Imagine a world with shariah law.

[Red Sky at Morning]

As I've mentioned a 1000 times before, I was a Christian for 30 years and a Muslim for just over 10.

@Daze - I’m genuinely interested…

What was your Christian background?

Were you affiliated to a particular denomination?

Why did you reject Christianity?

What made Islam appealing to you?

*I know - a lot of questions but they are all relevant and will help with my understanding of where you are coming from?

 

[Daze]

I believe that Shariah Law includes but is not limited to the 10 commandments. It’s the “not limited to” part that concerns people. Many “outsiders” to Islam see the connection between Muhammad’s character and way of life and the commandments Allah allegedly provided him with. As such we have a blend of OT Decalogue and the rules of a 7th Century individual.

If this second set of rules is of a divine origin, then Shariah is a good thing. If not it is a bad thing. Perhaps the best illustration would be to determine where on earth Islam is practiced the most fully and faithfully and determine if those areas are the most joyful and godly places on earth, or something else?

What complicated things is that certain sins and crimes are clamped down on under Shariah law that are social ills in the West. Things like theft and social drunkenness are clamped down on in countries like Saudi Arabia, yet the deeper sins of the human heart, from pride and anger to lust and greed seem untouched by externally imposed legalism. Also, in enforcing restrictions on certain evils, freedom in general is diminished.

There is a baby and some bath water and people need to take care when either fully accepting or fully rejecting the moral codes of others.

No, its not limited to the 10 commandments, but i use that as an example because its easy for everyone to understand.
I'm not gonna discuss fiqh issues because I'm not an Islamic scholar.

Allah allegedly provided him with

Can't help but take shots, can ya Red? I think this is why we argue so much.


Shariah is literally laws written according to what God has sent down. It does lead to a better society. For example...

Watch this video, it is less then 2 minutes. A man robs a phone store.

Clearly the man has done that before, he knows exactly what to do.

Now had shariah been in place for his first theft, his hand would have been cut off and his riegn of terror would have ended. That women and all the others would not have suffered.

If we examine crime statistics we can see the vast majority are repeat offenders.


Imagine if people learned the first time. Crime would all but disappear.

Compare this to the west where people literally enter a store a dozen at a time and everyone takes whatever they want.

That said there's not really a government on the planet today that enforces shariah. Saudi for sure doesn't, not when they host concerts and allow halloween parties.

From what I've seen it looks like Afghanistan does. But most governments are corrupt.


However it is definitely safer in Muslim lands.
This happened less then a week ago.

 

[Daze]

@Daze - I’m genuinely interested…

What was your Christian background?

Were you affiliated to a particular denomination?

Why did you reject Christianity?

What made Islam appealing to you?

*I know - a lot of questions but they are all relevant and will help with my understanding of where you are coming from?

I've told all of these things here before. Idk if you forgot or if you're trying to catch me in a lie or something?

My mother was a Jehovah's witness and my father was a Baptist. I just considered myself Christian.

God guided me to Islam through music by simply showing me how evil it is. Back then music was a massive part of my life and it was my gateway into Islam back in late 2010, early 2011. I know I've mentioned all of this before.


Islam is appealing because it has proofs. Many proofs, like I've listed some in my signs of the hour thread. There is no blind faith on this side of the fence.

My book does not contradict my beliefs. Islam is appealing because it makes perfect sense. It is logical Red.
God says himself in the Bible that he is not the author of confusion. (Corin 14:33)



Now if there are Christians who don't understand this (and we have several here).. Then it can't be said that Christianity is logical.
If the trinity was perfectly logical there would be no such thing as a Unitarian.

It doesn't make a lick of sense to say God the father is god and Jesus is god but God the father is not Jesus.
Yet Jesus says plainly "God is one". (Duet 6:4)

I've made a thread on this years ago. The 3-1 is a pagan concept taken from pagan religions exactly like your Easter.

We can argue about this all day and already have here for many hours in the past. I don't want to continue beating this dead horse.
I am merely showing you it is not logical. It takes indoctrination and herd mentality to accept that a man called a prophet 6 or 7 times in the Bible is god incarnate. I mean a child can see it Red.



On the other hand Islam makes perfect sense.

God is one, alone without partners.
He is the eternal, the absolute.
He does not beget nor was he begotten.
There is nothing within the creation that can be compared to him. (Surah Ikhlas 1-4)

 

[polymoog]

DON'T FUCKING FORGET!
Let's read your take on the child grooming part too!
[....]

remember when you asked me to tell you when youre acting rudely and insensitively? youre doing it right now.

why would you expect daze to respond to you if use this language? is he supposed to respond because you used a large font size? he owes you absolutely nothing. a sharp debate is one thing. a personal attack is different.

you make yourself look bad when you cannot control your emotions in a civil manner.

 

[polymoog]

AH! I know you're right!!!
Honestly I did not expect him to reply.
I realized he was ignoring me.
And you're still right.
And I am not over it yet.
I do want to be.
So I need to just stop
replying for a bit.

rephrase it cordially, thats all.
perhaps he will respond if you are not blocked already.

 

[JoChris]

I've told all of these things here before. Idk if you forgot or if you're trying to catch me in a lie or something?

My mother was a Jehovah's witness and my father was a Baptist. I just considered myself Christian.

You were not a Christian then. https://www.crossway.org/articles/what-is-needed-to-be-a-christian/

 

[Daze]

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You were not a Christian then. https://www.crossway.org/articles/what-is-needed-to-be-a-christian/

If only i had a dime for everyone who told me I never was a Christian I'd have several dollars by now.

Speaking of going to church, have you seen this video of a pastor crying that mosques are full and churches are empty?
Check it out, pretty entertaining.

Don't worry, this graph is not at all relevant.


If you find this response ignorant why don't you re-read your own first?

I was Christian for 30 years and could not care less what you believe.

 

[JoChris]

I do appreciate your fairness and know many alleged ex-Muslims. They are easy to expose with basic Islamic questions that can't be googled. Such as having them recite something a Muslim recites 17 times a day. You'd be surprised how many fail such basic tests.

Truth is if you want to get rich, attack Islam and today they web is over flowing with hate websites. Actual hate preachers like Robert Spencer and David wood have massive audiences.

As I've mentioned a 1000 times before, I was a Christian for 30 years and a Muslim for just over 10. How do i benefit in any way, shape or form by lying to people? I don't have a pateron like David Wood does paying me $8,000 a month.

Do you have any links to support what you claim about DW getting that amount of money? (It may be possible, who knows). Muslim preachers would also be after funds to support their cause just like anyone else who has decided to make their channel a source of income. Time is money after all.

There are way more Christian apologists on YouTube now than David Wood and Robert Spencer.
Those two are probably most infamous amongst English speaking Muslims who notice shock tactics before commentary on Islamic beliefs.

IMO the ones doing more long-term damage to the religion itself are the Christian scholars exposing what Islamic scholars do their best to hide from both Muslims and non-Muslims.

Shariah is Gods law and an example of this is the 10 commandments. If you don't want to beleive it that's fine. It doesn't take "the truth" of the statement away from it.

The Shariah law is based upon the 10 commandments?!

Can you support that claim?

 

[JoChris]

If only i had a dime for everyone who told me I never was a Christian I'd have several dollars by now.

They are correct whether you like it or not.
If you never believed the Gospel, if you never believed Jesus was God, if you were never born again, you were never a Cnristian.

Speaking of going to church, have you seen this video of a pastor crying that mosques are full and churches are empty?
Check it out, pretty entertaining.

Don't worry, this graph is not at all relevant.
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If you find this response ignorant why don't you re-read your own first?

People who decide to not attend church any more do not have the fear that ex-Muslims have to overcome if they no longer attend their mosque.
It is happening though.

I was Christian for 30 years and could not care less what you believe.

People make all sorts of claims, it doesn't mean they are true/ correct.

However it matters what GOD thinks about your alleged ex "faith" in Jesus.
You are accountable to God and God alone.

 

[Daze]

Do you have any links to support what you claim about DW getting that amount of money? (It may be possible, who knows). Muslim preachers would also be after funds to support their cause just like anyone else who has decided to make their channel a source of income. Time is money after all.

There are way more Christian apologists on YouTube now than David Wood and Robert Spencer.
Those two are probably most infamous amongst English speaking Muslims who notice shock tactics before commentary on Islamic beliefs.

IMO the ones doing more long-term damage to the religion itself are the Christian scholars exposing what Islamic scholars do their best to hide from both Muslims and non-Muslims.


The Shariah law is based upon the 10 commandments?!

Can you support that claim?

I seen it myself. His patreon is public.

I do need to correct myself however as i saw it well over a year ago. I just checked and indeed it has dropped which is good news, Hammer time doesn't deserve a free lunch when all he does is preach hate.

(source)

There are way more Christian apologists on YouTube now than David Wood and Robert Spencer.

Thing is to be a Christian apologist you kinda have to actually preach about Christianity.

I'll wait here for you to bring proof that those two actually invite to Christianity.

IMO the ones doing more long-term damage to the religion itself are the Christian scholars exposing what Islamic scholars do their best to hide from both Muslims and non-Muslims.

Before i share a couple dozen sources of Priests converting to Islam, I'll wait for you to show me a single Muslim Imam converting to the Christian priesthood. Shouldn't be hard to find as these would all be high profile cases, just like this dude.



or this dude


or this one.





I don't know about you but its a much bigger deal when a man of knowledge converts compared to a normie like you or me.

 

[Daze]

People make all sorts of claims, it doesn't mean they are true/ correct.

Christian parents with a Christian upbringing. All my friends were Christian. I went to church and read the Bible. I've more then proven i know the Bible here very well seeing that i quote it so much.

I say it again, couldn't care less what you believe.

 

[JoChris]

I seen it myself. His patreon is public.

I do need to correct myself however as i saw it well over a year ago. I just checked and indeed it has dropped which is good news, Hammer time doesn't deserve a free lunch when all he does is preach hate.

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Thing is to be a Christian apologist you kinda have to actually preach about Christianity.

I'll wait here for you to bring proof that those two actually invite to Christianity.

There are way more methods of preaching Christianity than following the 1-2-3 "repeat after me" checklist it sounds like you only received while you attended church.
If you had actually been a believer in Jesus you would have been aware of that already.

It is the Age of the Internet. Different presentations of the SAME Christian beliefs for different people, using different angles and different methods.

Before i share a couple dozen sources of Priests converting to Islam, I'll wait for you to show me a single Muslim Imam converting to the Christian priesthood. Shouldn't be hard to find as these would all be high profile cases, just like this dude.

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or this dude
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or this one.

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I don't know about you but its a much bigger deal when a man of knowledge converts compared to a normie like you or me.

Catholic priests are not Christians. The Roman Catholic Church is not biblical Christianity.
Again you reveal you know little about Christianity.

 

[Daze]

There are way more methods of preaching Christianity than following the 1-2-3 "repeat after me" checklist it sounds like you only received while you attended church.
If you had actually been a believer in Jesus you would have been aware of that already.

It is the Age of the Internet. Different presentations of the SAME Christian beliefs for different people, using different angles and different methods.

Catholic priests are not Christians. The Roman Catholic Church is not biblical Christianity.
Again you reveal you know little about Christianity.

This should be fun, I'm gonna check out the video and read the comments. Until then, fix your post. Its unreadable.

 

[Daze]

@JoChris ..No doubt this is a charlatan but I'm gonna have fun with it.

Patreon is the first thing i notice. Because all converts have to make sure you know where to send your money.



This is a Christian prince video!. A well known fake "ex-Muslim".


Does your narrative on Islam ONLY come from hate preachers? I guess you gotta flock to whoever feeds your bias. Am i right or am i right?


..Guy claims to be leading the prayer at 9 years old @:05? That is impressive! A 9 year old imam is about as common as butter on ice cream.

Dude also claims his great, great grand father is the cousin of the prophet Muhammad @1:10. WoW!! Talk about connections! This dude Really must know what he's talking about.

He claims to be salafi. Isn't that interesting?

He says he met a man who says and i quote "You need to evangelize people" @ 1:50 .. because that's totally what a Muslim would say.

I'm not even 2 minutes in and this guy is really cringe.


..Ok come on now. The dudes obviously lying. Leading Muslim prayer would mean hes very well versed in the Quran, able to memorize a very large chunk if not the entire Quran. For a 9 year old memorizing the Quran entirely isn't rare. So we'll say he's a hafiz for arguments sake.

But he converts to Christianity due to a pop on on his pc? Claiming the pop up answered the question that even imams used to have... while an actual Muslim knows an imam is a community leader, not a scholar.

I'm not even 3 minutes in. Do you seriously believe this guy or did you just search up a video where the title agreed with your bias?

I really wish it wasn't so easy to separate a Christian from his wallet because gullibility runs deep.

If you think this guy was an imam, or even a Muslim at that, then I am Bill Gates.

Can't you do better?

 

[JoChris]

@JoChris ..No doubt this is a charlatan but I'm gonna have fun with it.

Patreon is the first thing i notice. Because all converts have to make sure you know where to send your money.
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This is a Christian prince video!. A well known fake "ex-Muslim".
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Does your narrative on Islam ONLY come from hate preachers? I guess you gotta flock to whoever feeds your bias. Am i right or am i right?


..Guy claims to be leading the prayer at 9 years old @:05? That is impressive! A 9 year old imam is about as common as butter on ice cream.

Dude also claims his great, great grand father is the cousin of the prophet Muhammad @1:10. WoW!! Talk about connections! This dude Really must know what he's talking about.

He claims to be salafi. Isn't that interesting?

He says he met a man who says and i quote "You need to evangelize people" @ 1:50 .. because that's totally what a Muslim would say. View attachment 88046

I'm not even 2 minutes in and this guy is really cringe.


..Ok come on now. The dudes obviously lying. Leading Muslim prayer would mean hes very well versed in the Quran, able to memorize a very large chunk if not the entire Quran. For a 9 year old memorizing the Quran entirely isn't rare. So we'll say he's a hafiz for arguments sake.

But he converts to Christianity due to a pop on on his pc? Claiming the pop up answered the question that even imams used to have... while an actual Muslim knows an imam is a community leader, not a scholar.

I'm not even 3 minutes in. Do you seriously believe this guy or did you just search up a video where the title agreed with your bias?

I really wish it wasn't so easy to separate a Christian from his wallet because gullibility runs deep.

If you think this guy was an imam, or even a Muslim at that, then I am Bill Gates.

Can't you do better?

Christian Prince is not a Muslim, never has been, never will be. He is an Arab though, and had to attend Muslim schools and he did a Sharia Law degree in order to defend Christianity against Islam.

I have listened to a lot of his talks on youtube in the past. I most certainly know that for sure.

Here are some of his books, different languages though on archive.org. https://archive.org/search?query=creator:"Christian+Prince"&and[]=mediatype:"texts"

If you cannot even get that right, how can you be trusted to analyse anything carefully?!!!

Meet Christian Prince, An Arabian Apostle - Believers Portal

Christian Prince is the author of “The Deception of Allah” and “Qur’an And Science in Depth”. Christian Prince was born and raised in a Christian family in the Middle East. He is a native Arabic speaker. After his teachers criticized his religion, he determined to study Islam and earned a degree...

believersportal.com

Christian Prince was born and raised in a Christian family in the Middle East. He is a native Arabic speaker. After his teachers criticized his religion, he determined to study Islam and earned a degree in Islamic Law (Sharia Law) & Civil Law. This makes him qualified to be a Judge in Islamic court, having intimate knowledge of the foundational Islamic texts. He uses this knowledge to address an expansive list of topics representing typical questions or myths about Islam. The coverage of each topic includes explanation and specific relevant quotes from Islamic sources.

 

[Daze]

Christian Prince is not a Muslim, never has been, never will be. He is an Arabic though, and had to attend Muslim schools and he did a Sharia Law degree in order to defend Christianity against Islam.

I have listened to a lot of his talks in the past. I most certainly know that for sure.

Here are some of his books, different languages though on archive.org. https://archive.org/search?query=creator:"Christian+Prince"&and[]=mediatype:"texts"

If you cannot even get that right, how can you be trusted to analyse anything carefully?!!!

Meet Christian Prince, An Arabian Apostle - Believers Portal

Christian Prince is the author of “The Deception of Allah” and “Qur’an And Science in Depth”. Christian Prince was born and raised in a Christian family in the Middle East. He is a native Arabic speaker. After his teachers criticized his religion, he determined to study Islam and earned a degree...

believersportal.com

Christian Prince was born and raised in a Christian family in the Middle East. He is a native Arabic speaker. After his teachers criticized his religion, he determined to study Islam and earned a degree in Islamic Law (Sharia Law) & Civil Law. This makes him qualified to be a Judge in Islamic court, having intimate knowledge of the foundational Islamic texts. He uses this knowledge to address an expansive list of topics representing typical questions or myths about Islam. The coverage of each topic includes explanation and specific relevant quotes from Islamic sources.

He claimed to be an ex-Muslim, but i could care less about him. Just like Wood, 100% of his content is anti Islam.
I'm still waiting for you to produce one single Muslim imam who converted to Christianity.

due to your ridiculous claim of..

Christian scholars exposing what Islamic scholars do their best to hide from both Muslims and non-Muslims.

Because the facts are Christian men of knowledge are choosing Islam and in droves.

If you intend to source videos i highly suggest you watch it because liars are easily exposed.

 

[JoChris]

He claimed to be an ex-Muslim, but i could care less about him. Just like Wood, 100% of his content is anti Islam.
I'm still waiting for you to produce one single Muslim imam who converted to Christianity.

due to your ridiculous claim of..

Because the facts are Christian men of knowledge are choosing Islam and in droves.

If you intend to source videos i highly suggest you watch it because liars are easily exposed.

That man above is not Christian Prince. CP has never put his face on camera. He would be immediately arrested if he went to any Islamic country. We all know why.

The man in the film clip said he that he had been an Imam. If you aren't willing to take his word for it that is your problem.

If you dismiss everything that an ex-Muslim/ a non-Christian says which contradicts your Islamic worldview then there is no point interacting with you.

 

[Daze]

That man above is not Christian Prince. CP has never put his face on camera. He would be immediately arrested if he went to any Islamic country. We all know why.

The man in the film clip said he that he had been an Imam. If you aren't willing to take his word for it that is your problem.

If you dismiss everything that an ex-Muslim/ a non-Christian says which contradicts your Islamic worldview then there is no point interacting with you.

The video literally credits Christian Prince at 40 seconds in. Thank you for proving you never even watched your own video. Just sourced it because the title fed your bias. But i discourage watching it anyway. Its really cringe.

I don't follow CP so no, i don't know why, nor do i care what lies he's told you so the "why" is irrelevant. I know the name and know what he's about. That's enough.

Its clear you didn't watch the video and i have already shown how the alleged Muslim is lying. I guess you missed this pasted quotes above.

Bring me something legit. No doubt people leave Islam. But don't bring me some obvious liar that i can debunk in the opening seconds.

Still waitng for you to prove a single Muslim Imam converted to Christianity.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

I've told all of these things here before. Idk if you forgot or if you're trying to catch me in a lie or something?

My mother was a Jehovah's witness and my father was a Baptist. I just considered myself Christian.

God guided me to Islam through music by simply showing me how evil it is. Back then music was a massive part of my life and it was my gateway into Islam back in late 2010, early 2011. I know I've mentioned all of this before.


Islam is appealing because it has proofs. Many proofs, like I've listed some in my signs of the hour thread. There is no blind faith on this side of the fence.

My book does not contradict my beliefs. Islam is appealing because it makes perfect sense. It is logical Red.
God says himself in the Bible that he is not the author of confusion. (Corin 14:33)


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Now if there are Christians who don't understand this (and we have several here).. Then it can't be said that Christianity is logical.
If the trinity was perfectly logical there would be no such thing as a Unitarian.

It doesn't make a lick of sense to say God the father is god and Jesus is god but God the father is not Jesus.
Yet Jesus says plainly "God is one". (Duet 6:4)

I've made a thread on this years ago. The 3-1 is a pagan concept taken from pagan religions exactly like your Easter.

We can argue about this all day and already have here for many hours in the past. I don't want to continue beating this dead horse.
I am merely showing you it is not logical. It takes indoctrination and herd mentality to accept that a man called a prophet 6 or 7 times in the Bible is god incarnate. I mean a child can see it Red.



On the other hand Islam makes perfect sense.

God is one, alone without partners.
He is the eternal, the absolute.
He does not beget nor was he begotten.
There is nothing within the creation that can be compared to him. (Surah Ikhlas 1-4)

Hi @Daze - just catching up…

I asked open ended questions to let you set out what Christianity meant to you and what drew you to Islam. You may well have posted up some of that elsewhere but I was unaware of some of it.

I can certainly remember a moment when I realised how much of the music industry had been infiltrated by evil interests. A man who had been involved in the music industry spoke at our local church and exposed a lot about the R&B and rock scene at the time. An example that stuck with me was that Jefferson Starship allegedly (and I think did) have the words “the son of Satan” playing backwards over a forward lyric “a child is coming, everything’s going to be better, brighter…”

A CHILD IS COMING Lyrics - JEFFERSON STARSHIP | eLyrics.net

From Blows Against The Empire (1970) Written by: Paul Kantner, Grace Slick, David Crosby A CHILD IS COMING Last electric S...

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Whether the backward masking worked or not in some of these early songs, the intention was clear. Evil people using a seemingly innocent song to sow an evil message. Regardless, these days, many “artists” are saying the same things in a forwards direction. After I the meeting, I wouldn’t listen to any modern music for a long time, just in case… It’s easy to think that all musicians are purveyors of wickedness and I think I was very hard line on this till I listened to an album from my parents record collection some time later that had nothing of that spirit about it…

Anyway…

I wasn’t trying to catch you out or judge your Christianity either. I was just trying to get a sense of whether you had ever known Jesus as “Saviour” in a sense that I remember experiencing so vividly when I found myself talking with Him about what he did for me one Christmas morning (after listening to a track 14:25 in on a cassette that had been lying on our kitchen table). I was also wondering if you had ever known God as “Father”? I’m not here to judge you, I just wanted to know.

One of my favourite essays from C.S. Lewis was entitled “Meditation in a toolshed” which sets out a marked difference in the experience of looking at a beam of light falling through a crack in the panels and than looking along the light and losing a sense of both the beam and the shed as the garden came into view. My point is that “Christianity” looks very different from within the beam than without it. Some things, just like the garden in the illustration, (including the Trinity btw) are completely incomprehensible when looking from the side.

The faith of Thomas what that he would only believe after he saw, the faith of Abraham was to believe before he saw. Fortunately, God is gracious and He will accept us even with the faith of Thomas, but He wants us to grow so we have the faith of Abraham!

 

[Daze]

Hi @Daze - just catching up…

I asked open ended questions to let you set out what Christianity meant to you and what drew you to Islam. You may well have posted up some of that elsewhere but I was unaware of some of it.

I can certainly remember a moment when I realised how much of the music industry had been infiltrated by evil interests. A man who had been involved in the music industry spoke at our local church and exposed a lot about the R&B and rock scene at the time. An example that stuck with me was that Jefferson Starship allegedly (and I think did) have the words “the son of Satan” playing backwards over a forward lyric “a child is coming, everything’s going to be better, brighter…”

A CHILD IS COMING Lyrics - JEFFERSON STARSHIP | eLyrics.net

From Blows Against The Empire (1970) Written by: Paul Kantner, Grace Slick, David Crosby A CHILD IS COMING Last electric S...

www.elyrics.net

Whether the backward masking worked or not in some of these early songs, the intention was clear. Evil people using a seemingly innocent song to sow an evil message. Regardless, these days, many “artists” are saying the same things in a forwards direction. After I the meeting, I wouldn’t listen to any modern music for a long time, just in case… It’s easy to think that all musicians are purveyors of wickedness and I think I was very hard line on this till I listened to an album from my parents record collection some time later that had nothing of that spirit about it…

Anyway…

I wasn’t trying to catch you out or judge your Christianity either. I was just trying to get a sense of whether you had ever known Jesus as “Saviour” in a sense that I remember experiencing so vividly when I found myself talking with Him about what he did for me one Christmas morning (after listening to a track 14:25 in on a cassette that had been lying on our kitchen table). I was also wondering if you had ever known God as “Father”? I’m not here to judge you, I just wanted to know.

One of my favourite essays from C.S. Lewis was entitled “Meditation in a toolshed” which sets out a marked difference in the experience of looking at a beam of light falling through a crack in the panels and than looking along the light and losing a sense of both the beam and the shed as the garden came into view. My point is that “Christianity” looks very different from within the beam than without it. Some things, just like the garden in the illustration, (including the Trinity btw) are completely incomprehensible when looking from the side.

The faith of Thomas what that he would only believe after he saw, the faith of Abraham was to believe before he saw. Fortunately, God is gracious and He will accept us even with the faith of Thomas, but He wants us to grow so we have the faith of Abraham!

I will argue music is satanic, not because it blatantly is today with songs like WAP by Cardi B. But mainly because i know it was frowned on when the last prophet walked.

The prophet (saw) said : "From among my followers some people will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. - Sahih al-Bukhari 5590

This hadith is an end times sign, in that Muslims would begin to listen to music... If fornication and music are given in the same example, its enough for me to try to avoid it.

I get that music can seem innocent but when you take a song like twinkle twinkle little star and play it backwards only to hear is say "i wish there was no god" you really need to take a step back and try to see the big picture.

Islamic scholars say music and the Quran can not exist in the same heart. One will always try to force the other out and its important for Muslims to memorize their book. I have to agree with this sentiment. As a Muslim it is really best to avoid music entirely.



My dad thought Jesus was god if memory serves. I'm not 100% on this as he passed on 28 years ago, but i think he did. I know my aunt (his sister) does because we fight alot. She hates that I'm Muslim. Like most brainwashed Americans, she is certain I'm going to hell. But i see what they don't see.

One of my brothers believes in the trinity.. i forget the sects name. Pentecostal maybe, but its one of those churches that speak in tongues, which to me is demonic. But i don't think i personally ever did see Jesus as divine. While i disagree with my brother on Jesus status, he raised his kids right by not allowing a tv in the home. Imagine being 30 years old (his kids) and never seen a tv show. Kinda like being Amish, isn't it?

My oldest brother is a Unitarian, my oldest sister is Unitarian, but she's not really religious. 2 of my other sisters are Muslim and the last sister is a JW like my mother. 2 brothers, 4 sisters. Diverse beliefs i guess you can say.

To me Jesus has always been like prophet Moses parting the red sea or Solomon talking with the birds. Jesus resurrected the dead because God gave him the powers to do so. Jesus tells us in the Bible he can do nothing on his own (John 5:30).

Personally i think if you worship anything but God, hell is pretty much guaranteed.

It is the first commandment in Christianity and the worst sin in Islam. Literally in Islam setting up partners with God (in Gods eyes) is worse then being a rapist, a murderer, a pdf file and so on. When you stop and think about it.. rightly so. Everything we had, have and ever will have comes from God. How ignorant is it to thank another for his blessings?

I often say this but its the truth. Those God guides can not fall astray, while those he leaves behind have no hope.

It is God who guides, it is God who made me Muslim.

God willing i will die as a Muslim.