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[lightseeker]

These forums have been around for a good decade now. Its funny, VC got famous (while not so much today) because he basically exposed the deep state, something uncommon a decade ago.

Which is what Muslims and Christians essentially do. There has always been alot of Muslims and Christians here due to this basic fact. We are the 'conspiracy theorists" even though there's nothing conspiratorial here today.

I can see you're not even a year old amongst this group so I'll mention there used to be alot of Muslims here. Nearly every Muslim i knew here is now gone. Even some of the OG"s.

Gee, i wonder why they left?

Let me give you my perspective being born in a Christian town / family and converting to Islam around 2011. Because you are highly ignorant on many things.



I'm guessing the Quran thread is a great threat to you? I haven't posted in it recently yet i intend to.
But if i looked I'm expecting it to be somewhat buried due to most of the Muslims having moved on.

I have several Islamic threads here, The majority are waiting for me to update.

Please highlight threads where Islam is trying to take over these boards?

Its funny because you seem to think these are some kind of Christian forums because it is mostly Christians who remain. Here's a little wake up call, we still have atheists here like Alan and these were NEVER Christian boards.

Just ask any of the people who have been here forever like @Orwell's mentor



One of even mediocre intelligence will question what they hear, especially today.

The Prophet of Islam has never had sex outside of marriage. These women you speak of are his wives. If he treated them poorly then why are most converts to Islam women themselves?

Islam puts women on a pedestal and this is a fact. Sadly bias keeps some people from actually looking into it.

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Shariah law is literally Gods law. The 10 commandments are shariah. Thou shall not steal, kill, lie, etc are all shariah law.

Shariah law in Islam today is basically your old testament, such as cutting off the hand of a thief, which many Christians outright reject (old test that is).

If shariah law was in effect you'd never see things like this. As mockery of the prophets brings a death penalty in Islam.

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Little known fact that Muslims have been here for 200 years.

US Founding Fathers on Islam

Juan Cole British social philosopher John Locke was extremely influential on the Founding Generation, and on the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. John Locke had already advocated civil rights for non-Christians, including Muslims, in his Letter on Toleration: 'Thus if solemn assemblies...

www.juancole.com

View attachment 87950 "Mohamedan's" are Muslims.

Seriously, where do you think "freedom of religion" comes from when the founding fathers were from Europe, alleged Christians?

Hilarious how you speak of indoctrination.

Also hilarious how you speak of infiltration. Tell me, are you American Indian?
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Show me where you are censored? I see VC let A LOT of things pass. I mean that fact that most Muslims have up and left kinda points to the opposite, don't cha think?



Honestly, this comes from people like you. Hating on literally 2 billion people.




I couldn't agree more.

As Jeff Foxworthy used to say.. "Here's your sign".

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Whyd you post the comic without the joke?

 

[Daze]

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Why is it necessary? From time millennia people have always thought "this land is mine".

The entire comic just reiterates my point. Were whites native to North America? Nope, but every single one thinks this is their land.

 

[Daze]

I'm curious, where has anyone said anything about Sharia Law? Better yet, why should this be an issue or concern for anyone on here?

I've looked up on three search engines and this is what I found and the latest article seems to be from last May

Google:

sharia law - Google Search

DuckDuckGo:

What is Shariah law?

Since 2010, more than 200 anti-Shariah bills have been introduced in 43 states.

www.nbcnews.com

Escosia:

https://www.ecosia.org/search?method=index&q=sharia%20law

We've had two years of occultists doing what they can to force us into worshiping them as UAC has posted here, yet, Sharia Law should be an issue or the Muslim faith? Add to it, nearly every practicing Muslim has disappeared from these forums due to their treatment on here so I do agree with you with regard to the love and respect. I'm guessing that there are many on here don't have the self-respect to treat others with it because you can't give what you don't have for yourself.

Interesting how the world is against shariah law. The "why" can be summed up quickly.

LGBT would literally disappear if shariah went global.

Our money, literally built on interest, would disappear if shariah went global as usury is haram.
This means no central banks, no Rothschild. No Blackrock.
No getting a $150,000 student college loan that locks you into debt for life.

Intoxicants, our modern day US refereed to as "pill nation" moniker would disappear along with the intoxicants.

Porn would disappear. Fornication would disappear. Our media would not lie at all, let alone 24/7 like they do today.

I can go on but essentially our entire way of life would change drastically, especially for the money lenders on top. So they spend time and money indoctrinating people like the OP to hate shariah.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

Interesting how the world is against shariah law. The "why" can be summed up quickly.

LGBT would literally disappear if shariah went global.

Our money, literally built on interest, would disappear if shariah went global as usury is haram.
This means no central banks, no Rothschild. No Blackrock.
No getting a $150,000 student college loan that locks you into debt for life.

Intoxicants, our modern day US refereed to as "pill nation" moniker would disappear along with the intoxicants.

Porn would disappear. Fornication would disappear. Our media would not lie at all, let alone 24/7 like they do today.

I can go on but essentially our entire way of life would change drastically, especially for the money lenders on top. So they spend time and money indoctrinating people like the OP to hate shariah.

Geez, not this thread again, lol! That said, thanks for explaining what sharia law is, it's much appreciated. I think people need to blame something, but for some reason or another, aren't able to stand up and take responsibility for what's transpiring...? I honestly don't know, but it's as though they're punching in the dark, with the hope they'll hit the "enemy", when they're afraid to acknowledge who the enemy is.

I posted this picture from Cynthia's Twitter feed here, and @DesertRose posted this 13 minute video here, that explicitly explains it's the Rothschild's mission to destroy Christianity in western countries. However, Islam is the problem? If anything, from what I read, Islam which is an Abrahamic religion, is pushing back with a lot of this forced indoctrination in the west, which hopefully, will give Christians the bravery and stamina to stand up to this "Age of Aquarius" nonsense the elite want implemented by 2025.

The real enemy used to be called out more often on here with more critical analysis, but not so much anymore. As you said, you can't blame them.

 

[Lizard King]

Age of Aquarius was a pretty good song by the Fifth Dimension.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

Age of Aquarius was a pretty good song by the Fifth Dimension.

I actually mentioned it in this post here:

Is Religion A Form Of Mind Control?

I have a weed strain that probably no one else has in the world,accidental mix of "Blueberry Headband" and "Tangie Banana".It dont look,smell or taste like any other weed plant i have seen and ive seen many.Did god design that plant/strain of weed ? Was it all gods plan that this weed strain...

vigilantcitizenforums.com

It illustrates how long they've been attempting to push this anti-Christ/anti-God narrative on us.

 

[Seekeroftruth55]

@Daze I'm sorry, but it was so hard to read the preaching as it was too long.
But I'm gonna say, and with peace as well, it's fine if we don't agree. We don't have to, and that's okay. I just see that this religion is being pushed too hard on the forum and it comes off as an agenda, sadly, but again, we don't have to agree on that.
I may get hate for this, but that's fine, I'm okay with that. Sometimes life is life and we have to deal with people not liking us, and not agreeing/getting along. I, or anyone else can't do anything about this.
Sadly, we live in a time where everything is censored, even on here, it seems.
And yes, this thread again Mentor, this is something that bothers me, and it's sad that I, or anyone else who doesn't agree with this religion is pushed to believe in it. Maybe it's just time to accept that we just won't all agree and that's okay.

 

[Lizard King]

At least this thread isn't about kpop or whatever BTS stands for. I am amazed at the amount of posts those threads receive.

 

[Daze]

Geez, not this thread again, lol! That said, thanks for explaining what sharia law is, it's much appreciated. I think people need to blame something, but for some reason or another, aren't able to stand up and take responsibility for what's transpiring...? I honestly don't know, but it's as though they're punching in the dark, with the hope they'll hit the "enemy", when they're afraid to acknowledge who the enemy is.

I posted this picture from Cynthia's Twitter feed here, and @DesertRose posted this 13 minute video here, that explicitly explains it's the Rothschild's mission to destroy Christianity in western countries. However, Islam is the problem? If anything, from what I read, Islam which is an Abrahamic religion, is pushing back with a lot of this forced indoctrination in the west, which hopefully, will give Christians the bravery and stamina to stand up to this "Age of Aquarius" nonsense the elite want implemented by 2025.

The real enemy used to be called out more often on here with more critical analysis, but not so much anymore. As you said, you can't blame them.

Seriously, Islam is taking over VC, we have to do something Orwell!!

I am astounded at the ignorance found on these boards today. There used to be over a dozen Muslims here. Where are they?
Ignorance like this thread, and others like it push them away. Me and at least 20 others have been giving Islams point of view here for like a decade.

Yet we still have threads like this?

@Daze I just see that this religion is being pushed too hard on the forum and it comes off as an agenda.

The non-existent agenda you mean.

I just checked "whats new"



Where is the Islamic agenda exactly?

I see Christian threads. But that doesn't count because VC stands for Vigilant Christian, doesn't it?

You're just a bigot. You read my post and saw that there was nothing you could morally reply to because all i stated were facts.

 

[Seekeroftruth55]

You're just a bigot.

Just proved my point with using buzzwords.
Those threads posted are just from the last couple of hours, there's been more.
I was even saying that this was my opinion, but you didn't let me have it.
So I'm a bigot. Who cares? Please let it be.

 

[Seekeroftruth55]

At least this thread isn't about kpop or whatever BTS stands for. I am amazed at the amount of posts those threads receive.

Exactly! Lol! It's crazy how much of that was going on, I don't even visit any of them!

 

[Orwell's mentor]

Seriously, Islam is taking over VC, we have to do something Orwell!!

I am astounded at the ignorance found on these boards today. There used to be over a dozen Muslims here. Where are they?
Ignorance like this thread, and others like it push them away. Me and at least 20 others have been giving Islams point of view here for like a decade.

Yet we still have threads like this?




The non-existent agenda you mean.

I just checked "whats new"

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Where is the Islamic agenda exactly?

I see Christian threads. But that doesn't count because VC stands for Vigilant Christian, doesn't it?

You're just a bigot. You read my post and saw that there was nothing you could morally reply to because all i stated were facts.

Evidently, many have left. There are only traces of them now, be it, introducing themselves in this thread:

Introduce Yourself!

New to the VC Forums? Was a member of the previous forums? Introduce or reintroduce yourself!

vigilantcitizenforums.com

Or mentioned in this one:

Whatever happened to ...?

Do you ever wonder what happened to former posters? Well, this is a thread where you can ask and share about that or bring up posters past. I will start it off with three. Whatever happened to Tarek, Kung Fu, and Polymoog?

vigilantcitizenforums.com

So many have left and have decided not to return. It may explain what @Maes17 meant when he stated these boards have lost their "mo-jo" and decided to leave himself. There is a different vibe on here now, and they're not as engaging as they once were.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

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People leave get over it.

Some come BACK!!!!!

Your incessant need to be rude to people online is odd to say the least. I'm putting you on ignore - later.

 

[Seekeroftruth55]

I just want to also clarify, this isn't about being "racist" or "bigoted" it's about how we are being gaslit into believing in something we just don't believe in. It's not like we are trying to force anyone away, it's more about how we don't like certain views being pushed, and if we are against a religion, then we get called out and buzz words are used for censorship.
Maybe if those who come on here who believe in sharia law just stuck to discussing topics civilly, then there would be no need for saying anything. I wouldn't have to make this thread. Maybe that's why so many were driven away before, it's due to indoctrination.
I don't have any problem with the individual. I feel sad for anyone born into Sharia law, I sympathize. I just can't stand it when they push and push about it. Just a thought.

 

[JoChris]

I just want to also clarify, this isn't about being "racist" or "bigoted" it's about how we are being gaslit into believing in something we just don't believe in. It's not like we are trying to force anyone away, it's more about how we don't like certain views being pushed, and if we are against a religion, then we get called out and buzz words are used for censorship.
Maybe if those who come on here who believe in sharia law just stuck to discussing topics civilly, then there would be no need for saying anything. I wouldn't have to make this thread. Maybe that's why so many were driven away before, it's due to indoctrination.
I don't have any problem with the individual. I feel sad for anyone born into Sharia law, I sympathize. I just can't stand it when they push and push about it. Just a thought.

I sort of agree with you but I have chosen to spend less time on the forum than I did during COVID lockdowns.
I therefore choose my battles carefully. It actually takes time to do careful entries that require research involving library searches.

There are way fewer Muslims than several years ago when the forum was very busy with exchanges between Christians and Muslims. I would reluctantly return to "battle" again if it became like that again but I would be more direct in some areas and gentle in others. I do not wish Muslims to feel I am attacking THEM personally if I can easily avoid it (I know that will still happen if I quote their texts though).

 

[Lizard King]

I have always been suspicious of the word bigot.

 

[Daze]

I have always been suspicious of the word bigot.

Lets define the word bigot.


A person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racist or religious group)



Now look at this thread we are in. I'd say the OP definitely has a problem with a religious group.

By the very definition of the word Seek is a bigot.

 

[ToxicFemininitySucks]

Well, im probably opening myself up for attack by saying this, but here are my thoughts on this

- i see and appreciate how Muslims push back against the lgbtpbbq+×- agenda in western nations.

- i havent sat down and studied sharia law, so i admit any biases would come from ignorance.

- somewhat related, it is not "racist" to point out any issues with Islam. "Muslim" is not a race...

- my main issue with islam is that they reject Jesus Christ. I have heard that Muslims say "God had no son". Am i incorrect about this?

- ive long noticed that when Muslims debate Christians or speak against Christianity they always use strawman arguments equating Christian with catholic church, for example, or assuming that all Christians celebrate pagan holidays, or that all Christians would be ok with attending "affirming " churches, that kind of stuff.

 

[Daze]

Well, im probably opening myself up for attack by saying this, but here are my thoughts on this

- i see and appreciate how Muslims push back against the lgbtpbbq+×- agenda in western nations.

- i havent sat down and studied sharia law, so i admit any biases would come from ignorance.

- somewhat related, it is not "racist" to point out any issues with Islam. "Muslim" is not a race...

- my main issue with islam is that they reject Jesus Christ. I have heard that Muslims say "God had no son". Am i incorrect about this?

- ive long noticed that when Muslims debate Christians or speak against Christianity they always use strawman arguments equating Christian with catholic church, for example, or assuming that all Christians celebrate pagan holidays, or that all Christians would be ok with attending "affirming " churches, that kind of stuff.

-Muslims and Christians should push back against LGBT. We're the only ones who believe in the people of Sodom and Gomorrah.

- fair enough

- I agree, Muslims are not a race. Its odd you would make this point. Have people called you racist for "highlighting issues" in Islam?

- When there are over 90 verses in the Bible that reject the divinity of Jesus one needs to ask God to show them the truth.
What do you say to those Christians who reject the divinity of Jesus? We have several here.

- Catholics are literally a billion strong. 1 in every 2 who identify as Christian are Catholic. How is it a straw man argument?

I'm well aware there are Christians who don't celebrate "Christian" holidays. Yet there are others, including here, who swear by it.

Problem is there are 40,000 sects in Christianity today and your brothers can have completely different beliefs then you.
We have on-going threads here now where Christians are debating Christians.


This is not intended as an attack so don't take it as one.

 

[ToxicFemininitySucks]

-Muslims and Christians should push back against LGBT. We're the only ones who believe in the people of Sodom and Gomorrah

I agree.

I agree, Muslims are not a race. Its odd you would make this point. Have people called you racist for "highlighting issues" in Islam?

Not personally, but i see it all the time, usually from the liberal crowd - that the reason Christians (who they stereotype as white, even thought Christianity is also not a race...) are opposed to Muslims is because we are "racist".

When there are over 90 verses in the Bible that reject the divinity of Jesus one needs to ask God to show them the truth.

By "divinity of Jesus" do you mean "Jesus is God" or "Jesus is God's son"?

I don't want to derail the thread to debate the trinity (though i am a believer), but as far as this thread just addressing the claim that "God had no son":

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

What do you say to those Christians who reject the divinity of Jesus? We have several here.

Jahtruthers claim they aren't Christians

Catholics are literally a billion strong. 1 in every 2 who identify as Christian are Catholic. How is it a straw man argument?

I'm well aware there are Christians who don't celebrate "Christian" holidays. Yet there are others, including here, who swear by it.

Problem is there are 40,000 sects in Christianity today and your brothers can have completely different beliefs then you.
We have on-going threads here now where Christians are debating Christians.

The reason i would call it a strawman argument is because many of us would never defend catholicism, yet we get lumped in with them.

While i don't believe in celebrating the pagan "Christian" holidays, i don't believe people who do so are damned if their own conscience doesn't convict them of it. I certainly don't believe Christians are required to ohserve these days.

To ge honest, most of the threads that i've seen that appear to be Christians debating Christians usually involve either a catholic or jahtruther derailing them...

This is not intended as an attack so don't take it as one.

Understood.