BTS discussion thread

[Berrywon88]

Competing with the "more established Western artists" is realistically a tough one... It would be practical for them to improve also on their English songs and speech... sheer size of fandom is not enough...

This might be a controversial opinion but I think rm's English and leadership was a lot better years ago. I never thought he was a good leader or spokesman for the group, but he's gotten worse. This was his ending speech at the concert...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464965756492210189

I could barely understand or keep up with what he was saying. I think he stopped studying English and it shows. He's also trying way too hard to be cool and it's messing with his pronunciation. When he said that awkward "g0dd@mn" I cringed.

The other members are sounding better than him these days. Jk's pronunciation here was excellent. I've said before he speaks the best.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465169241766719492

I just don't know how much he really knows and understands since everything's scripted. I also noticed even t*e's pronunciation has improved greatly. Jhpe as well.
BUT it's not enough! Their company failed them by not giving them language and vocal coaches early on. Even SM artists get that. Rm honestly makes them look arrogant and desperate. Not a good look. I don't think they will win a Grammy. Their music is trash now.

 

[eaisa]

This might be a controversial opinion but I think rm's English and leadership was a lot better years ago. I never thought he was a good leader or spokesman for the group, but he's gotten worse. This was his ending speech at the concert...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464965756492210189

I could barely understand or keep up with what he was saying. I think he stopped studying English and it shows. He's also trying way too hard to be cool and it's messing with his pronunciation. When he said that awkward "g0dd@mn" I cringed.

The other members are sounding better than him these days. Jk's pronunciation here was excellent. I've said before he speaks the best.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465169241766719492

I just don't know how much he really knows and understands since everything's scripted. I also noticed even t*e's pronunciation has improved greatly. Jhpe as well.
BUT it's not enough! Their company failed them by not giving them language and vocal coaches early on. Even SM artists get that. Rm honestly makes them look arrogant and desperate. Not a good look. I don't think they will win a Grammy. Their music is trash now.

its such a shame...dont kill me but i love rm's english accent, it really fits him.
and im shocked, why didnt jungkook sing like how he talked here in ptd? wouldve saved that song.

 

[Kimiko]

This might be a controversial opinion but I think rm's English and leadership was a lot better years ago. I never thought he was a good leader or spokesman for the group, but he's gotten worse. This was his ending speech at the concert...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464965756492210189

I could barely understand or keep up with what he was saying. I think he stopped studying English and it shows. He's also trying way too hard to be cool and it's messing with his pronunciation. When he said that awkward "g0dd@mn" I cringed.

The other members are sounding better than him these days. Jk's pronunciation here was excellent. I've said before he speaks the best.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465169241766719492

I just don't know how much he really knows and understands since everything's scripted. I also noticed even t*e's pronunciation has improved greatly. Jhpe as well.
BUT it's not enough! Their company failed them by not giving them language and vocal coaches early on. Even SM artists get that. Rm honestly makes them look arrogant and desperate. Not a good look. I don't think they will win a Grammy. Their music is trash now.

Hibe should push txt in the west,keep making the songs they make but in english (except for Magic I didnt care for that) and they all speak pretty good english and are younger and all rounders unlike btss, where only three out of seven can dance/three out of seven can rap/one out of seven can carry a decent note

so why not push txt since btss is getting older and their fans will eventually look for younger boy group to stan so why not let it be your other boy group

Like what lou pearlman did when he created bsb and then turned around and created their one and only competition nsync

 

[Luisy]

@boti why are you deleting your posts one by one? Is everything ok? You were gone for months and now you deleted 1000 posts? What happened?

 

[Kimiko]

I read before that yn has many songs that hibe rejects so he just sells them to other artists

When they disband he will have a songwriting career ,rmm too

It's a shame that with the talent they have they are content with the shitty songs written by others that was probably a throwaway song for western artists

Yn and jimn play piano so why not incorporate your talent into your music...maybe if they put their heart into it they could come up with a grammy worthy,ear worthy song
He plays really well

 

[e-Enoch]

Wooow,thank you so much for your answer,I really love it,and the words that the good music make feels better about yourself and others,and uplifts the soul is very enlighting (in a good way)♡♡Unfortunately I had a narcissist ex boyfriend,and I still managing to overcome all the trauma,pain,suffering.In these days i am reflecting,and some things make me have doubts ,I will take care of your suggestions♡

You're welcome! Always take good care.

 

[cadiz]

BTS leader says he feels 'invisible wall' for Korean artists

RM, leader of the K-pop sensation BTS, said Sunday (US time) he felt there is an "invisible wall" for Korean artists despite the group's back-to-back success in the global music industry. The remark was seen as referring to the group's failure to win nomination for the top four Grammys despite...

m.koreaherald.com

i don't think being korean is the reason

the problem is that they are boyband. And nobody takes boybands seriously as artists
1D were a group of 90% white guys and they never got a Grammy nomination

BT-S are confusing having a big fandom with being an artist respected for their music

they literally so obsessed to win a Grammy omg

they see it as an escape from military

 

[Luisy]

@boti why are you deleting your posts one by one? Is everything ok? You were gone for months and now you deleted 1000 posts? What happened?

@boti any problem?

 

[Kimiko]

True. I still think their odd distant behavior is because Meg is black. They weren't like that with Halsey who is mixed but looks like a white woman. They wouldn't even acknowledge or look at Meg. From what I could see the only one that did was jk. It was weird to say the least.
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I told yall that jk is an equal opportunity kind of guy, he really was the only one making eye contact and smiling at megan

He is the least racist member of the group imo and he always said he likes tall girls

He was smiling and giggling again around her,hopefully he made her at ease since no one else was really trying




But they were definitely more hands on and familiar with halsey and I'm pretty sure race is a factor

 

[e-Enoch]

I read before that yn has many songs that hibe rejects so he just sells them to other artists

When they disband he will have a songwriting career ,rmm too

It's a shame that with the talent they have they are content with the shitty songs written by others that was probably a throwaway song for western artists

Yn and jimn play piano so why not incorporate your talent into your music...maybe if they put their heart into it they could come up with a grammy worthy,ear worthy song
He plays really well

Oh, this is lovely... Suga has the depth & soul of a musician...he certainly has the gift...

For someone like him who has "suffered for his art" and has gone through the valleys of creativity...

...he will have mountaintops of successes...even when he climbs alone...Great job, Suga!

 

[Berrywon88]

why didnt jungkook sing like how he talked here in ptd? wouldve saved that song.

Ptd was a travesty, I don't think anything would have saved it lol! I have no idea
what happened with jk in that song esp the intro. He normally sings in English very clearly.

 

[Kimiko]

This woman kept jk attention and apparently he has noticed her before....I bet he hit after the show

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465063060976984067

 

[Fujiko]

Is this the youtuber that you talked?She had also Yn and Hobi bottles and images of V,not only Jk.Also she is Ta3min's stan

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465271332833161221

About jm i found this tweet when he watched the fans,and blow a kiss,but I can't find the original tweet

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465225823368228866

 

[e-Enoch]

Pigtails, really?! Pigtails?? This mf is so embarrassing! If I was still a fan of his I would have to unstan immediately.
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Seokjinnie!!! Please STOB IT!

Your "pig tales" might make the SK Defense Committee revoke your military service postponement!

They'll get you enlisted immediately upon landing at Incheon!!!

 

[Kimiko]

T@e keeps dancing with the backup singers and I admit it's pretty cute

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465188591097692172

he danced with them on nights one and two

 

[Berrywon88]

I told yall that jk is an equal opportunity kind of guy, he really was the only one making eye contact and smiling at megan

He is the least racist member of the group imo and he always said he likes tall girls

He was smiling and giggling again around her,hopefully he made her at ease since no one else was really trying




But they were definitely more hands on and familiar with halsey and I'm pretty sure race is a factor

I'm glad jk was nice with her cause it looked like meg was feeling really uncomfortable. He smiled at her several times which probably made her feel better. I don't like Meg's music or anything but she's always seemed friendly and b*s kind of gave her the cold shoulder. They certainly didn't do that to Halsey. I see the difference. And I agree with you, jk doesn't seem to care much about race or looks like the rest of them do. He's shy but the most friendly with people outside the group, except with C0rden, so I know something happened there.

 

[Luisy]

@boti any problem?

it's weird she stopped deleting. If anyone couldn't check that she indeed was deleting post, check her post number....





She deleted her all posts from her thread and now the page number has reduced to 124 from 203. Many posts from this thread are also deleted

Entertainment x BTS x Politics x EXPOSED

boti

vigilantcitizenforums.com

I asked some questions about her on her thread. You can find that under my messages option.


it's been 1 hour already when I first mentioned her and from then the post number is stuck to 116


it's weird after mentioning her she is gone again and stopped deleting. It seems like she wanted delete everything as long as noone catches her.

 

[Berrywon88]

This woman kept jk attention and apparently he has noticed her before....I bet he hit after the show

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465063060976984067

International playboy indeed! Hahaha let me stop! But he looked directly at her, nodded and smiled. Wouldn't be surprised if she got to go backstage after the show.

 

[Berrywon88]

Seokjinnie!!! Please STOB IT!

Your "pig tales" might make the SK Defense Committee revoke your military service postponement!

They'll get you enlisted immediately upon landing at Incheon!!!

Lmao!

 

[e-Enoch]

Yup, I saw and I agree. Like where you looking jk?View attachment 65885
And dude was cheesin...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465233053425577984

Meg is such a gorgeous woman! And the lingerie-ish outfit is making the boys "nervous..." Hahaha! Can't blame Jk for staring... lol!

Lots of "temptations" surround them...especially these days...I hope they stay "prudent" if they can... it's for their own good esp when it's time to go back home...