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Lol...South Korea is making life "unendurable" for the North by blasting BTS songs in loudspeakers which can be heard many kilometers away...

So BTS songs are now "weapons of warfare..." :D

 
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e-Enoch said:
Lol...South Korea is making life "unendurable" for the North by blasting BTS songs in loudspeakers which can be heard many kilometers away...

So BTS songs are now "weapons of warfare..." :D

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Ok…. Imma say it: Garbage for Garbage. It’s a straight trade. :eek:o_O:eek:o_O
 
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Here's the way I see it: Don't eff around, because you will find out. If you tag someone's personal account with such childish nonsense and accusations, then you are going to receive a childish response.

It is so aggravating how convinced armpits are that JM is being sabotaged. I mean really, how would they sabotage him with a group that hardly anyone has heard of? There are tons of artists around the world who I am very sure are going to also release music on the 28th, not just JM. We are not going to part the sea for JM and require all companies and artists to halt all releases for his benefit.
 
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theartbook35 said:
Here's the way I see it: Don't eff around, because you will find out. If you tag someone's personal account with such childish nonsense and accusations, then you are going to receive a childish response.

It is so aggravating how convinced armpits are that JM is being sabotaged. I mean really, how would they sabotage him with a group that hardly anyone has heard of? There are tons of artists around the world who I am very sure are going to also release music on the 28th, not just JM. We are not going to part the sea for JM and require all companies and artists to halt all releases for his benefit.
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Jm's fans need to reflect on matters which need a rational approach...and hopefully try a more mature response...playing "victim" as a fandom does not work...unless their stan truly is a "victim..." In any case, Jm's vocals absolutely needs improvement... :)
 
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What I find a little bizarre is that the article refers to the kissing of the celebrity at the celebrity hug event as an unexpected and unforseen occurrence. Really? This type of thing couldn’t have been predicted? Hugs and kisses tend to go together. This is not to say that the ARMYs had a right to kiss Jin without his consent of course. I just find it wild that they would go so far as to suggest that stolen kisses could not have been anticipated in such a setting.
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Not okay to do anything without consent, but it's interesting fans in Korea are expected to spend thousands on idols, forgo dating at the behest of their idols(many tell fans not to date and only focus on them), are basically super lonely like most in korean culture and a kiss on the cheek is wild to everyone. I think I posted somewhere before that with western celebs tight hugs and friendly kisses on the cheek are normal but in Korea they seem to have this odd imitation of that but with no emotion involved. They have a robotic version of spreading love but in reality the celebs are disgusted by showing affection to strangers.

Not that americans can't be too touchy or grabby as well which isn't right
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but there's not a criminalization or fans berating or bullying other fans who get special attention like hugs or kisses.
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it's interesting how jb fans in asia quickly where able to expect hugs and kisses because they knew what fans in the west got. It says a lot about cultural practices and humanity because honestly I don't believe "asian fans" are as shy or as jealous as any other human has the potential to be. The reality is fans in asia are treated as lowly and act as such. They can make demands but many never ask for more than a stiff photo if that. Kpop took the marketing advice of western entertainment but has such a wide gap between different classes of people. The reality is the fansign hugs and kisses are meant for wealthy heiress'/ fans who spend millions a year and not the common women. That's why you will never see street photos of idols with Korean fans. Maybe if they go on vacation in a foreign country but very uncommon. This is a big reason why they hate/ are jealous of ifans. It's actually sad how they get treated. But in return the idols have it worse to, one dating scandal with real evidence or a 'photo of a kiss' they'd be dead in Korea. It's messed up all the way around

The reality is fans who are treated like people and not cash cows tend to loose the fanatical behavior and chill out a lot more. I'm not sure if any modern day idol could have a spouse and share their life and be casual. Not because asian fans aren't human but because the system of idols is outdated and used simply as a major distraction from the gov even more than celebs are here. It leads to most never accepting celebs growing up and wanting them to stay young childlike and asexual forever. Some wish death on idols who try to have american style freedom yet may like american artist, but don't give asian celebs the same respect.

They stream and chart more but the reality is if a dating scandal can ruin your career you don't have a career.

In reality this is just sad but anthropology wise celeb culture is fascinating.
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knowing how insane and overprotective japanese fans have a history of being seeing a western celeb go and have people change behavioral patterns they swore they'd never change is insane. I've seen many argue Kfans aren't brash and desperate like western fans and only care about the idols success, but they are notorious for wanting idols who openly date to feel their wrath. The reality is when celebs are curated to be perfect it has a negative affect on the fans. It's not realistic so the fans warp their minds to create a new world where it all makes sense. I don't know much about what happened but if Kpop keeps going the way it's going the fans will be even crazier. They will believe the celebs really aren't human at all.
 
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sike1309 said:
yeah. None of the bts members came out with a hit (solo).
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Do you have an official basis for saying this like a research data or a legitimate chart info? Or are you just making a personal assumption?
 
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Journal atlas said:
Not okay to do anything without consent, but it's interesting fans in Korea are expected to spend thousands on idols, forgo dating at the behest of their idols(many tell fans not to date and only focus on them), are basically super lonely like most in korean culture and a kiss on the cheek is wild to everyone. I think I posted somewhere before that with western celebs tight hugs and friendly kisses on the cheek are normal but in Korea they seem to have this odd imitation of that but with no emotion involved. They have a robotic version of spreading love but in reality the celebs are disgusted by showing affection to strangers.

Not that americans can't be too touchy or grabby as well which isn't right
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but there's not a criminalization or fans berating or bullying other fans who get special attention like hugs or kisses.
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it's interesting how jb fans in asia quickly where able to expect hugs and kisses because they knew what fans in the west got. It says a lot about cultural practices and humanity because honestly I don't believe "asian fans" are as shy or as jealous as any other human has the potential to be. The reality is fans in asia are treated as lowly and act as such. They can make demands but many never ask for more than a stiff photo if that. Kpop took the marketing advice of western entertainment but has such a wide gap between different classes of people. The reality is the fansign hugs and kisses are meant for wealthy heiress'/ fans who spend millions a year and not the common women. That's why you will never see street photos of idols with Korean fans. Maybe if they go on vacation in a foreign country but very uncommon. This is a big reason why they hate/ are jealous of ifans. It's actually sad how they get treated. But in return the idols have it worse to, one dating scandal with real evidence or a 'photo of a kiss' they'd be dead in Korea. It's messed up all the way around

The reality is fans who are treated like people and not cash cows tend to loose the fanatical behavior and chill out a lot more. I'm not sure if any modern day idol could have a spouse and share their life and be casual. Not because asian fans aren't human but because the system of idols is outdated and used simply as a major distraction from the gov even more than celebs are here. It leads to most never accepting celebs growing up and wanting them to stay young childlike and asexual forever. Some wish death on idols who try to have american style freedom yet may like american artist, but don't give asian celebs the same respect.

They stream and chart more but the reality is if a dating scandal can ruin your career you don't have a career.

In reality this is just sad but anthropology wise celeb culture is fascinating.
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knowing how insane and overprotective japanese fans have a history of being seeing a western celeb go and have people change behavioral patterns they swore they'd never change is insane. I've seen many argue Kfans aren't brash and desperate like western fans and only care about the idols success, but they are notorious for wanting idols who openly date to feel their wrath. The reality is when celebs are curated to be perfect it has a negative affect on the fans. It's not realistic so the fans warp their minds to create a new world where it all makes sense. I don't know much about what happened but if Kpop keeps going the way it's going the fans will be even crazier. They will believe the celebs really aren't human at all.
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A fan hugged Yj of t×t with his permission and the other fans online had a tantrum. Chr1s Br0wn held a similar type of fan meeting, but also held fan's butts, hugged, and took pictures. I don't think kpop idols allow fans to take pictures. Kpop is a pale imitation of American population music, and it's run by people who don't care about the fan's emotional well-being or health. If they did, a lot of things wouldn't be the way they are.
 
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Strawberrypie said:
A fan hugged Yj of t×t with his permission and the other fans online had a tantrum. Chr1s Br0wn held a similar type of fan meeting, but also held fan's butts, hugged, and took pictures. I don't think kpop idols allow fans to take pictures. Kpop is a pale imitation of American population music, and it's run by people who don't care about the fan's emotional well-being or health. If they did, a lot of things wouldn't be the way they are.
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I think because some kpop fans are very toxic. How are you ?long time no see you
 
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Strawberrypie said:
A fan hugged Yj of t×t with his permission and the other fans online had a tantrum. Chr1s Br0wn held a similar type of fan meeting, but also held fan's butts, hugged, and took pictures. I don't think kpop idols allow fans to take pictures. Kpop is a pale imitation of American population music, and it's run by people who don't care about the fan's emotional well-being or health. If they did, a lot of things wouldn't be the way they are.
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Hi! Welcome back! :)
 
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Strawberrypie said:
A fan hugged Yj of t×t with his permission and the other fans online had a tantrum. Chr1s Br0wn held a similar type of fan meeting, but also held fan's butts, hugged, and took pictures. I don't think kpop idols allow fans to take pictures. Kpop is a pale imitation of American population music, and it's run by people who don't care about the fan's emotional well-being or health. If they did, a lot of things wouldn't be the way they are.
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Strawberry! It's been forever! How's life?

Kpop fans can been horrifyingly toxic. For example, some fans felt "betrayed" after Sungmin of Suju got married. Imagine how armpits would behave if one of the BT5 members got married...

Even before that, remember the Only 13 situation with Henry? I'm still scarred by that. Apparently there are still some people who yell that at him to this day. All over fans misunderstanding and panicking over a statement from SM.
 
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theartbook35 said:
Strawberry! It's been forever! How's life?

Kpop fans can been horrifyingly toxic. For example, some fans felt "betrayed" after Sungmin of Suju got married. Imagine how armpits would behave if one of the BT5 members got married...

Even before that, remember the Only 13 situation with Henry? I'm still scarred by that. Apparently there are still some people who yell that at him to this day. All over fans misunderstanding and panicking over a statement from SM.
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yes i imagine the day they would announce their engagements or marriages .. some army would be mad at them
 
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