How to become a Christian?

[Alanantic]

Ezekiel was a true Prophet, NOT a priest or fake prophet. He exposed the satanic priests, fake prophets and thieving leaders, and the rest of the Godless, self-serving cowards who worshiped their "selves", pretending that Satan doesn't exist. Sound familiar?

Ezekiel 22:25-30
22:25 [There is] a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.
22:26 Her priests have violated My Law, and have profaned Mine Holy things: they have put no difference between the Holy and profane, neither have they showed [difference] between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from My Sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.
22:27 Her princes in the midst thereof [are] like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, [and] to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain.
22:28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered [morter], seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord "I AM", when the "I AM" hath not spoken.
22:29 The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully.
22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before Me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.


It is the satanically-controlled "self" and its ignorance of the truth that prevents the recognition of true wisdom and perpetuates delusion.

I don't care.

 

[A Freeman]

I don't care.

Why respond then?

 

[Alanantic]

Why respond then?

You were coherent for a while until you slipped back into ludicrous mode. It made no sense after that, sorry.

 

[A Freeman]

You were coherent for a while until you slipped back into ludicrous mode. It made no sense after that, sorry.

Have you considered that the issue may be with your own lack of understanding instead of someone else's?

You seem happy to quote the sayings of men as long as you feel they suit your purposes, and malign those that don't, perhaps never realizing that everything that has ever been said on this planet comes from one of two sources: good (God, which some refer to as their "conscience") or evil (the devil/liar, aka Lucifer/Satan/Iblis, posing as the "self").

One has to learn the difference between the two to be able to choose wisely.

 

[Alanantic]

Have you considered that the issue may be with your own lack of understanding instead of someone else's?

You seem happy to quote the sayings of men as long as you feel they suit your purposes, and malign those that don't, perhaps never realizing that everything that has ever been said on this planet comes from one of two sources: good (God, which some refer to as their "conscience") or evil (the devil/liar, aka Lucifer/Satan/Iblis, posing as the "self").

One has to learn the difference between the two to be able to choose wisely.

I agree. That's why our souls take this lifeform.

 

[A Freeman]

I agree. That's why our souls take this lifeform.

We don't "take" this lifeform though, do we?

We have been locked/imprisoned inside of the loathsome, human animal bodies to be taught humility and wisdom (to know the difference between good and evil) from our Creator, so that we might be rehabilitated and rejoin our family and friends out in the universe.

That is why we cannot leave this planet of our own volition, isn't it?

 

[Alanantic]

We don't "take" this lifeform though, do we?

We have been locked/imprisoned inside of the loathsome, human animal bodies to be taught humility and wisdom (to know the difference between good and evil) from our Creator, so that we might be rehabilitated and rejoin our family and friends out in the universe.

That is why we cannot leave this planet of our own volition, isn't it?

It's more like a school uniform. It's not so bad once you get used to it.

 

[A Freeman]

It's more like a school uniform. It's not so bad once you get used to it.

Agreed about the uniform. Getting used to it though, and thus forgetting our divinity, is what has kept us from advancing to the next level.

But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty and you ARE poverty.

If the flesh has come into existence because of the spirit, it is a marvel; but if the spirit has come into existence because of the body, it is a marvel of marvels (impossible). But I marvel at how this great wealth (the spirit-Being) has made its home in this poverty (the body).

- Jesus, as recorded by Thomas, in verses 1:8 and 6:1

 

[Alanantic]

Agreed about the uniform. Getting used to it though, and thus forgetting our divinity, is what has kept us from advancing to the next level.

But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty and you ARE poverty.

If the flesh has come into existence because of the spirit, it is a marvel; but if the spirit has come into existence because of the body, it is a marvel of marvels (impossible). But I marvel at how this great wealth (the spirit-Being) has made its home in this poverty (the body).

- Jesus, as recorded by Thomas, in verses 1:8 and 6:1

I look at our relationship with our Self(Soul) kinda like a schizophrenic puppeteer and we're the puppets. We're our Soul's avatar. But our Souls in this day and age have fallen asleep and it's up to us "dream characters" to awaken our souls. We can do that. Twice in my life, I WAS the puppeteer. It lasted only a few moments, but Everything became obvious.

"Do not pay undue attention to the passing scenes of life. You are the immortal self (consciousness) living only temporarily in a dream that is sometimes (imagined) to be a nightmare. That is the higher philosophy (and truth) of the mystics." -- Yogananda

 

[A Freeman]

I look at our relationship with our Self(Soul) kinda like a schizophrenic puppeteer and we're the puppets. We're our Soul's avatar. But our Souls in this day and age have fallen asleep and it's up to us "dream characters" to awaken our souls. We can do that. Twice in my life, I WAS the puppeteer. It lasted only a few moments, but Everything became obvious.

"Do not pay undue attention to the passing scenes of life. You are the immortal self (consciousness) living only temporarily in a dream that is sometimes (imagined) to be a nightmare. That is the higher philosophy (and truth) of the mystics." -- Yogananda

We ARE the Soul (spiritual-energy-Being), temporarily incarnated inside of these human-animal bodies (avatars). Most in this world are spiritually asleep to this fact, believing the satanic LIE that they are "only human after all".

I'll miss the sea, but a person needs new experiences. They jar something deep inside, allowing him to grow. Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper MUST awaken. -- Duke Ledo Atriedes in the 1984 film "Dune"

Wherefore He saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee Light. -- Ephesians 5:14

And many of them that sleep in "the dust of the earth" (Gen. 13:16; 28:14) shall awake, some to Everlasting Life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt. -- Daniel 12:2

We are meant to be in control of the human body we temporarily incarnate at ALL times, not just for a few brief moments. Your experience should leave with you the indelible knowledge that you are obviously NOT the human body, and can exist outside of it.

Therefore [we are] always confident, knowing that, whilst we [the Being] feel at home IN the body, we are absent from the Lord: (For we walk by faith, not by sight). We are confident, [I say], and willing rather to be OUT OF the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Wherefore we labour, that, whether in [the body] or out [of the body], we may be accepted by Him. For we must all appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ; that every one may receive the (recompense for) things [done whilst] IN [his] body, according to that he hath DONE, whether [it be] good or bad. -- 2 Corinthians 5:6-10

On topic, no one needs to become a "Christian"; what everyone needs is to learn discipline and "self"-control.

And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own (human) life also, he can NOT be my disciple.
And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, can NOT be my disciple. -- Jesus, as recorded in Luke 9:23 and 14:26-27

 

[A Freeman]

About discipline and "self" control:-

Matthew 10:37-38
10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter (or anyone or anything) more than me is not worthy of me.
10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
10:40 He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth Him that sent me.
10:41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

Mark 8:34-35
8:34 And when he had called the people [unto him] with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny his "Self", and take up his cross, and follow me.
8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.

Luke 9:23-25
9:23 And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
9:24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
9:25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?

Luke 14:26-27
14:26 If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own (human) life also, he can NOT be my disciple.
14:27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, can NOT be my disciple.

Galatians 2:20 My "Self" is crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I (the "Self"), but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Sura 6:162. Say: "Truly, my prayer and my (daily) service of "Self" sacrifice (Luke 9:23; 14:26-27), my life (of selflessness) and my death (to "Self"), are (all) for "I AM", the Cherisher of the Worlds:

Sura 92:18-21
92:18. Those who spend their wealth for increase in "self"-purification,
92:19. And have in their minds no favour to anyone for which a reward is expected in return,
92:20. But only the desire to seek for the Countenance of their Lord Most High;
92:21. And soon will they attain (com

From the Bhagavad Gita:

8:28 A person who accepts the path of devotional service is not bereft of the results derived from studying the Vedas, performing austere sacrifices (Matt. 10:38, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23, Gal. 2:20, Sura 6:162), giving charity (Matt. 6:1-4) or pursuing philosophical and fruitive activities. At the end he reaches the supreme abode.

12:9 My dear Arjuna, O winner of wealth (Matt. 5:3), if you cannot fix your mind upon Me without deviation, then follow the regulated principles of bhakti-yoga [loving adoration through the keeping of the Commandments (John 14:15, Rev. 12:17) and daily “self” crucifixion - Matt. 10:38, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23, Gal. 2:20, Sura 6:162]. In this way you will develop a desire to attain to Me.

12:13 One who is not envious (Exod. 20: 17) but who is a kind friend to all living entities, who does not think himself a proprietor, who is free from false ego (Luke 9:23) and equal both in happiness and distress,

16:1 The Blessed Lord said: Fearlessness, purification of one's existence (Matt. 5:48), cultivation of spiritual knowledge (Hos. 4:6), charity (Matt. 6:1-4), self-control (1 Cor. 9:27), performance of sacrifice (Luke 9:23), study of the Vedas (Ps. 1), austerity and simplicity; nonviolence (Luke 6:29), truthfulness, freedom from anger (James 1:19);
16:2 renunciation, tranquility, aversion to faultfinding (Matt. 7:1-4), compassion and freedom from covetousness (Exod. 20:17);
16:3 gentleness, modesty and steady determination (Prov. 12:24); vigor, forgiveness (Matt. 6:12), fortitude, cleanliness (Lev. 10:10), freedom from envy (Sol. 2:24) and the passion for honor (Matt. 5:6)—these transcendental qualities, O son of Bharata, belong to godly men endowed with divine nature.
16:4 Arrogance, pride, anger, conceit, harshness and ignorance—these qualities belong to those of demonic nature, O son of Pṛthā (1 Cor. 6:8-10).
16:5 The transcendental qualities are conducive to liberation (James 1:25), whereas the demonic qualities make for bondage (John 8:25). Do not worry, O son of Pāṇḍu, for you are born with the divine qualities.

From the Diamond Sutra:

Chapter 6. Awaken Faith

"Subhuti, any person who awakens faith upon hearing the words or phrases of this Sutra will accumulate countless blessings and merit (Deut. 28:1-14).

"How do I know this? Because this person must have discarded all arbitrary notions of the existence of a personal self (Luke 9:23, Sura 6:162), of other people, or of a universal self. Otherwise their minds would still grasp after such relative conceptions. Furthermore, these people must have already discarded all arbitrary notions of the non-existence of a personal self, other people, or a universal self. Otherwise, their minds would still be grasping at such notions. Therefore anyone who seeks total Enlightenment should discard not only all conceptions of their own selfhood, of other selves, or of a universal self, but they should also discard all notions of the non-existence of such concepts.

When the Buddha explains these things using such concepts and ideas (Rev. 10:6-10), people should remember the unreality of all such concepts and ideas (Sura 31:30). They should recall that in teaching spiritual truths the Buddha always uses these concepts and ideas in the way that a raft is used to cross a river. Once the river has been crossed over, the raft is of no more use, and should be discarded. These arbitrary concepts and ideas about spiritual things need to be explained to us as we seek to attain Enlightenment (John 3:3-12). However, ultimately these arbitrary conceptions can be discarded. Think Subhuti, isn't it even more obvious that we should also give up our conceptions of non-existent things (Isa. 30:8-15)?"

Chapter 17. All Dharmas Are Non-Dharmas

At that time, the venerable Subhuti then asked the Buddha, "World-Honored One, may I ask you a question again? If sons or daughters of a good family want to develop the highest, most fulfilled and awakened mind, if they wish to attain the Highest Perfect Wisdom, what should they do to help quiet their drifting minds (Ps. 46:10) and master their thinking (Mark 10:17-23)?"

The Buddha replied:

"Subhuti, a good son or daughter who wants to give rise to the highest, most fulfilled, and awakened mind must create this resolved attitude of mind: 'I must help to lead all beings to the shore of awakening, but, after these beings have become liberated, in truth I know that not even a single being has been liberated (John 3:13).' Why is this so? If a disciple cherishes the idea of a self, a person, a living being or a universal self, then that person is not an authentic disciple (Matt. 10:37-38, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23, Luke 14:26-27, Gal. 2:20, Sura 6:162, Sura 92:18-21). Why? Because in fact there is no independently existing object of mind called the highest, most fulfilled, and awakened mind.

Matthew 28:18-20
28:18 And Jesus came and spoke unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
28:19 Go ye therefore, and MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL NATIONS*, baptizing them with the Holy Spirit: in my name (The Saviour),
28:20 Instructing them to observe (and DO) all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, [even] unto the end of the world (age). Amen.

*Note well Christ's COMMAND to make DISCIPLES of all nations, NOT "Christians". Discipline is the hallmark of every disciple.

 

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HOW TO RECEIVE JESUS AND PASS FROM DEATH TO LIFE.

Just admit three things:
1. I am a sinner. “All have sinned” (Romans 3:23).
2. I am doomed to die. “The wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23).
3. I cannot save myself. “Without Me you can do nothing” (John 15:5).

Then, believe three things:
1. He died for me. “That [Jesus] … might taste death for everyone” (Hebrews 2:9).
2. He forgives me. “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins” (1 John 1:9).
3. He saves me. “He who believes in Me has everlasting life” (John 6:47).

Consider these life-changing truths:
• Because of my sins, I am under a death sentence.
• I cannot pay this penalty without losing eternal life. I would be dead forever.
• I owe something I cannot pay! But Jesus says, “I will pay the penalty. I will die in your place and give you credit for it. You will not have to die for your sins."
• I accept His offer! The moment I acknowledge my debt and accept His death for my sins, I become His child! (Simple, isn’t it?)

 

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Let's have this in mind and choose wisely. Let's ask God for the Holy Spirit to direct us to the right path.