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You're welcome. It's crazy how RM and JHope even want to spread the "explicit" version in their Ig stories...All the more their fans who are still kids would be exposed to more filth...
Precisely. I'm not surprised at RM and JH though. We're seeing who these people really are now with their solo work as if we didn't know. I thought RM did good but then JH comes along with arson-themed fires (interesting that the world's food production facilities subsequently went up in flames not to mention half the forests in North America and elsewhere) combined with album design in checkerboard everything, MinS with his violence/suicide-themed album (yet excellently done -- how could that be possible), JM with his gross porn/orgy dancing and now JK with verbal smut. Only Jin stayed reasonably clean so far but his message was ... spaceships. This group is the most agenda-driven social-engineering machine ever created.
 

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Precisely. I'm not surprised at RM and JH though. We're seeing who these people really are now with their solo work as if we didn't know. I thought RM did good but then JH comes along with arson-themed fires (interesting that the world's food production facilities subsequently went up in flames not to mention half the forests in North America and elsewhere) combined with album design in checkerboard everything, MinS with his violence/suicide-themed album (yet excellently done -- how could that be possible), JM with his gross porn/orgy dancing and now JK with verbal smut. Only Jin stayed reasonably clean so far but his message was ... spaceships. This group is the most agenda-driven social-engineering machine ever created.
Spot-on. They are also part of "predictive programming...." It's becoming clearer how this group has been "socially-engineered" to achieve the satanic agenda of the global elites... Unbeknownst to its fandom, they are very much a part of the sinister plan...A "modern-day" form of slavery in the guise of creative arts and fanaticism...

Themes/agenda that the solos are promoting so far...

Jin...alien agenda, "celestial" worship...

RM... focusing on emotional issues involving anxiety, loneliness, depression, struggles with mental health...

JHope... destruction by fire, anger, societal angst...

Jimin... sexual liberation, carnal lifestyle...

Suga...violence, vices, anger, rebellion...

Jungkook... sex, sex, sex (24/7)...

Taehyung...???
 
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There's so much wrong in addition to that with this song and who's in it. The entire video/lyrics ... disgusting. I'm visiting here again for therapy, thank goodness for you all. This is one of, if not THE, most vulgar songs I've ever heard and fans are praising it by the hundreds of thousands. Maybe it's just me but the lyrics go too far. We're doomed if this is a "cute summer song" (just a sample of the comments or how about "this is so hot" such and such and "I can't breathe"). Gross.
...And this is how this current world describes a "cute summer song" ... one that has a non-stop coital interaction... that "smut is hot..." We now live in a current world of carnal culture...

I bet even Jungkook knows that 24/7 acts of copulation are extremely unhealthy...and could lead to illness and death...
 

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Themes/agenda that the solos are promoting so far...

Jin...alien agenda, "celestial" worship...

RM... focusing on emotional issues involving anxiety, loneliness, depression, struggles with mental health...

JHope... destruction by fire, anger, societal angst...

Jimin... sexual liberation, carnal lifestyle...

Suga...violence, vices, anger, rebellion...

Jungkook... sex, sex, sex (24/7)...

Taehyung...???
Jin's doesn't bother me because we've found enough Earth-like planets in other solar systems to know that we can't possibly be the only sentient life in the universe. NJ's is the only one with a normal agenda, since what he talked about were things many people go through daily. YG's latest album was very weirdly Buddhist sounding while also being strangely calm on top of depressive. I hands down agree about the others regarding themes/agendas.

JH's for me was the creepiest. Especially Arson. He really pushed it in a very disconcerting way and I'm sure that's why the album visually did not do very well.
 

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Jin's doesn't bother me because we've found enough Earth-like planets in other solar systems to know that we can't possibly be the only sentient life in the universe. NJ's is the only one with a normal agenda, since what he talked about were things many people go through daily. YG's latest album was very weirdly Buddhist sounding while also being strangely calm on top of depressive. I hands down agree about the others regarding themes/agendas.

JH's for me was the creepiest. Especially Arson. He really pushed it in a very disconcerting way and I'm sure that's why the album visually did not do very well.
Also, it seems that Jin's solo song, despite the "space-alien, celestial" featurism...is the most "grounded" and with a positive message of "love, loyalty, friendship, and family..." It's basically a "feel good" song that generally gives listeners a sense of positive emotion...happiness for being human...
 
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At this point, I just find it very amusing that JM's music was about alcohol and sex, and JK's new song is about sex. I'm willing to bet that if/when Tae releases music soon, it will also be about sex. But the maknae line are also really boring and they probably don't do anything but have sex and drink/do drugs so it also doesn't surprise me that that's all they can make music about. Plus, sad fact, it sells.
His new song was potentially leaked, and it's more marketable than his jazz or ballad songs. I wonder if Tae is happy with this leaked song or was forced to use it. Take it with a grain of salt, but the song disappeared. Why would hive get a fake song deleted?

Jm's hardcore fans are trying to ruin huve and $cooter because they didn't push Jm harder as a soloist. They think he has potential as a worldwide pop star. Hive and $cooter put everything they have behind Jk and see him as their best choice. The other members were a test run. Some did really well, and others were quickly forgotten.

 
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Spot-on. They are also part of "predictive programming...." It's becoming clearer how this group has been "socially-engineered" to achieve the satanic agenda of the global elites... Unbeknownst to its fandom, they are very much a part of the sinister plan...A "modern-day" form of slavery in the guise of creative arts and fanaticism...

Themes/agenda that the solos are promoting so far...

Jin...alien agenda, "celestial" worship...

RM... focusing on emotional issues involving anxiety, loneliness, depression, struggles with mental health...

JHope... destruction by fire, anger, societal angst...

Jimin... sexual liberation, carnal lifestyle...

Suga...violence, vices, anger, rebellion...

Jungkook... sex, sex, sex (24/7)...

Taehyung...???
I'm surprised you haven't figured it out yet. Just like with BST, they're acting out a part. Each of their works comes together to make the seven deadly sins. They even weaved all of the sins into those songs. Everything we've talked about, their own words, and imagery, I think this is the best interpretation of their work. Also in a way, each represents a demonic force as the sins are associated with demons too.

Pride Rm

Greed

Wrath Suga

Envy Jhope

Lust Jk

Gluttony Jimin

Sloth Jin
 

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I'm surprised you haven't figured it out yet. Just like with BST, they're acting out a part. Each of their works comes together to make the seven deadly sins. They even weaved all of the sins into those songs. Everything we've talked about, their own words, and imagery, I think this is the best interpretation of their work. Also in a way, each represents a demonic force as the sins are associated with demons too.

Pride Rm

Greed

Wrath Suga

Envy Jhope

Lust Jk

Gluttony Jimin

Sloth Jin
Well this is also a matter of interpretation. Different people would "figure out a different thing" though it's the same evil at the crux of the matter...

You seem to have a different take. There is no "hard and fast rule" here. There can't be only one meaning. In the "siete pecados" (7 deadly sins), for example, how does Jin represent "sloth" when he is actually the "most accomplished" among them...what makes Jh "envy" and why "gluttony" represents Jm?

The thing is...all of them...in fact all people, including you and me...have at one time or another committed these "siete pecados." As the Scripture says, "For all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God..."
 

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I'm surprised you haven't figured it out yet. Just like with BST, they're acting out a part. Each of their works comes together to make the seven deadly sins. They even weaved all of the sins into those songs. Everything we've talked about, their own words, and imagery, I think this is the best interpretation of their work. Also in a way, each represents a demonic force as the sins are associated with demons too.

Pride Rm

Greed

Wrath Suga

Envy Jhope

Lust Jk

Gluttony Jimin

Sloth Jin

Actually this is well put. I never really tied the 7 deadly sins to the group, but now I'm really thinking deeply on this.
 
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Well this is also a matter of interpretation. Different people would "figure out a different thing" though it's the same evil at the crux of the matter...

You seem to have a different take. There is no "hard and fast rule" here. There can't be only one meaning. In the "siete pecados" (7 deadly sins), for example, how does Jin represent "sloth" when he is actually the "most accomplished" among them...what makes Jh "envy" and why "gluttony" represents Jm?

The thing is...all of them...in fact all people, including you and me...have at one time or another committed these "siete pecados." As the Scripture says, "For all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God..."
Sloth also means lack of ambition and depression. Jh envies the love that Jk gets from the fans. Gluttony means too much food or drink. Like Crazy is about going to clubs where he drinks too much and pursues a life of pleasure. They could all be one of the sins, but some fit better. Your quote is correct, but many religious people like to single out specific sins, especially from the book of Leviticus but ignore their own. Things are called wicked that apply to a time when things were different and another religion.
 

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His new song was potentially leaked, and it's more marketable than his jazz or ballad songs. I wonder if Tae is happy with this leaked song or was forced to use it. Take it with a grain of salt, but the song disappeared. Why would hive get a fake song deleted?

Jm's hardcore fans are trying to ruin huve and $cooter because they didn't push Jm harder as a soloist. They think he has potential as a worldwide pop star. Hive and $cooter put everything they have behind Jk and see him as their best choice. The other members were a test run. Some did really well, and others were quickly forgotten.

Honestly, I was able to find the leaked song on youtube and I really like it. I seldom listen to jazz, but it was really well-produced from what I could hear. Tae actually leaked it himself in a livestream. Bold move :)

LOL @ JM as a worldwide popstar.
 

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I'm surprised you haven't figured it out yet. Just like with BST, they're acting out a part. Each of their works comes together to make the seven deadly sins. They even weaved all of the sins into those songs. Everything we've talked about, their own words, and imagery, I think this is the best interpretation of their work. Also in a way, each represents a demonic force as the sins are associated with demons too.

Pride Rm

Greed

Wrath Suga

Envy Jhope

Lust Jk

Gluttony Jimin

Sloth Jin
Hm, this is a very interesting take. Especially Wrath for YG, Pride for NJ and Gluttony for JM.
 

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Sloth also means lack of ambition and depression. Jh envies the love that Jk gets from the fans. Gluttony means too much food or drink. Like Crazy is about going to clubs where he drinks too much and pursues a life of pleasure. They could all be one of the sins, but some fit better. Your quote is correct, but many religious people like to single out specific sins, especially from the book of Leviticus but ignore their own. Things are called wicked that apply to a time when things were different and another religion.
Yes, I know the meanings of those sins. They are what all humans commonly fall into. But "sloth" does not fairly "represent" Jin...like "lack of ambition?" If you have somehow studied his character and background, he is not like that at all. In fact, that man is such a hardworking achiever...About Jh...how do you know he has those envious feelings towards Jk? Did he openly admit it categorically in an interview? Besides, feelings of envy tend to be intricately well-hidden, deep within an individual's psyche...As for "gluttony" that you attribute to Jm...it does not necessarily mean that he is like that in real life just because it was depicted in his "Like Crazy" MV...

While we try to "critically expose" these ungodly traits or failings of these men...I believe, it's imperative that we exercise caution in making such attributions...because everybody deserves a fair treatment...absolutely no human being is perfect...so it's wiser to apply the "golden rule."
 
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Honestly, I was able to find the leaked song on youtube and I really like it. I seldom listen to jazz, but it was really well-produced from what I could hear. Tae actually leaked it himself in a livestream. Bold move :)

LOL @ JM as a worldwide popstar.
I liked it too. Hope it does well and he gets proper promos. I'm not touching the second comment with a ten foot pole lol! I was never a Jm fan, but do feel bad for him sometimes. He's been kicked around and explored but has what to show for? Not much but some money and fans, and that only goes so far. I don't envy kpop idols.
 
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Hm, this is a very interesting take. Especially Wrath for YG, Pride for NJ and Gluttony for JM.
Those are also subjects Armys have debated before, so I think it fits. Wrath and anger are in the background of most of his songs, especially the recent one. NJ has been criticized for being too prideful or boasting a lot. Socalled fans mock Jm for any weight gain and he struggles to maintain an unrealistic shape.
 
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