BTS discussion thread

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Hmmm I think the term for that is "actor/role confusion". The book "I am not Spock" written by one of the Star Trek actors tackles it and, ironically, a lot of fans back then derided the book because they thought he was "rejecting" the character of Spock. And yes, you are right about actors being empty vessels to portray their character, here's some research on it:
It's no wonder people oftentimes get confused and conflate the actor with the character. It's because, especially when it's done well, the actor is portraying a fully formed identity.

Oh, what your friend is saying is interesting. I heard abusers use a similar tactic. They'll go for women they can sense an insecurity in or are going through something tough in their lives, will be surface-level nice or cordial to them, give them an inch (as in what they have in common) and the lady will turn it into a mile. They'll project themselves on the dude. But it's not just an abuse thing. I want to search up about it and give you some links because I used to do the same thing too, but with potential friends lol
Sorry for the late reply. That sounds very interesting. I heard something similar about negative characters as well. I don't remember who, but there was an actor who got hate mail calling him a bad person because he was playing a bad guy in a tv show. It's really scary how people confuse what they see on a screen with reality.
What I find weird though, is that actors play different roles. But I'm also not a big movie fan, so maybe I'm wrong and actors tend to play "similar" roles to keep the illusion?

And thanks for the link, it was very interesting. It's interesting that even actors have very different opinions on the topic. But some quotes are really scary, like:
"Because actors have failed to develop a normal sense of identity, Weissman asserts that “the actor’s roles give him repeated opportunities to temporarily secure a self-image”
"Essentially, there is a psychological point of view that says that actors are in search of an identity that they can “become” due to an inadequate sense of their own personal identities."
"Denis Diderot is best known for his approach to the question of the role of emotion in acting. ...His conclusion was that the best actors do not feel the emotions but remain “detached”. The actor who was completely immersed and felt the emotions was in danger of becoming lost on stage where the actor portraying the emotion was always in control."

Oh, it also the topic of actors made me think of body language. The fact that an attitude causes the geture to occur and maintaining the gesture forces the attitude to remain. Like, for example, there were studies where groups of students were asked to either cross their arms, or keep them uncrossed during a lecture, and at the end of the lecture the group that had their arms crossed retained about 38% less information and developed a more negative opinion of the lecture and lecturer.
And another example is that if you adopt a confident posture and open gestures - you'll begin to feel more confident.
If an actor has to portray a character with their whole being. Voice, gestures, emotions, if the way you feel can even change because of that. Kinda like how Heath Ledger in an interview said that playing the Joker was mentally and physically draining and that he couldn't sleep. I hope what I'm trying to say makes sense.

But don't most people do that? I mean, people tend to assume that the other person agrees with them on everything, if the person is pleasant. Like men who do manual labor tend to assume the other men agree with them just because they have a good work ethic. And I've noticed people also do that about the people they dislike. Like they'll say stuff like "he's a total jerk, probably also a ___ supporter". Like they're trying to assign everything they deem as bad to that person. Probably to justify their dislike for them. Apparently there's also an old movie trick used to make unlikable characters nicer for the audience to "care". So if the character kills someone in the opening scene, they'd make the 2nd scene where he comes home to take care of his dog, or a plant. It sounds like a stupid trick, but if it was used, then it probably worked. Made the audience think "well he can't be THAT bad. He likes dogs."

By the way, I also heard something about EXO members saying that they play roles of different types of guys. That the whole idea is that any girl would find an EXO member she would like among the various types that they portray. Like Chanyeol plays the happy-go-lucky, optimistic type, Suho the chill and cool type, and so on.
 

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Sorry if this is not bts related. Does anybody here know how to contact JD privately? Her instagram acc is disappeared until now. Thx :)
 
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Hey guys!

I hope you are all well.

I have a question. When you guys watch bts music videos, do you feel that your energy gets drained?

I just watched Jimin' s black swan performance and idk...I am feeling so down, melancholic, upset and exhausted. I know it's an emotional video but it almost made me cry and I don't cry easily.
This happens to me with all their music videos. Whenever I watch their music videos, I feel strongly influenced and I feel like their songs make me materialistic. I know that sounds really weird but I don't know how else to explain it. I know this is really bad but ever since I was introduced to them, I have just become a lot more critical of the way I look, the way I dress and the way I carry myself. Its really weird and I don't know how to snap out of it. Please pray for me
They claim that their music heals but I feel it does the opposite. All the glitz and glamour make you feel like your missing out on something and that's what keeps people hooked. I'm not hooked but I do feel like their music has cast a spell on me.
That's actually me rn. When I listen to them I aspire to be as famous and successful as them in the material sense but I can't stop listening to their music even tho I know it's bad
 

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sorry if this is not related to BTS,
I know GFRIEND since they debuted (January 2015) and I listen to their songs a lot and the songs are really good, but I see the difference in GFRIEND's song - "Apple" including music videos and when they appear on music shows, when they appear on my music shows Seeing the stage background showing the image "Inverted Pentagram" and I searched on google. What is "Inverted Pentagram" and it surprised me, is it true that it is a symbol of Satan worshipper or a symbol for satanist rituals?.

And I find out about GFRIEND - Apple music video and it's about Adam and Eve but I don't know what the music video means (Theory) including the meaning of the song lyrics. I think GFRIEND changed completely since the agency (SOURCE MUSIC Entertainment) was acquired by BIGHIT, they changed everything, including the concept and changed the music producer (Check out GFRIEND - Apple is produced by Bang PD and other music producers from Bighit and if I'm not mistaken the song was also written by Bang PD).

and I saw a lot of comments on GFRIEND - Apple music videos and various forums if GFRIEND has sold its soul, GFRIEND is a satanist, GFRIEND devil worship, BIGHIT takes GFRIEND to hell. I saw the previous music video there was no comment like that (before the agency was acquired by BIGHIT) and only normal music videos, there were no strange symbols (satanic symbols, illuminati, etc.)

sorry if my english is bad, i use google translate (I can't speak English), and i am from Indonesia.GF1.jpgGF2.jpg

if you want to watch the video of GFRIEND performing the song "Apple" while on a music show:
 

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Hello this thread is for kpop group BTS!

DISCLAIMER: all the topics and theories discussed here are pure speculation. The information should NOT be taken as facts

Before you start I recommend you to check this useful information:
  1. BTS theory sacrifices: https://divingdeep2017.wordpress.com/2017/02/14/bts-theory-sacrifices/
  2. BTS "boy in luv" posters connections theory: https://divingdeep2017.wordpress.com/2017/02/24/bts-boy-in-luv-posters/
  3. More connections found: https://divingdeep2017.wordpress.com/2017/03/27/more-connections-found-bts-theory/
  4. Illuminati Rituals theory: https://divingdeep2017.wordpress.com/2017/05/05/illuminati-rituals-theory/
All credit to @Bae Yeon Hee

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Video explaining the illuminati symbolism in their MVs:


Video explaining the symbolism in the bulding that inspired their new logo:


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GOD this is crazy! i dont have an idea what is going on there...i mean the kpop industry
 
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Hey guys!

I hope you are all well.

I have a question. When you guys watch bts music videos, do you feel that your energy gets drained?

I just watched Jimin' s black swan performance and idk...I am feeling so down, melancholic, upset and exhausted. I know it's an emotional video but it almost made me cry and I don't cry easily.
This happens to me with all their music videos. Whenever I watch their music videos, I feel strongly influenced and I feel like their songs make me materialistic. I know that sounds really weird but I don't know how else to explain it. I know this is really bad but ever since I was introduced to them, I have just become a lot more critical of the way I look, the way I dress and the way I carry myself. Its really weird and I don't know how to snap out of it. Please pray for me
They claim that their music heals but I feel it does the opposite. All the glitz and glamour make you feel like your missing out on something and that's what keeps people hooked. I'm not hooked but I do feel like their music has cast a spell on me.
Hello, welcome. Yes. I believe these people are energy vampires.
 

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sorry if this is not related to BTS,
I know GFRIEND since they debuted (January 2015) and I listen to their songs a lot and the songs are really good, but I see the difference in GFRIEND's song - "Apple" including music videos and when they appear on music shows, when they appear on my music shows Seeing the stage background showing the image "Inverted Pentagram" and I searched on google. What is "Inverted Pentagram" and it surprised me, is it true that it is a symbol of Satan worshipper or a symbol for satanist rituals?.

And I find out about GFRIEND - Apple music video and it's about Adam and Eve but I don't know what the music video means (Theory) including the meaning of the song lyrics. I think GFRIEND changed completely since the agency (SOURCE MUSIC Entertainment) was acquired by BIGHIT, they changed everything, including the concept and changed the music producer (Check out GFRIEND - Apple is produced by Bang PD and other music producers from Bighit and if I'm not mistaken the song was also written by Bang PD).

and I saw a lot of comments on GFRIEND - Apple music videos and various forums if GFRIEND has sold its soul, GFRIEND is a satanist, GFRIEND devil worship, BIGHIT takes GFRIEND to hell. I saw the previous music video there was no comment like that (before the agency was acquired by BIGHIT) and only normal music videos, there were no strange symbols (satanic symbols, illuminati, etc.)

sorry if my english is bad, i use google translate (I can't speak English), and i am from Indonesia.View attachment 44082View attachment 44083

if you want to watch the video of GFRIEND performing the song "Apple" while on a music show:
Well damn
 

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sorry if this is not related to BTS,
I know GFRIEND since they debuted (January 2015) and I listen to their songs a lot and the songs are really good, but I see the difference in GFRIEND's song - "Apple" including music videos and when they appear on music shows, when they appear on my music shows Seeing the stage background showing the image "Inverted Pentagram" and I searched on google. What is "Inverted Pentagram" and it surprised me, is it true that it is a symbol of Satan worshipper or a symbol for satanist rituals?.

And I find out about GFRIEND - Apple music video and it's about Adam and Eve but I don't know what the music video means (Theory) including the meaning of the song lyrics. I think GFRIEND changed completely since the agency (SOURCE MUSIC Entertainment) was acquired by BIGHIT, they changed everything, including the concept and changed the music producer (Check out GFRIEND - Apple is produced by Bang PD and other music producers from Bighit and if I'm not mistaken the song was also written by Bang PD).

and I saw a lot of comments on GFRIEND - Apple music videos and various forums if GFRIEND has sold its soul, GFRIEND is a satanist, GFRIEND devil worship, BIGHIT takes GFRIEND to hell. I saw the previous music video there was no comment like that (before the agency was acquired by BIGHIT) and only normal music videos, there were no strange symbols (satanic symbols, illuminati, etc.)

sorry if my english is bad, i use google translate (I can't speak English), and i am from Indonesia.View attachment 44082View attachment 44083

if you want to watch the video of GFRIEND performing the song "Apple" while on a music show:
Every other comment is "I know this isn't BTS related but..." Um, you do know there is a general K-Pop thread right?
 

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I think it is.. As for what I have seen 99.9% of anime show satanic things.. And it's from Japan so.... It's just my opinion tho
So is it bad to watch? I mostly watch underrated animes which are the least satanic. I don't watch popular animes like one piece and Naruto because their the most satanic.
 

ayo05

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So is it bad to watch? I mostly watch underrated animes which are the least satanic. I don't watch popular animes like one piece and Naruto because their the most satanic.
This is what ppl gave me as advice about stuff like this.. Just pray about it and if it affects ur spirit then don't watch it.. I don't watch amine, Ihave only seen tiktok vids about it (and they show some ppl Rated R stuff...) so I can't really help u a lot..
 
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