BTS discussion thread

[Wandering mind]

I don't know. armys are taking it as a joke but every detail in their videos is planned so why did they put him there?
the song is very creepy talking about Tae being controlled and silenced and then you see their CEO there and a picture of him smiling
Doesn't make sense

when I saw the tweet I didn't laughed at all or take it as joke because this just makes the video more creepy. Their CEO's picture there could mean a lot of things but a pure coincidence because Big Hit doesn't put things randomly.

 

[MochiAmour]

I don't know. armys are taking it as a joke but every detail in their videos is planned so why did they put him there?
the song is very creepy talking about Tae being controlled and silenced and then you see their CEO there and a picture of him smiling
Doesn't make sense

Maybe it's showing that he's their main handler who's keeping them controlled and is always watching them. They're his prisoners/slaves. The elite and their followers often hide everything in plain sight.

 

[Wandering mind]

theory 3.

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• he's dancing alone with a coat rack = solitude, lonely, alone, isolation

it reminds of the teaser of kai:

• I don’t have a voice= screaming ( from pain maybe )
• If I shouldn’t have thrown myself away= suicide (regret, pressure)
• Tell me if even this pain isn’t real= depression
• Reach my hand out to cover the mouth= secret, hidden, personal, private..
• Try to cover it = try to cover the pain, the sadness..

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theory 4.

• Have I lost myself= several personalities are created in a slave's mind. From severe (intentional) trauma, the main personality splits off into several parts, creating multiple personalities and a fractured mind. This explains why we hear so many celebrities claiming they have alter egos and split personalities (mk ultra maybe).

like the ariana grande's music video:
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or like the movie "The Wizard of Oz":

theory 5.
Today I hear that sound again
It’s ringing again, that sound
Have I lost myself
Or have I gained you
I suddenly run to the lake
There’s my face in it
Please don’t say anything

Schizophrenia:
Hearing voices are still considered by psychiatry as an auditory hallucination and as a symptom of conditions such as schizophrenic disorders, manic depression and psychosis.

these theories are all possibilities and could be true. I mean when you connect the dots, all these theories are valid.

 

[Wandering mind]

So their concept may have been inspired by Dante's works --> Taehyung in Singularity Tear
Lyrics:
A crack again on this frozen lake
I dumped myself into the lake
Over the winter lake I was thrown
A thick ice has formed
----
I suddenly run to the lake
There’s my face in it
---
The ice will melt and flow away
Tell me if my voice isn’t real

• "Dante believes that the sinners of the ninth circle have committed the greatest offenses"
• " 'The banners of the king of hell go forth' in a block of ice, frozen in self indulgence, cut off from absolution and from all others because they, themselves, have cut themselves off from others with their acts of betrayal"
• "The symbolic use of ice to encase satan reflects the true level of sin from which humans must flee"
• "The people in this circle planned out their deceptions of others similar to Cain
• "The symbolic representation of ice in this world reflects the cold and detached nature of transgressions committed"

https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/why-do-you-think-dante-has-chosen-encase-satan-ice-465414

Also these lyrics:
Try to cover my ears but can’t go to sleep
---
Today I hear that sound again
It’s ringing again, that sound

• Ringing of ears from a spiritual sense means:
• " involunteerily experiencing higher frequencies of information being poured into you from higher realms. involunteerily experiencing higher frequencies of information being poured into you from higher realms."
• "You might not have any conscious understanding of it, as it is occurring on a higher level. The sounds are a way of alerting you and tapping into your consciousness."
• "Earth is also moving closer to the galactic center, which might have something to do with it, as well as the activation of our DNA, not to mention other factors that we are unaware of."
• http://www.nataliakuna.com/ringing-in-the-ears-spiritual-meaning-of-this-awakening-symptom.html

Ringing of the ears can also mean demonic possession:

• "Demonic possession of an ear may manifest as deafness, tinnitus, or vertigo."
• https://staciespielman.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/types-of-demonic-possession/

Oh yeah recently I saw an illustration of Dante's hell that contains 9 levels as you said. Here it is if anyone is interested

 

[blissfate]

" I have lost myself "
That line could mean a lot of things but I found this interesting:
The Japanese say that a person has three faces :

1) The one you show the world
2) The one you shows to your friends and family
3)You never show it to anyone.. it is the truest reflection of who you are.

Yeah I heard about this before
Isn't it part of a religion or something

 

[blissfate]

Exactly...when I think about it I remember there was a theory of his grandma being a sacrifice. Its alledged that the blood sacrifice for fame involves any loved one. In I Need U original version V is seen killing his father, in Prologue it starts off with V's hands covered in blood, thought to be his fathers.
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The phrase Blood on his hands means to be responsible for someones death, to be guilty of causing someones death. Again in Prologue it shows V looking at a picture of a baby & older woman.

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( actual pic of v and his grandma, you can’t tell me these two pics don’t look alike )

His gran died on September 3rd, ( it’s the same day as the death of Rise and EunB from Ladies Codes) who were rumored to be an illuminati sacrifice one of their funerals were held 49 days later, 4+9=13 ( a very important number to the elite ) not to mention on the day of his gran’s funeral BTS won their very first award for BST

I’m not trying to defame them or anything but all of this is too much of a coincidence

OH MY GOD WHY DO I FEEL EVERYTHING IS COMING TOGETHER
IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

 

[MochiAmour]

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but did you notice that the mask Taehyung was wearing at the end, the mouth wasn't shown, it's like he isn't allowed to speak, just like the lyrics when he sang about his voice...

I think the mask with no mouth is showing the 'Vow of Silence' as others have mentioned. He's forced to hide behind a mask and never reveal any truths whether that applies to himself or his surroundings. He has to represent a carefully constructed facade.

Notice how before his masked self appears, shedding a tear nonetheless, he's shown covering his eyes before darkness comes over him and then it's a transition into the masked scene.

 

[MochiAmour]

This reminds me of a butterfly (monarch aka mk-ultra sign). It also looks like it could be an Angel (a fallen one in his concept). Not to mention it's masked in typical freemasonry colours of black and white.

 

[Maggieca]

I wonder if the number of masks is relevant. BTS has 7 members but 8 masks are surronding him in this video

 

[MochiAmour]

In DNA , Jungkook wore a shirt that said "LOVED" and so does Tae here:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/993157727202488320

loved spelled backwards is devol or devil
love backwards is evol or evil

I found this on a YT video.
It seems like they've all worn 'LOVED' at some point or another. Very interesting.

 

[MochiAmour]

I wonder if the number of masks is relevant. BTS has 7 members but 8 masks are surronding him in this video

There's always been a joke about a hidden 8th member too...

 

[MochiAmour]

The hidden 8th member should be Supreme Boi , they always called him part of BTS ( bts does he follow them on tour too? )

There's been many theories on who it could be from him to someone we've obviously never seen.

 

[Openyoureyes]

I wasn't waiting for V songs but i agree, it disappointed even me.

I see so many theories and i personally can't say anything because the only feeling that inspired in me is...boredom.
i couldn't even watch it all...i'm sorry but i can't even remember the tune of whatever V was singing, i just noticed some cheap half backed super-used mask theme and personally i don't even find it interesting enough to talk about it.

Well, at least it seems it is aesthetically pleasing i think, i don't find it creepy or dark at all tho, i find it generic.

I watched iwithoutt sound and went to Twitter for lyrics , my sis told that the song doesn't have the same effect serendipity has and it's a bit RnB

 

[Maggieca]

The hidden 8th member should be Supreme Boi , they always called him part of BTS ( bts does he follow them on tour too? )

oh no lets hope not!!! if thats the case then they better keep him as a secret lol

There's always been a joke about a hidden 8th member too...

I've seen some theories going around but always assumed it was a joke

 

[Maggieca]

I wasn't waiting for V songs but i agree, it disappointed even me.

I see so many theories and i personally can't say anything because the only feeling that inspired in me is...boredom.
i couldn't even watch it all...i'm sorry but i can't even remember the tune of whatever V was singing, i just noticed some cheap half backed super-used mask theme and personally i don't even find it interesting enough to talk about it.

Well, at least it seems it is aesthetically pleasing i think, i don't find it creepy or dark at all tho, i find it generic.

I watched iwithoutt sound and went to Twitter for lyrics , my sis told that the song doesn't have the same effect serendipity has and it's a bit RnB

I think the song fits taehyung voice but it's very average and kind of boring. Especially compared to Serendipity, wich in my opinion was a very nice song
I hope the rest of the album has a different style or at least a more memorable tittle track

 

[blissfate]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/992194999545663489

• Astral plane is another dimension and astral projection is an out of body experience.The soul travels outside the physical body. It can happen willfully and sometimes unknowingly.
• I looked into it before and there were many experiences where the person is possessed and the demon, spirit or whatever takes energy from you- I experienced it once unknowingly don't try it its scary
• I don't know much about the evil or occult meaning behind it besides possession

I'm pretty sure astral projection happens if you master lucid dreaming

 

[MochiAmour]

I watched iwithoutt sound and went to Twitter for lyrics , my sis told that the song doesn't have the same effect serendipity has and it's a bit RnB

It's interesting how certain songs give off a different effect to people. Serendipity never did anything for me and while I thought it was cute, I've only ever listened and watched the MV once even though Jimin is my bias. However, I'm in love with V's Singularity even if the MV gives me the creeps. His soulful voice has always been my favourite and the R&B vibe is my taste.

 

[Openyoureyes]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/992194999545663489

• Astral plane is another dimension and astral projection is an out of body experience.The soul travels outside the physical body. It can happen willfully and sometimes unknowingly.
• I looked into it before and there were many experiences where the person is possessed and the demon, spirit or whatever takes energy from you- I experienced it once unknowingly don't try it its scary
• I don't know much about the evil or occult meaning behind it besides possession

i used to read a lot about astral projection and account of ppl who tried it .ppl who already tried it either lose themselves in the process or after finishing the experience they gain some paranormal capacities like : hearing others thoughts , seeing non human figures, being able to connect with demonic creatures and once you try to let go of all this you get damned , there's no way out , they say it's a torture to live like this , they can't sleep bcuz they constantly hear voices talking to them as if they are possessed and little by little they dissociate themselves from our world

 

[the world is a stage]

Singularity theory Part 1

I have read through some theories on twitter, which I would like to show you.

Singularity meaning:
1. the state, fact, quality or condition of being singular
2. a point at which a function takes an infinite value, especially in space-time when matter is infinitely dense, such as at the centre of a black hole.

In the DNA music video we see a lot of black holes.

In this scene in particular, when all the members are together, there is no black hole in the background.
It appears after Taehyung is alone.

The hole black concept is about time distortion as you can see in the graph singularity it's in the centre of it. Meaning not even time can escape singularity. This is important, because Jin can cause time distortion, but not singularity.


That's why in the Euphoria MV Taehyung looked at Jin like that. He kept doubting him because he being the singularity of this black hole. It's not affected by Jin's time distortions. He remembers what really happened.


This would also explain why Tae has bandage on his hand.

He shouldn't have them, because Jin turned back the time, so he couldn't have killed his father in this dimension, therefore no bandages. BUT HE HAS THEM. Because he is not affected by the time distortions.


Side Note: two very similar scenes


If things would get sucked into a black hole, they would get crushed and destroyed by something called singularity.

Do you know what "tear" as a verb means?
To pull (something) apart or to piece with force. It is tear as a verb, not as a noun.

That's why Tae throughout this story is breaking and destroying things, it's in "his nature".
Singularity tears things apart. And he is going to tear this illusion of things getting better in this new dimension, because he as the singularity can not be changed.

Singularity is referencing "A beautiful mind". The movie is about a man who has schizophrenia and believes he is a government agent looking for war codes in newspapers. However, it's all his own imagination. He begins to doubt what is real or fake.


Remember at the end of the video Tae has a white mask on with black tear streaming on his left eye.

The teardrop tattoo or tear tattoo is a symbolic tattoo for a tear that is placed underneath the eye. the teardrop is one of the most widely recognised prison tattoos and has various meanings.
It can signify that the wearer has spent time in prison or more specifically that the wearer was raped while incarcerated and tattoed by the rapist as a "property" mark and for humilation, since facial tattoos cannot be concealed.
In some cases, it may signify that the wearer has killed someone.
It could also point to the all-seeing eye




Icarus
Taehyung played himself through various personalities trying to find himself but it got back at him and made him fall...like ICARUS.

In Greek mythology, Icarus (the Latin spelling, conventionally adopted in English; Ancient Greek: Ἴκαρος, Íkaros, Etruscan: Vikare[1]) is the son of the master craftsman Daedalus, the creator of the Labyrinth. Icarus and his father attempt to escape from Crete by means of wings that his father constructed from feathers and wax. Icarus' father warns him first of complacency and then of hubris, asking that he fly neither too low nor too high, so the sea's dampness would not clog his wings or the sun's heat melt them. Icarus ignored his father's instructions not to fly too close to the sun; when the wax in his wings melted he tumbled out of the sky and fell into the sea where he drowned, sparking the idiom "don't fly too close to the sun".

 

[MochiAmour]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/993155460118147074