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Sorry for the late reply. That sounds very interesting. I heard something similar about negative characters as well. I don't remember who, but there was an actor who got hate mail calling him a bad person because he was playing a bad guy in a tv show. It's really scary how people confuse what they see on a screen with reality.Hmmm I think the term for that is "actor/role confusion". The book "I am not Spock" written by one of the Star Trek actors tackles it and, ironically, a lot of fans back then derided the book because they thought he was "rejecting" the character of Spock. And yes, you are right about actors being empty vessels to portray their character, here's some research on it:
It's no wonder people oftentimes get confused and conflate the actor with the character. It's because, especially when it's done well, the actor is portraying a fully formed identity.
Oh, what your friend is saying is interesting. I heard abusers use a similar tactic. They'll go for women they can sense an insecurity in or are going through something tough in their lives, will be surface-level nice or cordial to them, give them an inch (as in what they have in common) and the lady will turn it into a mile. They'll project themselves on the dude. But it's not just an abuse thing. I want to search up about it and give you some links because I used to do the same thing too, but with potential friends lol
What I find weird though, is that actors play different roles. But I'm also not a big movie fan, so maybe I'm wrong and actors tend to play "similar" roles to keep the illusion?
And thanks for the link, it was very interesting. It's interesting that even actors have very different opinions on the topic. But some quotes are really scary, like:
"Because actors have failed to develop a normal sense of identity, Weissman asserts that “the actor’s roles give him repeated opportunities to temporarily secure a self-image”
"Essentially, there is a psychological point of view that says that actors are in search of an identity that they can “become” due to an inadequate sense of their own personal identities."
"Denis Diderot is best known for his approach to the question of the role of emotion in acting. ...His conclusion was that the best actors do not feel the emotions but remain “detached”. The actor who was completely immersed and felt the emotions was in danger of becoming lost on stage where the actor portraying the emotion was always in control."
Oh, it also the topic of actors made me think of body language. The fact that an attitude causes the geture to occur and maintaining the gesture forces the attitude to remain. Like, for example, there were studies where groups of students were asked to either cross their arms, or keep them uncrossed during a lecture, and at the end of the lecture the group that had their arms crossed retained about 38% less information and developed a more negative opinion of the lecture and lecturer.
And another example is that if you adopt a confident posture and open gestures - you'll begin to feel more confident.
If an actor has to portray a character with their whole being. Voice, gestures, emotions, if the way you feel can even change because of that. Kinda like how Heath Ledger in an interview said that playing the Joker was mentally and physically draining and that he couldn't sleep. I hope what I'm trying to say makes sense.
But don't most people do that? I mean, people tend to assume that the other person agrees with them on everything, if the person is pleasant. Like men who do manual labor tend to assume the other men agree with them just because they have a good work ethic. And I've noticed people also do that about the people they dislike. Like they'll say stuff like "he's a total jerk, probably also a ___ supporter". Like they're trying to assign everything they deem as bad to that person. Probably to justify their dislike for them. Apparently there's also an old movie trick used to make unlikable characters nicer for the audience to "care". So if the character kills someone in the opening scene, they'd make the 2nd scene where he comes home to take care of his dog, or a plant. It sounds like a stupid trick, but if it was used, then it probably worked. Made the audience think "well he can't be THAT bad. He likes dogs."
By the way, I also heard something about EXO members saying that they play roles of different types of guys. That the whole idea is that any girl would find an EXO member she would like among the various types that they portray. Like Chanyeol plays the happy-go-lucky, optimistic type, Suho the chill and cool type, and so on.