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How do you understand if an emotion that you feel is true?
Music for example could give for a moment some feelings,but feeling emotions could be used by someone to manipulate,that's what narcissistic people do...
So in a world full of fakeness how you could understand if the emotions that you feel are healthy?By the fruits that they will have?In some reality shows for example they use the emotions to make you feel empathy for the contestants telling their tragic stories.So even if this person is a**hole you change opinion or you can't be objective as before.Emotions are used as weapons. How you could distinguish the genuine emotions from these kind of manipulation of emotions like they use in reality shows or others TV shows?
Sorry for derail the thread with this question
 
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cadiz said:
welp while other guys his age are serving their country in the army he is doing this

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465196321535500300
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He is creepy,not cute he was doing the creepy "red light green light" squid game doll ,eww.
The song is like a mockery,the flower is blooming,mugunghwa is a white flower who represents korea,so they use something like a white flower who represents innocence,and then the scenario turns in something creepy and evil,and they shot people.
 
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Laura755y said:
I dnt believe the fans associating things with them tbh, we already know that their is paid fans, and or staffs posting on social media, what if those staff/paid fans, were the one spreading the animal shit associated with each member, its the same when they said that V aka tae was the one changing from i love you to " i purple you" when in fact he didnt, and then we figured out that purple is a color associated with alluration, and magic... also there was q clip of tae saying(fezr the double bunny
..) and bunny is also satan name,.. its just all planned and im 100% that the animal thing is included in the plan, i dnt believe for one sec that they will let something like this in fans hand .
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Yes, H*be even secured a copyright for "borahae" ("i purple you")...

Next thing we know they'll secure a copyright also for "world wide handsome..." hahaha!
 
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Fujiko said:
How do you understand if an emotion that you feel is true?
Music for example could give for a moment some feelings,but feeling emotions could be used by someone to manipulate,that's what narcissistic people do...
So in a world full of fakeness how you could understand if the emotions that you feel are healthy?By the fruits that they will have?In some reality shows for example they use the emotions to make you feel empathy for the contestants telling their tragic stories.So even if this person is a**hole you change opinion or you can't be objective as before.Emotions are used as weapons. How you could distinguish the genuine emotions from these kind of manipulation of emotions like they use in reality shows or others TV shows?
Sorry for derail the thread with this question
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Tbh, i dont think anyone could do so, distinguishing the genuine emotions is almost impossible, the only emotion that you can see clearly in someones face is pure disgust, or anger, u can fake a smile a laught, even hapiness, but anger and disgust no matter how good someone is at acting it'll always show on its face. And u're right emotions are indeed weapon, but a person should always think about morals, like u said if someone is an asshole but they show him as a victim for example, u should put in mind that even if his past was bad its not an excuse for whatever shit that person does/did. And always put in mind that not everything they say is true/lie.
 
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e-Enoch said:
Competing with the "more established Western artists" is realistically a tough one... It would be practical for them to improve also on their English songs and speech... sheer size of fandom is not enough...
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They're too old, competing in a different market they don't speak the language of, and facing homophobic attitudes. That's an uphill road.
 
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The performance with Megan was cute tbf. They interacted with her nicely and the hyungs and jk were cheesing lol. It was nice that it wasn't tacky honestly, sometimes it's refreshing not to watch people twerking all over each other. She doesn't need the additional racism if she got too close to one of them. She looked very overwhelmed though and I hated her outfit lol.

Also that YouTuber that went viral for jk staring at her in 2019 concert got another video of him in her area looking at her and playing it up and smiling a few times, jimin blew her a big smile and kiss and the others were glancing too. She's married but I bet for sure she's been called back to the hotels, no such thing as coincidence lol.
 
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cadiz said:
they are probably terrified of interacting with a woman in front of their fans

they know most fans there want to see gay fanservice between them and not interactions with other females
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True. I still think their odd distant behavior is because Meg is black. They weren't like that with Halsey who is mixed but looks like a white woman. They wouldn't even acknowledge or look at Meg. From what I could see the only one that did was jk. It was weird to say the least.
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Fujiko said:
How do you understand if an emotion that you feel is true?
Music for example could give for a moment some feelings,but feeling emotions could be used by someone to manipulate,that's what narcissistic people do...
So in a world full of fakeness how you could understand if the emotions that you feel are healthy?By the fruits that they will have?In some reality shows for example they use the emotions to make you feel empathy for the contestants telling their tragic stories.So even if this person is a**hole you change opinion or you can't be objective as before.Emotions are used as weapons. How you could distinguish the genuine emotions from these kind of manipulation of emotions like they use in reality shows or others TV shows?
Sorry for derail the thread with this question
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Managing emotions can be challenging...but practice helps... we need to remember the basic facts:

1. Only the person himself/herself can control his/her emotions. We are ultimately responsible for what we feel.. There's no point in blaming others for how we feel. We need to take charge and not let others use emotions to influence or manipulate us.

2. Guard against people who try to "manipulate" our emotions...avoid toxic people...even our own loved ones... Be like a "gray rock" ... try your best not to react. For example, when they talk negatively, just stay passive...If you can physically stay away, much better...

3. Narcissistic people are toxic... here's how they often manipulate people in cycles:
a. They "love bomb" you at first...showering you with attention, praises, sweetness, and gifts to get your attention and affection;
b. Once they get your complete trust, they start taking you for granted and make you feel unloved;
c. When you start to "complain" they'll blame you for the exact same thing you are complaining about..."gaslighting..."
d. Then when you can't take it anymore, you try to break off and stay away from them..
e. Then they try to win you back by "hoovering" you... saying they miss you...And the cycle starts again by "love bombing" you...

4. Regarding music...listen to the ones that make you feel good and positive about yourself and others.. Good music normally uplifts the soul...

5. Try your best not to get emotionally connected to any reality show...remember, every reality show is just a show... they are designed to manipulate the audiences...

6. Let your mind govern over your emotions...not the other way around...

7. If someone or something makes you a better person, then that can be a good sign...but always give it time...time is a great test...use it.

Overall, you need to pray for God's help and guidance...for only He has your best interest...
 
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e-Enoch said:
Competing with the "more established Western artists" is realistically a tough one... It would be practical for them to improve also on their English songs and speech... sheer size of fandom is not enough...
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And that's exactly what they are depending on -their enormous and insane fanbase but the grammys unlike mama and AMAs fans cant vote them to a win

It hasnt occured to them to make more age appropriate music...pop songs can be fun and good at the same time

Kids bop songs ain't winning grammys
 
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e-Enoch said:
Managing emotions can be challenging...but practice helps... we need to remember the basic facts:

1. Only the person himself/herself can control his/her emotions. We are ultimately responsible for what we feel.. There's no point in blaming others for how we feel. We need to take charge and not let others use emotions to influence or manipulate us.

2. Guard against people who try to "manipulate" our emotions...avoid toxic people...even our own loved ones... Be like a "gray rock" ... try your best not to react. For example, when they talk negatively, just stay passive...If you can physically stay away, much better...

3. Narcissistic people are toxic... here's how they often manipulate people in cycles:
a. They "love bomb" you at first...showering you with attention, praises, sweetness, and gifts to get your attention and affection;
b. Once they get your complete trust, they start taking you for granted and make you feel unloved;
c. When you start to "complain" they'll blame you for the exact same thing you are complaining about..."gaslighting..."
d. Then when you can't take it anymore, you try to break off and stay away from them..
e. Then they try to win you back by "hoovering" you... saying they miss you...And the cycle starts again by "love bombing" you...

4. Regarding music...listen to the ones that make you feel good and positive about yourself and others.. Good music normally uplifts the soul...

5. Try your best not to get emotionally connected to any reality show...remember, every reality show is just a show... they are designed to manipulate the audiences...

6. Let your mind govern over your emotions...not the other way around...

7. If someone or something makes you a better person, then that can be a good sign...but always give it time...time is a great test...use it.

Overall, you need to pray for God's help and guidance...for only He has your best interest...
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Wooow,thank you so much for your answer,I really love it,and the words that the good music make feels better about yourself and others,and uplifts the soul is very enlighting (in a good way)♡♡Unfortunately I had a narcissist ex boyfriend,and I still managing to overcome all the trauma,pain,suffering.In these days i am reflecting,and some things make me have doubts ,I will take care of your suggestions♡
 
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e-Enoch said:
Competing with the "more established Western artists" is realistically a tough one... It would be practical for them to improve also on their English songs and speech... sheer size of fandom is not enough...
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This might be a controversial opinion but I think rm's English and leadership was a lot better years ago. I never thought he was a good leader or spokesman for the group, but he's gotten worse. This was his ending speech at the concert...
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464965756492210189
I could barely understand or keep up with what he was saying. I think he stopped studying English and it shows. He's also trying way too hard to be cool and it's messing with his pronunciation. When he said that awkward "g0dd@mn" I cringed.

The other members are sounding better than him these days. Jk's pronunciation here was excellent. I've said before he speaks the best.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465169241766719492
I just don't know how much he really knows and understands since everything's scripted. I also noticed even t*e's pronunciation has improved greatly. Jhpe as well.
BUT it's not enough! Their company failed them by not giving them language and vocal coaches early on. Even SM artists get that. Rm honestly makes them look arrogant and desperate. Not a good look. I don't think they will win a Grammy. Their music is trash now.
 
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Berrywon88 said:
This might be a controversial opinion but I think rm's English and leadership was a lot better years ago. I never thought he was a good leader or spokesman for the group, but he's gotten worse. This was his ending speech at the concert...
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464965756492210189
I could barely understand or keep up with what he was saying. I think he stopped studying English and it shows. He's also trying way too hard to be cool and it's messing with his pronunciation. When he said that awkward "g0dd@mn" I cringed.

The other members are sounding better than him these days. Jk's pronunciation here was excellent. I've said before he speaks the best.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465169241766719492
I just don't know how much he really knows and understands since everything's scripted. I also noticed even t*e's pronunciation has improved greatly. Jhpe as well.
BUT it's not enough! Their company failed them by not giving them language and vocal coaches early on. Even SM artists get that. Rm honestly makes them look arrogant and desperate. Not a good look. I don't think they will win a Grammy. Their music is trash now.
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its such a shame...dont kill me but i love rm's english accent, it really fits him.
and im shocked, why didnt jungkook sing like how he talked here in ptd? wouldve saved that song.
 
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Berrywon88 said:
This might be a controversial opinion but I think rm's English and leadership was a lot better years ago. I never thought he was a good leader or spokesman for the group, but he's gotten worse. This was his ending speech at the concert...
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464965756492210189
I could barely understand or keep up with what he was saying. I think he stopped studying English and it shows. He's also trying way too hard to be cool and it's messing with his pronunciation. When he said that awkward "g0dd@mn" I cringed.

The other members are sounding better than him these days. Jk's pronunciation here was excellent. I've said before he speaks the best.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1465169241766719492
I just don't know how much he really knows and understands since everything's scripted. I also noticed even t*e's pronunciation has improved greatly. Jhpe as well.
BUT it's not enough! Their company failed them by not giving them language and vocal coaches early on. Even SM artists get that. Rm honestly makes them look arrogant and desperate. Not a good look. I don't think they will win a Grammy. Their music is trash now.
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Hibe should push txt in the west,keep making the songs they make but in english (except for Magic I didnt care for that) and they all speak pretty good english and are younger and all rounders unlike btss, where only three out of seven can dance/three out of seven can rap/one out of seven can carry a decent note

so why not push txt since btss is getting older and their fans will eventually look for younger boy group to stan so why not let it be your other boy group

Like what lou pearlman did when he created bsb and then turned around and created their one and only competition nsync
 
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