Entertainment x BTS x Politics x EXPOSED

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This is a thread about the Entertainment World, BTS, politics, being approached from the perspective of speculations in regards to their relation with

Freemasonry
NWO
WHO
United Nations
Elite
Rothschild
Soros/Gates/Clinton/Obama/Geffen
Depopulation
BigHit
Bang Si-Hyuk
Rituals
Conspiracies
Gay Mafia
p***philia
Homosexuality
Cannibalism

as well as personal aspects of their life.

All kinds of discussions in relation to them, as well as the entertainment world from a critical point of view, are welcomed.

Please do not post in this thread if you have no knowledge about the subjects offered, feel that you are emotionally too attached to BTS in order to be able to be objective, do not post in here to promote p***philia, homosexuality and other mental diseases.
Please do not post in here for the sole purpose of disturbing the conversation.

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My first post will be their newest collaboration with Hyundai (climate change propaganda because yes, the elite loves the climate change agenda and the bullying attacks as well as many other aspects associated to it)
bringing the Freemasonry symbols from their past - Blood, Sweat and Tears.

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/05/btss-next-collaboration-good-is-a-stylish-clothing-line-with-handsome-corporation-inspired-by-blood-sweat-tears

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BTS's next collaboration good is a stylish clothing line with 'Handsome Corporation' inspired by 'Blood, Sweat & Tears'
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'Hyundai Shopping Mall's casual fashion brand 'Handsome Corporation' is next to collaborate with the boys of BTS, for a stylish, trendy new clothing line titled 'BTS | SYSTEM'!
The first line of 'BTS | SYSTEM' products is inspired by BTS's hit title track "Blood, Sweat & Tears". The line includes t-shirts, dresses, hoodies, caps, accessories, and more for a total of 25 different unique items, all taking motifs from the MV to "Blood, Sweat & Tears". The goods will be available via the 'Weverse Shop' as well as via a special website for 'Handsome Corporation' x 'BTS | SYSTEM'.
'BTS | SYSTEM' will be available via 'Weverse Shop' starting this May 15, and on 'Handsome Corporation's special collaboration website starting May 18. Make sure to also stay tuned for unique collaboration promotional contents, coming soon!1589244540-20200512-091604.jpg1589244540-20200512-091608.jpg1589244540-20200512-091611.jpg1589244540-20200512-091614.jpg1589244540-20200512-091617.jpg1589244540-20200512-091623.jpg
 






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This is a thread about BTS, being approached from the perspective of speculations in regards to their relation with
What do you mean by approaching it from a different perspective?

As you are already aware the BoTS thread is still going strong and so far BTS have been studied, scrutinised, dissected, de-coded, investigated, discussed, debated, exposed, occulted, labelled, connected, rebuked, idolized, criticized, illuminated, criminalised, categorised, stigmatised, crucified and every other word ending in ised!!!!

What possible other perspective can there possibly be over one SINGLE band ffs!?!?
 






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What do you mean by approaching it from a different perspective?

As you are already aware the BoTS thread is still going strong and so far BTS have been studied, scrutinised, dissected, de-coded, investigated, discussed, debated, exposed, occulted, labelled, connected, rebuked, idolized, criticized, illuminated, criminalised, categorised, stigmatised, crucified and every other word ending in ised!!!!

What possible other perspective can there possibly be over one SINGLE band ffs!?!?
Since you are already aware that I am aware of the other thread, there is no need to explain the difference.

I opened an all around BTS exposed thread, which doesn't focus only on Freemasonry and symbol analysis.

Please read the description of this thread, no need for attacks if you don't wish to participate, don't.
 






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No wonder that Hyundai partnered with the “dear” United Nations who are being funded by the worst organizations with their own agenda in running and controlling the globe.


Australia PM adviser says climate change is 'UN-led ruse to establish new world order' | Multipolar World Institute
By Jonathan Pearlman, Sydney 2:39PM BST 08 May 2015

Maurice Newman, the chief business adviser to the prime minister, said the science showing links between human activity and the warming climate was wrong but was being used as a “hook” by the UN to expand its global control.
“This is not about facts or logic. It’s about a new world order under the control of the UN,” he wrote in The Australian
“It is opposed to capitalism and freedom and has made environmental catastrophism a household topic to achieve its objective.” Born in Ilford, England, and educated in Australia, Mr Newman, a staunch conservative and former chairman of the Australian Stock Exchange, has long been an outspoken critic of climate change science.
He was appointed chairman of the government’s business advisory council by Mr Abbott, who himself is something of a climate change sceptic and once famously described climate change as “absolute cr**” – a comment he later recanted.
In his comment piece – described by critics as “whacko” – Mr Newman said the world has been “subjected to extravagance from climate catastrophists for close to 50 years”.
“It’s a well-kept secret, but 95 per cent of the climate models we are told prove the link between human CO2 emissions and catastrophic global warming have been found, after nearly two decades of temperature stasis, to be in error,” he wrote.
“The real agenda is concentrated political authority. Global warming is the hook. Eco-catastrophists [ …] have captured the UN and are extremely well funded. They have a hugely powerful ally in the White House.”
Environmental groups and scientists described Mr Newman as a ‘crazed’ conspiracy theorist and some called on him to resign.
“His anti-science, fringe views are indistinguishable from those made by angry trolls on conspiracy theory forums,” said the Climate Change Council.
Professor Will Steffen, a climate change scientist, told The Australian Financial Review: “These are bizarre comments that would be funny if they did not come from [Mr Abbott’s] chief business adviser.” Mr Abbott’s office did not respond but his environment minister said he did not agree with Mr Newman’s comments.
The article was written by Mr Newman to coincide with a visit by Christiana Figueres, the UN climate change negotiation, who has urged Australia to reduce its reliance on coal. Australia is one of the world’s biggest emitters of carbon emissions per capita.
Since his election in 2013, Mr Abbott has abolished Labor’s carbon tax, scaled back renewable energy targets and appointed sceptics to several significant government positions.



 






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Mattel, who has partnered with BTS for their dolls is an other company associated with the NWO/Elite/Gay Mafia. And one of their most important tool of propaganda since it is a monopole when it comes to toys worldwide.

The makers of Barbie have introduced the new gender dysphoric Barbies, or as the Satan’s worshipers are calling it “gender-neutral/transsexual” dolls.

Additionally Mattel released, without parental warning, Barbie cartoons where the female Barbie calls herself “Benjamin”.

One of my friend was shocked to catch the scene from her kitchen while she thought her children would be safe watching Barbie cartoons.

Voices of mothers have been completely ignored, scrutinized, terrorized and vilified.

They have been classified as a “hate group”.
We are talking about mental diseases in here. Gender dysphoria, homosexuality.

We are talking about a gay agenda and a satanic one, as their Gods are both male and female.

We are talking about medicine, early sexualization of children, decriminalization of p***philia through all possible means.

At least put a warning, don’t pack the doll on plain sight and write: this cartoon and these toys are depicting gender dysphoria. A mental disease affecting gay people.

In order to purchase the toy or watch the cartoon you must be at least 18 years old.

https://www.advocate.com/business/2019/10/02/one-millions-moms-mattels-gender-inclusive-dolls-promote-sin



One Million Moms: Mattel's Gender-Inclusive Dolls Promote 'Sin'

Tracy E. Gilchrist



October 02 2019 2:31 PM EDT



The virulently anti-LGBTQ group One Million Moms’ latest target is Mattel’s line of Creatable World dolls, which are aimed at making play more inclusive for all kids.

“Mattel has actually created a toy that glorifies gender inclusivity and ignores one’s biological sex. Calling 'gender' a label is the same as saying that being a male or female is no different than being tall or short,” One Million Moms writes in a petition demanding Mattel discontinue its recently announced line of dolls.

The Creatable World line consists of six customizable kits that include long and short hair options and clothes and accessory options that run the gamut of having traditionally been associated with feminine and masculine looks.

“Creatable World gives kids a blank canvas to create their own characters. Switch long hair for short hair – add a skirt, pants, or both. It’s up to you! Mix and match, swap or share,” the Mattel website reads.

“Toys are a reflection of culture, and as the world continues to celebrate the positive impact of inclusivity, we felt it was time to create a doll line free of labels,” said Senior Vice President of Mattel Fashion Doll Design Kim Culmone, said in a statement.

But One Million Moms views the dolls as an existential threat to society. The petition reads:

“Mattel is confusing our innocent children by attempting to destroy very definitive gender lines. Why can’t the toy manufacturer let kids be who God created them to be instead of glamorizing a sinful lifestyle? The gender inclusive dolls are the most ridiculous toys 1MM has seen in a while.”

“Mattel is following a trend to desensitize America by telling children they can be whatever gender they want to be. This irresponsible line of toys is dangerous to the well-being of our children. Mattel should avoid aiming to please a small percentage of customers while pushing away conservative customers who hold to the age-old truth that a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl.”

This year alone, One Million Moms has protested the existence of a possible lesbian couple in Toy Story 4, Whole Foods for hosting a drag story hour, Arthur for featuring a cartoon rat’s wedding to a male aardvark, and a Parentsmagazine cover featuring gay dads.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, a progressive organization that monitors bigotry, classifies the American Family Association, One Million Moms’ parent organization, as a hate group for the misleading information it spreads about LGBTQ people. The Million Moms group has a history of objecting to LGBTQ-inclusive media and advertising.




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Yet, it wasn’t enough for the gay propaganda, earlier sexualization of children.

One men suffering from gender dysphoria was not satisfied with the body of the dolls because the body isn’t showing genitalia.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/slate-new-gender-neutral-barbie

Transgender writer for Slate: New gender-neutral Barbie dolls are too ‘playful,’ do not go far enough in ‘deconstructing the gender binary’

Still not woke enough



In an op-ed for Slate Magazine, a transgender writer criticized toymaker Mattel's line of "gender-neutral" Barbie dolls, saying they are too "playful" and do not go nearly far enough in "deconstructing the gender binary."

Alex Myers, "a transgender guy who's spoken to young people about gender for nearly 25 years," characterized himself as "deeply skeptical" of what the line of dolls, which was launched in September,is actually communicating.

"On a basic level, the doll falls far short of actually embodying or even representing a nonbinary identity," Myers informed his audience. "'Gender-neutral,' the term Mattel uses in its marketing of the doll, is not, in fact, a term that many — any? — people use to describe themselves. They use 'gender-fluid,' or genderqueer, or nonbinary, or nonconforming."

"If you move past that, you get to the body," where, Myers says, "we have … nothing."

"The bodily blankness," he argues, "erases so much of what the discussions — personal and political — about gender focus on. These dolls do not have bodies that are like ours; these dolls do not have bodies that society reads in a gendered way at all. That sort of misses the entire point."



This begs the question: Does Myers want children's' toys to have genitalia? Altered genitalia? What indicators of gender would he like to see included for the dolls to more accurately express what it is like to be nonbinary?


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Mattel has conducted a gay propaganda on children already 3 years ago

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/nov/29/barbie-comes-out-in-support-of-same-sex-marriage
 






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The Corporate Support for the LGBT Agenda is a UN War on Christianity and Morality

https://wakethechurch.org/articles-old/id/10926/the-corporate-support-for-the-lgbt-agenda-is-a-un-war-on-christianity-and-morality

By Jason Charles | Wake the Church | April 12, 216
LGBT Social Engineering

Flashback to the Spring of 2015, in the lead up to the Supreme Court decision that legalized gay-marriage in the U.S., we saw corporations by the droves began to air LGBT friendly television, radio and print ads all aimed at pushing the supreme court to support gay-marriage. You can see a small snapshot of just some of the numerous gay-friendly ads that were produced during this time in support of the decision that happened in late July of 2015. In what was undoubtedly a coordinated Obama Admin propaganda campaign hundreds of corporations all "came out" of the political closet in support of gay-marriage. The Obama administration's involvement in this propaganda push was well documented pointing to Valerie Jarret as the corporate handler and operative behind this push last year.
"Three weeks ago, Jarrett’s aide Aditi Hardikar, the LGBT liaison in the White House Office of Public Engagement, suggested they illuminate the White House with a rainbow if the Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage. Working with the first lady’s chief of staff, Tina Tchen, Jarrett and her aides consulted with the National Park Service and U.S. Secret Service and got gay rights organizations to underwrite it so it did not cost the taxpayers money.
The president accepted the idea matter-of-factly when Jarrett raised it. “It’s a great idea if you can get it to work,” she recalled him saying. " (Washington Post)
This editorial sound-bite "a great idea if you can get it to work" supposedly uttered by Obama is as contrived as the gay-marriage campaign itself these last few years. Though Jarrett's attempts to downplay the "suggestion" as spur of the moment ideas as noted by the Post, it was anything but. The fact is this is an extremely complex endeavor to organize support from over 379 gay-friendly mega-corporations that agree to simultaneously produce very elaborate, multi-million dollar advertising spots. It is obviously a huge undertaking to garner the coordinated support of gay-rights organizations to fund the rainbow lighting on the Whitehouse property as mentioned above. Then on top of all that, the ability to push the SCOTUS to issue a ruling during "Pride Week" and on the two-year anniversary of the court's ruling that struck down part of the Defense of Marriage Act is unprecedented. The magnitude of this accomplishment should have even the most ardent supporters of the "gay-marriage" agenda sitting up and pondering just what possible hidden-agenda is behind such a coordinated effort.
If you simply look at it from a money point of view, all of this cost 100's of millions of dollars to finance, and must of took thousands of phone-calls to corporate heads all across the country to get corporations to sign on to this plan. The rise of the LGBT political and corporate power-base is vastly superior to anything the Obama admin could dream up, they simply are just not that sophisticated of thought to solely organize this push. It had to of come from someplace higher up.

Who is Really Behind the LGBT Monster?
The push to embolden the LGBT agenda mainly in the U.S. through the SCOTUS ruling is unmistakably a UN agenda. If you recall September of 2014, The United Nations Human Rights Council adopted a resolution in support of LGBT rights.
"The action, which passed by a 25-14 vote margin after more than an hour of debate, condemns violence and discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity across the globe.
“We are pleased to see that today the international community is visibly and publicly upholding the rights of LGBT individuals, and thereby we demonstrate ourselves as a global community respecting the rights of all,” said Ambassador Keith Harper, who represents the U.S. on the U.N. Human Rights Council. " (MSNBC)
In addition a UN budget committee in March 27 also gave UN employees in same-sex unions special benefits,
"In an animated and unusually packed budget meeting this week, UN member states gave the go ahead to special benefits for any UN staff in same-sex legal arrangements.
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Sources say the result of the vote should not be seen as a global show of support for LGBT rights as much as proof of the complete domination of wealthy donor countries on the UN budget and administrative issues. The result furthers the perception that member states that don’t share the social agenda of wealthy donor states have less buy-in in the system.
Even among those 80 countries that voted with the Secretary General, at least half of them do not afford same-sex couples special benefits in their national laws. Marriage between a man and a woman remains the norm in the vast majority of countries in the world and no more than 40 countries around the world afford special benefits to same-sex couples through laws that sanction so-called “gay marriage” or civil unions. Even in Europe few countries sanction such arrangements without qualification." (Life Site News)
As proof that this is an international conspiracy by the UN and power elite to push the LBGT agenda simply look at the outrage sparked by this McDonalds commercial in Taiwan featuring a son coming out to his father as "liking boys" at McDonalds.
"Religious groups in Taiwan are calling for a boycott of McDonald’s after the fast food giant premiered a commercial they say promotes “gay issues.”
The minute-and-a-half ad features a boy coming out to his father by writing, “I like boys” on a McCafe coffee cup and sliding it across the table." (Fox News)

As noted in the above article, this McDonald's ad sparked major controversy in Taiwan by religious groups in the same way it has here in America. Business ethics and simple common-sense tells us large corporations should not weigh in on political issues for the simple reason it could negatively impact their bottom-line as large people groups boycott their products. So what exactly is the incentive for companies to actually engage in this highly controversial subject when traditionally corporations never, ever engage in social issues of any sort! The answer will shock you.

A Seat at the Table
The real reason these corporations have become social attack dogs on controversial issues such as gay-marriage is because it is a globalist agenda and they are pandering for international favor, but what is more is they are also being given political power. This report in Fortune demonstrates how corporations that engage in this issues are being given "influential seat at the political roundtable" as quoted,
"As conservative legislatures in Southern states continue to plow ahead in the battle pitting religious freedom against LGBT-rights, mega-corporations like DIS -0.16% Disney, KO -0.92% Coca-Cola, and FB -1.48% Facebook have earned an influential seat at the political roundtable. Earlier this week, Georgia Governor Nathan Deal vetoed a far-reaching religious freedom bill after facing pressure from these and other corporations threatening to pull their business out of the state.
North Carolina received similar scrutiny after passing House Bill 2, a sweeping religious freedom bill that essentially prohibits municipalities from passing LGBT-protective laws. The Charlotte-based Bank of America, Apple, and 80 other CEOs and business leaders signed onto a letter demanding that North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory repeal the controversial law." (Fortune)
This favored status offered by the political elite, encouraging corporations to go on the attack against any state promoting religious freedom bills has reached a climax. Back in 2013, Rhamn Emanuel, Mayor of Chicago and former Obama adviser was quoted as saying, the "Gays are the next Jews of fundraising", meaning there is big money available for anyone pushing the "Homosexual" debate in America and now everyone is attempting to cash in as this prediction by the Obama insider, Rham Emanuel comes to fruition. Whether you are talking politicians issuing travel bans, about musicians like Bryan Adams and Bruce Springsteen boycotting Religious Freedom states recently like Georgia, Mississippi and North Carolina, or companies like Disney who are saying they will not film in these states, it seems everybody wants a piece of the political and monetary favors being offered up by the Obama administration.
The two things we have to note in all of this is obviously it is a horrendous trend to allow mega-corps to weigh in on social issues such as gay-marriage, but what is more is the fact that corporations that target children almost exclusively in their marketing and products are promoting deviant sexual practices when pushing the LGBT agenda.

Totally Inappropriate Corporate America
The most disgusting aspect of all this is how little discretion these companies really have. For example Disney and Marvel who create movies that are predominately geared towards children in both their marketing and also their merchandising have been some of the most vocal in their advocacy for LGBT causes, even to the point of threatening state governors if they do not veto bills dealing with Religious Freedom. AV Club writes,
"Disney and Marvel have constructed a lot of their superhero universe in Georgia. However, on the grounds that the bill would have legalized discrimination against members of the LGBT community, the companies claimed to be ready to move productions like Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 2 and Avengers: Infinity War to another state that looks good while exploding. Other organizations, including the NFL, Live Nation, Time Warner, the Motion Picture Association of America, and AMC Networks—which films The Walking Dead in and around Atlanta—have also publicly opposed the bill.
Upon vetoing the legislation, Governor Deal said in a speech, “I do not think we have to discriminate against anyone to protect the faith-based community in Georgia.” Deal added that the bill “doesn’t reflect the character of our state or the character of its people.” However, he criticized Disney and Marvel’s tactics of threatening to take their Infinity Stones elsewhere, saying:
Some within the business community who oppose this bill have resorted to threats of withdrawing jobs from our state. I do not respond well to insults or threats. The people of Georgia deserve a leader who will made sound judgments based on solid reasons that are not inflamed by emotion." (AV Club)

Fisher-Price another company that deals exclusively with children targeted marketing and products also have not only supported the LGBT agenda, they put up a gallery called "Proud Parenting" that features LGBT couples with their children.
"Fisher Price is sponsoring a new parenting photo gallery, showcasing some of America's three million lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) parents. The company (owned by Mattel, which makes some of America's most iconic toys, including Barbie, Hot Wheels and American Girl) is partnering with Proud Parenting, an online community forum for LGBT parents." (CS Monitor)

Companies that gear their products to children have no business coming out publicly in support of issues of a sexual nature. You would think the preservation of children's innocence would be enough to deter companies from wading into this debate, but that is not the case. Obviously the incentives are to great and companies are lining up at the door.

Conclusion
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. Titus 1:15
The Bible states that to the profane nothing is sacred. This is absolutely true in the case of corporations and politicians banning together to create this false narrative of supposed, universally perceived support of gay-marriage.
Mark my words this whole episode will drastically change the course of politics in America. When corporations are weighing in on controversial social issues for the sole purpose of gaining favor among political elite you know you have entered into a new era of corporate fascism in this country. Obama has used the presidency to organize a campaign that pushes his own personal LGBT value systems onto the military, the public school systems, into the supreme court and into the corporate sectors. This has got to be one of the most vile, disgusting, and heinous uses of executive power ever recorded. The presidency was not intended to be a tool of social engineering by our founding generation. The founding fathers would be appalled at the unethical and morally corruptive behavior these corporations are engaging in, and there is no way they would have stood for it either. Yet no where do I see churches or anyone calling for boycotts of any of the 379+ companies that have publicly taken up the LGBT cause. The corporate persecution of legislative efforts is a direct threat and offense to the sovereignty of the states. The consequences of letting these corporations run rough-shod all over the political process is truly a Pandora's box of evils just waiting to be loosened on future generations.
The church must organize and call for boycotts of these companies, they only take note to their bottom line and they will continue to engage in this unethical behavior unless it is felt in their pocketbook. This is the only way in stopping what can be one of the most horrific new trends in this country. Corporations policing and enforcing social justice causes are a globalist tool, and powerful new method of fomenting political correctness and stifling religious liberties in this country.
Preventing states from passing religious liberty bills is without a doubt a persecution tactic looking to destroy the business and reputations of Christians everywhere that refuse services based on their own personal religious sentiments, and amounts to a powerful new front directed at stifling religious decent in this country. In no uncertain terms, it is a U.N. backed, politically driven, massively funded, coordinated war on Christianity in the U.S. and across the globe.
 






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Showing how much they “suffer and sacrifice for army”.
playing the empathy and victim card to create “protective” reactions from their fans (the usual attitude as seen in here) and to imply that the members go through such a tremendous sacrifice and pain for “army” - people they don’t even know.

They present themselves as performers, their only sacrifice should be towards the art, the music.

At least sing live, no playback.
Sacrifice gaming-time in favor of practice.

http://instagr.am/p/CAF3IkkJB5A/
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The issue with BTS/Mattel collaboration is that fans, mostly children and underage girls and boys, will be exposed to the rest of their toys, including the gender dysphoric ones and they are already promoting the gay agenda constantly.
This is what judges nowadays, who should be mentally sane while making decisions, are deciding:

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NETFLIX

Perfectly timed with BTS’s sudden rise to fame in America which is to be tracked back to their new gay approach and sudden gay propaganda (after 4 years of misogynists, sexists lyrics and tweets), on April 2017 Netflix added their 2015 Dream Concert to their video library:
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The mentioned cartoon with female Barbie “Benjamin” was streamed on Netflix who has become the no1 leftist gay propaganda tool, who have as early as two years ago streamed child porn:

Netflix is under investigation for allowing what could be considered child porn on its streaming site.

The Argentinian film “Desire” is the movie in question because it includes a graphic scene where two underage girls engage in “sexually suggestive behavior.” The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children is currently investigating the movie, according to the Daily Mail.

“Sexually explicit content” does not have to depict “a child engaging in sexual activity,” according to Department of Justice guidelines. The movie could still be considered child pornography if the content meets the threshold of being “sufficiently sexually suggestive.”

The scene shows two young girls, 7 and 9 years old, experimenting sexually by playing “horse” on pillows, reported Faithwire.

PJ Media writer Megan Fox originally reported the film to the FBI, the Department of Justice, and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children Wednesday, and described the scene in question as “graphic and includes an orgasm.”


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Earlier this year, the brazilian Supreme Court has lifted the initial ban and gave Netflix green light to stream a blasphemous movie depicting Jesus as a gay weed-smoker.

 






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Commercial for the Hyundai project
The sculpture is Pietà (meaning pity or compassion) by Michelangelo, his most famous sculpture - Mary holding Jesus after crucification.
It’s a moment of mourning, pain, Mary holding the death body of her crucified son.

Which they mock by having the statue served on a plate next to an empty vine glass - I see it as the devil’s sign of victory for having had his blood sucked out/death.




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https://www.koreaboo.com/news/break-silence-suga-reveals-bts-member-wanted-leave-group-episode-1/

Some quotes from this article:

“We’ve become closer than family, in a way,” Suga explained. “We can put everything else aside, and talk freely about how we can move forward and improve.”

If a member wanted to go off in a different direction, Suga said the other members would try to persuade that member to stay and work things out as a group.

“We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”



1)
members of Freemasonry are calling themselves “brothers” and consider this relation to be of higher and stronger importance than anything else, including family. They turn family members of a “brother” away, if they don’t join the cult.

Similar as Scientology.

2)
They are grown men almost in their 30s, who got stuck together by accident 8 years ago and are firstly forced to get along. It’s not a free choice. And it’s not family.

It’s a weird, forced and imposed upon relation, which was used as marketing to manipulate children and young girls falling for it.

I doubt they can even stand each other with some exceptions based more on a professional respect, rather than real sympathy.

Given the unnatural aspect of the situation as well as the psychological and intellectual issues associated with it (goes for any boyband, not just BTS), the real perception of each other is almost non-existent because it’s of primarily necessity for them to force themselves into liking each other.

It’s what everyone else before them has said and talked about. How they are all family and so strong together.

Then they break up and are happy they aren’t forced anymore to get along.

Their already unnatural behavior of constantly complementing, touching and gazing at each other has become one of the main visual elements of the problematic.

There was a time after the idea of “boybands” started, with Lou Pearlman and Backstreet Boys, that the notion of “boybands are gay” was a thing due to the homosexuality behind it, of young to adult men spending high amounts of time together “freely”, playing the “we are so close” card.

Robbie Williams left Take That saying they are all gay;

Backstreet Boys broke up or took a pause and had a gay member.

It’s the unnaturalness of the concept for a man to be part of a „boyband”, with the stigma of the word being the one of gay young guys with feminine looks touching and playing with each other while young girls, who don’t understand the problematic and the entire agenda behind it, are screaming at their sight.

At their age...no man should speak like a little 5 year old child who’s missing the 3 friends he met on the summer camp.

“We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”

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This quote right here bears so much problematic.

It’s obvious that by now everything is scripted and they have to put up a face most of the time.

The main people in the band already wanted to leave and the group’s initial concept went into a different direction much to Yoongi’s and Hoseok’s dismay.
They are guilting each other into staying in the band after the motto - if I have to do it, then you’ll do it too.

It’s similar to the behavior of abused people turning into abusers.


If a member would want to leave (something which already happened a few times - that people know of publicly), the others would try like they always do, to pressure and to guilt the other person into staying, until they give up.

From blaming the one who wants to leave for the disbanding of the band and financial losses for everyone, to pointing out how much the member who wants to leave is going to be blamed and hated, how he won’t be able to do much outside the band, etc.
I am positive that it’s not just out of fear of disaster that they don’t have girlfriends (whoever is left who’s not gay), or fear of backlash from their obsessive possessive fans.

I can imagine the biggest pressure coming from the each of the members out of envy. Envy for someone in the band having a relation, while they are stuck with each other. So they would use a bullying tactic to blame the member in question because of course, every thing outside the band a member is doing affects all the members.

So they don’t allow each other outside the band to leave free.
If a member would want to leave, Yoongi’s continuation of the sentence should have never been the one of giving away that they would try to persuade him.

After more than 8 years, some of them 10, whoever wants to leave obviously has had enough so persuading would just be the old bullying and pressuring tactic for the other’s benefits, rather than the benefit of the member who wants to leave.

Which is why - every since Yoongi himself got “persuaded” at least twice- after the second time he looked more miserable than ever and has never been the same.

Professionally or personally.

He is obviously on meds and developed multiple ticks.

———
We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”

“because of certain reasons”

So one has have to come up with reasons that can’t be denied even by the rest of the members?

It’s like a medieval voting system?

Otherwise what, Yoongi? If you or others don’t agree, the member in question can’t leave?



If someone would want to leave there will be so much pressure that even if he stays out of guilt, chances are high that the psychological traumatic effects will have a life threatening effect.
 






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One eye symbolism and a moon, he’s not even trying to hide it.
I was hoping for this one to be an old video (as an excuse), but NOOOOOOoooooo. It’s from TODAAAAAAAY.

Why don’t they just call it - Jungkook’s devil’s art class?
Why those hidden tactics?

If you (by you I mean the bosses - BigHit, Bang Si-Hyuk and everyone else involved) REALLY believe in your cult’s good power for humanity and your own, WHY hiding it?
Why not try to persuade people into joining your cult by TRUTHFULLY exposing all the GOOD things associated with it?

Hmm....
 






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https://www.koreaboo.com/news/break-silence-suga-reveals-bts-member-wanted-leave-group-episode-1/

Some quotes from this article:

“We’ve become closer than family, in a way,” Suga explained. “We can put everything else aside, and talk freely about how we can move forward and improve.”

If a member wanted to go off in a different direction, Suga said the other members would try to persuade that member to stay and work things out as a group.

“We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”



1)
members of Freemasonry are calling themselves “brothers” and consider this relation to be of higher and stronger importance than anything else, including family. They turn family members of a “brother” away, if they don’t join the cult.

Similar as Scientology.

2)
They are grown men almost in their 30s, who got stuck together by accident 8 years ago and are firstly forced to get along. It’s not a free choice. And it’s not family.

It’s a weird, forced and imposed upon relation, which was used as marketing to manipulate children and young girls falling for it.

I doubt they can even stand each other with some exceptions based more on a professional respect, rather than real sympathy.

Given the unnatural aspect of the situation as well as the psychological and intellectual issues associated with it (goes for any boyband, not just BTS), the real perception of each other is almost non-existent because it’s of primarily necessity for them to force themselves into liking each other.

It’s what everyone else before them has said and talked about. How they are all family and so strong together.

Then they break up and are happy they aren’t forced anymore to get along.

Their already unnatural behavior of constantly complementing, touching and gazing at each other has become one of the main visual elements of the problematic.

There was a time after the idea of “boybands” started, with Lou Pearlman and Backstreet Boys, that the notion of “boybands are gay” was a thing due to the homosexuality behind it, of young to adult men spending high amounts of time together “freely”, playing the “we are so close” card.

Robbie Williams left Take That saying they are all gay;

Backstreet Boys broke up or took a pause and had a gay member.

It’s the unnaturalness of the concept for a man to be part of a „boyband”, with the stigma of the word being the one of gay young guys with feminine looks touching and playing with each other while young girls, who don’t understand the problematic and the entire agenda behind it, are screaming at their sight.

At their age...no man should speak like a little 5 year old child who’s missing the 3 friends he met on the summer camp.

“We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”

3)
This quote right here bears so much problematic.

It’s obvious that by now everything is scripted and they have to put up a face most of the time.

The main people in the band already wanted to leave and the group’s initial concept went into a different direction much to Yoongi’s and Hoseok’s dismay.
They are guilting each other into staying in the band after the motto - if I have to do it, then you’ll do it too.

It’s similar to the behavior of abused people turning into abusers.


If a member would want to leave (something which already happened a few times - that people know of publicly), the others would try like they always do, to pressure and to guilt the other person into staying, until they give up.

From blaming the one who wants to leave for the disbanding of the band and financial losses for everyone, to pointing out how much the member who wants to leave is going to be blamed and hated, how he won’t be able to do much outside the band, etc.
I am positive that it’s not just out of fear of disaster that they don’t have girlfriends (whoever is left who’s not gay), or fear of backlash from their obsessive possessive fans.

I can imagine the biggest pressure coming from the each of the members out of envy. Envy for someone in the band having a relation, while they are stuck with each other. So they would use a bullying tactic to blame the member in question because of course, every thing outside the band a member is doing affects all the members.

So they don’t allow each other outside the band to leave free.
If a member would want to leave, Yoongi’s continuation of the sentence should have never been the one of giving away that they would try to persuade him.

After more than 8 years, some of them 10, whoever wants to leave obviously has had enough so persuading would just be the old bullying and pressuring tactic for the other’s benefits, rather than the benefit of the member who wants to leave.

Which is why - every since Yoongi himself got “persuaded” at least twice- after the second time he looked more miserable than ever and has never been the same.

Professionally or personally.

He is obviously on meds and developed multiple ticks.

———
We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”

“because of certain reasons”

So one has have to come up with reasons that can’t be denied even by the rest of the members?

It’s like a medieval voting system?

Otherwise what, Yoongi? If you or others don’t agree, the member in question can’t leave?



If someone would want to leave there will be so much pressure that even if he stays out of guilt, chances are high that the psychological traumatic effects will have a life threatening effect.
Very well said.
I’m so curious when they were talking about disbanding in 2018 which of members it was that wanted out.
But I also don’t even know if you just decided you wanted out that you could just leave freely in the industry they’re in? Seems impossible.

And yes if someone didn’t want to be apart of the band anymore saying “we’d try to persuade them to stay” is putting it lightly. I feel like he’s talking about having a full blown argument stating that if we have to suffer so do you kinda thing
It’s true that they also don’t seem as close as it’s being portrayed. I believed for a while that they were all super tight but that’s just not the case. Think of it kinda like co-workers that are forced to be around each other all the time like you said. In a Vlive recently Jimin stated something along the lines of “after this is all over, V is probably gonna be the one who I’m going to continue my friendship with”.
I’m also not saying they hate each other but I can only imagine how much they get on each other’s nerves lol. It’s not all sunshine and rainbows like they make it seem
 






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https://www.koreaboo.com/news/break-silence-suga-reveals-bts-member-wanted-leave-group-episode-1/

Some quotes from this article:

“We’ve become closer than family, in a way,” Suga explained. “We can put everything else aside, and talk freely about how we can move forward and improve.”

If a member wanted to go off in a different direction, Suga said the other members would try to persuade that member to stay and work things out as a group.

“We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”



1)
members of Freemasonry are calling themselves “brothers” and consider this relation to be of higher and stronger importance than anything else, including family. They turn family members of a “brother” away, if they don’t join the cult.

Similar as Scientology.

2)
They are grown men almost in their 30s, who got stuck together by accident 8 years ago and are firstly forced to get along. It’s not a free choice. And it’s not family.

It’s a weird, forced and imposed upon relation, which was used as marketing to manipulate children and young girls falling for it.

I doubt they can even stand each other with some exceptions based more on a professional respect, rather than real sympathy.

Given the unnatural aspect of the situation as well as the psychological and intellectual issues associated with it (goes for any boyband, not just BTS), the real perception of each other is almost non-existent because it’s of primarily necessity for them to force themselves into liking each other.

It’s what everyone else before them has said and talked about. How they are all family and so strong together.

Then they break up and are happy they aren’t forced anymore to get along.

Their already unnatural behavior of constantly complementing, touching and gazing at each other has become one of the main visual elements of the problematic.

There was a time after the idea of “boybands” started, with Lou Pearlman and Backstreet Boys, that the notion of “boybands are gay” was a thing due to the homosexuality behind it, of young to adult men spending high amounts of time together “freely”, playing the “we are so close” card.

Robbie Williams left Take That saying they are all gay;

Backstreet Boys broke up or took a pause and had a gay member.

It’s the unnaturalness of the concept for a man to be part of a „boyband”, with the stigma of the word being the one of gay young guys with feminine looks touching and playing with each other while young girls, who don’t understand the problematic and the entire agenda behind it, are screaming at their sight.

At their age...no man should speak like a little 5 year old child who’s missing the 3 friends he met on the summer camp.

“We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”

3)
This quote right here bears so much problematic.

It’s obvious that by now everything is scripted and they have to put up a face most of the time.

The main people in the band already wanted to leave and the group’s initial concept went into a different direction much to Yoongi’s and Hoseok’s dismay.
They are guilting each other into staying in the band after the motto - if I have to do it, then you’ll do it too.

It’s similar to the behavior of abused people turning into abusers.


If a member would want to leave (something which already happened a few times - that people know of publicly), the others would try like they always do, to pressure and to guilt the other person into staying, until they give up.

From blaming the one who wants to leave for the disbanding of the band and financial losses for everyone, to pointing out how much the member who wants to leave is going to be blamed and hated, how he won’t be able to do much outside the band, etc.
I am positive that it’s not just out of fear of disaster that they don’t have girlfriends (whoever is left who’s not gay), or fear of backlash from their obsessive possessive fans.

I can imagine the biggest pressure coming from the each of the members out of envy. Envy for someone in the band having a relation, while they are stuck with each other. So they would use a bullying tactic to blame the member in question because of course, every thing outside the band a member is doing affects all the members.

So they don’t allow each other outside the band to leave free.
If a member would want to leave, Yoongi’s continuation of the sentence should have never been the one of giving away that they would try to persuade him.

After more than 8 years, some of them 10, whoever wants to leave obviously has had enough so persuading would just be the old bullying and pressuring tactic for the other’s benefits, rather than the benefit of the member who wants to leave.

Which is why - every since Yoongi himself got “persuaded” at least twice- after the second time he looked more miserable than ever and has never been the same.

Professionally or personally.

He is obviously on meds and developed multiple ticks.

———
We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”

“because of certain reasons”

So one has have to come up with reasons that can’t be denied even by the rest of the members?

It’s like a medieval voting system?

Otherwise what, Yoongi? If you or others don’t agree, the member in question can’t leave?



If someone would want to leave there will be so much pressure that even if he stays out of guilt, chances are high that the psychological traumatic effects will have a life threatening effect.
Your thoughts are very interesting. I don't know much about Freemasonry or Scientology, but I agree that his words have a lot of meaning packed into them. (Though I'm also quite curious whether there is anything lost or misunderstood in translation.)
It's also interesting that it could very well be them guilt tripping each other to stay, either because, like you said "if I have to do it, then you’ll do it too ". We can speculate about their relationship with each other all day, but we'll never know the truth. Maybe they're afraid that if one popular member leaves - that will be the end for them, as they'll lose their fame. Maybe you're right and it's out of envy. Again, I don't know, but it deffinitely is an interesting situation.

"If a member wanted to go off in a different direction, Suga said the other members would try to persuade that member to stay and work things out as a group.
We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”


It's interesting that he doesn't say it like "If any of the members struggle, we with respect try to help each other and overcome difficulties". Persuading someone can also mean trying to make someone do what they don't want to. Why did he say "persuade"? And the thing you pointed out about reasons is also very interesting. I don't know what exactly he meant, but it's an interesting point that it could be like a member would have to get consent from other members.

We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”

That whole statement sounds so wrong. You respect each other and THAT'S WHY if someone said they can't do this anymore you of course persuade that person? What reasons are we talking about? Like Jimin having a twisted perception of what he should be and starving and overworking himself almost to death, for example? Like Tae going from a dorky boy interested in singing and art to a young man who is i-cant-even-put-into-words what he's become into? Like he himself having social phobia, thinking he's ugly and untalented and having suicidal thoughts? Does this sound like a healthy environment for talented young people? And how is that respectful? How exactly do you respect each other? This is just painful to read. What has the industry done to these guys?
No matter how you look at it, it doesn't sound respectful in the least. And it's really odd coming from a group that keeps talking about empathy. This isn't empathetic or respectful. No wonder their "Respect" song is pretty much just saying "what is respect? Idk". They don't know what respect is. I'm wondering if that could have something to do with the fact that it doesn't seem in the slightest like they're being genuinly respected by the company or sometimes even by "fans".

I know people say that they've chosen this lifestyle and that I should respect their free will, that they're addicted to their fansy lifestyle, but it still makes me a little sad because I don't think when these guys were just young but talented boys with enthusiasm shining in their eyes they understood to what extent they're about to sell their souls.
 






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Very well said.
I’m so curious when they were talking about disbanding in 2018 which of members it was that wanted out.
But I also don’t even know if you just decided you wanted out that you could just leave freely in the industry they’re in? Seems impossible.

And yes if someone didn’t want to be apart of the band anymore saying “we’d try to persuade them to stay” is putting it lightly. I feel like he’s talking about having a full blown argument stating that if we have to suffer so do you kinda thing
It’s true that they also don’t seem as close as it’s being portrayed. I believed for a while that they were all super tight but that’s just not the case. Think of it kinda like co-workers that are forced to be around each other all the time like you said. In a Vlive recently Jimin stated something along the lines of “after this is all over, V is probably gonna be the one who I’m going to continue my friendship with”.
I’m also not saying they hate each other but I can only imagine how much they get on each other’s nerves lol. It’s not all sunshine and rainbows like they make it seem
Your thoughts are very interesting. I don't know much about Freemasonry or Scientology, but I agree that his words have a lot of meaning packed into them. (Though I'm also quite curious whether there is anything lost or misunderstood in translation.)
It's also interesting that it could very well be them guilt tripping each other to stay, either because, like you said "if I have to do it, then you’ll do it too ". We can speculate about their relationship with each other all day, but we'll never know the truth. Maybe they're afraid that if one popular member leaves - that will be the end for them, as they'll lose their fame. Maybe you're right and it's out of envy. Again, I don't know, but it deffinitely is an interesting situation.

"If a member wanted to go off in a different direction, Suga said the other members would try to persuade that member to stay and work things out as a group.
We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”


It's interesting that he doesn't say it like "If any of the members struggle, we with respect try to help each other and overcome difficulties". Persuading someone can also mean trying to make someone do what they don't want to. Why did he say "persuade"? And the thing you pointed out about reasons is also very interesting. I don't know what exactly he meant, but it's an interesting point that it could be like a member would have to get consent from other members.

We also respect each other,” he said. “so if someone said that they can’t do this anymore because of certain reasons, of course we’d tried to persuade that person, think it over together, and overcome difficulties…”

That whole statement sounds so wrong. You respect each other and THAT'S WHY if someone said they can't do this anymore you of course persuade that person? What reasons are we talking about? Like Jimin having a twisted perception of what he should be and starving and overworking himself almost to death, for example? Like Tae going from a dorky boy interested in singing and art to a young man who is i-cant-even-put-into-words what he's become into? Like he himself having social phobia, thinking he's ugly and untalented and having suicidal thoughts? Does this sound like a healthy environment for talented young people? And how is that respectful? How exactly do you respect each other? This is just painful to read. What has the industry done to these guys?
No matter how you look at it, it doesn't sound respectful in the least. And it's really odd coming from a group that keeps talking about empathy. This isn't empathetic or respectful. No wonder their "Respect" song is pretty much just saying "what is respect? Idk". They don't know what respect is. I'm wondering if that could have something to do with the fact that it doesn't seem in the slightest like they're being genuinly respected by the company or sometimes even by "fans".

I know people say that they've chosen this lifestyle and that I should respect their free will, that they're addicted to their fansy lifestyle, but it still makes me a little sad because I don't think when these guys were just young but talented boys with enthusiasm shining in their eyes they understood to what extent they're about to sell their souls.
I believe that they deeply cared for each other. As KIDS, The first years when they met because they were living the time of their life.

But after 10 years? As grown men?? Spending almost every second of your life with six other guys that you’re not even romantically involved with (at least not with all of them)..that’s not a sane situation.

Even if it were your family.

Every teenager especially with many brothers at about 16-17 thinks about moving out and having his/her private space and life.


About leaving - initially I thought it was Taehyung. His emotionally breakdown on the stage raised a lot a questions. After analyzing his behavior since then, I believe the contrary. I believe that he was and is scared to death of loosing the band because he obviously has no grip over reality and his life.

His deterioration both professionally as well as personally have been very obvious. He doesn’t know what to do with his life when he’s not in the band and falls into the addictive (gaming) side.

He seems to go into a vortex of denial and laziness as well as a huge lack of self awareness and respect to himself. Respect as in cherishing and developing his qualities.

Obviously he sees that the rest of the members are preoccupied with activities outside their rehearsals or meetings. Yet, outside their rehearsals all he does (apparently of course I am speculating based on his activities) is playing games with fans making sure they know it’s him, while he could play anonymously, posting selfies, drinking, smoking and engaging in at least questionable chatting with underage girls.

All of that has surfaced more frequently after their 2018.

See Jimin who’s been on the verge of going down badly for two years now.
His diets, drinking, incapability of sleeping alone, the constant crying, his overhyped behavior, the humping every guy at events - he’s an emotional rollercoaster meant to break badly.
I think he’s the one who will have the most mental issues if the band disbands. He already has them now, hidden behind a false euphoria caused by him being surrounded by the rest of the guys and my feelings are that he is one of those who’s on meds or drugs.

My bet as to who might have expressed the desire to leave the band goes to Jin.

I don’t think he really cares more than necessary about being in the band, like a smart business move, he has other business on the side (I believe a bar or restaurant?), my guess it was that he wanted a year off before going away for two years in military AND at least being able to choose what to do afterwards.
Whoever wanted to leave, like with Yoongi, ended up being more imprisoned and dependent than before.

They jump from this tight sick lifestyle of them together all the time and LETTING everyone around them make decisions over their life for the past at least 8 years, to 2 years of military.



They should all take a break from each other before joining the military. Breath. Get used to reality.

So, I guess it was Jin and not because of his speech, or him being the one talking about it.

Obviously things will change for him afterwards. And he’s the oldest one. Almost 30.

For better or for worse things will change in his life after that and maybe despite everything the forced maturity that life imposed on you, whether you like it, want it or not, will change at least his view over how things will continue in the band once his back.

I don’t see him at 31 after almost two years of military being able to go back into BTS wearing children’s bows on his head and going on the stage looking at 100.000 children/teenagers who could equally be his children.


Regarding what you wrote about Yoongi’s and Jimin’s statement (didn’t know that one), I am not that well informed over all their interviews in general, but picking up from the ones I’ve noticed - even when they were all expressing their “love” for each other (like Taehyung saying BTS is a gift from God, or Jimin about how he wishes to live together with all members until the rest of their life), it always brought some evidence on the outside about hidden things.

Either they all let unintentionally slip things where one could add 1+1 and see behind the message, like you said about Jimin and Yoongi, OR, their unnatural love dedications for each other and the dependency SCREAMS for something reeeeaaallly disturbing.

On that note it was Jordan Peterson in one of his lectures talking about relationship pointing out to the fact that when couples go out and are overly “attentive” to each other to show to the world how much they love the other, it’s always a sign for trouble. Like making up for something missing.
See their “message”, lyrics. From love-yourself to respect. It’s a paradox. It’s the opposite of what they’re doing.

I mean...they’re so f@@@ed up in their brains (I mean this with empathy) but also craving for attention and money that they don’t even think about the morality of it. The contradiction over what they’re doing for real and what they are pretending.

It’s all left over goulash smashed together.

They (Jungkook, Taehyung and Jimin- only they are the ones who in an exaggerated way have multiple times made love declaration of high extent) want to believe that BTS is a gift from God, Jungkook is nobody outside the band, how nothing is more important than the band and them together with ARMY, Jimin not being able to exist without them like for real, he mentioned at some point how estranged and depressed he felt during the little break they had because he couldn’t do or connect to anyone.

But all this exaggeration shows that they want to make up for something missing, never mind the unnatural situation of them spending so much time together. I’m not even saying the homosexual part.

It’s abnormal to live like this. On top of that, that’s their motto. Together we will die.

So this entire thing has become a cult within a cult where they have become so dependent on each other due to their own psychological issues and professional ones, that they have to believe there is no other way out.
As far as their life outside the band goes, I’ve mentioned once that I don’t see it happening if someone would want to leave the band and go solo but not with BigHit or Bang Si-Hyuk.

No one would touch that person and he will definitely get a lot of hate.
Bang has his own solo plans coming. He needs to groom the solo part of the members one way or the other.

Obviously the entire attention would go to the one who left the band.
So no. Not possible.

They are literally stuck with each other. Until one will break and say - f@@@ you all, that’s it.
Yet they all have a way out. They are no victims.

In the end, deep down, we always do what we want to.
They complained so much about their suffering...well if that’s really so and not just a marketing victimizing tool to make “army” buy even more stuff...nobody is holding you against your will.

Haven’t they like...recently...signed up for 7+2 more years?
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