out that the Smeraldo is a very recently discovered type of 'flower', but does not really exist in reality. It's said that Smeraldo flowers are made simply by spray painting white flowers blue. Just as every flower has it's own percieved meaning, the meaning of this 'flower' is "the truth I couldn't tell." It was discovered on June 12, 2013, which every ARMY can easily recognize as BTS' debut date.
William Ashbless' character is known for having a profound knowledge of playing cards and for eveb having designed a card that was influenced by the Smeraldo flowers he discovered.
Playing cards were used a lot in the MV for BTS' song Run, but instead of using flowers, they had images of butterflies on them. We see Seokjin using playing cards to build a house of them, and there is a song in the same album called "House of Cards." In the Run MV, we also see a vase that is filled with what looks to be Smeraldo flowers in the background.
Also, if all versions of the HYYH albums are aligned properly, you will get an image of a flower on their bindings. The flower looks very similar to the Smeraldo flowers Jin is holding in his tweet.
I do have a theory, however, concerning this Smeraldo flower. You should remember that Smeraldo flowers are said to be fake; just white flowers spray painted blue. In the music video for I Need U, we see Jin holding a white flower, and that same white flower grows blooms on his heart.
meaning of white flowers:
Why You Don’t Bring White Flowers to a Wedding in Asian Cultures
In the West, wedding halls are bedecked with bursts of white roses and similar flowers. However, bringing white flowers to a Chinese or Taiwanese wedding could get you taken off the guest list for future occasions. Any white blossom is only appropriate for funerals in Asian cultures because the color is associated with death. It’s unlucky to give someone white flowers for other occasions, so bringing the wrong bouquet could ruin the whole mood of the event. Make sure you bring white gifts for a funeral and red blossoms for a wedding.
I'm sure that the Smeraldo flowers will represent Jin in the approaching comeback. They were called "Seokjin flowers".
Maybe the white flowers and the Smeraldo will represent the duality of Abraxas, which also represents Seokjin and Taehyung.
Also interesting:
Hoseoks "Daydream" and Tae's "Singularity"
Do y'all remember this possible reference to "Into the Magic Shop"? Given that one of the songs may be called fake love, they may be trying to understand what REAL love is= "changing our lives by changing brains and our hearts"
Smeraldo Flower
When you Google the word 'Smeraldo,' you learn that it's the Italian word for emerald. But K-ARMYs, thanks to Naver, have figured out that the Smeraldo is a very recently discovered type of 'flower', but does not really exist in reality. It's said that Smeraldo flowers are made simply by spray painting white flowers blue. Just as every flower has it's own percieved meaning, the meaning of this 'flower' is "the truth I couldn't tell." It was discovered on June 12, 2013, which every ARMY can easily recognize as BTS' debut date.
William Ashbless' character is known for having a profound knowledge of playing cards and for eveb having designed a card that was influenced by the Smeraldo flowers he discovered.
Playing cards were used a lot in the MV for BTS' song Run, but instead of using flowers, they had images of butterflies on them. We see Seokjin using playing cards to build a house of them, and there is a song in the same album called "House of Cards." In the Run MV, we also see a vase that is filled with what looks to be Smeraldo flowers in the background.
Also, if all versions of the HYYH albums are aligned properly, you will get an image of a flower on their bindings. The flower looks very similar to the Smeraldo flowers Jin is holding in his tweet.
I do have a theory, however, concerning this Smeraldo flower. You should remember that Smeraldo flowers are said to be fake; just white flowers spray painted blue. In the music video for I Need U, we see Jin holding a white flower, and that same white flower grows blooms on his heart.
meaning of white flowers:
- Purity, in the sense of being free from sin since this color was associated with the Virgin Mary and similar religious figures
- Cleanliness and sterility, which can be positive or negative depending on the situation
Why You Don’t Bring White Flowers to a Wedding in Asian Cultures
In the West, wedding halls are bedecked with bursts of white roses and similar flowers. However, bringing white flowers to a Chinese or Taiwanese wedding could get you taken off the guest list for future occasions. Any white blossom is only appropriate for funerals in Asian cultures because the color is associated with death. It’s unlucky to give someone white flowers for other occasions, so bringing the wrong bouquet could ruin the whole mood of the event. Make sure you bring white gifts for a funeral and red blossoms for a wedding.
I'm sure that the Smeraldo flowers will represent Jin in the approaching comeback. They were called "Seokjin flowers".
Maybe the white flowers and the Smeraldo will represent the duality of Abraxas, which also represents Seokjin and Taehyung.
Also interesting:
Hoseoks "Daydream" and Tae's "Singularity"
Do y'all remember this possible reference to "Into the Magic Shop"? Given that one of the songs may be called fake love, they may be trying to understand what REAL love is= "changing our lives by changing brains and our hearts"
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The symbolism of flowers and water & Taehyung in the music videos.
Let’s begin with the Japanese version of Run MV. The word “die” is scratched and instead, “live” is written, which means that Taehyung has the will to continue living, to keep going despite everything, that has happened to him. We can also see “Save me from myself” at the bottom and in the video Taehyung is struggling in the water, he is seeking help, he is fighting with himself and in the end, he somehow finds peace and lies down. I can also refer that part to the lyrics of Singularity - “I dumped myself into the lake” and the lyrics also reveal that he ponders and wonders if back then he had made the right choice if all the pain was worth it.
In the Japanese version of the, I need U MV, Taehyung is surrounded by flowers. He looks sad and trapped as if he can not move from there, it’s like he is stuck. But at the end of the MV, he has escaped from his little prison, but still looks thoughtful and doubtful. Flowers are often the symbol of funerals, of mourning and represent the loss of someone/something. However, I also associate them with rebirth, with new beginnings.
Let’s not forget that in the Euphoria MV, after the changes Jin made, the blood on Taehyung’s hands was replaced by flowers. The flowers, which are always around Jin and the ones that appeared in the hands in Euphoria are white lilies, which are the symbol of pureness and innocence, so that means Jin wanted to go back to those days when Taehyung was innocent when he hadn’t taken away a life.
In the Prologue, the first thing which Taehyung did was wash his hands with water and in Singularity, he is once again in something like a small pond/lake and he is gently touching the water, almost as if he is afraid to get in contact with it, because water also represents rebirth and cleansing and Taehyung wants redemption, but he is scared that he doesn’t deserve to be forgiven for his sins.
Let’s begin with the Japanese version of Run MV. The word “die” is scratched and instead, “live” is written, which means that Taehyung has the will to continue living, to keep going despite everything, that has happened to him. We can also see “Save me from myself” at the bottom and in the video Taehyung is struggling in the water, he is seeking help, he is fighting with himself and in the end, he somehow finds peace and lies down. I can also refer that part to the lyrics of Singularity - “I dumped myself into the lake” and the lyrics also reveal that he ponders and wonders if back then he had made the right choice if all the pain was worth it.
In the Japanese version of the, I need U MV, Taehyung is surrounded by flowers. He looks sad and trapped as if he can not move from there, it’s like he is stuck. But at the end of the MV, he has escaped from his little prison, but still looks thoughtful and doubtful. Flowers are often the symbol of funerals, of mourning and represent the loss of someone/something. However, I also associate them with rebirth, with new beginnings.
Let’s not forget that in the Euphoria MV, after the changes Jin made, the blood on Taehyung’s hands was replaced by flowers. The flowers, which are always around Jin and the ones that appeared in the hands in Euphoria are white lilies, which are the symbol of pureness and innocence, so that means Jin wanted to go back to those days when Taehyung was innocent when he hadn’t taken away a life.
In the Prologue, the first thing which Taehyung did was wash his hands with water and in Singularity, he is once again in something like a small pond/lake and he is gently touching the water, almost as if he is afraid to get in contact with it, because water also represents rebirth and cleansing and Taehyung wants redemption, but he is scared that he doesn’t deserve to be forgiven for his sins.
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333 Is the angel number which jimin is mostly associated with while also the devils hour and since he is supposed to be a fallen angel or even the devil himself that fits.
In bt&t Jhope is shown shooting an arrow at Tae in both the Korean and Japanese version in J hope's daydream mv he wakes up V at the end in the singularity song it referenced a daydream plus his jacket from that exact mv was in this video, and lastly in the LY: Wonder video they were shown together Jhope replacing Tae's dead father further linking the two boys.
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Remember the last thing from JHOPE 's day dream is "wake up " and behind the scenes it's Tae who he was waking up
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What? I haven't heard this. Can you elaborate?
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I think it's about this
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not long ago a lot of fans were having the same dream about the comeback. They saw suga and he was saying "can you see me now?"
They thought it was something like a premonition
But I don't remember if he was wearing a mask or not that's why I asked
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I didn't find it eerie or dark. With themes, I can see how others think so. Everything everyone is saying makes sense. I just love Tae's voice.
Isn't it odd how they can be allowed to make songs about being controlled/silenced as if it is a cry for release yet the company let's them sing about it? That's what throws me off.
Isn't it odd how they can be allowed to make songs about being controlled/silenced as if it is a cry for release yet the company let's them sing about it? That's what throws me off.
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RM was the one who wrote the song
So if this song is a cry for help is RM interpretation of Tae's story
If I remember correctly he was the one who wrote the lyrics for "seredipity" too
So if this song is a cry for help is RM interpretation of Tae's story
If I remember correctly he was the one who wrote the lyrics for "seredipity" too
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Wow. And they made it seem as if they needed someone to play the part! Remember there was a woman they were going to use first as she can be seen dressed in the same clothing. Then they decided to use V instead of Suga.
BH is so calculative!
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Now that's creepy. That solidifies for me that they're making music that has undertones that can only speak to the subconscious. Showing up in dreams like that.
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People always praise BTS for writing their own lyrics but it seems like only two members are allowed to make lyrics, mostly RM.RM was the one who wrote the song
So if this song is a cry for help is RM interpretation of Tae's story
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Sounds like affirmations under the music yep
Those people probably repeated one of their songs
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Yeah, even if the rest of Bantan wrote lyrics, RM's name will still be there.
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I don’t know if anyone knows this back in 2015 hitman bang released his movie recommendations and he suggested Anohana : the flower we saw that day
(He basically says that film is extremely good for the youth and he suggests that ppl should watch it ect )
The plot of Anohana is
A group of six sixth-grade-age childhood friends drift apart after one of them, Meiko "Menma" Honma, dies in an accident. Years after the incident, the leader of the group, Jinta has withdrawn from society, does not attend high school, and lives as a recluse.
(Remember in run MV when namjoon was living in solitude )
One summer day, the ghost of an older-looking Menma appears beside him and asks to have a wish granted, reasoning that she cannot pass on into the afterlife until it is fulfilled. At first, he only tries to help her minimally because he thinks he is hallucinating. But since Menma does not remember what her wish is, Jinta gathers his estranged friends together once again, believing that they are the key to resolving this problem. All of the group joins him, though most of them do so reluctantly. However, things grow increasingly complicated when his friends accuse him of not being able to get over the death of Menma,
(Remember the fight yoongi and jk had bc he couldn’t accept Jin’s death?)
Jinta is the only one who can see Menma's ghost and his friends think he is seeing things. But as matters progress, it is realized that Jinta is not the only person in the group who is having trouble letting go of the past and later then Menma shows her presence to the group to prove that she is indeed real. It is revealed that all of the group members blame themselves for Menma's death and long-hidden feelings are rekindled. The group struggles as they grow from trying to help Menma move on and help each other move on as well.
Which is similar to the theory’s connected to HYYH story plot
Not to mention this
(Scene from the movie )
(I need you photo shoot )
( follow the leader scene )
(I need you photoshoot, with a follow the leader mentality )
Similarities are there...
Also Someone once took a pic of them watching it
I forget to mention the girl died from drowning, and who throughout is connected with water and drowning....tae
The amount of details put into everything is astounding who the hell comes up with these type of things, sometimes I question the sanity and brilliance of hitman....
I only decided to post it because I feel like it’s somehow connected with anohana : the flower we saw that day bc of smeraldo in singularity and tae “drowning”
(He basically says that film is extremely good for the youth and he suggests that ppl should watch it ect )
The plot of Anohana is
A group of six sixth-grade-age childhood friends drift apart after one of them, Meiko "Menma" Honma, dies in an accident. Years after the incident, the leader of the group, Jinta has withdrawn from society, does not attend high school, and lives as a recluse.
(Remember in run MV when namjoon was living in solitude )
One summer day, the ghost of an older-looking Menma appears beside him and asks to have a wish granted, reasoning that she cannot pass on into the afterlife until it is fulfilled. At first, he only tries to help her minimally because he thinks he is hallucinating. But since Menma does not remember what her wish is, Jinta gathers his estranged friends together once again, believing that they are the key to resolving this problem. All of the group joins him, though most of them do so reluctantly. However, things grow increasingly complicated when his friends accuse him of not being able to get over the death of Menma,
(Remember the fight yoongi and jk had bc he couldn’t accept Jin’s death?)
Jinta is the only one who can see Menma's ghost and his friends think he is seeing things. But as matters progress, it is realized that Jinta is not the only person in the group who is having trouble letting go of the past and later then Menma shows her presence to the group to prove that she is indeed real. It is revealed that all of the group members blame themselves for Menma's death and long-hidden feelings are rekindled. The group struggles as they grow from trying to help Menma move on and help each other move on as well.
Which is similar to the theory’s connected to HYYH story plot
Not to mention this
(Scene from the movie )
(I need you photo shoot )
( follow the leader scene )
(I need you photoshoot, with a follow the leader mentality )
Similarities are there...
Also Someone once took a pic of them watching it
I forget to mention the girl died from drowning, and who throughout is connected with water and drowning....tae
The amount of details put into everything is astounding who the hell comes up with these type of things, sometimes I question the sanity and brilliance of hitman....
I only decided to post it because I feel like it’s somehow connected with anohana : the flower we saw that day bc of smeraldo in singularity and tae “drowning”
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I'm pretty sure the concepts are just taken from books and movies
As are the songs
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In Singularity there is a lot of links and connections to Lakes which other users have touched on already
When V talks he’s talking about a metaphorical lake I assume and it’s like he’s dreaming so I wanted to search about the symbolism lakes have
“Lake dreams represent your nature and behaviour. These dreams also signify your thoughts, running emotions and fears(if any). We all got through a certain uneasy situation in life and this is the time people dream of a lake”
What symbolism does a lake have?
It is symbolic to females and and links to monsters, mystical and magical creatures known in the Egyptian times.
Lakes can be perceived as givers of fertility and can represent the cycle of life, death and resurrection. If you analyse the reflection of a lake it accentuates that lakes are symbolic of self-contemplation and looking at your own actions and choices.
There are different interpretations of lakes depending on what type of lakes eg flowing lakes, dirty lakes, clean lakes
If we look at Vs Singularity he talks about a frozen lake or being within a lake
“A crack again on this frozen lake”
The lake is covered in ice which is symbolic to a person being “frozen” or controlled by their thoughts, actions or emotions. It’s a sign of danger and gives a warning of softening on unwinding
“ I dumped myself into the lake”
We see V falling or jumping into water in epilogue Run, prologue etc
Falling into water or being In water shows that your thoughts and emotions are like a free-fall or that you’re in an uncertain position of waiting for a solution
I haven’t finished all of the analysis on the lyrics but I will try to later
When V talks he’s talking about a metaphorical lake I assume and it’s like he’s dreaming so I wanted to search about the symbolism lakes have
“Lake dreams represent your nature and behaviour. These dreams also signify your thoughts, running emotions and fears(if any). We all got through a certain uneasy situation in life and this is the time people dream of a lake”
What symbolism does a lake have?
It is symbolic to females and and links to monsters, mystical and magical creatures known in the Egyptian times.
Lakes can be perceived as givers of fertility and can represent the cycle of life, death and resurrection. If you analyse the reflection of a lake it accentuates that lakes are symbolic of self-contemplation and looking at your own actions and choices.
There are different interpretations of lakes depending on what type of lakes eg flowing lakes, dirty lakes, clean lakes
If we look at Vs Singularity he talks about a frozen lake or being within a lake
“A crack again on this frozen lake”
The lake is covered in ice which is symbolic to a person being “frozen” or controlled by their thoughts, actions or emotions. It’s a sign of danger and gives a warning of softening on unwinding
“ I dumped myself into the lake”
We see V falling or jumping into water in epilogue Run, prologue etc
Falling into water or being In water shows that your thoughts and emotions are like a free-fall or that you’re in an uncertain position of waiting for a solution
I haven’t finished all of the analysis on the lyrics but I will try to later
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Very interesting! Please continue