2020 General Election Thread

Lyfe

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Im not voting this year, but if I did vote it would obviously be for Trump. People can judge him for his character and the sort of remarks he makes, but as a nation nobody really has any right to considering his character reflects your average childish short tempered potty mouthed American.
 

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You could just say my name if your talking to me...

I am more liberal, sure. But I am not a democrat by any stretch of the imagination. Being one would require supporting the DNC and I absolutely do not.

I also do not share most of your conservative/republican views.

So what does that make me? An independent? A libertarian socialist? I’m not entirely sure. I am however sure I am not a democrat.

why does everyone need to be placed in a neat/tidy little box?

You sure do act like one at times, lol. Would liberal work better for some?
 

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If I were talking of you, I would say so. FTR, I am actually a registered Libertarian. Firstly, I was just nudging you, but if you are most often found in social justice discussions, then my bet is I am not the only one who would assume you are a democrat. I am not even happy with switching from the democratic party to libertarian and will be an independent next year. FTR, I have never been a registered republican but have leaned more that way than the dems way for a few years now. There were zero choices when Obama won two presidencies and we are in that situation now. I never like Trumps bluster, but I liked he is not in the MIC's pocket and he slowed the roll of social justice absurdities. I see Trump as a populist more than a republican. His own party was dirty as hell and jumped ship like rats when he won. FTR, I think the dems will pull out all stops legal and not to win tonight. And for that reason, I am in no way one thinking Trump will win for sure tonight.
 
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We all used to agree they were ALL evil. Then a surprising number of you jumped on the trump train. You’d be hard pressed to find a “democrat” on this site. I don’t know any.
I don’t think you’ll find any MAGAtards here, either, but doesn’t it seem strange to you that along comes a president who has never been in politics, who goes on to give Americans jobs, security and hope, while starting zero wars, and yet is continuously lied about and attacked by the mainstream media, Hollywood, the establishment and the global elite? That doesn’t make you think he’s not part of all that? So far Trump has done nothing that makes me think he is just like the Bush family, the Clintons, etc. He’s the most anti-globalist president I can remember, and you would think that alone would mean something, but nope, it’s straight from CNN to you to us, isn’t it? OrANge MAn bAD!!!
 

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I think Trump will be re-elected. As openly vile as he is, Biden’s cognitive decline is hard to miss. They couldn’t have chosen an easier opponent for Trump.
 

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What I find paradoxical is how many people and ads telling me to get out and vote. I never really understood that, because in telling someone else to vote their is a 50/50 chance they are voting for someone who doesnt favor your best interests nor what you believe to be the countries...
Voting reinforces the false right-left paradigm
 

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If I were talking of you, I would say so. FTR, I am actually a registered Libertarian. Firstly, I was just nudging you, but if you are most often found in social justice discussions, then my bet is I am not the only one who would assume you are a democrat. I am not even happy with switching from the democratic party to libertarian and will be an independent next year. FTR, I have never been a registered republican but have leaned more that way than the dems way for a few years now. There were zero choices when Obama won two presidencies and we are in that situation now. I never like Trumps bluster, but I liked he is not in the MIC's pocket and he slowed the roll of social justice absurdities. I see Trump as a populist more than a republican. His own party was dirty as hell and jumped ship like rats when he won. FTR, I think the dems will pull out all stops legal and not to win tonight. And for that reason, I am in no way one thinking Trump will win for sure tonight.
I give a shit about disadvantaged communities. Guilty as charged. But I don’t like identity politics (I’ve said a million times it’s just a distraction from the actual culprit - $$$) and that’s the Democrats whole thing. Just like abortion and guns and no taxes is the Republicans thing. Can’t get on board with that either.

My beliefs are simple: money is the root of all evil, people deserve to be paid fairly for hard work, certain basic necessities should not hinge on a lottery system, and people and the government should stay out of other people’s personal business. I do not know what that makes me and I really don’t care.

But I am not a democrat. To be a democrat you have to support the democrat party. I do not. Agreeing with them in some minuscule way on some policy issues does not make you a democrat. Any more then agreeing with the republicans on some policy issues would make me a republican. Why do people need to be in boxes?

Edit: what’s that old saying about assumptions? Also.. no need for assumptions when I’ve made me stance clear numerous times and am always willing to reply to questions when asked them. Unless your a handful of posters... but you aren’t in that handful and you know that
 
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I don’t think you’ll find any MAGAtards here, either, but doesn’t it seem strange to you that along comes a president who has never been in politics, who goes on to give Americans jobs, security and hope, while starting zero wars, and yet is continuously lied about and attacked by the mainstream media, Hollywood, the establishment and the global elite? That doesn’t make you think he’s not part of all that? So far Trump has done nothing that makes me think he is just like the Bush family, the Clintons, etc. He’s the most anti-globalist president I can remember, and you would think that alone would mean something, but nope, it’s straight from CNN to you to us, isn’t it? OrANge MAn bAD!!!
I don’t have tv so I don’t know what cnn is saying. I didn’t watch cnn even when I had tv. It’s a funny indictment coming from someone who sounds like he stepped off a Fox News program tho..

I live here. Please try to remember that. All those pretty little stories your hearing from Fox about all the good trumps done for the American people... are stories unless your a certain class of American. This was true before corona as well and we’ve had this discussion. He has not done a single thing that has benefited me personally and I haven’t seen the benefits from anything he has done in my community either. It’s a fairy tale. Kudos for not starting new wars but you are missing the forest for the trees - our military is still extremely overextended, he hasn’t brought our troops home as promised, we are still at war, and our military budget continues to increase exponentially. Just “not starting a new war” isn’t good enough.

you have never seen me stump for Biden and never will. For some one who claims not to be a trumpet Or a republican you sure do stump for him an awful lot.
 
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Ever wonder why Hollywood, the music industry, MSM, witches etc are all in on the left these days? How do Dems here feel about being in league with the ones this forum talks the most about?
Wait, there are Dems here? (Dude, if there were any dems/libs here I wouldn’t have to waste time poking fun at conservatives)

On a related note, who is this fellow “in-league” with I wonder?
 

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Not ANOTHER faker he man fly by:) People scared of white supremacists also fear the easter bunny. There are just not enough of them to worry about the group. That is the problem, the labeling and the out of control PC movement.
 
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Not ANOTHER faker he man fly by:) People scared of white supremacists also fear the easter bunny. There are just not enough of them to worry about the group. That is the problem, the labeling and the out of control PC movement.
No one is scared of white supremacists. They’re the most cowardly of all. I’m just wondering why they love Trump so much... (just kidding, I already know why)
 

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Trump just wants their vote. They would all go for the republican, so Trump is nothing special. I have seen pockets of the country with Trumpers that make me cringe recently, but in the end it is always about personal policies I will have to adhere to with the winner. I know what happens if the lefts puppet wins and then there are those above them all who control the strings but not in the perfect manner some seem to think here. Another year. More chaos. No matter who wins, there will be chaos.
 
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Trump just wants their vote. They would all go for the republican, so Trump is nothing special. I have seen pockets of the country with Trumpers that make me cringe recently, but in the end it is always about personal policies I will have to adhere to with the winner. I know what happens if the lefts puppet wins and then there are those above them all who control the strings but not in the perfect manner some seem to think here. Another year. More chaos. No matter who wins, there will be chaos.
You honestly fall for the propaganda that tries to sell conservatives on the idea that Biden is somehow the left’s puppet? He’s a puppet alright, but he’s a puppet of the center-right corporatists, definitely not “the left”. Sure, he would be under some pressure from a few leftists if he won, but he would never deliver on anything at all because that’s not his agenda. Not that it matters... Trump will win again.
 
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And are you blind to the fact that Biden is not exactly the sharpest of mind these days? Blah, blah, blah. Propaganda is all the left has pushed since the last election -- sore losers who then became obsessed for four years. I mean, just take the loss and do something positive and vote Trump out tonight instead of a chaotic clown show where adults act like whiney children. The clown show could go for both sides, the right is kooky in their own way.
 
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And are you blind to the fact that Biden is not exactly the sharpest of mind these days? Blah, blah, blah. Propaganda is all the left has pushed since the last election -- sore losers who then became obsessed for four years. I mean, just take the loss and do something positive and vote Trump out tonight instead of a chaotic clown show where adults act like whiney children. The clown show could go for both sides, the right is kooky in their own way.
You should definitely read this. You might learn a thing or two:

“Liberals are just rightists who understand how to market rightist policies.”

Corporate Fluffers: Notes From The Edge Of The Narrative Matrix
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/10/22/corporate-fluffers-notes-from-the-edge-of-the-narrative-matrix/
 
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Isn’t Florida the only state where you can’t vote before paying off fines? That’s f*cked up. If jury duty is mandatory, then voting should also be mandatory. It’s only fair.
 
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