How to become a Christian?

Alanantic

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Clintons = Evil!!!
Frazzledrip is a rumored dark web snuff film showing Hillary Clinton and longtime aide Huma Abedin sexually assaulting and murdering a young girl, drinking her blood and taking turns wearing the skin from her face as a mask.
Video was allegedly discovered on former Congressman Anthony Weiner’s laptop (Weiner is Abedin’s ex-husband) in a folder labeled “life insurance,” and police officers who’ve reportedly seen it were so horrified that they were driven to suicide.
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Why waste your time pointing out the evil in the world? Your only solution is for them to "repent". Thoreau said, "Ignorance is the only sin". Try dispelling that instead of demonizing people.
 

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Why waste your time pointing out the evil in the world? Your only solution is for them to "repent". Thoreau said, "Ignorance is the only sin". Try dispelling that instead of demonizing people.
I might say that Satan is not ignorant, but he is self-deceived.

When people reject God, it’s not all that different to wearing shorts hopefully on a rainy day on holiday - whatever stance we take to external reality makes no difference to it at all!
 

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Because evil can only win when good decides to do nothing.
You made my point. Just pointing out evil does nothing to lessen it.
I might say that Satan is not ignorant, but he is self-deceived.

When people reject God, it’s not all that different to wearing shorts hopefully on a rainy day on holiday - whatever stance we take to external reality makes no difference to it at all!
There's no such thing as Satan.

"Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. And even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained. And even in the best of all hearts, there remains ... an unuprooted small corner of evil." -- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
 
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You made my point. Just pointing out evil does nothing to lessen it.

There's no such thing as Satan.

"Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. And even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained. And even in the best of all hearts, there remains ... an unuprooted small corner of evil." -- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
I'm curious, what do you think should be done to people who sacrifice people for power and material gain for a being/entity you think doesn't exist?
 
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It's not possible to see this world as it really is -- completely filled with selfish and evil people (aka "sinners") who do selfish and evil things at every level of society -- and not realize that the evil is centralized and managed on this planet, as long as someone is sound asleep spiritually.

If someone can experience the premeditated magic virus scam and the power-play lockdown, the nonsensical social distancing and health-harming face-nappy/diaper wearing circus that was foisted on the people, and still believe that Lucifer/Satan/Iblis, the devil doesn't exist, then they aren't paying close enough attention to their surroundings to be taken seriously.

“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist”—Charles Baudelaire
 
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You made my point. Just pointing out evil does nothing to lessen it.
Who said to stop at pointing it out?

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There's no such thing as Satan.
Yep, easy conclusion for an atheist.

Much like the thief who won't bother robbing an empty house, satan won't interfere with one who rejects God.

His job is done with you so why should he bother?

Sincerely ask God for guidance and then try to tell me the devil doesn't exist.
 

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The only way to change people's behavior is through a reward and punishment system.

It just so happens our Creator sent us a perfect reward and punishment system, where those who love their neighbour as much or more than themselves are rewarded and where career criminals are punished so severely that it prevents crime.

Unfortunately, we haven't kept that perfect system, instead substituting our own satanically flawed system, which rewards the criminals and punishes everyone else. That's why under man-made legislation, career criminals like the Clintons are rewarded instead of being lawfully executed under our Creator's Law for their capital crimes, as they should be. The latter would prevent people from doing what the Clintons have done while the former only encourages that type of behavior.
 

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Who said to stop at pointing it out?

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Yep, easy conclusion for an atheist.

Much like the thief who won't bother robbing an empty house, satan won't interfere with one who rejects God.

His job is done with you so why should he bother?

Sincerely ask God for guidance and then try to tell me the devil doesn't exist.
As I've said before I'm not an atheist. Yep, since I left the church, Satan is long gone. So are the other myths and warped ideas of all religions. Good and Evil are like hot and cold. One never "wins". It's a Duality that eventually must be transcended. This whole Life and Death struggle throughout this holographic universe is just a Drama; a Scenario, a Simulation, God's Dream. Nothing is real except for the concepts within it. It's a School for Souls to learn how to be God. The Vedas say, "Even the gods die". They'll come and go just like us. There is something unknowable that doesn't, of course. Hindus call it Braman. It has no attributes. We all have it's spark within us. When you realize "You are That", the Drama Ends. It ended for many before us, Jesus, Buddha, Krishna. They did what we're meant to do. They went from being children of God to adults.
'All the drama you see on TV is just photons powered by electricity, all the characters, mountains and seas, space and stars, etc. But something not seen or felt is obvious and that's the Intelligence it took to create it. THAT permeates Everything. I guess that's my God.

"I have said, ye are gods, and all of you are children of the most High." -- Psalms 82:6

"Do not pay undue attention to the passing scenes of life. You are the immortal self (consciousness) living only temporarily in a dream that is sometimes (imagined) to be a nightmare. That is the higher philosophy (and truth) of the mystics." -- Yogananda
 

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The only way to change people's behavior is through a reward and punishment system.

It just so happens our Creator sent us a perfect reward and punishment system, where those who love their neighbour as much or more than themselves are rewarded and where career criminals are punished so severely that it prevents crime.

Unfortunately, we haven't kept that perfect system, instead substituting our own satanically flawed system, which rewards the criminals and punishes everyone else. That's why under man-made legislation, career criminals like the Clintons are rewarded instead of being lawfully executed under our Creator's Law for their capital crimes, as they should be. The latter would prevent people from doing what the Clintons have done while the former only encourages that type of behavior.
Yes, he diid. Reward and punishment in this universe is inevitable. Some swear by the Clintons and some swear at them. If you have definitive proof of these accusations then take them to court if you like. But everyone's karma catches up to them eventually.

"All these sufferings are man-made and it is within man's power to put an end to them. God helps by facing man with the results of his actions and demanding that the balance should be restored. Karma is the law that works for righteousness; it is the healing hand of God." -- Nisargadatta

We all have good and bad within us. When you demonize people, aren't you casting the first stone?
 

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As I've said before I'm not an atheist. Yep, since I left the church, Satan is long gone. So are the other myths and warped ideas of all religions. Good and Evil are like hot and cold. One never "wins". It's a Duality that eventually must be transcended. This whole Life and Death struggle throughout this holographic universe is just a Drama; a Scenario, a Simulation, God's Dream. Nothing is real except for the concepts within it. It's a School for Souls to learn how to be God. The Vedas say, "Even the gods die". They'll come and go just like us. There is something unknowable that doesn't, of course. Hindus call it Braman. It has no attributes. We all have it's spark within us. When you realize "You are That", the Drama Ends. It ended for many before us, Jesus, Buddha, Krishna. They did what we're meant to do. They went from being children of God to adults.
'All the drama you see on TV is just photons powered by electricity, all the characters, mountains and seas, space and stars, etc. But something not seen or felt is obvious and that's the Intelligence it took to create it. THAT permeates Everything. I guess that's my God.

"I have said, ye are gods, and all of you are children of the most High." -- Psalms 82:6

"Do not pay undue attention to the passing scenes of life. You are the immortal self (consciousness) living only temporarily in a dream that is sometimes (imagined) to be a nightmare. That is the higher philosophy (and truth) of the mystics." -- Yogananda
Satan never left you Alan, he followed you as you left the church. He is just on cruise control because of your kufr beliefs. It seems like you've taken something from every religion and made your own.

If God intended us to do as thou wilt, why did he send down books?

Imagine operating a very expensive machine, with new tech. You're gonna read the manual because you don't want to waste the investment. No one in there right mind would just push buttons and wing it.

Whats more precious, this life that is certainly coming to an end for all of us, or one that is eternal?

Personally, I'd read the book, maybe even "call" the manufacturer asking him exactly what he meant.
 

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Satan never left you Alan, he followed you as you left the church. He is just on cruise control because of your kufr beliefs. It seems like you've taken something from every religion and made your own.

If God intended us to do as thou wilt, why did he send down books?

Imagine operating a very expensive machine, with new tech. You're gonna read the manual because you don't want to waste the investment. No one in there right mind would just push buttons and wing it.

Whats more precious, this life that is certainly coming to an end for all of us, or one that is eternal?

Personally, I'd read the book, maybe even "call" the manufacturer asking him exactly what he meant.
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It's not possible to see this world as it really is -- completely filled with selfish and evil people (aka "sinners") who do selfish and evil things at every level of society -- and not realize that the evil is centralized and managed on this planet, as long as someone is sound asleep spiritually.

If someone can experience the premeditated magic virus scam and the power-play lockdown, the nonsensical social distancing and health-harming face-nappy/diaper wearing circus that was foisted on the people, and still believe that Lucifer/Satan/Iblis, the devil doesn't exist, then they aren't paying close enough attention to their surroundings to be taken seriously.

“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist”—Charles Baudelaire
That's a witty quote but I wouldn't call it wisdom. It merely perpetuates a delusion.
 

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Yes, he diid. Reward and punishment in this universe is inevitable. Some swear by the Clintons and some swear at them. If you have definitive proof of these accusations then take them to court if you like. But everyone's karma catches up to them eventually.

"All these sufferings are man-made and it is within man's power to put an end to them. God helps by facing man with the results of his actions and demanding that the balance should be restored. Karma is the law that works for righteousness; it is the healing hand of God." -- Nisargadatta

We all have good and bad within us. When you demonize people, aren't you casting the first stone?
The first look should always be inward.

If one is truly desirous to learn what is actually good and evil, studying and applying His Perfect Standard/Law with its perfect statutes and judgements is The Only Way to go. And that application begins with the "self".

With regard to the Judgements and Penalties, they aren't mine; they are our Creator's and they are just, fair and merciful for all concerned.

Ezekiel 18:20-32
18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall DIE. The son shall not bear the inequity of the father, neither shall the father bear the inequity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all My Statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
18:22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord "I AM": [and] not that he should return from his ways, and live?
18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth inequity, [and] doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked [man] doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
18:25 Yet ye say, The Way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O "House of Israel"; Is not My Way equal? are not your ways unequal?
18:26 When a righteous [man] turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth inequity, and dieth in them; for his inequity that he hath done shall he die.
18:27 Again, when the wicked [man] turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
18:28 Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
18:29 Yet saith the "House of Israel", The Way of the Lord is not equal. O "House of Israel", are not My Ways equal? are not your ways unequal?
18:30 Therefore I will judge you, O "House of Israel", every one according to his ways, saith the Lord "I AM". Repent, and turn [yourselves] from all your transgressions; so inequity shall not be your ruin.
18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O "House of Israel"?
18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord "I AM": wherefore turn [yourselves], and live ye.

Sounds like perfect karma, doesn't it?

We all have the free-will to choose between good and evil. It' time to start making better choices for all concerned.
 

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The first look should always be inward.

If one is truly desirous to learn what is actually good and evil, studying and applying His Perfect Standard/Law with its perfect statutes and judgements is The Only Way to go. And that application begins with the "self".

With regard to the Judgements and Penalties, they aren't mine; they are our Creator's and they are just, fair and merciful for all concerned.

Ezekiel 18:20-32
18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall DIE. The son shall not bear the inequity of the father, neither shall the father bear the inequity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all My Statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
18:22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord "I AM": [and] not that he should return from his ways, and live?
18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth inequity, [and] doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked [man] doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
18:25 Yet ye say, The Way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O "House of Israel"; Is not My Way equal? are not your ways unequal?
18:26 When a righteous [man] turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth inequity, and dieth in them; for his inequity that he hath done shall he die.
18:27 Again, when the wicked [man] turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
18:28 Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
18:29 Yet saith the "House of Israel", The Way of the Lord is not equal. O "House of Israel", are not My Ways equal? are not your ways unequal?
18:30 Therefore I will judge you, O "House of Israel", every one according to his ways, saith the Lord "I AM". Repent, and turn [yourselves] from all your transgressions; so inequity shall not be your ruin.
18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O "House of Israel"?
18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord "I AM": wherefore turn [yourselves], and live ye.

Sounds like perfect karma, doesn't it?

We all have the free-will to choose between good and evil. It' time to start making better choices for all concerned.
I don't follow some Bronze Age rules written by ancient priests.,
 

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I don't follow some Bronze Age rules written by ancient priests.,
Ezekiel was a true Prophet, NOT a priest or fake prophet. He exposed the satanic priests, fake prophets and thieving leaders, and the rest of the Godless, self-serving cowards who worshiped their "selves", pretending that Satan doesn't exist. Sound familiar?

Ezekiel 22:25-30
22:25 [There is] a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.
22:26 Her priests have violated My Law, and have profaned Mine Holy things: they have put no difference between the Holy and profane, neither have they showed [difference] between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from My Sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.
22:27 Her princes in the midst thereof [are] like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, [and] to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain.
22:28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered [morter], seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord "I AM", when the "I AM" hath not spoken.
22:29 The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully.
22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before Me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.

That's a witty quote but I wouldn't call it wisdom. It merely perpetuates a delusion.
It is the satanically-controlled "self" and its ignorance of the truth that prevents the recognition of true wisdom and perpetuates delusion.
 
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