BTS discussion thread

[arhur12]

OMG I didn't know that happened to Leeteuk, and that's so damn sad! Also mean. How are you gonna tell someone that serving their country is more important than grieving the loss of their dad and being there for their family? His family almost had a second tragedy because of what the military did. In those "regular day/idol day" poster images BT5 released a while back, YG states in his that he gets physical therapy, probably for his shoulder. That's a pretty normal thing to get post-surgery. It's not his fault he got run over and ended up with this problem. So he has to be in public service, and he gets judged even harder for it when that is outside his control. Then he makes the mistake of driving drunk on a scooter down the sidewalk, and boom, it's all a mess.

It's not his fault and I hope he has support from his company and fans but Armies too need to understand that this is not some kind of conspiracy to destroy BTS members. This is just how Koreans treat military service. I still feel bad for T.O.P because he almost died because of Knetz and the sad thing is Knetz still haven't forgiven him completely. He has kept himself away from public eye to this day because of the horrible things he had to suffer during his military service. I remember reading somewhere that his mother even begged for Knetz to stop the hate towards him.

Did you know they even make stage 1-2 cancer patients enlist in military service? Korean males have said they even served in active duty with broken bones and physical disabilities. One person I read about was forced to serve with a brain tumor and there were some articles circulating on the international side about hazing in K-military service and statistics that show every day 3 persons doing military service die by suicide or try to kill themselves. The K-military service system is f**ked up and idols who get caught in scandals during military service have their reputations tarnished forever.
Leetuk's case was less of a scandal and more a tragedy so he didn't receive too much hate but the fact they even threw hate in the first place is infuriating.


However, I will say when Taemin's mental breakdown happened he didn't receive much hate and in some ways came out with an even better public image because some people who served with him in the military quickly came out to defend his character saying nice things about him but had to disclose that he was taking 6-8 depression pills per day, experiencing severe panic attacks and that the transfer was necessary for his sake so no celebrity privilege happened. Therefore, maybe if someone from the K-military side who served with Suga comes out and defends his character the hate train will die down. Hyb3 needs to do better to protect him and instead of making him apologize again and again maybe try to gather witnesses who can defend his character. Hyb3 already fumbled by lying about the case which created the mess we are in. Really, that company is stupid and then trying to manipulate information is going to make Suga's case even worse.

 

[lal golapi]

It's not his fault and I hope he has support from his company and fans but Armies too need to understand that this is not some kind of conspiracy to destroy BTS members. This is just how Koreans treat military service. I still feel bad for T.O.P because he almost died because of Knetz and the sad thing is Knetz still haven't forgiven him completely. He has kept himself away from public eye to this day because of the horrible things he had to suffer during his military service. I remember reading somewhere that his mother even begged for Knetz to stop the hate towards him.

Did you know they even make stage 1-2 cancer patients enlist in military service? Korean males have said they even served in active duty with broken bones and physical disabilities. One person I read about was forced to serve with a brain tumor and there were some articles circulating on the international side about hazing in K-military service and statistics that show every day 3 persons doing military service die by suicide or try to kill themselves. The K-military service system is f**ked up and idols who get caught in scandals during military service have their reputations tarnished forever.
Leetuk's case was less of a scandal and more a tragedy so he didn't receive too much hate but the fact they even threw hate in the first place is infuriating.


However, I will say when Taemin's mental breakdown happened he didn't receive much hate and in some ways came out with an even better public image because some people who served with him in the military quickly came out to defend his character saying nice things about him but had to disclose that he was taking 6-8 depression pills per day, experiencing severe panic attacks and that the transfer was necessary for his sake so no celebrity privilege happened. Therefore, maybe if someone from the K-military side who served with Suga comes out and defends his character the hate train will die down. Hyb3 needs to do better to protect him and instead of making him apologize again and again maybe try to gather witnesses who can defend his character. Hyb3 already fumbled by lying about the case which created the mess we are in. Really, that company is stupid and then trying to manipulate information is going to make Suga's case even worse.

An apology of the real incident after 20 days from the occurance is a joke. He never apologized in the first apology. It was a nonsensical made up story, probably because they thought they can cover it up but caught off-guard when the truths got exposed. When the real incidents were keep coming out, where was he? Why he didn't correct anything? Why he didn't apologize about the real incident even when the real footages were coming out? He expected hybe along with high ranking police and terrorist fans to take care of the mess. He dumped all the responsibilities on hybe and expected people to cool down about the dui and his lying a**. He and hybe waited over eligible 2 weeks to do damage control and till the police investigation was done. After that he is posting some half ass sorry post where he writes shits like "I didn't think deeply about the last apology". Why anyone needs to think deeply to tell the truth? He says he wrote that hastily when it was an elaborated, well articulated lies after lies mixed with false scenarios and heavy emotions. He used the same sort of deep felt wordings in the last one too. Which sane person is gonna believe the 2nd apology with almost the same wordings after being gaslighted with false statements for 20 days? This 2nd apology just comes off as a factor to be used to reduce down his punishment. Y'all need to realize he ain't sorry for any of his deeds--the dui, the lies or anything else. He is just sad none of his and hybe's strategies worked out the way they wanted and now he is facing some social repercussions. Im personally waiting to see what revolutionary fabrications they come up with in the police report lol.

 

[arhur12]

An apology of the real incident after 20 days from the occurance is a joke. He never apologized in the first apology. It was a nonsensical made up story, probably because they thought they can cover it up but caught off-guard when the truths got exposed. When the real incidents were keep coming out, where was he? Why he didn't correct anything? Why he didn't apologize about the real incident even when the real footages were coming out? He expected hybe along with high ranking police and terrorist fans to take care of the mess. He dumped all the responsibilities on hybe and expected people to cool down about the dui and his lying a**. He and hybe waited over eligible 2 weeks to do damage control and till the police investigation was done. After that he is posting some half ass sorry post where he writes shits like "I didn't think deeply about the last apology". Why anyone needs to think deeply to tell the truth? He says he wrote that hastily when it was an elaborated, well articulated lies after lies mixed with false scenarios and heavy emotions. He used the same sort of deep felt wordings in the last one too. Which sane person is gonna believe the 2nd apology with almost the same wordings after being gaslighted with false statements for 20 days? This 2nd apology just comes off as a factor to be used to reduce down his punishment. Y'all need to realize he ain't sorry for any of his deeds--the dui, the lies or anything else. He is just sad none of his and hybe's strategies worked out the way they wanted and now he is facing some social repercussions. Im personally waiting to see what revolutionary fabrications they come up with in the police report lol.

Well, I don't know much about the details of this case because I was kinda late to the party and only became aware when Suga was called for public questioning by the police and from what I read here everyone was saying he was being targeted unfairly so I thought maybe the members are right and he is receiving too much hate and I haven't read the apology. I will say though that I believe in the concept of Karma and what you sow so shall you reap and Suga has always given me bad vibes. Like, not the he is a criminal kind of vibes but he seems arrogant and felt like the success got to his head so maybe this is just God's way to humble him. Also, Hyb3 is hella manipulative and like him very arrogant and what they did by blatantly lying about the case was wrong.

What I am trying to say is Kpop fans always say their favs are innocent babies and can't do no wrong and when any idol gets into a scandal the narrative is always that they are being unfairly treated but sometimes the scandals and how the scandal affects their images could be related to their karma. Like, the idols who got out of serious scandals looking good could actually be decent people in real life and the idols who have their image tarnished could be receiving some kind of karma for their bad behavior. Like, T.O.P while I sympathize with him I also know Big Bang as a whole were pretty messed up so I can't really say what happened to him was wrong because I don't know him and maybe at that time he was doing some illegal stuff for which he deserved punishment and that could be true for Suga too. He could have actually been irresponsible on his job and abused his celebrity privilege because if he was the shining citizen Armies think he is wouldn't his colleagues or someone from his higher ups in the military have come out in his defense by now? The scandal is not 2 days old its been a month and so far no evidence in favor of him? maybe because he was really at fault and is being fairly treated because you can't buy respect with money and will only have people defending you if you are a good person.

 

[e-Enoch]

In this Official MV of Spring Day, it's interesting how Suga in the first segment, was the only one sitting on a huge pile of old clothes...

 

[e-Enoch]

 

[Hav3_U_H3ard]

Well, I don't know much about the details of this case because I was kinda late to the party and only became aware when Suga was called for public questioning by the police and from what I read here everyone was saying he was being targeted unfairly so I thought maybe the members are right and he is receiving too much hate and I haven't read the apology. I will say though that I believe in the concept of Karma and what you sow so shall you reap and Suga has always given me bad vibes. Like, not the he is a criminal kind of vibes but he seems arrogant and felt like the success got to his head so maybe this is just God's way to humble him. Also, Hyb3 is hella manipulative and like him very arrogant and what they did by blatantly lying about the case was wrong.

What I am trying to say is Kpop fans always say their favs are innocent babies and can't do no wrong and when any idol gets into a scandal the narrative is always that they are being unfairly treated but sometimes the scandals and how the scandal affects their images could be related to their karma. Like, the idols who got out of serious scandals looking good could actually be decent people in real life and the idols who have their image tarnished could be receiving some kind of karma for their bad behavior. Like, T.O.P while I sympathize with him I also know Big Bang as a whole were pretty messed up so I can't really say what happened to him was wrong because I don't know him and maybe at that time he was doing some illegal stuff for which he deserved punishment and that could be true for Suga too. He could have actually been irresponsible on his job and abused his celebrity privilege because if he was the shining citizen Armies think he is wouldn't his colleagues or someone from his higher ups in the military have come out in his defense by now? The scandal is not 2 days old its been a month and so far no evidence in favor of him? maybe because he was really at fault and is being fairly treated because you can't buy respect with money and will only have people defending you if you are a good person.

How did Suga and Hybe blatantly lie about the case? Wasn’t it K-Media that spread false information? I read Suga’s 2nd written apology btw, and it came across sincere to me.

 

[Hav3_U_H3ard]

In this Official MV of Spring Day, it's interesting how Suga in the first segment, was the only one sitting on a huge pile of old clothes...

Interesting observation. Where are you going with this, if you don’t mind?

 

[theartbook35]

Suga’s DUI incident prompts Samsung to reconsider brand ambassador role

In the wake of BTS member Suga’s recent DUI (driving under the influence) controversy, reports have emerged indicating that Samsung Electroni…

www.allkpop.com

Interesting....

 

[theartbook35]

The complicated reality for YG and BT5 as a whole, is that exclusivity we talked about on here a few pages back. Samsung signed with the group, and even though it was only YG with a controversy, that could still be a breach of contract. I assume this because it wouldn't make sense for Samsung not to say that the group as a whole or individual members can't have controversies that'd impact the group's image.

So in the article I shared above, when the Samsung rep. mentions YG leaving BT5, this exclusivity is what they're referring to. Due to the potential contract violation, they cannot conduct business with the group anymore, unless the cause of the contract violation leaves. But I think the issue too is that even if he does leave, his controversy could have broke the contract between BT5 and Samsung, so the group might lose their deal with Samsung anyway. Might. Because like they said, they could also keep BT5 as ambassadors if YG leaves. Or, conversely, they drop BT5 as a whole.

What I wonder about is how this DUI issue is going to effect future brand deals for the group. Will there be a lot of "Yeah, no thanks" from brands, or will they still get brand deals because of their immense popularity internationally?

It's a weird position too because if YG stays, the BT5 image is damaged to some extent. If he leaves, the BT5 OT7 brand is damaged to some extent. However, Koreans are very big on supporting the remaining members. I think international fans are the ones who will be harder to win over with a six member line up.

 

[Beautiful]

Jk has a road accident scene in his song
V also has a road accident scene in his mv

Do you think this may be related to sg incident, predictive programming? what do u guys think

 

[Strawberrypie]

BTS created BTS! 'Pop Star Academy: KATSEYE' documentary trailer ignites ARMY fury over HYBE creating the boy group...

The series has been produced by HYBE, Interscope Films, and Boardwalk Pictures and will stream on Netflix on August 21, 2024.

Updated : August 06, 2024 07:38 PM IST
Karen Noronha

Pop Star Academy: KATSEYE

BTS created BTS! 'Pop Star Academy: KATSEYE' documentary trailer ignites ARMY fury over HYBE creating the boy group

BTS created BTS! 'Pop Star Academy: KATSEYE' documentary trailer ignites ARMY fury over HYBE creating the boy group

www.desimartini.com

BT7 and the @rmy name are something B@ng created. It's a product, and not just 7 creative men getting together to make music. Even with their own talents, Hybe molded them into their current forms. They're always crying over every tiny thing.

 

[Strawberrypie]

But if Suga's scandal,was a cover or a distraction from something else?

Maybe a way out? Hybe was exposed for working with loansharks. There's a lot of debt.

 

[minnie82]

Maybe a way out? Hybe was exposed for working with loansharks. There's a lot of debt.

Yes i'm not surprised ,everything could be possible

 

[e-Enoch]

 

[e-Enoch]

Maybe a way out? Hybe was exposed for working with loansharks. There's a lot of debt.

As a corporation/conglomerate, Hybe is prohibited from taking loans from illegal sources such as from loansharks because it will lose its license to operate...

 

[theartbook35]

As a corporation/conglomerate, Hybe is prohibited from taking loans from illegal sources such as from loansharks because it will lose its license to operate...

Yeah, if they were truly exposed then they would be inoperable. SK gov't isn't going to allow any company, even one as large as Hive, to continue if they had actually taken money from loansharks.

Unless...

They did it prior to BT5's debut, and/or during their early debut years. See, some things made sense like the TV appearances, a lucky stage collab in 2014 during MAMA, but the intense popularity of GLAM early on and the suddenly good promotion, then the blackmailing incident, is suspicious. There's no direct evidence of loansharks, but Bang Pedo's bank account wasn't a bottomless pit so the surprise wealth and opportunities had to come from somewhere. BH was a company that nobody had heard of, and even with Pedo as the CEO, they didn't have the reputation to earn any kind of promotion or deals. (Think of groups from YG and SM that get a brand deal right as they debut). And maybe, just maybe, it was so long ago and BH was so unknown back then that they got away with it. That's all speculative, of course.

Would BH or Hive mess around with loansharks today? Lol, they make billions annually so no, I don't think so.

 

[e-Enoch]

Lol! This American host doesn’t even know Jungkook's name...introduces him as "Dynamite..."

Jungkook reaction when the host called him Dynamite #fypシ゚#viral#jungkook#bts @Bangtan_boys13.7

youtube.com

 

[e-Enoch]

RunJin episode...Jin & kids having a brat off...

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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[minnie82]

Lol! This American host doesn’t even know Jungkook's name...introduces him as "Dynamite..."

Jungkook reaction when the host called him Dynamite #fypシ゚#viral#jungkook#bts @Bangtan_boys13.7

youtube.com

That's hilarious

 

[daughter of the most high]

Guys Taemin danced with Ashley Everett Beyonce's dance captain and other top-class dancers who have worked for Madonna, MJ, Beyonce etc on Music Bank today for a performance worth $37 loll (I just learned they pay idols only $36-37 for music show performances)


I wanna ask have BTS ever danced with world renown dancers like this? Like in real time for a performance? I know they have collabed with many western artists but most of those collabs felt like cash grabs to me and that JkayxUsher Collab just proved how good Usher is compared to Jkay. I wanna see them perform with world-class dancers to measure how talented they actually are and whether they can keep up with world class professionals

oh boy you are seriously blind…black dancers black magic. water worship. mami wata. juju. voodoo mixed with shamanism you can imagine.

that’s not something you should be happy about in fact it should ring the ALRAM of how deep in the occult he is…

lilith/jezebel taking over

sexy in the air->sex in the air->perverse spirit in the air that’s what it’s all about. veil off. veil open. veil between the dimensions rips off.
perversion spirit=love of venus=perverse/twisted love

once you understand that dancing is literally fighting in the spirit and so is singing then everything will become clear i hope… so you can imagine the spells people’s dear taemin is putting upon them. those how people become obsessed because of the spells and because the fans are already in the web of satan because of the spells coming from their very own family members (yes im speaking of words the words said the words you say have the power to tie you up in ways you cant imagine and prepare you for an even bigger web web within web)