near-death experiences (NDEs)

[Orwell's mentor]

While discussing Lee Strobel’s documentary, “The Case for Heaven”, someone gave me the DVD, “Heaven is for Real:” to watch, which I found genuinely thought-provoking. I found Colton Burpo’s accounts fascinating considering he was only four years old at the time he had his life-altering experience. Here he is discussing some of his account in an interview last year:

Colton Burpo | Exclusive Interview (24:15 mins)

After watching the movie, I then found some interviews with Lee regarding his documentary with Sean McDowell and Melissa Dougherty. I was intrigued with what Lee had to say as some of what was said seemed to corroborate Colton’s near-death experience (NDE). However, I’m with Lee that one needs to be prudent with some of these accounts because some of them appear to teeter and fully encompass the “New Age”, "Age of Aquarius" garbage doctrine. The determining factor of events seems to be a believer of Jesus.

For example, the organization International Association for Near-Death Studies Inc. (IANDS) states (somewhere) on their site that are more than 9 million documented accounts of NDEs. In addition to having a lot information regarding NDEs, the site and organization itself does not appear to hold a bias with regard to faith or religion, as there were some that seemed to have similar accounts to Colton’s. That said, I’ve listened to some of the videos on their YT channel and I personally found some did preach the “we are one consciousness, we don’t need different religions, let’s all mediate” ideology. One of them was Anita Moorjani. Her intentions seem sincere, but after listening to her NDE, it didn’t sit well with me. I don’t think it helped she mentioned Wayne Dyer helped promote her book. What also struck me with her account is after her NDE, her cancer was cured. It reminded me of this story from Unsolved Mysteries where another woman was cured of her cancer from a UFO:

Flying UFO Device Cures Woman with Cancer (8:07 mins)

I also watched the movie/documentary “Life to Afterlife Death and Back”. Again, interesting accounts, but Ingrid, the woman who almost drowned at the age of three, at 14:10, recalls seeing white bubbles that were surrounded by light in the water with her NDE. Further, in addition to believing in reincarnation and seeing her parents as her equals, she makes the statement that she came back having more knowledge than what she knew. This time, not only am I reminded of the Gnostic Gospels, but the ending of the Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skulls movie, with Cate Blanchett’s character pleading “I vant to know, I vant to know” and Indiana saying "they" were after knowledge. Hidden in plain sight, perhaps:

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - final scene (5:08 mins)

Evidently, something is happening when people have NDEs. Apparently, it is what’s in the heart and what one believes that determines the account of events. As Jesus said in Colossians 3:2:

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"Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth."​

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

While discussing Lee Strobel’s documentary, “The Case for Heaven”, someone gave me the DVD, “Heaven is for Real:” to watch, which I found genuinely thought-provoking. I found Colton Burpo’s accounts fascinating considering he was only four years old at the time he had his life-altering experience. Here he is discussing some of his account in an interview last year:

Colton Burpo | Exclusive Interview (24:15 mins)

After watching the movie, I then found some interviews with Lee regarding his documentary with Sean McDowell and Melissa Dougherty. I was intrigued with what Lee had to say as some of what was said seemed to corroborate Colton’s near-death experience (NDE). However, I’m with Lee that one needs to be prudent with some of these accounts because some of them appear to teeter and fully encompass the “New Age”, "Age of Aquarius" garbage doctrine. The determining factor of events seems to be a believer of Jesus.

For example, the organization International Association for Near-Death Studies Inc. (IANDS) states (somewhere) on their site that are more than 9 million documented accounts of NDEs. In addition to having a lot information regarding NDEs, the site and organization itself does not appear to hold a bias with regard to faith or religion, as there were some that seemed to have similar accounts to Colton’s. That said, I’ve listened to some of the videos on their YT channel and I personally found some did preach the “we are one consciousness, we don’t need different religions, let’s all mediate” ideology. One of them was Anita Moorjani. Her intentions seem sincere, but after listening to her NDE, it didn’t sit well with me. I don’t think it helped she mentioned Wayne Dyer helped promote her book. What also struck me with her account is after her NDE, her cancer was cured. It reminded me of this story from Unsolved Mysteries where another woman was cured of her cancer from a UFO:

Flying UFO Device Cures Woman with Cancer (8:07 mins)

I also watched the movie/documentary “Life to Afterlife Death and Back”. Again, interesting accounts, but Ingrid, the woman who almost drowned at the age of three, at 14:10, recalls seeing white bubbles that were surrounded by light in the water with her NDE. Further, in addition to believing in reincarnation and seeing her parents as her equals, she makes the statement that she came back having more knowledge than what she knew. This time, not only am I reminded of the Gnostic Gospels, but the ending of the Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skulls movie, with Cate Blanchett’s character pleading “I vant to know, I vant to know” and Indiana saying "they" were after knowledge. Hidden in plain sight, perhaps:

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - final scene (5:08 mins)

Evidently, something is happening when people have NDEs. Apparently, it is what’s in the heart and what one believe that determines the account of events. As Jesus said in Colossians 3:2:

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"Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth."​

I think NDEs and dreams have much in common. Just because someone has a vivid dream that appears to reveal something profound doesn’t make it true. I the same way, people teetering on the edge of departing this life often have profound spiritual experiences. If these are above the realm of psychosomatic phenomena and actually connect to a wider spirituality, then the law of non-contradiction would indicate that some are “true” and some are deceptive or false.

 

[Lizard King]

The only people who know what being dead is like are dead people. The dead tell no tales.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

I think NDEs and dreams have much in common. Just because someone has a vivid dream that appears to reveal something profound doesn’t make it true. I the same way, people teetering on the edge of departing this life often have profound spiritual experiences. If these are above the realm of psychosomatic phenomena and actually connect to a wider spirituality, then the law of non-contradiction would indicate that some are “true” and some are deceptive or false.

NDEs and dreams are not the same. There are accounts of people who've had them and can describe things in great detail that were happening when they were dying. As well, Lee says that people have recounted relatives that didn't know but realized who they were later when they regained consciousness. Colton also experienced this when he saw his great-grandfather. Here it is in the movie:

Heaven is for Real Movie 2014

 

[HansConsciousness]

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..There are accounts of people who've had them and can describe things in great detail that were happening when they were dying. ..
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Awrite mate!?

You do realise that 'people' can make stuff up?

For example, I, can make stuff up? In fact make a cocktail of eloquent vocabulary that is so mesmerizing, so inebriating that it makes you or anyone easily believe I am telling you the truth!?

The dead are really dead. There's absolutely nothing to know what exactly happens post death and before born.

Just 2 observations to make here that:

(i) human body is made up from the Earthly matter, grows as well using up the Earthly matter (food and stuff = Earthly) (Hydrogen, Oxygen, Carbon, Calcium, Nitrogen, etc. and bunch of other trace elements). And this human body, upon conclusion goes back, i.e. disintegrates and merges back to the these elements / earthly matter.

(ii) the 2nd observation is the continuous breath in the human body that is precisely happening between the birth and death. In other words, continuous breath is what keeps the constituents of a human body (body that is breathing) not to merge back to the earthly matter / above-mentioned elements.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

Awrite mate!?

You do realise that 'people' can make stuff up?

For example, I, can make stuff up? In fact make a cocktail of eloquent vocabulary that is so mesmerizing, so inebriating that it makes you or anyone easily believe I am telling you the truth!?

The dead are really dead. There's absolutely nothing to know what exactly happens post death and before born.

Just 2 observations to make here that:

(i) human body is made up from the Earthly matter, grows as well using up the Earthly matter (food and stuff = Earthly) (Hydrogen, Oxygen, Carbon, Calcium, Nitrogen, etc. and bunch of other trace elements). And this human body, upon conclusion goes back, i.e. disintegrates and merges back to the these elements / earthly matter.

(ii) the 2nd observation is the continuous breath in the human body that is precisely happening between the birth and death. In other words, continuous breath is what keeps the constituents of a human body (body that is breathing) not to merge back to the earthly matter / above-mentioned elements.

Yes, I'm very aware of that. I was hoping that people would watch some of the video footage and read the websites and give opinions about that information, but it is what it is...

 

[A Freeman]

For any of you who are genuinely interested in this subject, that may have not yet read Margot Grey's "Return From Death", it's a must read.

The thing about NDEs is there are many, many shared experiences and similarities, regardless of the age of the human body, or the location on Earth. Fat too many for it to be "coincidental" or made-up.

What also seems amazing is how many times the Old Covenant, New Covenant and the Koran/Quran unambiguously teach us about reincarnation, which is an irrefutable fact and totally logical.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact.6934/

The reason that our Creator allows NDEs to occur is to teach the extremely stiff-necked and hard-headed that we are immortal spiritual-energy Beings (Souls), that only our Creator can give life to or destroy, and NOT the human animal bodies we see in the mirror. And even when people hear of others having out-of-body experiences, where they look down upon the human they've been temporarily incarnating -- or have those experiences themselves -- people still try to talk themselves out of reality.

We refer to ourselves as human+Beings and yet most don't even think about what that means. Why would Christ (the Spirit-Being that incarnated Jesus, the Son of Mary), tell us to NOT fear those who can only kill only the human body, but rather to fear Him Who can kill both body AND soul (spirit-Being), unless we are actually immortal spiritual-Beings temporarily incarnating these human bodies?

This goes to the very core questions of why we are here (on Earth) and what we should be doing with every precious moment, so it's not an idle subject. Is it possible to have a real discussion about this subject here please, without bringing into it any preconceived religious superstitions?

 

[HansConsciousness]

Awrite mate!?

You do realise that 'people' can make stuff up?

For example, I, can make stuff up? In fact make a cocktail of eloquent vocabulary that is so mesmerizing, so inebriating that it makes you or anyone easily believe I am telling you the truth!?

The dead are really dead. There's absolutely nothing to know what exactly happens post death and before born.

Just 2 observations to make here that:

(i) human body is made up from the Earthly matter, grows as well using up the Earthly matter (food and stuff = Earthly) (Hydrogen, Oxygen, Carbon, Calcium, Nitrogen, etc. and bunch of other trace elements). And this human body, upon conclusion goes back, i.e. disintegrates and merges back to the these elements / earthly matter.

(ii) the 2nd observation is the continuous breath in the human body that is precisely happening between the birth and death. In other words, continuous breath is what keeps the constituents of a human body (body that is breathing) not to merge back to the earthly matter / above-mentioned elements.

Thus, continuous breath seems the only real blessing by TheSource. An invisible thread , if you will, TheSpirit, TheSoul, that is attached to all alive human beings bodies in this Universe. Kinda akin to Michaelangelo's painting, bar the bearded male though, forcing his finger to the sluggish/inert human being / adam. (Human being has no idea of the blessing/breath/Michaelangelo painting's finger; hence the sluggish portrayal of adam i.e. human being). Whereas there's still, all the more & a proactive constant effort from TheSource, TheField, TheCreator, TheOmniPresent, TheOmniScient, et. al. towards the human being / adam.

- Q.E.D.





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[Doomsday Cult Mom]

NDEs and dreams are not the same. There are accounts of people who've had them and can describe things in great detail that were happening when they were dying. As well, Lee says that people have recounted relatives that didn't know but realized who they were later when they regained consciousness. Colton also experienced this when he saw his great-grandfather. Here it is in the movie:

Heaven is for Real Movie 2014

Let's not forget Belinda Carlisle hit from the eighties " Heaven is a Place on Earth ". Unfortunately she was a cocaine addict and that Heaven she thought she was living in quickly turned into Hell.

 

[phipps]

Is Heaven for Real? Absolutely. The Bible tells us so.

I had heard of Colton Burpo because of the movie Heaven Is for Real which was based on a 2010 bestselling book by Pastor Todd Burpo and Lynn Vincent. Colton is Todd Burpo's son. And the movie and book are about Colton Burpo's near death experience when he had emergency surgery at the age of four. The book and movie make claims about heaven and people who die. But how does this compare with what the Bible says?

Todd Burpo says his son experienced heaven. He wrote that Colton saw his miscarried sister and his great grandfather who had died 30 years before Colton was born. The book and movie claim that Colton shared “impossible-to-know” details about them both.

We need to ask one question though, “How does the book and movie’s claims compare against Scripture?”

Can NDEs (near-death-experiences) be trusted? What if these testimonies contradict the Bible’s teaching about the state of the dead? Can these out-of-body encounters always be trusted? There is no question, from the standpoint of the Word of God, that heaven is for real. But what do we make of people who say they have seen their dead loved ones and talked with them? Do they match the Scriptures?

No they don't. The Bible is very clear: “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 9:5-6). “For in death there is no remembrance of You; in the grave who will give You thanks” (Psalm 6:5). Everything they did on earth while they were alive ended after they died.

We are strongly warned, “And when they say to you, ‘Seek those who are mediums and wizards, who whisper and mutter,’ should not a people seek their God? Should they seek the dead on behalf of the living?” (Isaiah 8:19). Jesus compared death to sleep (John 11:11-14). People who sleep in Jesus will not awake until the resurrection (1 Thessalonians 4:13, 16-18). We do not receive immortality until Christ returns (1 Corinthians 15:51–55).

Jesus said, "Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation" (John 5:28-29).
Eternal life begins at the resurrection for the righteous and then they will go to heaven and be with Christ forever. Not before.

We have to base our beliefs squarely on the Word of God not on a person's personal experience. If something contradicts the Bible, even a four year Old's testimony, we are to reject it.

 

[Daze]

People see one of two things when they die. They see the angel of death surrounded by many other angels.
If they were an evil person then they will see angels of torment. If they were a good person then they will see angels of mercy. They do not see relatives or any human souls at all. If anything its not there time and what they actually see is demons. The so called "near death experience".

There is actually alot of details here i can cover that the last prophet (saw) mentioned but simply put, once a person dies they enter what is known as the barzakh. It is a completely different world where the departed wait for judgement day. The meaning of the word barzakh is literally translated as barrier and none can pass.

Either people are lying or the devil has deceived them. It is simply not possible to meet loved ones on your death bed, but the devil can take many different forms.

Before death approaches one and he says, "My Lord, if only You would delay me for a brief term so I would give charity and be among the righteous." But never will Allah delay a soul when its time has come. (63: 10-11 Quran)

Our time of death has already been decreed and it can not be delayed by a second. When you see the angel of death, that's it. Your trial has ended.


You can find other info here if you're interested.

What Are the Near Death Experiences of Muslims? | About Islam

A non-Muslim asks about Near Death Experiences in Islam. Christians report seeing Jesus but there are no documented NDEs of Muslims meeting Muhammad. Why?

aboutislam.net

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

NDEs and dreams are not the same. There are accounts of people who've had them and can describe things in great detail that were happening when they were dying. As well, Lee says that people have recounted relatives that didn't know but realized who they were later when they regained consciousness. Colton also experienced this when he saw his great-grandfather. Here it is in the movie:

Heaven is for Real Movie 2014

I don’t deny genuine NDEs @Orwell's mentor - On the other hand, just as people can have dreams and visions that are very profound and connect with a spiritual world separate to our own. I certainly believe that people have left this life, come back and been profoundly changed by the experience. I heard someone give their own account once…

My point was simply that the reality of true and honest experiences does not preclude the possibility of false ones. As a book I once wisely observed “test the spirits”.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

For any of you who are genuinely interested in this subject, that may have not yet read Margot Grey's "Return From Death", it's a must read.

The thing about NDEs is there are many, many shared experiences and similarities, regardless of the age of the human body, or the location on Earth. Fat too many for it to be "coincidental" or made-up.

What also seems amazing is how many times the Old Covenant, New Covenant and the Koran/Quran unambiguously teach us about reincarnation, which is an irrefutable fact and totally logical.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact.6934/

The reason that our Creator allows NDEs to occur is to teach the extremely stiff-necked and hard-headed that we are immortal spiritual-energy Beings (Souls), that only our Creator can give life to or destroy, and NOT the human animal bodies we see in the mirror. And even when people hear of others having out-of-body experiences, where they look down upon the human they've been temporarily incarnating -- or have those experiences themselves -- people still try to talk themselves out of reality.

We refer to ourselves as human+Beings and yet most don't even think about what that means. Why would Christ (the Spirit-Being that incarnated Jesus, the Son of Mary), tell us to NOT fear those who can only kill only the human body, but rather to fear Him Who can kill both body AND soul (spirit-Being), unless we are actually immortal spiritual-Beings temporarily incarnating these human bodies?

This goes to the very core questions of why we are here (on Earth) and what we should be doing with every precious moment, so it's not an idle subject. Is it possible to have a real discussion about this subject here please, without bringing into it any preconceived religious superstitions?

I agree, with the exception of the reincarnation bit. I honestly see no reason or logic with reincarnation. I used to have this conversation with a former co-worker years ago when she believed in it. For starters, who wants to come back here and secondly, what version gets judged and goes to heaven? We can also ask other questions such as who were Bill Gates, George Soros, Klaus Schwab in another lifetime and why would they need to come back? I posted this link in the OP, as it's the interview Lee has Melissa. I'm not sure exactly where he discusses reincarnation, but Lee describes it as nirvana. It's somewhere after the 13:51 mark:

31:23 mins

Is Heaven for Real? Absolutely. The Bible tells us so.

I had heard of Colton Burpo because of the movie Heaven Is for Real which was based on a 2010 bestselling book by Pastor Todd Burpo and Lynn Vincent. Colton is Todd Burpo's son. And the movie and book are about Colton Burpo's near death experience when he had emergency surgery at the age of four. The book and movie make claims about heaven and people who die. But how does this compare with what the Bible says?

Todd Burpo says his son experienced heaven. He wrote that Colton saw his miscarried sister and his great grandfather who had died 30 years before Colton was born. The book and movie claim that Colton shared “impossible-to-know” details about them both.

We need to ask one question though, “How does the book and movie’s claims compare against Scripture?”

Can NDEs (near-death-experiences) be trusted? What if these testimonies contradict the Bible’s teaching about the state of the dead? Can these out-of-body encounters always be trusted? There is no question, from the standpoint of the Word of God, that heaven is for real. But what do we make of people who say they have seen their dead loved ones and talked with them? Do they match the Scriptures?

No they don't. The Bible is very clear: “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 9:5-6). “For in death there is no remembrance of You; in the grave who will give You thanks” (Psalm 6:5). Everything they did on earth while they were alive ended after they died.

Jesus said, "Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation" (John 5:28-29).
Eternal life begins at the resurrection for the righteous and then they will go to heaven and be with Christ forever. Not before.

We have to base our beliefs squarely on the Word of God not on a person's personal experience. If something contradicts the Bible, even a four year Old's testimony, we are to reject it.

Most of hose verses discuss a physical death and physical resurrection and not a spiritual one, correct?

We are strongly warned, “And when they say to you, ‘Seek those who are mediums and wizards, who whisper and mutter,’ should not a people seek their God? Should they seek the dead on behalf of the living?” (Isaiah 8:19). Jesus compared death to sleep (John 11:11-14). People who sleep in Jesus will not awake until the resurrection (1 Thessalonians 4:13, 16-18). We do not receive immortality until Christ returns (1 Corinthians 15:51–55).

I agree. This is something that my mum used to tell me and siblings when we were younger and told us not to meddle anything that claims to communicate with dead people because they can't be physically contacted. When doing so, one is likely to be dealing with demonic entities. We should keep in mind that not all demons are maniacally evil. Some are mischievous, but an individual does not get to choose who to communicate with dealing with these entities so it's best not to deal in those practices at all. That said, if a person is near-death, I believe what is being explained is there's possibility that they're communicating within a spiritual realm. I don't pretend to have the answers but I think what's happening to these people is beyond anything in the physical realm.

People see one of two things when they die. They see the angel of death surrounded by many other angels.
If they were an evil person then they will see angels of torment. If they were a good person then they will see angels of mercy. They do not see relatives or any human souls at all. If anything its not there time and what they actually see is demons. The so called "near death experience".

There is actually alot of details here i can cover that the last prophet (saw) mentioned but simply put, once a person dies they enter what is known as the barzakh. It is a completely different world where the departed wait for judgement day. The meaning of the word barzakh is literally translated as barrier and none can pass.

Either people are lying or the devil has deceived them. It is simply not possible to meet loved ones on your death bed, but the devil can take many different forms.

Before death approaches one and he says, "My Lord, if only You would delay me for a brief term so I would give charity and be among the righteous." But never will Allah delay a soul when its time has come. (63: 10-11 Quran)

Our time of death has already been decreed and it can not be delayed by a second. When you see the angel of death, that's it. Your trial has ended.


You can find other info here if you're interested.

What Are the Near Death Experiences of Muslims? | About Islam

A non-Muslim asks about Near Death Experiences in Islam. Christians report seeing Jesus but there are no documented NDEs of Muslims meeting Muhammad. Why?

aboutislam.net

Interesting read, but I don't think it explains what people are experiencing. It states that Christians normally experience NDEs. That's not true. On the IANDS site, there are many NDEs and some are of Christian faith. I mentioned Anita's encounter and she's not Christian at all. In fact, after listening to her, I don't know what her faith is. She sounds like a new ager from what she's espousing. This is her talk but it is long and a bit dry. I listened to it while I was doing something productive, thankfully:

Anita Moorjani's Near Death Experience- Dying to Live (1:17:55)

As you can see from her site, she's been all over MSM. I'm DEFINITELY passing on her message:

Anita Moorjani ∞ International Speaker and New York Times Best Selling Author

Anita Moorjani is an international speaker and author of the New York Times bestseller "Dying to Be Me". In 2006, after a four-year battle with cancer, she fell into a coma and journeyed into a near-death experience (NDE).

www.anitamoorjani.com

I haven't read it, but there's also this book that's featured on the IANDS site. According to the reviews, it gives dry, scientific, yet, credible accounts of NDEs:

The Self Does Not Die: Verified Paranormal Phenomena from Near-Death Experiences

Amazon.com: The Self Does Not Die: Verified Paranormal Phenomena from Near-Death Experiences: 9780997560800: Rivas, Titus, Dirven, Anny, Smit, Rudolf H., Mays, Robert G., Holden, Janice Miner: Books

Amazon.com: The Self Does Not Die: Verified Paranormal Phenomena from Near-Death Experiences: 9780997560800: Rivas, Titus, Dirven, Anny, Smit, Rudolf H., Mays, Robert G., Holden, Janice Miner: Books

www.amazon.com

I don’t deny genuine NDEs @Orwell's mentor - On the other hand, just as people can have dreams and visions that are very profound and connect with a spiritual world separate to our own. I certainly believe that people have left this life, come back and been profoundly changed by the experience. I heard someone give their own account once…

My point was simply that the reality of true and honest experiences does not preclude the possibility of false ones. As a book I once wisely observed “test the spirits”.

Agreed. As Lee says to Melissa, it's best to have a healthy skepticism regarding the matter because some of what is interpreted does not line up with Christian theology. I appreciate Lee's perspective because he's an investigative journalist and does what he can to find people who are scholars on the topic and thereby, does what he can corroborate evidence to draw a conclusion. I should also add it's important what a person does once they come back from their NDEs. Some become believers and followers of Jesus and devote their lives to GOD, while others do something else entirely.

 

[Terminator Resistance]

Reincarnation was in the Bible once but it got removed. The only thing that makes sense when you consider a final judgement, is that you are judged for multiple lives and not just one. This solves the problem of people dying when they are a baby, or had really bad luck. Your soul adapts and new lessons are learned everytime you die so you get several chances to make it right.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

Reincarnation was in the Bible once but it got removed. The only thing that makes sense when you consider a final judgement, is that you are judged for multiple lives and not just one. This solves the problem of people dying when they are a baby, or had really bad luck. Your soul adapts and new lessons are learned everytime you die so you get several chances to make it right.

If that's the case, who am I now to "make it right"? Add to it, why would I be responsible for my so-called previous lives if I have no recollection of them? I'm guessing it was taken out because whoever wrote it might not have been a theist or believing in the Creator?

Clearly, people can believe what they want to believe. As I've said, I've worked with people who believed this and their justification or rationalization of the idea made no sense to me. I merely shrugged and realized if it made them giddy, so be it.

 

[Daze]

Interesting read, but I don't think it explains what people are experiencing.

I thought it explained it pretty well? Only those who believe they are near death will have such a dream like experience, likely influenced by their own qureen.

It does not make sense for God to send the angel of death only to later change his mind. Our time of death was written in the beginning and when your time is up you are done.

Not to discredit your sources but the truth is many lie, for example from my link above..




I do not wish to debate you Orwell as you are closer to the truth then the majority of the non-Muslims here. But the Almighty says he does not delay death in the final testament. You're free to see it however you like.

Peace.

 

[Terminator Resistance]

If that's the case, who am I now to "make it right"? Add to it, why would I be responsible for my so-called previous lives if I have no recollection of them? I'm guessing it was taken out because whoever wrote it might not have been a theist or believing in the Creator?

Clearly, people can believe what they want to believe. As I've said, I've worked with people who believed this and their justification or rationalization of the idea made no sense to me. I merely shrugged and realized if it made them giddy, so be it.

Some people remember their past lives. Also there are psychics who can see them for you because it is imprinted in your DNA and your soul. Not all are charlatans. I got my past lives described by a mentalist/psychic and he knew things about me that were totally hidden and that only me knew. But if you are unable to remember anything then you will just have events occuring in your life that reminds you of what you have to learn.

And yes anyone is entitled to their beliefs about this.

 

[Daze]

Some people remember their past lives. Also there are psychics who can see them for you because it is imprinted in your DNA and your soul. Not all are charlatans. I got my past lives described by a mentalist/psychic and he knew things about me that were totally hidden and that only me knew. But if you are unable to remember anything then you will just have things occuring in your life that reminds you of what you have to learn.

And yes anyone is entitled to their beliefs about this.

This is all work from the djinn. Sorry, but all of them are charlatans.

he knew things about me that were totally hidden and that only me knew.

Have you ever seen an old cartoon with an angel and devil on the shoulders?
This is actually the reality. We all have an angel calling us to good and a devil calling us to evil. The devil is known as your qureen and he has been with you since the second you entered this world. Feel free to do some research on them.

Thing is he knows EVERYTHING about you. When you go to a psychic they communicate with him.

The last prophet (saw) said whoever visits a fortune teller and calls him a liar, his prayer is not accepted for 40 days. For one, because entertaining them is disbelief. That is thinking anyone other then the Almighty has knowledge of the unseen.

 

[Alanantic]

Once you're out of your body you realize you aren't your body. Life appears as God's dream and you're suddenly awake in it. I've experienced that state twice in my life. You can't ever forget it.

 

[A Freeman]

There are a number of core, spiritual concepts that are being covered with this one topic, which cannot be so easily dismissed nor adequately discussed in a few paragraphs. IF we actually base our beliefs squarely on the Word of God, then we MUST accept our true reality as spiritual-Beings, or it's impossible to understand anything spiritual, including what most likely actually happened with Colton Burpo.

The most important words in all of Scripture are found in John 3:3-7, where Christ (the immortal spirit-Being) said through the mouth of Jesus (the human son of Mary):

Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE The Kingdom of God.
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-"Being" (his REAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into The Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-"Being").
That which is born of the flesh is human; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-"Being") - (a human+Being).
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye MUST be born again.

Humans see most things, including Scripture, from an upside down and backward, worldly point of view, because they have no facility to do otherwise. ALL religious superstitions are based upon this approach,

Conversely, an awakened spiritual-Being will see the actual message and meaning of the passage, which is SPIRITUAL.

The references to the “living” and the “dead” in the passage below from Ecclesiastes (and throughout Scripture) are references to the spiritually living and the spiritually dead. This should be self-evident from the context, as humans remember their human family members and friends who have died, and place great value on the worship of the dead, with tombstones and monuments dedicated to how great their human existence was which, in our true, spiritual reality, is ALL vanity.

Ecclesiastes 9:5-8
9:5 For the “living” know that they shall die (to “self”): but the “dead” know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory OF them is forgotten.
9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any [thing] that is done under the sun.
9:7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.
9:8 Let thy garments (the humans we live inside of) be always white (strive for purity and perfection – Matt. 5:48); and let thy head lack not oil [of understanding - enlightenment].
9:9 Enjoy life with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy VANITY, which He hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that [is] thy portion in [this] life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun (all of which is likewise vanity and vexation of the spirit).

Ecclesiastes 1:14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun (by humans, with their scientific “knowledge” and “technology”); and, behold, all [is] vanity and vexation of spirit.

See also:

Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the "Dead" (those under God's death sentence for treason - Rev. 12:7-9; Luke 9:55) bury their dead.

Revelation 20:12-15
20:12 And I saw the "Dead", small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another Book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life: and the "Dead" were judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works.
20:13 And the "sea" gave up the "Dead" which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their WORKS.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the "Lake of Fire". This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life (among the “Living”) was cast into the "Lake of Fire".

Luke 20:34-38
20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the "Dead", neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
20:36 NEITHER CAN THEY DIE ANY MORE: for they are equal unto the angels (spiritual-Beings); and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection (re-sure-rection - re-sure of who is Right - God).
20:37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
20:38 FOR HE IS NOT A GOD OF THE "DEAD", BUT OF THE LIVING: for all live unto Him.