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e-Enoch

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Wow you're right. It's funny I didn't think of that, but a lot of western artists these days curse an exorbitant amount. I think if it didn't come across as rehearsed b*s wouldn't have sounded so cringe.

Kind of like when they performed in the U.K. and were copying the cliche stereotype British accent. Rm did the faux posh accent here on the late night show probably because C0rden is british..it's when he says "hot water with armies, are you alright?"
And t*e really is broken isn't he? And I never thought about MPD with him, but you never know. The thing is that the disorder is developed as a young child, from severe repeated abuse/trauma. I believe I read that if a trauma happens to a child over 8 yrs old then they won't end up with multiple personality disorder. So if t*e has that then he always did and he suffered from abuse and neglect early on.
Among many Western artists, punctuating their speech with curses, is a "cool" thing to do especially among the hip hop groups or rappers who have developed a sub-culture with their own linguistic style & patterns...which interestingly, have also made the genre more unique & well-defined... they speak like that even when they're not making music or rap...

About Rm...haha, that was a good & keen observation you made about how he "tried" to do some British accent with Cord3n...the inflection came at the last part when he made that falling intonation in the last 2 syllables... lol.

As for T*e, it's very possible that he's experienced trauma before age 7... There are not a lot of data coming from T*e's personal life...but the more publicized info that his grandma was the one who raised him speaks so much about his nuclear family...to be taken cared of not by your own parents, suggest a whole lot of other issues besides economics...

Surprisingly, despite his "erratic" behaviors, I still find T*e to be the most "authentic" of them all...
 

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Among many Western artists, punctuating their speech with curses, is a "cool" thing to do especially among the hip hop groups or rappers who have developed a sub-culture with their own linguistic style & patterns...which interestingly, have also made the genre more unique & well-defined... they speak like that even when they're not making music or rap...

About Rm...haha, that was a good & keen observation you made about how he "tried" to do some British accent with Cord3n...the inflection came at the last part when he made that falling intonation in the last 2 syllables... lol.

As for T*e, it's very possible that he's experienced trauma before age 7... There are not a lot of data coming from T*e's personal life...but the more publicized info that his grandma was the one who raised him speaks so much about his nuclear family...to be taken cared of not by your own parents, suggest a whole lot of other issues besides economics...

Surprisingly, despite his "erratic" behaviors, I still find T*e to be the most "authentic" of them all...
There are people who think that Tae is autistic ,that could explain some of his behaviours.If he is autistic he is the most genuine,it is not arrogance,and some of them are talented
 

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thank you for posting this video, I didnt watch the show

But saw twitter comments about RM's attitude here and how BT---S supports army being bullies. And those comments were right

This was the perfect moment for BTS to call out their fans abusive behavior
instead they laughed about it, and RM acting all cocky told Corden he "accepts his apologies"

Corden is apologizing because he made a joke about ARmys (said they are 15 years old...oh wow so offensive)
But why is BTS not apologizing for armys sending death threats online??.....that is way worse than the Corden joke
Corden didnt apologize and he was cut off by rmm when he said that it wasnt an apology

It's crazy how armi go insane over someone being rude to btss but when btss, or rather, rmm is rude to someone its him being savage
The double standard is ridiculous

However btss should call out their fans ,txt does it quite a bit
Vee and jn are the ones who call them out every now and then but the other 5 are totally complicit with their fandoms behavior
 

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Corden didnt apologize and he was cut off by rmm when he said that it wasnt an apology

It's crazy how armi go insane over someone being rude to btss but when btss, or rather, rmm is rude to someone its him being savage
The double standard is ridiculous

However btss should call out their fans ,txt does it quite a bit
Vee and jn are the ones who call them out every now and then but the other 5 are totally complicit with their fandoms behavior
What did tx* about calling out the fans?
 

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In korea autistic people are seen as monsters,so if there are idols with asperger or autism they would never reveal for avoid judgement,and because of idol image.
There are idols suspected to be autistic from people who know autism,these are the names,there is also Taehyung.


*XO’s DO and Sehun, Shinee Jonghyun,Wang Yibo, VIXX’s Leo, TOO’s Chihoon, Treasure’s Asahi, VICTON’s Byungchan, Seventeen’s Jun, NCT’s Taeyong, BTS’s Taehyung, Yoongi,GIDLEShuhua,Monsta x kihyun,Ateez yeosang.
There are people who think Ta3min,but I don't think so because he is enlisted,autistic people can't be in the army,maybe they could do public officer,but Ta3min is a soldier like was Key.Also DO was in the army,so he can't be autistic,also Baekhyun who is another suspected to be in the spectrum
Vixx Leo was in the public service,it could be possible that the autistic idols enlisted to avoid problems,but in the army they know the real situation,and they accept to cover the truth for the sake of the idol.
 
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I always thought that jk's foot injury was reshot for the cameras.
His injury was weird because there were differing stories as to how he got hurt. He said it was when he was working out in his room and he hit a piece of furniture. The members said it was when he was in the shower and he was being careless. Bh said it was due to him doing light stretches. Like which one is it?? And I don't think you're over thinking. Their "injuries" are always explained in a vague manner and there's a lot more going on that they're not saying.
i wouldn't surprised if those injuries are result of abuse and punishment and they have to cover the reason
 

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In korea autistic people are seen as monsters,so if there are idols with asperger or autism they would never reveal for avoid judgement,and because of idol image.
There are idols suspected to be autistic from people who know autism,these are the names,there is also Taehyung.


*XO’s DO and Sehun, Shinee Jonghyun,Wang Yibo, VIXX’s Leo, TOO’s Chihoon, Treasure’s Asahi, VICTON’s Byungchan, Seventeen’s Jun, NCT’s Taeyong, BTS’s Taehyung, Yoongi,GIDLEShuhua,Monsta x kihyun,Ateez yeosang.
There are people who think Ta3min,but I don't think so because he is enlisted,autistic people can't be in the army,maybe they could do public office,but Ta3min is a soldier.
Vixx Leo was in the public service,it could be possible that the autistic idols enlisted to avoid problems,but in the army they know the real situation,and they accept to cover the truth for the sake of the idol.
i wonder if there are also some girl group members that are asperger or autistic
 

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Can you post the references of different statements of all of them.
Sorry I'm just going by my memory from something that happened in 2018 lol. Bh's statement said jk was "lightly stretching" and that his injury was minor.
Jk had a live and explained about his injury and blamed himself. He said it was because he had no shoes on while exercising. It was this live I believe..
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The one about him being in the shower and injuring himself was spread around back then. It might have been from one of their many docuseries, but I distinctly remember that was what was said at the time.

Important thing is there were differing accounts about how he got hurt. If anyone can corroborate with what I'm saying that would be great haha. I'm not making this up, but when I look for it now I find nothing.
 

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I agree. Jk seems genuine, which has me stumped. He really is a mystery because I just can't figure him out. He's either one of the best actors on this planet or is actually a good guy. And in that industry I find that hard to believe. But I've never seen him slip out of character.

I will say I see that he loves to perform in front of an audience. He's again an odd one because he obviously loves the stage and attention, but comes across most of the time awkward and shy. Idk with him. The other members are easier to read, except for jn.
By virtue of their showbiz profession, they are essentially "required or forced" to do some acting...yeah, that's why "show" is their "business"... What they "show" is carefully strategized for maximum profit... This is why it's quite hard to know who they really are...

But we can get some ideas when we closely observe what they say or don't or how they behave in random, spontaneous situations...

I think Jk does a lot of "acting" and even "acting genuine" is still acting... but I tend to believe his affection for armees is real... because...

...while Jk appears "strong" with his "bad boy" image, he is a very dependent person... He needs to be "dependent" on certain people primarily for his own survival... in different ways at different levels...

When he said that he can be a very "loyal" person...that likely means because he "needs" to be that because of dependency...

He "needs" the armees...for personal, psychological, and professional validation...not to mention economic survival...Armees is an "essential crutch" for him...he needs to be "genuine" in order to keep them...

Jn strongly appears to be Jk's opposite... he is very independent...he was the first to purchase his own separate apartment...getting his own, exclusive space... He is very clever and highly intelligent...

He majored in Film & Drama, I think, not for the purpose of literal acting in dramas & films...(he hasn't really shown excitement in doing these...otherwise, he would've made at least one already...)

I think Jn studied the "art of acting" to effectively & successfully navigate the entire arena of showbiz...especially as a betees member...

I believe, Jn always maintains an "invisible personal bubble" of protection for himself... not revealing so much...knows how to control his emotions & "vulnerabilities".... He likes armees...but they "can't stand too close" to him...

He is calculating, rational, and strategic...He certainly knows his game...it's not surprising why he loves to go fishing...he contemplates as he catches the fish...right from its mouth! Haha!
 
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thank you for posting this video, I didnt watch the show

But saw twitter comments about RM's attitude here and how BT---S supports army being bullies. And those comments were right

This was the perfect moment for BTS to call out their fans abusive behavior
instead they laughed about it, and RM acting all cocky told Corden he "accepts his apologies"

Corden is apologizing because he made a joke about ARmys (said they are 15 years old...oh wow so offensive)
But why is BTS not apologizing for armys sending death threats online??.....that is way worse than the Corden joke
No problem :) And I hated the way they responded about armies. It's like they gave them the green light to harass people in the future. I can see that fandom using this clip whenever they get rightfully called out for abusing and doxxing people. And wasn't it rm that said b*s has armies behind them when they say so? Disgusting!
 

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There are people who think that Tae is autistic ,that could explain some of his behaviours.If he is autistic he is the most genuine,it is not arrogance,and some of them are talented
There could be an actual clinical diagnosis about this alleged autism...But this is absolutely under lock and key... They will never, ever let the public know about this...

Truth is, every person tends to exhibit certain "autistic traits," which sometimes, we just refer to as "weirdness" or "craziness.." lol.
 

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I found this on quora searching about v,and I was not sure that Yoongi tried to cut himself,but it is the truth,he told in a song.
"Min Yoongi (of BTS) has a mixtape under the name of Agust D where he talks about his struggles while becoming an idol and about his depressive mental health. In his song, THE LAST, he talks about lying down on the bathroom floor every night (or something like that) which is a metaphor to cutting.

Plus, at some point he says: “Min Yoongi is dead. I killed him.” which to me signifies that he has tried to commit suicide.
He started to have socialphobia at 18,and he went to psychiatrist with his parents
Another who cut himself and said it (in the past)is Key.



Also Felix has a lot of scars,and people think he cut himself.
 
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V is so weird ,I found a video with their ment,what do you think about V?


V, that guy is so weird,but in a very awfull way, what i noticed this few past months is that he started acting like a child in many occasion, when i searched about it, it have something related to a trauma, i guess enoch said it as well, when i searched about it, i figured that its a defense mechanisme, and it happens when.the person is in a state of shok, stress... its called age regression. This article give better explanation.
 

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What did tx* about calling out the fans?
I'm paraphrasing but not too long ago fans were calling a member fat/saying he gained weight and soobin? was like dont say things like that and people should look in a mirror before saying things like that to someone

Soobin wasnt the member that fans were talking about but he stepped up as the leader and told the fans off sternly but not in a mean way

Correct me someone if I have the members confused
 
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V, that guy is so weird,but in a very awfull way, what i noticed this few past months is that he started acting like a child in many occasion, when i searched about it, it have something related to a trauma, i guess enoch said it as well, when i searched about it, i figured that its a defense mechanisme, and it happens when.the person is in a state of shok, stress... its called age regression. This article give better explanation.
This article is interesting,thank you ♡
Jn was acting in the video and he did the aegyo,but V worries me,he acts like someone who has mental problems,did,borderline or pstd
 

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I'm paraphrasing but not too long ago fans were calling a member fat/saying he gained weight and soobin? was like dont say things like that and people should look in a mirror before saying things like that to someone

Soobin wasnt the member that fans were talking about but he stepped up as the leader and told the fans off sternly but not in a mean way

Correct me someone if I have the members confused
I found an article about it ,it was Yeonjun the member called chubby,people are crazy,seriously,he is not chubby
 

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About Rm...haha, that was a good & keen observation you made about how he "tried" to do some British accent with Cord3n...the inflection came at the last part when he made that falling intonation in the last 2 syllables... lol.
Thanks and if I may be frank lol...rm has some serious issues. Basically rm just mimics people, he was doing this with C0rden. And this is why his raps fall flat compared to yn and jhpe. He is just copying rappers he has listened to and not finding a style of his own. I believe he is extremely insecure, has low self-esteem, and gets very jealous. He will hide all of this by mocking people, boasting, and trying to appear more put together and smarter than everyone else. He's very prideful but weak.

I will use this clip as an example. I believe Rm is jealous here. Rm is jealous that jk is getting attention and trending for his English skills when that's his fort. So what does he do? He mocks armies and mimics how they're responding to jk...making it look like he doesn't care when he clearly does.
 
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