BTS discussion thread

[OvercomeItAll]

Ok, first of all, you are saying "no harm intended" but it's you who are calling us "haters", "rats" and make speculations. If we were haters as you said, we wouldn't even be on this site, the only reason we are here is because we care not only about them, but about fans too. I am a "recovering" Army and allow me to tell you that your behavior isn't exactly different from other Armys on Twitter who dismiss anything as hate. Also, who said that we can't digest Bt€'s success and are only happy about our "faves"? have you even watched the other kp0p thread? People have been discussing about every other group out there, this argument is absurd. It's not hate to discuss Bt€' s success when part of the success was due to their membership in freemasonry and other unethical ways and you must know that yourself or else you wouldn't have been on this site too. I don't know if I only speak for myself but we can still care for them and be tired of seeing them everywhere at the same time, it would be the same with any other group, kp0p or not,we are not black and white and people have many complex sides in them. Yes, of course they are humans but people here try to see the bigger picture and they don't analyze one unfortunate incident, it's more of a combination of plenty of them. No one here would mention one random slip for example. Also, it's no secret that most of celebrities do drugs so there's that.
As for the religious part, sorry but what you mentioned is plain rude. Please never make fun of people's beliefs, you say we need education but this behavior shows me an uneducated person. Some times I, too, don't agree with everyone's religious beliefs as I am more of a gnostic Christian and I like Esoterism and Alchemy but I respect everyone's opinions because it is as valid and who I am to say they are wrong? No one is wrong for what they choose to believe in. Many won't agree with my beliefs too and it's perfectly ok because I never claimed that it was me who was right. When I came on to this thread I felt so happy and accepted because despite everyone's different spiritual beliefs, they were so respectful to each other and were united under one goal,so please try to be more respectful too.These people are trying their best and they are in fact very knowledgeable imo. Moreover, that doesn't mean that we don't accept science, but science is human-made and limited so do you really believe that science which is constantly reviewing and correcting itself is the only truth out there? Anyways, I'm sorry if I came off harsh, you did the right thing by taking all of that off your chest but I wanted to clear some things up. Also, no one is hating you, it is childish to hate on someone just for a different opinion.I am not a native speaker so I'm sorry if I can't properly explain things any further.

Oh god, that was a long post!

I second this!!

I just wanted to add that most of the Armýs that find this thread for the first time and suddenly learn of the dark, dark truth about seven boys they once adored will feel anything but indifference. You can't expect them to just be chill at the time about something so sinister and shocking.

They will be horrified, confused, scared, and even hate themselves for being so blind. They will be hurt. It's like finding out your bestfriend, the person you always turned to when you felt down, was someone that you should be running from. Someone that would and has hurt others for their own selfish needs.

That obsession of bt$, that strong love for them and everything they stand for flips 180° in the reader and turns to outright hate. You can't just wish them all the best when you feel so betrayed, so this reaction is very normal. But very soon, the person will end their addiction to bt$ and even kp0p. To the industry in general because they'll never see them the same way. That's what we encourage, even if it means several harsh words need to be said. We just want people to wake up and see past the glamour of these idols.

This wasn't just aimed at you, this is for any reader on this thread who is wondering why there is so much hate shown towards bt$ every now and then. There are many newly heartbroken ex-armýs here, and this is one of the only places on the internet where they can confide in someone, express their pain. The only place where people will listen and not mock them, people that can relate.

If you don't agree @Sirone_san , that's fine. You're still an armý and it's likely that you're having a hard time believing what is said on this thread (not all of it is true, I agree that some points are extremely exaggerated, but other points are so spot-on and in your face that if you fail to believe them, you're deffo still under bt$'s spell). It takes time to digest such strange and dark news, I was in denial for months.

But I do need to add that your post was quite ironic bc you're calling us haters for hating bt$ and apparently liking other groups (which manyyyy of us dont, go read the kpop thread) while you are straight-up hating on us because YOU like bt$. That makes no sense.

 

[fearlesslight]

Unpopular opinions about this thread-
Just my opinions, no harm intended

1. This thread discusses the elite and freemasonry stuff and how to get out of it's spell but tbh, most of y'all here are just plain haters who can't digest BTS' success. You want your faves to reach this peak and when they'll do exactly what BTS does, you won't complain. Y'all don't care abt the real topic here. You disgusting salty haters just want to see their downfall.
2. I'm still a fan, that's why I come here to see what's happening with them. I never invest my time over those I hate. To see you rats come here everyday and observe every move they make just to watch them fall, y'all are pathetic. If u really don't want to be influenced by them and are the 'eternal father's eternal child's, you won't waste time on this $hit.
3. This is just a toxic thread to make fun of Beetees and their faces and mannerisms which is just plain rude.
4. Connecting even the smallest thing such as slipping to the elites is just pathetic. They are humans. I'm myself slip, stay awake till 4 am, act weird sometimes. Humans are like that. Stop being so silly.
At this point, this thread should be renamed to 'BTS hating discussion thread'
4. Some of you need education. Y'all are so backward minded and never consider the scientific reasons behind things and always preach 'Lord Lord' and 'devil devil'. It's laughable. Go to school. Some of y'all's theories are too dumb. Someone's lip is swollen? Illuminati confirmed.
Pathetic and ridiculous.
I needed to get that off my chest. I unapologetically admit I'm an ARMY an I'm interested in the Illuminati and conspiracy theories, so I read this thread here and there.
Some of y'all are just plain haters. You still listen to kpop and then preach how Satanic Beetees and some of the artists you hate are.
Beetees are doing all this under the influence of their company. They don't have a say now and your faves aren't some innocent god loving babies. They'd gladly take Beetees' place.
The thing is they ARE extremely more talented than your faves and worked their butts off to be where they are.
Hate me if you want. I don't care.

I totally agree. A lot of things said here are exaggerated and super biased agaisnt bts at this point

 

[wow]

I've been a fan for years and never


I've been a fan for years and never have I been 'obssessed' with them. I never prioritized them over my studies or my family. We're the only ones responsible for not letting them get into our head. They're celebs, they'll act this way. It's our job to not become possessed. I know what all this is, I study psychology and philosophical books. I've been reading on the Illuminati for quite a few years. I agree there are many hints but some of the hints that are pointed out are just plain dumb.

literally, we are not forcing you to stay here and read all of our "hate" comments, if you dont like the way we expressed ourselves, then just leave, its not that hard, dont come here and complain about how the thread works, you can just create another one where theres only bts fans but still discuss about the illuminati if you dont like the people here.

I totally agree. A lot of things said here are exaggerated and super biased agaisnt bts at this point

im sorry, who are you???

 

[fearlesslight]

literally, we are not forcing you to stay here and read all of our "hate" comments, if you dont like the way we expressed ourselves, then just leave, its not that hard, dont come here and complain about how the thread works, you can just create another one where theres only bts fans but still discuss about the illuminati if you dont like the people here.



im sorry, who are you???

A reader of the thread. Wtf is this question

 

[fearlesslight]

A reader of the thread. Wtf is this question

I believe BTS are full of symbolism around them and their mvs. Even during their MMA performance they flashed some 666 symbols. I'm aware. But know that they have some credit too. They are hardworking and super talented no matter what. There are artists fullllll of symbolism, crazily obvious mvs, that can't reach a quarter of their success. Being involved in the occult won't bring instant fame. And still, pretty sure bts are victims of the system too. There are blatant signs they're in it (all the connections with western stars; bbmas; amas; grammys; it sure isnt due to their talent) but don't completely discredit their work and constantly bring them down and hate on them solely for being "big". I agree with a lot of what is said, but some are obvious reaches & it's all confirmation bias at its finest, that bts cant even LOOK at someone that they're already being "creepy" and shit. They still Are human and not everything is a "sign" of freemasonry and such.

 

[cadiz]

A reader of the thread. Wtf is this question

I think they are asking you this question because we never saw you post in this thread before
we are always careful with new users because, some BTS fans have tried to hack us before

I've been on this thread for one year, and since that time several BTS fans came here and called us RATS
oithers said we should go to hell or die
and the worst of them all made mutliple accounts, had a fake identity for months and then tried to hack us....some people here were literally HARRASSED by them

so yeah.....some of us must come off as "mean"....but we had to deal with a lot of crazy fans before so we are always in defensive mode just in case

Lastly. if I have to talk about myself:
I dont only participate in this thread...I've engaged in conversations all over this forum because I love talking about this subject and find it fascinating
it's a mistake to believe all of us only "hate" on BTS because that is not the case, A lot of regular users here are active in other threads aswell and they are very informed and smart

Calling them HATERZ is reductive

 

[fearlesslight]

I think they are asking you this question because we never saw you post in this thread before
we are always careful with new users because, some BTS fans have tried to hack us before

I've been on this thread for one year, and since that time several BTS fans came here and called us RATS
oithers said we should go to hell or die
and the worst of them all made mutliple accounts, had a fake identity for months and then tried to hack us....some people here were literally HARRASSED by them

so yeah.....some of us must come off as "mean"....but we had to deal with a lot of crazy fans before so we are always in defensive mode just in case

Lastly. if I have to talk about myself:
I dont only participate in this thread...I've engaged in conversations all over this forum because I love talking about this subject and find it fascinating
it's a mistake to believe all of us only "hate" on BTS because that is not the case, A lot of regular users here are active in other threads aswell and they are very informed and smart

Calling them HATERZ is reductive

Oh okay. I think i've posted before. If not here, then on the kpop one. Ive been a silent reader for around a year. Anyways im not having on anyone here. Just think ppl go too far too often lately

 

[taepeach]

Unpopular opinions about this thread-
Just my opinions, no harm intended

1. This thread discusses the elite and freemasonry stuff and how to get out of it's spell but tbh, most of y'all here are just plain haters who can't digest BTS' success. You want your faves to reach this peak and when they'll do exactly what BTS does, you won't complain. Y'all don't care abt the real topic here. You disgusting salty haters just want to see their downfall.
2. I'm still a fan, that's why I come here to see what's happening with them. I never invest my time over those I hate. To see you rats come here everyday and observe every move they make just to watch them fall, y'all are pathetic. If u really don't want to be influenced by them and are the 'eternal father's eternal child's, you won't waste time on this $hit.
3. This is just a toxic thread to make fun of Beetees and their faces and mannerisms which is just plain rude.
4. Connecting even the smallest thing such as slipping to the elites is just pathetic. They are humans. I'm myself slip, stay awake till 4 am, act weird sometimes. Humans are like that. Stop being so silly.
At this point, this thread should be renamed to 'BTS hating discussion thread'
4. Some of you need education. Y'all are so backward minded and never consider the scientific reasons behind things and always preach 'Lord Lord' and 'devil devil'. It's laughable. Go to school. Some of y'all's theories are too dumb. Someone's lip is swollen? Illuminati confirmed.
Pathetic and ridiculous.
I needed to get that off my chest. I unapologetically admit I'm an ARMY an I'm interested in the Illuminati and conspiracy theories, so I read this thread here and there.
Some of y'all are just plain haters. You still listen to kpop and then preach how Satanic Beetees and some of the artists you hate are.
Beetees are doing all this under the influence of their company. They don't have a say now and your faves aren't some innocent god loving babies. They'd gladly take Beetees' place.
The thing is they ARE extremely more talented than your faves and worked their butts off to be where they are.
Hate me if you want. I don't care.

I suggest you read this thread from the very first page. We literally dont have over a thousand pages just criticising and going against bts. The american and kpop music industry is filled with symbolism and has a great sinister/satanic agenda behind it. Sure at times some of us have been really extra about it but i and others have countlessly shown our sympathy for them, our desire for them to repent and escape the industry. I literally have a whole Taehyung in my profile cuz he is my bias and ive adored his talent and his beauty and personality, and with the other boys toom. Yeah they are still humans with conciense and morals but they are being used as puppets. Lots of us were armys and kpop fans and we have seen people here try to heal and restore themselves from the damage and bondage kpop has trapped them in, so we know what its like to be fans of them. But at the same time you cant lie to yourself and think that everything is perfectly fine and innocent. Once you see the truth, you cant unsee it. Yes they have undeniable talent, but it was manipulated and used by the occult in vain. And like literally who is ever even talking about "our faves"?? Its good you released out all your emotions but you literally insulted us without context or taking time to read our posts. But just know we dont hate them at all, at least i dont, but we really want dont want evil to continue. Either way God bless you and i hope the Lord shines the light on you soon

 

[taepeach]

I come here once in a blue moon anyway, I've got better things to do than to plot to ruin the careers of people who don't even know I exist. My life doesn't revolve around this pathetic $hit unlike some.

oh no i really dont like seeing people want their deaths/failure, that i agree with you cuz i still have hope and praying the Lord convicts them/gives them rest. And im really sorry if i came too harsh on you the way you said the things on the post caught me off guard and i understand where you are coming from but this year kpop has been extremely dark.

 

[Bubble_tea]

I second this!!

I just wanted to add that most of the Armýs that find this thread for the first time and suddenly learn of the dark, dark truth about seven boys they once adored will feel anything but indifference. You can't expect them to just be chill at the time about something so sinister and shocking.

They will be horrified, confused, scared, and even hate themselves for being so blind. They will be hurt. It's like finding out your bestfriend, the person you always turned to when you felt down, was someone that you should be running from. Someone that would and has hurt others for their own selfish needs.

That obsession of bt$, that strong love for them and everything they stand for flips 180° in the reader and turns to outright hate. You can't just wish them all the best when you feel so betrayed, so this reaction is very normal. But very soon, the person will end their addiction to bt$ and even kp0p. To the industry in general because they'll never see them the same way. And that's the exact point of this thread. That's what we encourage, even if it means several harsh words need to be said. We just want people to wake up and see past the glamour of these idols.

This wasn't just aimed at you, this is for any reader on this thread who is wondering why there is so much hate shown towards bt$ every now and then. There are many newly heartbroken ex-armýs here, and this is one of the only places on the internet where they can confide in someone, express their pain. The only place where people will listen and not mock them, people that can relate.

If you don't agree @Sirone_san , that's fine. You're still an armý and it's likely that you're having a hard time believing what is said on this thread (not all of it is true, I agree that some points are extremely exaggerated, but other points are so spot-on and in your face that if you fail to believe them, you're deffo still under bt$'s spell). It takes time to digest such strange and dark news, I was in denial for months.

But I do need to add that your post was quite ironic bc you're calling us haters for hating bt$ and apparently liking other groups (which manyyyy of us dont, go read the kpop thread) while you are straight-up hating on us because YOU like bt$. That makes no sense.

I can't like this post enough! As I was reading it, I saw myself in many of your points, it is exactly how you describe it, the bond feels so real and it is like losing a part of yourself realizing the truth. It takes time for many of fans and we all should be patient and compassionate, we can't demand everyone to walk with the same pace as the others, every individual is unique and is processing the truth differently. Also this user says they study/have studied psychology, I have taken psychology classes at my Uni and l can guarantee you their approach was not of a psychologist to say the least, on the contrary, I am definitely not saying they are a liar, but I don't like when a scientific field gets twisted like that, and because this can apply on a bigger scale too ,behaviors like these are one of the reasons why many people have been avoiding psychologists/psychiatrists , at least in my country. A good psychologist has patience and empathy, is a good listener, kindly points out their opinion and if they feel the patient is in the wrong, they respectfully direct the patient and then let them find the right answers by themselves.But of course just bc they don't criticize them, it doesn't mean they agree with them. Understanding though is the alpha and the omega. I am sorry for the rant but this is about actual potential clients of them whom we are talking about and this is very serious if they are considering following this profession for a living, so I hope they change their state of mind and be more empathetic.

 

[cadiz]

I can't like this post enough! As I was reading it, I saw myself in many of your points, it is exactly how you describe it, the bond feels so real and it is like losing a part of yourself realizing the truth. It takes time for many of fans and we all should be patient and compassionate, we can't demand everyone to walk with the same pace as the others, every individual is unique and is processing the truth differently.

I agree with you. for some people is harder to break free from the love they feel for BT$
They want to believe BT$ are not guilty, and they are just being forced to do everything

And I understand that....to a certain point
Because to give an example: If someone we love is accused of a crime (lets say your brother)
your first reaction will be to DENY the crime, you will say is all lies and your brother is innocent

but what happens if the evidence of him being guilty is presented to you agan and again?
At what point do you look at the evidence and say: "I accept it, he is guilty and I can't protect him anymore"

I think a lot of people know deep down what the truth is..... but they are not ready to let go of the ideal image they have of their bias
They need to keep that image intact because is already part of their own identity (they feel real love for that person)

 

[Dove28]

I believe BTS are full of symbolism around them and their mvs. Even during their MMA performance they flashed some 666 symbols. I'm aware. But know that they have some credit too. They are hardworking and super talented no matter what. There are artists fullllll of symbolism, crazily obvious mvs, that can't reach a quarter of their success. Being involved in the occult won't bring instant fame. And still, pretty sure bts are victims of the system too. There are blatant signs they're in it (all the connections with western stars; bbmas; amas; grammys; it sure isnt due to their talent) but don't completely discredit their work and constantly bring them down and hate on them solely for being "big". I agree with a lot of what is said, but some are obvious reaches & it's all confirmation bias at its finest, that bts cant even LOOK at someone that they're already being "creepy" and shit. They still Are human and not everything is a "sign" of freemasonry and such.

This shit isn't even about "666 symbols" and I can tell you don't really care about what is said here mentioning that.The music industry is a REAL twisted systematic game that has really messed up participates including the "victims" who are willing to defend their abusers for a check. There's some "hardworking and super-talented" celebrities who are pedophiles, murders and rapists. I guess with your "logic", I shouldn't discredit Woody Allen, Elvis, Michael Jackson or R-Kelly for being "big" for their works and success. And since when do people start admiring celebrities being "hard-working"? You mean being a slave? Do you think they even have the choice to do what they do honestly...AT LEAST at THIS point? I'm sure some members want to leave but money is intoxicating. It makes them feel good and content.

 

[Bubble_tea]

I agree with you. for some people is harder to break free from the love they feel for BT$
They want to believe BT$ are not guilty, and they are just being forced to do everything

And I understand that....to a certain point
Because to give an example: If someone we love is accused of a crime (lets say your brother)
your first reaction will be to DENY the crime, you will say is all lies and your brother is innocent

but what happens if the evidence of him being guilty is presented to you agan and again?
At what point do you look at the evidence and say: "I accept it, he is guilty and I can't protect him anymore"

I think a lot of people know deep down what the truth is..... but they are not ready to let go of the ideal image they have of their bias
They need to keep that image intact because is already part of their own identity (they feel real love for that person)

You are sooo right about everything! In my case, it took me a whole year to accept that they are not just being forced to do any of these, but actually they have also their share of responsibility. I don't necessarily believe they are bad people as I don't exactly believe in the concept of totally good and bad, because they can be the most caring people towards their family and little kids for example , to me it is more about how someone decides to react in various chances they'll get in life, being good or bad is an everyday personal and conscious choice. But this doesn't make them a good example either, I just consider them very lost in life and it saddens me bc in the industry celebrities who sold their soul to the devil, they let them believe they can't repent and there is no way back when in reality everyone can repent and God just waits for them to acknowledge it. As for Armys, you have described it much better than I could have. I also believe that they know the truth deep down but they choose to ignore it bc truth always hurts and from what I've observed, plenty of them have some psychological issues unsolved so for many of them Bt€ is their only happiness, unfortunately. It is the same as the everyday person who is following blindingly sports, politics, fashion etc, these are means of escapism and I don't blame them bc life is always hard and they just try to have as less worries as possible. Hope is always strong and is the only motivation humanity has left and in this case, Armys just hope that Bt€ is actually different.

 

[J.Gloria]

Hello! (●’◡’●)ﾉ
I'm a newbie here. My sister informed me about this thread because she knows I how much I LOVE to talk about celebrities and the illuminati.

I actually made this account because I wanted to talk about BTS with you guys. Why are they so famous? I know they're sell outs, but I never used to see them that much like... a year ago but now I do! If I simply go to my Google feed, the first thing that pops up is something about BTS. If I search up just ONE thing about BTS, then as soon as I go to YouTube to watch a video, an ad shows, and it's about BTS.

They must be doing rituals daily or something. Usually I see other celebrities, but now and days it's all about K-pop! I also see people with profile pictures of any member like ANYWHERE. Go to any social media site, and you're going to see SOMEONE with a BTS profile picture. I wish people would just wake up. Unfortunately, everyone isn't called to do so.

Anyways, I'm a young teenager (14/15) here but worry not, I know a lot for my age. I'm not one of those young people who claim to know EVERYTHING but I know A LOT about discussions involving the illuminati, selling your soul, the third eye, symbolism, satanic worship, etc etc because God taught me.

You know, I can never listen to a peaceful song. Almost every song involves lyrics with "Do what you want, you don't have to care, have sex with anyone you want, go kill someone, steal a car, steal some money. LOVE IS THE LAW" Nah-uh. Even some Christian music are starting to get WORLDLY. This is straight up sad.

When I wake up, I think about God first, and then I think about how we are all in the end times and satan will be defeated soon. The prophecies must be completed. The devil doesn't want them to, but they're getting what they deserve, and soon enough their little soulless puppets will get the same torture they're getting. I don't know if there's levels in hell, but if there is, then anyone who sold their soul are most likely getting the worst level of torment.

Sad shame how some of God's creation decide to side with the unholy one. Anyways, that's all I wanted to say for now. God bless!

Awww.....I like you already

 

[FaithAndStrength]

This shit isn't even about "666 symbols" and I can tell you don't really care about what is said here mentioning that.The music industry is a REAL twisted systematic game that has really messed up participates including the "victims" who are willing to defend their abusers for a check. There's some "hardworking and super-talented" celebrities who are pedophiles, murders and rapists. I guess with your "logic", I shouldn't discredit Woody Allen, Elvis, Michael Jackson or R-Kelly for being "big" for their works and success. And since when do people start admiring celebrities being "hard-working"? You mean being a slave? Do you think they even have the choice to do what they do honestly...AT LEAST at THIS point? I'm sure some members want to leave but money is intoxicating. It makes them feel good and content.

I agree with the majority of your post, but I believe we have to give fearlesslight a chance to get used to this thread. Learning about this can take years. God introduced me to it during 2017 but he began teaching me in 2018, so this took me 2/3 years to adapt, although it was pretty easy for me because if you have a relationship with him, you wouldn't really be surprised if he told you the dark news. Anyways, it's obvious fearlesslight, (If you're reading this, can I just call you FSL for short? If you disagree, it's fine) is most likely still a fan seeing as they told us things they don't understand.

It'd be more better to explain it rather than just bluntly say everything with irritation. (People who are lost look at celebrities as hard working, that's why I said it's best to explain) It's pretty emotional for them to take in, I can tell, as when I used to be a fan of bts, I actually had moments where I developed depression, and hatred towards God (Even tho he told me as soon as I found out about them that they were evil, but I dismissed it willingly) so their level of understanding is reasonable. If they can't handle it, that's when they can just leave, and we can go on about this thread.

As for you, fearlesslight, if you really want to know the truth, stick with us, and God (If you don't believe in God, sorry but he's literally the ultimate being to show you as long as you ask with faith, and not just for your benefit) and if it takes you a while, I understand. However, if you decide to just blow everything off, we will have no choice but to move on with others who want to know about it.

Also, I'm taking this seriously because of past encounters many of you have experienced, and I personally want people to feel welcomed here, though as we all know, if they want to disagree, or start something, that's when we suggest they leave/ignore them/move on.

 

[J.Gloria]

i do think what th said in his vlive is a publicity stunt, you have to know how the vlives are monitored by their handlers too, and how the handlers are behind their cameras all this time, theyre not free guys, and they never will, they have to play an act everytime the camera is on, what kind of dumb company that wont monitor a famous guy on live? its a vlive, not a btsbomb or bts run episode, they cant edit the video, they cant erase what they said, so of course, it has to be scripted, they cant let them say what they want, if they arent monitored or putting an act or their alters arent on, they couldve been crying for help on live long time ago, and please, dont even bother doing a shipping analysis and care about how the members are in terms of relationships, theyre nothing but co workers, they were friends before but now their friendship just kind of faded away and even if the vlive isnt even monitored by their handlers, i think th is being a dramatic and jealous b*tch, trying to play the victim and whines on vlive about how he is sad about jikook's friendship is soooooo annoying to me, he wants armys to hate on jikook's relationship because he knows how famous he is and i hate how he always acts all sad and miserable on vlives, he wants people to feel sad about him and feel empathy, its weird how he also wears a kaballah on that vlive, he seriously never done a happy, casual, and normal vlive, like the others, everytime he is on vlive, he has to act all sad and dark, i feel like he is playing with armys' feelings, and after how he said that jk doesnt let jm hangs out with him and he pulls off a bitter "smile" i dont think thats a bitter smile, its a smirk, he knows what the camera and public does to him, he wants armys to have a war, he wants them to defend him so he acts all sad about it, if he doesnt say shit about jikook's relationship or if he isnt jealous and petty of their relationship, things will go out well with the three of them, but instead, he wants drama "i want to be manly" yet he cant accept the fact that his best friend hangs out with someone who isnt him, and seriously, wtf is wrong with that? he is so fucking childish about this whole drama that he created because of his jealousy, and not to mention how fragile his ego is, he wants jm/jk all to himself? and is petty if they hung out together without him? i mean, its pretty obvious how they dont like him because of his unhealthy personality, i believe he has mental problems. i dont know about you but i dont see any "genuineness" around him, he is as fake as the others, always putting an act, and dont forget to mention how he is the best actor out of all the other members, what a drama king smh, and also people here said that he is "humble", while he is out here flashing out gucci and accessories, theres nothing humble in that. while you guys are out here having a soft spot for him, im here having a logical explanation and opinions about him. im an INTP so i dont like to have opinions based on my feelings(heart), i like to have it based on my thinking(brain).

Is INTP a type of personality or what?........I know that Tae seems plastic to you but please try being a little bit nicer to him especially now that you've mentioned that he's mentally unstable, remember that he has no control over what his mind tells him to do

 

[cadiz]

As for Armys, you have described it much better than I could have. I also believe that they know the truth deep down but they choose to ignore it bc truth always hurts and from what I've observed, plenty of them have some psychological issues unsolved so for many of them Bt€ is their only happiness, unfortunately. It is the same as the everyday person who is following blindingly sports, politics, fashion etc, these are means of escapism and I don't blame them bc life is always hard and they just try to have as less worries as possible. Hope is always strong and is the only motivation humanity has left and in this case, Armys just hope that Bt€ is actually different.

yes, it's a form of escapism.
But I think is harder for teenage fans to let go of the intense love

I watched this video and it explains very well the power boy bands have over teens...because boy groups are created to become the "first love" of the fans....and who can forget their first love?

if you want to watch:

 

[cadiz]

look here:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1201528682109685760

don't you think is weird they are making JM perform dances that are made only for women?

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Ahh, what you are saying makes so much sense as many celebs have these shills/bots to form opinions and lead the masses. On this very site I have even seen a thread about an investigation of celebrities with most fake followers and Bts came second with 48%. I truly hope you are right because Occultism aside, I got so fed up with them striving to be the center of it all, they are talented and all but I wish they'd give more space for others to shine.

I have said this thing before and I agree...honestly..I have huge suspicion regarding celebrities number of fans.....I see Kpop Fans everywhere in twitter facebook...but NEVER IN THE STREET!!! THE real world!!!! I have stumbled over a BTS poster here and NO BODY even looking at them...NO BODY CARE at all...I have suspicion those in twitter facebook etc...could have been planted by Bighit or other companies..but obvioulsy Bighit do it more...I think BTS are the most celebrity in the world that have fake followers that planted by BigShit

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Unpopular opinions about this thread-
Just my opinions, no harm intended

1. This thread discusses the elite and freemasonry stuff and how to get out of it's spell but tbh, most of y'all here are just plain haters who can't digest BTS' success. You want your faves to reach this peak and when they'll do exactly what BTS does, you won't complain. Y'all don't care abt the real topic here. You disgusting salty haters just want to see their downfall.
2. I'm still a fan, that's why I come here to see what's happening with them. I never invest my time over those I hate. To see you rats come here everyday and observe every move they make just to watch them fall, y'all are pathetic. If u really don't want to be influenced by them and are the 'eternal father's eternal child's, you won't waste time on this $hit.
3. This is just a toxic thread to make fun of Beetees and their faces and mannerisms which is just plain rude.
4. Connecting even the smallest thing such as slipping to the elites is just pathetic. They are humans. I'm myself slip, stay awake till 4 am, act weird sometimes. Humans are like that. Stop being so silly.
At this point, this thread should be renamed to 'BTS hating discussion thread'
4. Some of you need education. Y'all are so backward minded and never consider the scientific reasons behind things and always preach 'Lord Lord' and 'devil devil'. It's laughable. Go to school. Some of y'all's theories are too dumb. Someone's lip is swollen? Illuminati confirmed.
Pathetic and ridiculous.
I needed to get that off my chest. I unapologetically admit I'm an ARMY an I'm interested in the Illuminati and conspiracy theories, so I read this thread here and there.
Some of y'all are just plain haters. You still listen to kpop and then preach how Satanic Beetees and some of the artists you hate are.
Beetees are doing all this under the influence of their company. They don't have a say now and your faves aren't some innocent god loving babies. They'd gladly take Beetees' place.
The thing is they ARE extremely more talented than your faves and worked their butts off to be where they are.
Hate me if you want. I don't care.

you can believe what you want...but I am just telling you a fact...BTS being popular HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING TALENTED...and it have everything to do with the Illuminati promoting them for their specific agenda

and I personally never wanted my favorite celebrities to reach to BTS fame bcz that mean they have to sacrifice people like Jonghyun and others who was sacrificed...no I prefer them staying not famous over all of these murders