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Laura755y

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i asked it before any idea of my wandering
Guys have you ever seen Armys to attack anyone irl?? Like cause any actual trouble? Or they are very loud only on social media??
I personally never saw them to be any powerful than a chirping bird irl, mostly because they are children or teen or immature adult. They are usually trolled by other people on social media tbh. Like they try to bash someone or artist than that person shuts them down easily. Only thing I've seen from armys is they trend that news for a while, then poof!! like cowards LOL!
In my country, there isnt a lot of bts fans, but 1 month ago, couple of girls (fans of them) around 16/17 yo who studied in my sister's high school, beat the shit out of a girl cuz she said that the 7 looks effeminate, she was hospitalised, my sister said there was no broking bones but she was all bruised. And another case where one of my siblings friend who lives abroad was heavily bullied cuz they werent fan of them. So yeah some fans arent just loud on the internet but also irl.
Jeon's ex if im not wrong was stalked , bullied (her and the co-workers in the shop she worked in) .
 

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link means related to them. which I haven't seen any. what I've seen links only from others and rest of the things we are just imagining.
You want solid proofs that they're indeed involved, but even if someone has them, it wont be posted here nor in social medias, things like this circulate in secrecy, you cant post a file of a deal with the names on it, or a video of a meeting between person X from compangy x and person y from compagny y or some business men .talking about some drugs / prostitution or child trafficking deal,, or a celebrity doing orgies/rituals ..... etc .
ull be hunted down, so the safest thing is to say person x did this and this, without posting actual proofs cuz this is the only thing that triggers them. U can take what u read with a grain of salt, and do ur analyses, but, some b*s members arent any better, some of them are sick, some of them are involved in drugs businesses/prostitutions and profites from it, some of them did rituals. Bang is invoved in minors sex traffick, its up to you if you wanna believe it or not.
 

e-Enoch

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i asked it before any idea of my wandering
Guys have you ever seen Armys to attack anyone irl?? Like cause any actual trouble? Or they are very loud only on social media??
I personally never saw them to be any powerful than a chirping bird irl, mostly because they are children or teen or immature adult. They are usually trolled by other people on social media tbh. Like they try to bash someone or artist than that person shuts them down easily. Only thing I've seen from armys is they trend that news for a while, then poof!! like cowards LOL!
In the light of this query, I believe, it's fitting to understand how to process claims, assertions, declarations, speculations, etc..that people often make in any forum...

Overall, it's all about the question of Evidence...

We must know that, hearsay, does not constitute as "evidence" and is "not even admissible" in any courts of law...

Hence, it serves us well to not readily believe in any hearsay... It is better to research & verify claims or information, esp those with serious consequences...

Here's a good site that offers basic understanding about Evidence..

Accordingly, there are 4 types of evidence:

  1. Real evidence;
  2. Demonstrative evidence;
  3. Documentary evidence; and
  4. Testimonial evidence.
 
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...No hate, but I really hope the Juice Wrld thing is just a rumor. It's sad that they would go to the lengths of riding the coat tail of even a deceased black american musician for clout. It would have been different if he was still with us and had a say on what is being put out. But with their track record the past 2 years and them spreading their a*scheeks for coin and the Grammy. My faith is low on the outcome. Besides when have BT$ ever shown any concern or associated with Juice? I'm shocked they're not working on the Re-Remix for PTD.
They were actually his fans before he died
 

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Yes,I believe it was totally a sacrifice too. I had never heard of Juice Wrld before his song with Bt€, but as I was searching for more info about his death on Twitter I came across this video of him apparently selling his soul to the Illumin@ti live(?)!
Also, in one of his songs apparently said he felt like John Lennon who happen to have died the same day as him wtf.
he made a revolution also, he was kinda speaking about the hollywood and shit.
 

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From what I know, lil p3ep(or whatever his name is) and Xxxtent@cion died before they get to be 21(or a little after that). Xxxtent@cion was a terrible person to say the least and he used many Illumin@ti symbols. I don't know almost anything about them since I don't like mumble rap/modern American rap at all but this is what I found out on Twitter when I was searching for more info about Juic3 Wrld's death. I believe that young rappers nowadays don't care/don't actually believe that they are gonna die as a sacrifice, they are not particularly clever enough either and all they care for is the money and live a better life than their previous one, that's why many of them have the "live fast die young" motto. Also, most of them come from poor families so the elite always takes advantage of this. So,they may be replacable for the the higher-ups and their "casual" rituals and they probably even know it but it doesn't bother them as long as they and their family are financially secure. (That migh explain the overwhelming amount of mumble rappers that come out every so often). This whole thing is just sad.
juice wrld didn't want to die.
 
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e-Enoch

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This forum is called Vigilant Citizen... and as "vigilant citizens," it implies that we are looking, watching, reading, joining, actively participating, contributing, and learning...to be alert, informed, and possibly as agent/s for positive awareness & constructive change in our world...

This site offers many varieties of forums and threads that anyone can navigate that fits his/her interests...

This BTS thread is the biggest thread in terms of pages and activity...which simply shows the immense popularity of this entertainment group...

It's a very rich source of information and naturally, as a result of democratic and free expression of thoughts, emotions, ideas, opinions, information and the like...

While there's been an exciting "growth" in terms of topics & discussion activities, it is best to always remember and act on the original intent of the thread...stated clearly on the very first page courtesy of its original poster @Maggieca...

It's a great priviledge to be part of this forum...and it's been an amazing hub for knowing & learning...
 
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JimiJymy2

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You want solid proofs that they're indeed involved, but even if someone has them, it wont be posted here nor in social medias, things like this circulate in secrecy, you cant post a file of a deal with the names on it, or a video of a meeting between person X from compangy x and person y from compagny y or some business men .talking about some drugs / prostitution or child trafficking deal,, or a celebrity doing orgies/rituals ..... etc .
ull be hunted down, so the safest thing is to say person x did this and this, without posting actual proofs cuz this is the only thing that triggers them. U can take what u read with a grain of salt, and do ur analyses, but, some b*s members arent any better, some of them are sick, some of them are involved in drugs businesses/prostitutions and profites from it, some of them did rituals. Bang is invoved in minors sex traffick, its up to you if you wanna believe it or not.
I wish it could be more easy calling people out...
I've been thinking "maybe g.maxwell has put all the names involved in different letters and sent them to random people across the world and I could be receiving one" lol

Once, I was looking for a course to apply and found one. I was so happy about it and told my mum. The fear in her eyes and the "no" that came out from her mouth. I cancelled the whole plan.
I think she foresaw the direction of my life...

The course was with M-i5...My only objective was to help people by becoming a whistle-blower...
Yeah
 

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This forum is called Vigilant Citizen... and as "vigilant citizens," it implies that we are looking, watching, reading, joining, actively participating, contributing, and learning...to be alert, informed, and possibly as agent/s for positive awareness & constructive change in our world...

This site offers many varieties of forums and threads that anyone can navigate that fits his/her interests...

This BTS thread is the biggest thread in terms of pages and activity...which simply shows the immense popularity of this entertainment group...

It's a very rich source of information and naturally, as a result of democratic and free expression of thoughts, emotions, ideas, opinions, information and the like...

While there's been an exciting "growth" in terms of topics & discussion activities, it is best to always remember and act on the original intent of the thread...stated clearly on the very first page courtesy of its original poster @Maggieca...

It's a great priviledge to be part of this forum...and it's been an amazing hub for knowing & learning...
I agree


At first there was so much backlash when she made the stb thread...it was crazy. But it is still standing strong.

When I first read your last sentence I though you were leaving. You're going nowhere e-Enoch lol
 
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In my country, there isnt a lot of bts fans, but 1 month ago, couple of girls (fans of them) around 16/17 yo who studied in my sister's high school, beat the shit out of a girl cuz she said that the 7 looks effeminate, she was hospitalised, my sister said there was no broking bones but she was all bruised. And another case where one of my siblings friend who lives abroad was heavily bullied cuz they werent fan of them. So yeah some fans arent just loud on the internet but also irl.
Jeon's ex if im not wrong was stalked , bullied (her and the co-workers in the shop she worked in) .
Fansites, and in some cases regular Asian women, were attacked at the Los Angeles concerts. The fact btees said nothing to defuse a bad situation said everything. Armys can be very racist and ugly towards other Armys. I've seen Asians attacking blacks, western fans on the attack with karmys, and for all their gay acceptance, saw someone using homophobic language and fatshaming. Kpop fans can be crazy. One of the members of twice is being stalked by a man who's threatened her life if she dates anyone besides him.
 

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Me too except I wish it wasn't. Sad that people are going through these things. I wonder what's with cdan dropping a lot of tea lately. Blackmail from other companies or something else? Every month there's something new.
It is really sad. The more I get to know about these things the more depress I become.
I've heard that celebrities can be paid/used as decoy/scapegoats to distract the masses while something big is happening somewhere else (e.g. stb insta accounts, stb at the U.N. & cop26, etc)
Apart from the previous posts, I'm not really familiar with cdan so I don't know if it could be the same thing she/he is doing or has hotter tea in reserve

Why is the world so complicated ..it's tiring
 

e-Enoch

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It is really sad. The more I get to know about these things the more depress I become.
I've heard that celebrities can be paid/used as decoy/scapegoats to distract the masses while something big is happening somewhere else (e.g. stb insta accounts, stb at the U.N. & cop26, etc)
Apart from the previous posts, I'm not really familiar with cdan so I don't know if it could be the same thing she/he is doing or has hotter tea in reserve

Why is the world so complicated ..it's tiring
Humanity has become "complicated" and seemingly "tireless..."

We have been "induced" by sinister powers to engage in "constant activities" many of which, we realize, are not even essential to our existence...

We have been led to a belief in existentialism and a hedonistic way of life...

In all fairness, we were not originally created to be this way...

That's why there's a constant longing in our hearts for peace, serenity, and simplicity...

...which we can still have as we transparently, honestly commune with our Creator... He is never shocked at who we are...and what we have become...

...And there's always hope...because of Almighty God's "stubborn love..."

 
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