1)
The Zechariah 12 and Ezekiel 38 type prophecies concern the real Israel of all 12 tribes and it's fulfillment eg 'nations reeling' is at least in the aftermath of the destruction of the Beast system.
Islam also believes in the above and even in the Quran 17:104 this is mentioned. The GATHERING OF BANI ISRAEL.
104. And We said unto the Children of Israel after him: Dwell in the land; but when the promise of the Hereafter cometh to pass We shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations.
This is not to be confused with a state that hijacked the name Israel, is ruled by ashkenazi khazarians who themselves are part of the Gog & Magog camp who also happen to be the camp that was the synagogue of satan kicked out of the holy land.
As ive explained, the true remnant never left the holy land. Ive explained how this perfectly fits together with what Jesus told them in Luke 21 and how that makes them the remnant in Zechariah 13.
You also have to understand that people may identify as muslim whilst only being muslim in name...likewise prophet Mohammad himself spoke of an eschatological figure who will claim he is Syed (the name of the descendants of prophet Mohammad) but prophet Mohammad rejected the claim because that person won't be 'God fearing'. Hence this whole topic is close to my heart. When I went deep into the metaphysical experience, it led to a major discovery that hidden amongst muslims were an entire cabal/network of 'SYEDS' (in name) who were quite literally serving iblees/satan and doing all types of damage to muslims. So wherever you see a muslim community, it is ripped apart from sorcery and demonic influences that have been planted and spread by this 'cabal'. When i tried to explain this to certain people they would respond 'you know that man is a SYED, he is a descendant of our prophet, treat him with respect'.
you're aware of how muslims abuse this 'blasphemy' rule right? who do you think created it as move to murder anyone who stands upto them? so as i would open my mouth id get told 'be careful, they'll say you're a blasphemer and murder you'.
I was arguing against them all saying that 'such people cannot be descendants of the prophet' and i would go on about 'faith and light'.
the truth is, i read the bible only aftert his period as i was on my way out of the little 'sufi' experience and had decided i was on my own path.
so it's the same type of argument im making here against modern israel. Eg i see people hijacking spiritual/religious/messianic ideals whilst they have no share in any of it and are rotten.
Yes God is Merciful and Forgiving and furthermore, a son is not guilty of his fathers sin. However when we go into the territory of organised networks/cabals, that is when we talk of a 'synagogue of satan'.
read this hadith
(4230) Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar: When we were sitting with the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), he talked about periods of trial (fitnahs), mentioning many of them. When he mentioned the one when people should stay in their houses, some asked him: Apostle of Allah, what is the trial (fitnah) of staying at home? He replied: It will be flight and plunder. Then will come a test which is pleasant. Its murkiness is due to the fact that it is produced by a man from the people of my house, who will assert that he belongs to me, whereas he does not, for my friends are only the God-fearing. Then the people will unite under a man who will be like a hip-bone on a rib. Then there will be the little black trial which will leave none of this community without giving him a slap, and when people say that it is finished, it will be extended. During it a man will be a believer in the morning and an infidel in the evening, so that the people will be in two camps: the camp of faith which will contain no hypocrisy, and the camp of hypocrisy which will contain no faith. When that happens, expect the Antichrist (Dajjal) that day or the next.
two camps right? this happened to the jewish people, a remnant of believers vs the camp that was turfed out and is now the wh*re of babylon/synagogue of satan.
Here's another perspective from the Quran
O you who believe! Be you helpers (in the Cause) of Allah as said 'Îsa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), to the Hawariyyun (the disciples): "Who are my helpers (in the Cause) of Allah?" The Hawariyyun (the disciples) said: "We are Allah's helpers" (i.e. we will strive in His Cause!). Then a group of the Children of Israel believed and a group disbelieved. So We gave power to those who believed against their enemies, and they became the victorious (uppermost).
(سورة الصف, As-Saff, Chapter #61, Verse #14)
btw ive used this to prove that pauline christianity is the true christianity not a false version...and any i mplication that true christianity was lost...in that early time period...is contradicting the Quran.
now apply this to prophecies like Revelation 12. Remember all the things ive said about the 1260days/yrs, gentile rule over the temple mount and how it's fulfilled by islam...and then you see how in Rev 12 we're told that the true remnant would find shelter 'in the wilderness for 1260 yrs' and it perfectly fits with what's happened with the creation of israel and it's war against a people.....most of whom are likely the real jews.
Luke 21
12 “But before all this, they will seize you and persecute you. They will hand you over to synagogues and put you in prison, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. 13 And so you will bear testimony to me. 14 But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. 15 For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. 16 You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers and sisters, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. 17 Everyone will hate you because of me. 18 But not a hair of your head will perish. 19 Stand firm, and you will win life.
20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. 22 For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. 23 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. 24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
get it? it was jew against jew...2 camps.
the 'believers' would have followed Jesus's advice and fled to the mountains whilst the rest remained and were the camp who were turfed out of the holy land.
the camp who survived, remained. they are the remnant.
“Awake, sword, against my shepherd,
against the man who is close to me!”
declares the Lord Almighty.
“Strike the shepherd,
and the sheep will be scattered,
and I will turn my hand against the little ones.
8 In the whole land,” declares the Lord,
“two-thirds will be struck down and perish;
yet one-third will be left in it.
9 This third I will put into the fire;
I will refine them like silver
and test them like gold.
They will call on my name
and I will answer them;
I will say, ‘They are my people,’
and they will say, ‘The Lord is our God.’”
the refining they experienced....was not from the roman invasion, but from the period before that
16 You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers and sisters, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. 17 Everyone will hate you because of me. 18 But not a hair of your head will perish. 19 Stand firm, and you will win life.
2)
all references of a RETURN refer to the 10 tribes and the totality of ISRAEL, not judea..
there is no 'jewish return' from our perspective.
you have jews themselves as they are identified, who reject Jesus and naturally believe in their own messianic kingdom and their own messiah.
ive touched on this before
eg the 7th century jewish-sassanian conquest of jerusalem...which was a messianic attempt.
yet instead prophet Mohammad manifested as 'the prophet'./
this fits with the Leviticus 26 punishments theme...eg they planted the seeds of their archetypal messiah. This fits into the whole theme of works vs faith (in the Quran chapter 81, it is the Moses and Khidr story). The LAW is under the flesh/ego and hence under the law of duality, whereas Faith is the death of the ego and hence a position of unity. In rejecting Jesus they instead remained under dualism and it is this dualism that is playingo ut.
it was Jews in persia, against the west. 'good east vs evil west' (from their pov). King Khosrow as a 'cyrus' type figure.
they planted the seed, but it was the 'enemy who ate the fruit' eg it was an arab/ishmaelite/gentile prophet and the entire age of islam.
hence what is happening today is a major attempt to reverse the polarity. look at how perfectly it fits with the number 1260 though...exactly 1260 yrs of islamic ruler over the holy land? that isnt just a coincidence is it?
but more than that, as soon as that period ended..it's now 'war against the children' (Rev 12).
on top of all that, you have the fact that Jerusalem after the 1260 yrs is 'a city like sodom and egypt' and so forth.
yet you're not just pro future messianic Jesus Israel, you're pro modern/current israel and anti islam/palestinian too for that matter.
You're very specifically promoting guys like tsarfati who are obsessed with creating a 'good west vs evil east' war in order to reverse the polarity so they might attain their messianic empire...and it is only leading to the false messiah/worthless shepherd (Zechariah 11).
3) The star of David is a persian black magic symbol.
i dont have the imagery to share directly...i used to have a few links and youtube vids on the topic. even till this day in the muslim world, black magicians use the star of david symbol for amulets of sorcery.
if this symbol was used by jews, its because of their affinity with persia historically.
you have full knowledge that the people who own that state..are baal worshippers..how ironic?
4) you can convince yourself that 'oh even if they're sinful, there is going to be a remnant amongst this camp' because what you're doing is misinterpreting Zech 13, mixing it with Zech 12 'nations reeling'
these are different events entirely.
as i explained one is the 70AD destruction of jerusalem which seperates the true remnant from the synagogue of satan/whore.
the other is the Gog & Magog messianic event.
if all that wasnt enough you have full knowledge that this state/version is in direct 180 contrast to the messianic themes in Ezekiel 38...and if that stillw asnt enough, they're lactose intolerant.
i mean....all that and you still promote them? very suspect.
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