Important Message To Forum Members

[JoChris]

The one thing you leave out Aero in the above definition is practices. It therefore includes what you do as well as what you think and tell other people.

 

[Antipapirus]

If you're self-conscious about your spelling, you could always type your entry in latest Wordperfect first (can't remember name - can others help?), do spell-check and THEN cut-and-paste into this forum.
That is what I would do any way.

Thank you so much, i will try to do that

 

[Antipapirus]

.....both

Let's start with the physical level control
Various groups of very smart and rich people in the year 1776 came together and decided to make a plan to conquer the world, with their unlimited wealth and power they constructed the western world you see today from scratch- they control to very high degree all: education- entertainment- medicine - politics- military - economy.
They started every major revolution since 1600 - Napoleon, Hitler, Mao, Fidel Castro, Che Jabara, the sexual revolution, feminism, homosexuality, transgender, black life matters, Antifa - you get the picture.
The control today is made through a highly sophisticated form of MK Ultra mind control, the average child watches more violence than a combat soldier does in his whole service, there are pornography and sex everywhere,
Cartoon network and Disney and all children content manufacturers are all ocupated by satanic pedophiles who mastered the art of MK Ultra and they are experts on how to change your child's brain.

Then we are controlled through chemical and vaccines which are an information downloaded to our "pc-human body", these guys have technology which surpasses the current one by 150 years at least so they download info into us through food, vaccines, and wawes - wi-fi - blue tooth, radio, emf ETC, this info doesn't allow you to ascend ,it makes you sick and act in specific negative ways.
We are controlled by other people, because this is a prison in which the prisoners are the guardians - if i"ll try explaining to someone in Israel that the Holocaust was not as it seemed I will get lynched - I would do it to me 3 years ago.
We are controlled by satellites who project a field on us which makes us act very negative and feel depressed.[ its a form of control ].
On the spiritual level, there are negative 5 density beings which are existing on an energetic level and they can influence our decision and thoughts to a degree depending on how much you let them.
Don't do channeling and spirit summoning, that's their main form of entrance, and if you do then be very careful.

 

[mecca]

They started every major revolution since 1600 - Napoleon, Hitler, Mao, Fidel Castro, Che Jabara, the sexual revolution, feminism, homosexuality, transgender, black life matters, Antifa - you get the picture.

Did they start them or influence and manipulate them to support their agendas?

 

[Antipapirus]

Did they start them or influence and manipulate them to support their agendas?

It's a combination of starting it from scratch and riding the wave while directing it , but starting it from zero is their favourite

 

[Haich]

Could you expand on your views on the holocaust? I know some people don't believe it happened and others believe it was 'exaggerated'

 

[rainerann]

So, where is your base for this information? Is this based on personal experience like a whistleblower; or, is this based on research?

If it is based on research, why do you believe this research if it would contradict experience in theory if you are not basing your beliefs on your personal experience?

 

[Antipapirus]

So, where is your base for this information? Is this based on personal experience like a whistleblower; or, is this based on research?

If it is based on research, why do you believe this research if it would contradict experience in theory if you are not basing your beliefs on your personal experience?

No, I'm not a whistleblower, one of my abilities is to connect with my higher self, ask for guidance to sources of info, and by using my mental capacity of gathering and organizing info from many sources who I find credible I can build a whole picture of a subject.
Many people in this field are deep in their egos and cannot expand there was because they are stuck in their own mental jail
For example, dr steven Greer is a wonderful person a super smart but he believes all ET are positive and calls all those who oppose his views as psyop agents - so I took his best info and moved on.
I built a whole image and I want to share it with you all

 

[Antipapirus]

If it is based on research, why do you believe this research if it would contradict experience in theory if you are not basing your beliefs on your personal experience?

I believe it to be true because I educated my self hard and long and I choose to believe it based on the belief that i can make my own mind and reach conclusions, NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO HAVE TOTAL PROOF IN ORDER TO EXIST

 

[JoChris]

Let's start with the physical level control
Various groups of very smart and rich people in the year 1776 came together and decided to make a plan to conquer the world, with their unlimited wealth and power they constructed the western world you see today from scratch- they control to very high degree all: education- entertainment- medicine - politics- military - economy.
They started every major revolution since 1600 - Napoleon, Hitler, Mao, Fidel Castro, Che Jabara, the sexual revolution, feminism, homosexuality, transgender, black life matters, Antifa - you get the picture.
The control today is made through a highly sophisticated form of MK Ultra mind control, the average child watches more violence than a combat soldier does in his whole service, there are pornography and sex everywhere,
Cartoon network and Disney and all children content manufacturers are all ocupated by satanic pedophiles who mastered the art of MK Ultra and they are experts on how to change your child's brain.

Then we are controlled through chemical and vaccines which are an information downloaded to our "pc-human body", these guys have technology which surpasses the current one by 150 years at least so they download info into us through food, vaccines, and wawes - wi-fi - blue tooth, radio, emf ETC, this info doesn't allow you to ascend ,it makes you sick and act in specific negative ways.
We are controlled by other people, because this is a prison in which the prisoners are the guardians - if i"ll try explaining to someone in Israel that the Holocaust was not as it seemed I will get lynched - I would do it to me 3 years ago.
We are controlled by satellites who project a field on us which makes us act very negative and feel depressed.[ its a form of control ].
On the spiritual level, there are negative 5 density beings which are existing on an energetic level and they can influence our decision and thoughts to a degree depending on how much you let them.
Don't do channeling and spirit summoning, that's their main form of entrance, and if you do then be very careful.

At the beginning you contradict yourself by dates.
If a group was only established in 1776 they cannot possibly be responsible for every revolution since 1600.
Did you make a typo, meaning 1800 not 1600?

 

[rainerann]

I believe it to be true because I educated my self hard and long and I choose to believe it based on the belief that i can make my own mind and reach conclusions, NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO HAVE TOTAL PROOF IN ORDER TO EXIST

Well I agree with you because I have a great respect for good researchers that can present challenging conclusions by putting different pieces together.

However, if what you are saying is coming from research and not based on testimony or experience, you need to source your research more. At first, I thought you were posting from personal experience and I do value testimony even though some testimony is difficult to source.

Although it is looking more and more like this isn't based on any experience you have and as a result, I would like to see sources for where you are getting the information that is leading you to form the conclusions you are forming.

I shouldn't have to take your information at face value without being able to make up my own mind upon reading the same information.

It is time-consuming to source research, but it is worth the effort.

 

[Antipapirus]

Could you expand on your views on the holocaust? I know some people don't believe it happened and others believe it was 'exaggerated'

Oh, the greatest psyops of the 20th century, my dear Holocaust.....
I used to hear people talking about Holocaust deniers and it seemed to me so ridiculous and crazy to deny something that has 100% happened without any doubt.
I remember in school we were thought about it and I heard the numbers of jews exterminated each day and it seemed too high and the logistic for killing 20000-40000 people a day would seem enormous in a time of war - but try asking that in class.
The truth, in my opinion, is this - I will try to superficially explain the whole Holocaust thing :
it's not that jews were not persecuted and killed in mass, they were, the whole Holocaust invention is the gas chambers and the number of jews killed, if you take that out, you're left with a group of people who suffered just the same and even less than other groups of people on WW2 and since then.
The goal was to make the Jewish suffering seem as if it were the greatest tragedy of the 20th century and all others who suffered are eclipsed by this great Holocaust. The total number of dead jews in WW2 was less than 2 million in total.
The whole point was to transform this into a weapon of blackmail and guilty feelings, advance to maximum the "anti-Semite" bomb that will be dropped on every single poor soul who tries to defy the "truth" or be an obstacle in the way of the Jewish agenda.
Without it, they would not be able to build Israel and make the Jewish people the greatest human shield ever!
I haven't heard about a Ruanda or Kosovo day of sadness or museum, nothing about the subject being forcibly taught in school or people being thrown in jail because they don't believe it happened.
The Holocaust is a weapon of mass control over the Jewish people and the whole world.
https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/09/Josef-Burg.html
https://www.henrymakow.com/002030.html
https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/04/Rothschilds-financed-Hitler-takeover .html
https://www.henrymakow.com/translated_from_the_hungarian.html
Just some related info
https://www.henrymakow.com/downton_abbey.html

 

[Antipapirus]

At the beginning you contradict yourself by dates.
If a group was only established in 1776 they cannot possibly be responsible for every revolution since 1600.
Did you make a typo, meaning 1800, not 1600?

Several groups of people established a central group in 1776.
Until that time they were dominating each his own territory - the Rotchilds dominated Europe and the Rockefellers the USA, the other 11 families were each in its own domain.

 

[JoChris]

There are plenty of museum and memorial websites that back up the 6 million Jews murdered in WWII.
Serious claims require serious evidence from **multiple** proven sources.

Youtube has too many videos of different concentration camps which have black and white live-recordings footage, which proves mass murder on an incredible scale.

 

[Antipapirus]

Well I agree with you because I have a great respect for good researchers that can present challenging conclusions by putting different pieces together.

However, if what you are saying is coming from research and not based on testimony or experience, you need to source your research more. At first, I thought you were posting from personal experience and I do value testimony even though some testimony is difficult to source.

Although it is looking more and more like this isn't based on any experience you have and as a result, I would like to see sources for where you are getting the information that is leading you to form the conclusions you are forming.

I shouldn't have to take your information at face value without being able to make up my own mind upon reading the same information.

It is time-consuming to source research, but it is worth the effort.

You are 100% correct and I like the way you think
I will link here some of my sources, I do not agree with 100% of the views and ideas presented on this sites and these people but I do agree with 90% at least.

http://exopolitics.org/

https://www.gaia.com/series/cosmic-disclosure
This site GAIA is the most wonderful platform I've ever encountered - this show " cosmic disclosure" is the most specific of all - names - dates - whistleblowers - you name it - it cost 99 cents per firs month so you can cancel it and get all the info for 99 cents and you have 5000 more videos to watch from a variety of subjects.
If you think I'm advertising then I am.
I wish someone would recommend it to me earlier

https://divinecosmos.com/
This is David Willcocks site - I am a huge fan

https://spherebeingalliance.com/
This is Corey Goode"s site - love this guy

Dr Steven Greer

Craig Braden

William Tompkins

Richard Hoagland

http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_pdf.aspx
The Law of One books series will glue it all together

I believe that this is enough, have fun.

 

[Antipapirus]

There are plenty of museum and memorial websites that back up the 6 million Jews murdered in WWII.
Serious claims require serious evidence from **multiple** proven sources.

Youtube has too many videos of different concentration camps which have black and white live-recordings footage, which proves mass murder on an incredible scale.

Keep in mind that I was a jew, I quit after I found out the base of my religion is worshiping the devil - LOL -
If you would tell me 2 years ago the things I'm telling you now I would go nuts and beat you up.
Keep in mind that millions did die, the lie is the gas chambers and the 6 million figure.,and the "fact" that the jews are somewhat the most victimized people in history without any fault.
With hours of carefully captured videos of piles of dead people and horrible conditions backed by media-army-government propaganda, i can make the holocaust seem as if 200 billion people died.

 

[Antipapirus]

Although it is looking more and more like this isn't based on any experience you have and as a result, I would like to see sources for where you are getting the information that is leading you to form the conclusions you are forming.
Almost forgot one of my favorites: Gregg Braden
http://www.greggbraden.com/

 

[Haich]

Oh, the greatest psyops of the 20th century, my dear Holocaust.....
I used to hear people talking about Holocaust deniers and it seemed to me so ridiculous and crazy to deny something that has 100% happened without any doubt.
I remember in school we were thought about it and I heard the numbers of jews exterminated each day and it seemed too high and the logistic for killing 20000-40000 people a day would seem enormous in a time of war - but try asking that in class.
The truth, in my opinion, is this - I will try to superficially explain the whole Holocaust thing :
it's not that jews were not persecuted and killed in mass, they were, the whole Holocaust invention is the gas chambers and the number of jews killed, if you take that out, you're left with a group of people who suffered just the same and even less than other groups of people on WW2 and since then.
The goal was to make the Jewish suffering seem as if it were the greatest tragedy of the 20th century and all others who suffered are eclipsed by this great Holocaust. The total number of dead jews in WW2 was less than 2 million in total.
The whole point was to transform this into a weapon of blackmail and guilty feelings, advance to maximum the "anti-Semite" bomb that will be dropped on every single poor soul who tries to defy the "truth" or be an obstacle in the way of the Jewish agenda.
Without it, they would not be able to build Israel and make the Jewish people the greatest human shield ever!
I haven't heard about a Ruanda or Kosovo day of sadness or museum, nothing about the subject being forcibly taught in school or people being thrown in jail because they don't believe it happened.
The Holocaust is a weapon of mass control over the Jewish people and the whole world.
https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/09/Josef-Burg.html
https://www.henrymakow.com/002030.html
https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/04/Rothschilds-financed-Hitler-takeover .html
https://www.henrymakow.com/translated_from_the_hungarian.html
Just some related info
https://www.henrymakow.com/downton_abbey.html

Very thought provoking.

So we're in agreement that the holocaust occurred, but the argument you're bringing forward is one I haven't come across before.

It does make sense, by making it seem like the one single event in history to cause such devastation, it has not only allowed the creation of Israel (and the displacement of Palestinians) but it kind of allows Israel to get away with what it wants. Anyone who criticises Israel is labelled an anti semite which is quite ridiculous; the state of Israel and the Jewish faith are too entirely different things.

You can have a Jew that supports Israel but critiquing Israel isn't anti-Semitic. If you criticise Judaism, you're labelled anti semitic, however, I don't believe it should be a protected faith, people criticise Islam and Christianity on a daily basis yet Judaism is never in the midst of a debate. Either all religions should be protected, or none. In a secular society I do welcome the freedom to critique a faith but it shouldn't be an excuse to use derogatory language. Unfortunately, people don't possess the linguistic capabilities to form a cohesive and transparent argument. Word choice is key, we all know what words cause offence and as long as we stand within the perimeters of deemable language, there's no reason why we can't have a healthy discussion about faith.

Of course discriminatory remarks against Judaism is anti-Semitic however inflammatory remarks are made about Islam and other faiths all the time, yet no one bats an eyelid. God forbid you even an utter a word about Judaism, you're leapt on like a leech and called an anti-Semitic.

Personally, I believe many people are anti-Zionist and anti-Israel due to the way Israel acquired 'their land'. Also, their actions since acquiring the land have been diabolical and we can't really sit here and ignore that. They've pretty much decimated the Palestinian region and the Zionist loving BBC, along with other news outlets, will never report the extent of the true damage they have done.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Keep in mind that I was a jew, I quit after I found out the base of my religion is worshiping the devil - LOL -
If you would tell me 2 years ago the things I'm telling you now I would go nuts and beat you up.
Keep in mind that millions did die, the lie is the gas chambers and the 6 million figure.,and the "fact" that the jews are somewhat the most victimized people in history without any fault.
With hours of carefully captured videos of piles of dead people and horrible conditions backed by media-army-government propaganda, i can make the holocaust seem as if 200 billion people died.

My grandfather went to some Eastern European camps after ww2.

It happened.

May you never come to see the things he described.

 

[Haich]

My grandfather went to some Eastern European camps after ww2.

It happened.

May you never come to see the things he described.

He didn't say that it didn't happen