Reincarnation Is An Irrefutable Fact

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There is a phenomenon related to this topic which has confused scientists for decades. The phenomenon is called "the returning soldier effect".It has been named thus because even though normally more girls are born than boys, during and immediately after a war far more boys are born.
Obviously much more of the male population dies during a war than the female population because they serve as soldiers, but strangely the balance between the genders remains pretty much the same (or in favour of the males) because of just how many boys are born during those bloody times.

 

[A Freeman]

We already have discussed this previously.
The Quran you (jahtruthers) claim to believe in considers a person who does not follow the messenger's teachings as a disbeliever.

But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.
[al-Nisa 4:65 interpretation of the meaning]

Yes, but who is THE Messenger? ALL of God's Prophets that came before Muhammed (peace be upon him), AND the One that comes AFTER--Who is The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi (Sura 43:61) during His Second Coming--were/are God's Messengers. The inserted parenthetical reference above is an addition that is NOT supported by Scripture, and which is against The Law (Deut. 4:2, 12:32).

Sura 4:65. But no, by the Lord, they can have no (real) Faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son (Enoch 58:1; 60:11; 68:39):

Psalm 110:1 <A Psalm of David.> THE LORD "I AM" (Allah) said unto my Lord (The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi), Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Hopefully you can see from the referenced verses above why Allah in the Koran Commands us that we MUST read The Law and the Gospel (Sura 6:154-157) AND follow the guidance found therein (Sura 5:46-50), and NOT be in doubt of it reaching you (Sura 32:23).

Nowhere in the Koran does it say that Muhammed (pbuh) is going to return, nor does it refer to him as THE Messenger. Muhammed (pbuh). It is The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi the Lord (Christ), Who is going to return and Who is THE Messenger, exactly as it states throughout Scripture.

That is why Sura 4:65 is worded the way that it is, and why anyone who does not follow the true teachings of THE Messenger/The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi is NOT a true believer.

Just as We have sent among you A messenger from yourselves reciting to you Our verses and purifying you and teaching you the Book and wisdom and teaching you that which you did not know. [Qur’an 2:151]

Note well: "A messenger" (referring to Muhammed, who was from among the Arabs); it does NOT say "THE Messenger" (emphasis added to your quoted verse on the "A").

He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah; but those who turn away – We have not sent you over them as a guardian. [Qur’an 4:80]

And when it is said to them, “Come to what Allah has revealed and to the Messenger,” you see the hypocrites turning away from you in aversion. [Qur’an 4:61]

Which is why every REAL Muslim (believer) MUST obey Christ, THE Messenger, as the Koran instructs us to do

Once again examples that I have mentioned to yourself and others before:

The Quran does not show us how to perform the hajj rituals the Prophet did.

Please stop and think about what you're saying. The hajj isn't in the Koran FOR A GOOD REASON.

The true hajj is, and always has been, to JERUSALEM, where everyone was taught The Law, which is THE Criterion for determining right from wrong (Sura 2:53, Sura 3:3, Sura 5:47, Sura 21:48).

There is no reference in the Holy Koran to the city of Mecca by name nor by implication. ALL references, in the Holy Koran, to the City of Peace refer to Jerusalem NOT to Mecca. The word Mecca does not mean the City of Peace, the word Jerusalem DOES mean City of Peace in Hebrew.

Sura 2:125 states that the "station of Abraham" (where Abraham offered Isaac as a sacrifice to God): is a place where one can "Prostrate themselves therein" - the Temple site in Jerusalem (on Mt. Moriah - 2 Chronicles 3:1 - built by Solomon bin David - Sura 27:16).

People can NOT prostrate themselves inside the Kaba in Mecca. It is a black rock not a Temple or House of God and a rock is solid. It is impossible to prostrate oneself inside it. So this statement can NOT possibly refer to Mecca. It refers to Mt. Moriah in Jeru-salem (the City of Peace).

Sura 2:126 And remember Abraham (who was a Hebrew - NOT Jewish) said: "My Lord, make this a City (Jeru) of Peace (salem) - Jeru-salem means "City of Peace".

This alone should be enough to make every real Muslim question why they're being fed a bunch of lies by their so-called imams, and prompt them to look further into who wrote the Hadith and why it contradicts both the Koran and itself so many times. The Hadith was certainly NOT written by Muhammed (pbuh), nor did any of its authors personally know Muhammed (pbuh), because the Hadith wasn't written until 250-300 years after Muhammed (pbuh) passed away.

So the Prophet (pbuh) didn't give us the Hadith. Roman Catholic Meccans did.

The Quran does not tell us that there are 5 daily prayers the Prophet peace be upon him did.

The Koran doesn't tell us to pray 5 times daily (and neither did the Prophet) FOR A GOOD REASON; we should be praying to Father (Allah) INCESSANTLY and IN PRIVATE. Why would anyone not want to get Father's (Allah's) Counsel with every thought/decision, word and action?

1 Thessalonians 5:17 PRAY WITHOUT CEASING.

Sura 7:55. Call on your Lord with HUMILITY and in PRIVATE (Enoch 56:5; Matt. 6:6): for "I AM" loveth not those who trespass beyond bounds.

Why, when Allah has COMMANDED that seek Him in private, do the adherents of Islam go to a mosque and pray in public? Is it not obvious that is trespassing beyond bounds? And what does the Koran say about going to mosques?

Sura 9:107. And there are those who put up mosques (churches; synagogues; etc.), by way of mischief and BETRAYAL - to disunite the Believers - and in preparation for one who warred against "I AM" (Revelation 12:7) and His Messenger aforetime. They will indeed swear that their intention is nothing but good; but "I AM" doth declare that they are certainly LIARS.

Same as The Messenger/Teacher (Christ)) stated:

Matthew 6:5-13
6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt NOT be as the hypocrites [ARE]: for they love to pray standing in the churches (synagogues, mosques, etc.) and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward (they have been seen by men, but God will not answer them).
6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and WHEN THOU HAST SHUT THY DOOR, pray to thy Father in private (Enoch 56:5; Sura 7:55); and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly (by answering you).
6:7 But when ye pray, use NOT vain repetitions, as the heathen [DO]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
6:8 Be NOT ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, BEFORE ye ask Him.
6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy name.
6:10 Thy Kingdom come. Thy Will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.
6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
6:12 And forgive us our debts and trespasses (if we truly repent), as we forgive our debtors and those who trespass against us (if they truly repent).
6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For Thine is The Kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

The Quran does not teach us the classifications of wealth for Zakah (poor due) among other things. i.e below:
Examples of verses that require the explanation from ahadith:

“We find (mention of) the prayer of the resident and the prayer in a state of fear in the Qur’an, but we do not find any mention of the prayer of the traveler. Abdullah said to him: ‘Allah sent Muhammad (pbuh) to us, and we did not know anything, rather we do what we saw Muhammad (pbuh) doing.” (Reported by Ibn Majah, Ibn Qayyim said it is authentic)

Except NONE of the people who wrote that EVER saw Muhammed (pbuh) pray, nor did they know him. And again, what isn't in the Koran is not in the Koran FOR A GOOD REASON. That's why the Koran itself directs us to read both The Law (Old Covenant) and the Gospel (New Covenant). Where in the Koran does it instruct us to read the Hadith? NOWHERE.

This is part of Father's perfect economic policy found in The Law which, IF followed, WOULD END POVERTY:

Deuteronomy 15:1-4
15:1 At the end of [every] seven years thou shalt make a release.
15:2 And this [is] the manner of the release: Every creditor that lendeth [ought] unto his neighbour shall release [it]; he shall not exact [it] of his neighbour, or of his brother; because it is called the "I AM"'s release.
15:3 Of a Gentile (someone who is not an Israelite) thou mayest exact [it again]: but [that] which is thine with thy brother thine hand shall release;
15:4 TO THE END THAT THERE BE NO POOR AMONG YOU; for the "I AM" shall greatly bless thee in the land which the "I AM" thy God giveth thee [for] an inheritance to possess it:

There is also a once in a lifetime reset (every 50th year) referred to as the "Jubilee", where anyone who has had to sell their ancestral lands has them returned to them (Lev. 25).

And this is what The Messenger/Teacher stated about doing alms/helping others:

Matthew 6:1-4
6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen by them: otherwise ye have NO reward from your Father which is in heaven.
6:2 Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do NOT sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites DO in the churches (synagogues, mosques, etc.) and in the streets, that they may have glory from MEN. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret Himself shall reward thee openly.

Here is another example of the fact that you only have half the story when you reject authentic and sound ahadith look at this verse:

"When did this verse come down? What disaster is this verse talking about? What was struck twice as great?"

Another verse:

What two armies? And on what day? What happened that day exactly? Where is this information in the Qur’an? It isn’t there but it is in hadiths.

Again, there is a GOOD REASON there isn't more information in the Koran about this. It either isn't needed, or it's directing the reader to search for the answer in The Law and/or the Gospel. Again, NOWHERE does the Koran instruct anyone to read the Hadith by direct reference or inference.

Please look again at this passage, and see for yourself that the passage is not referring to a specific battle or a specific day; rather it is instructing us on how to look beyond triumph and disaster to see it was a TEST, so that we may learn the lesson given to us.

Sura 3:165-166
3:165. What! When a single disaster smites you, although ye smote (your enemies) with one twice as great, do ye say?- "Whence is this?" Say (to them): "It is from yourselves: for God hath power over all things."
3:166. What ye suffered on the day the two armies met, was with the leave of God, in order that He might test the Believers,-

Excerpt from "IF" by Rudyard Kipling:-

"IF you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;"

We can often learn just as much, if not more, from our failures as we do from our successes. But that requires us to first acknowledge that Father is testing us, and then to humbly ask to be taught the lesson or "moral of the story".

Another example:


What is Allah speaking about here? What is the Day of Hunayn and its victory? What exactly happened on that day? You cannot provide any of these details from the Qur’an.

Last example:


Those who disbelieved had driven him out of where? What cave were they in and how did they get there? Who was his companion in the cave? None of this information is provided in the Qur’an but is available in hadiths!"

These examples are for all groups that reject ahadith as a source of legislation not just your group.

SOURCE for above examples and for more info on this topic:

Rejecting Hadiths: The Fitnah of the Quranists - The Thinking Muslim

Subscribe There are some “Muslims” in our times who follow a recent new movement (19th-20th century) which rejects hadiths, hence, deviating from the path of mainstream Islam. They pose and comment on many issues related to Islam from their viewpoint and reject many fundamental aspects of our...

thethinkingmuslim.com

Thank-you, but NONE of these examples require the Hadith. The battles of Hunayn, and of Medina, are a matter of historical record. And again, NOWHERE in the Koran does it instruct us to seek out further explanation in the Hadith, either directly or by inference. The Koran does however explicitly state in no less than two dozen places to seek Guidance and Instruction in The Law and the Gospel.

Suras 2:53, 2:89-93, 3:1-3, 3:48-50, 4:54, 5:46-50, 6:91-92, 6:154-157, 7:157, 9:111, 11:17, 17:2-4, 21:48, 23:20, 23:49, 25:35, 28:1-3, 32:23, 35:25-32, 37:117, 40:53, 40:70, 41:45, 42:14-17, 45:16, 46:12, 46:30, 48:29, 53:36-47, 57:25-29, 61:6, 78:2

May the Creator guide you to that which is better. Ameen.

Thank-you. Likewise.

 

[DesertRose]

Yes, but who is THE Messenger? ALL of God's Prophets that came before Muhammed (peace be upon him), AND the One that comes AFTER--Who is The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi (Sura 43:61) during His Second Coming--were/are God's Messengers. The inserted parenthetical reference above is an addition that is NOT supported by Scripture, and which is against The Law (Deut. 4:2, 12:32).

On whose authority are you claiming that God is addressing all the messengers?
What Quranic studies are you following besides the interpretation of the Quran in English.
The mahdi is not Christ the Messiah they are different personalities!

“… and We have also sent down to you (O Muhammad) the reminder and the advice (the Qur’aan), that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them and that they may give thought.” [al-Nahl 16:44]

You want the Quran without the explanations of the Prophet peace be upon him, and a religion without the rites and explanations of the rites that were sent down! Seriously you do not make sense!

The inserted parenthetical reference above is an addition that is NOT supported by Scripture, and which is against The Law (Deut. 4:2, 12:32).

Sura 4:65. But no, by the Lord, they can have no (real) Faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son (Enoch 58:1; 60:11; 68:39):

Psalm 110:1 <A Psalm of David.> THE LORD "I AM" (Allah) said unto my Lord (The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi), Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

These passages mean nothing to me, the bible you have today is not the injeel sent by God. Nor the Tawraat or Torah sent by God!
Here is why!

Dr. Jamal Badawi: Quran's View on Bible and Torah

Dr. Jamal Badawi discusses Quran's view on Bible & Torah. Quran confirms original revelations but not Bible/New Testament as they exist today.

www.whyislam.org

Note well: "A messenger" (referring to Muhammed, who was from among the Arabs); it does NOT say "THE Messenger" (emphasis added to your quoted verse on the "A").

Note well the Quran is in Arabic so your USAGE OF ENGLISH ARTICLES mean naught! The English is just the interpretation of the meaning.
“… and whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it…” [al-Hashr 59:7]

Please stop and think about what you're saying. The hajj isn't in the Koran FOR A GOOD REASON.

What are you speaking about? The Hajj is in the Quran but how we perform the rites is in the methodology of the Prophet peace be upon him. Moreover, the hajj is a pillar of Islam practiced from the time of the Prophet and with the Prophet peace be upon him. Moreover, the Prophet peace be upon him made his farewell sermon after performing Hajj when he was at mount Arafat! After Hajj.
This sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul-Hijjah, 10 A.H. (632 CE) in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat in Makkah. It was the occasion of the annual rites of Hajj (the pilgrimage). It is also known as the Farewell Pilgrimage.

Here is the Quran telling you to do Hajj!
And [mention] when We made the House a place of return for the people and [a place of] security. And take, [O believers], from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], "Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those who are staying [there] for worship and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer]." (2:125)

Indeed, as-Safa and al-Marwah are among the symbols of Allah. So whoever makes Hajj to the House or performs 'umrah - there is no blame upon him for walking between them. And whoever volunteers good - then indeed, Allah is appreciative and Knowing. (2:158)

They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the new moons. Say, "They are measurements of time for the people and for Hajj." And it is not righteousness to enter houses from the back, but righteousness is [in] one who fears Allah. And enter houses from their doors. And fear Allah that you may succeed. (2:189)

And complete the Hajj and Umrah for Allah. But if you are prevented, then [offer] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And do not shave your heads until the sacrificial animal has reached its place of slaughter. And whoever among you is ill or has an ailment of the head [making shaving necessary must offer] a ransom of fasting [three days] or charity or sacrifice. And when you are secure, then whoever performs 'umrah [during the Hajj months] followed by Hajj [offers] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And whoever cannot find [or afford such an animal] - then a fast of three days during Hajj and of seven when you have returned [home]. Those are ten complete [days]. This is for those whose family is not in the area of al-Masjid al-Haram. And fear Allah and know that Allah is severe in penalty. (2:196)

Hajj is [during] well-known months, so whoever has made Hajj obligatory upon himself therein [by entering the state of ihram], there is [to be for him] no sexual relations and no disobedience and no disputing during Hajj. And whatever good you do - Allah knows it. And take provisions, but indeed, the best provision is fear of Allah. And fear Me, O you of understanding. (2:197)

There is no blame upon you for seeking bounty from your Lord [during Hajj]. But when you depart from 'Arafat, remember Allah at al- Mash'ar al-Haram. And remember Him, as He has guided you, for indeed, you were before that among those astray. (2:198)

Then depart from the place from where [all] the people depart and ask forgiveness of Allah. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. (2:200)

And when you have completed your rites, remember Allah like your [previous] remembrance of your fathers or with [much] greater remembrance. And among the people is he who says, "Our Lord, give us in this world," and he will have in the Hereafter no share. (2:200)

But among them is he who says, "Our Lord, give us in this world [that which is] good and in the Hereafter [that which is] good and protect us from the punishment of the Fire." (2:201)

Do you comprehend that Allah actually mentions Arafat and Al-haram not Jerusalem In the Quran!

he Koran doesn't tell us to pray 5 times daily (and neither did the Prophet) FOR A GOOD REASON;

Are you sure about that?
‘… The prayer is enjoined on the believers at fixed times [mawqootan].’ [al-Nisa’ 4:103]

‘So glorify Allaah when you come up to the evening’ is maghrib and ‘isha’; ‘and when you enter the morning’ is fajr; ‘in the afternoon’ is ‘asr; and ‘the time when the day begins to decline’ is zuhr.”
… and in some hours of the night…” [Hood 11:114]
“Perform al-Salaah from mid-day till the darkness of the night and recite the Qur’aan in the early dawn…” [al-Isra’ 17:78].

There are specified times to do prayer and more importantly the Prophet peace be upon him performed hajj, spoke about it and prayed in congregation. If you wish to take the account of Jesus's life from eye witnesses as given in the bible then I will call you a hypocrite for discounting the eye witness accounts and narrations from the companions of the Prophet in the hadith literature. The hadith have a science upholding them that is more rigorous then the bible! We have a matn which is the text of the hadith, and an isnad a chain of transmission. Guess what the bible does not have a chain of transmission! The gospel you have today is hadith without the chain so it is second hand or third hand or fourth hand information the evidence would not uphold in a court of law for evidence!

That's why the Koran itself directs us to read both The Law (Old Covenant) and the Gospel (New Covenant).

No!
“So because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard. They change the words from their (right) places and have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them. And you will not cease to discover deceit in them, except a few of them. But forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds). Verily, Allaah loves al-Muhsineen (good-doers).” [al-Maa’idah 5:13]

They are guilty with respect to what we have in this day in the bible something that is different from what Allah sent down in the original injeel and Tawraat. They are guilty of:

1. Changing
2. Omitting
3. Adding things and attributing to Allaah words that He did not say
4. Misinterpreting the words of Allaah.

Muslim Christian Debate: "Is the Bible the inspired Word Of God?" Dr James v Dr Shabir

TheDeenShow - Dr Jerald Dirks - Amazing Facts About The Bible With Former Christian

Our beloved Prophet peace be upon him said pray as you see me pray and we will follow the Quran and his methodology through the authentic and sound ahadith.
May Allah guide to follow the straight way!!

See you on a momentous day:
“The Day whereon neither wealth nor sons will avail,
Except him who brings to Allaah a clean heart [clean from Shirk (polytheism) and Nifaaq (hypocrisy)]”
[al-Shu’araa’ 26:88)

Praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds

 

[A Freeman]

On whose authority are you claiming that God is addressing all the messengers?

Please calm down and read exactly what was shared with you. ALL of the God's Prophets are His Messengers. But the references in the Koran to THE Messenger are referring to The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi, NOT to Muhammed, peace be upon him.

What Quranic studies are you following besides the interpretation of the Quran in English.
The mahdi is not Christ the Messiah they are different personalities!

The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi is the Firstborn Son of God, just as our Creator/YHWH/the "I AM"/Allah is the One TRUE God.

“… and We have also sent down to you (O Muhammad) the reminder and the advice (the Qur’aan), that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them and that they may give thought.” [al-Nahl 16:44]

You want the Quran without the explanations of the Prophet peace be upon him, and a religion without the rites and explanations of the rites that were sent down! Seriously you do not make sense!

What religion do you think Allah is? Do you think Allah's work is somehow incomplete without made-up religious dogma, rites and rituals? Shouldn't we be doing as Allah COMMANDED us to do, instead of what corporate religious leaders tell us to do?

Again, where does it say anywhere in the Koran that one must read the Hadith to understand it? The clear explanation is given in Allah's Message in the Koran, NOT in the made-up Hadiths. And the Koran clearly states no less than two dozen times that we MUST read The Law and the Gospel.

Unfortunately, infidels/unbelievers never do what God Commands us to do.

These passages mean nothing to me, the bible you have today is not the injeel sent by God.

Nor the Tawraat or Torah sent by God!
Here is why!

Dr. Jamal Badawi: Quran's View on Bible and Torah

Dr. Jamal Badawi discusses Quran's view on Bible & Torah. Quran confirms original revelations but not Bible/New Testament as they exist today.

www.whyislam.org

Why would you believe such obvious lies? Believe Allah instead.

Do you really believe the Koran would instruct us to read both The Law and the Gospel if they didn't exist in the Bible today? You are doing the same thing the "Christians" do by rejecting the Koran, and apparently don't see the hypocrisy!

Sura 32:23. We did indeed aforetime give The Book (The Torah) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel.

Note well the Quran is in Arabic so your USAGE OF ENGLISH ARTICLES mean naught! The English is just the interpretation of the meaning.
“… and whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it…” [al-Hashr 59:7]

THE Messenger lived most of His time here in ENGLAND, both in the body of Jesus 2000 years ago and during His Second Coming as well. The Koran is known as the Gospel of UNITY, which is what it was meant to be, but instead, the "Muslims" have done the same things as every other organized religion does: they've divided it into lots of sects, and then isolated themselves from the rest of the world, turning many against them with fanaticism.

No one needs to be fluent in Arabic to understand God's Message in the Koran; just as no one needs to be fluent in Yiddish to understand the Old Covenant nor Greek or Latin to understand the New Covenant. God has seen to it that right now, in the Last Days, we all have access to His Message. So your feeble attempt to dismiss God's Message because it isn't being presented in Arabic on this forum, is both irrational as well as shameful. Please don't do that. It seems out of character for you.

What are you speaking about? The Hajj is in the Quran but how we perform the rites is in the methodology of the Prophet peace be upon him.

You knew, or should have known, we were talking about the rituals, because you were the one who brought them up. Obviously the reply wasn't speaking about the hajj itself or there would have been no reason to qualify that the true hajj is to Jerusalem. Please see an excerpt from that reply again below.

The true hajj is, and always has been, to JERUSALEM, where everyone was taught The Law, which is THE Criterion for determining right from wrong (Sura 2:53, Sura 3:3, Sura 5:47, Sura 21:48).

There is no reference in the Holy Koran to the city of Mecca by name nor by implication. ALL references, in the Holy Koran, to the City of Peace refer to Jerusalem NOT to Mecca. The word Mecca does not mean the City of Peace, the word Jerusalem DOES mean City of Peace in Hebrew.

No one needs to perform any rites or rituals, so again, there's no need for Hadith, which is why there is no reference to it in the Koran.

Moreover, the hajj is a pillar of Islam practiced from the time of the Prophet and with the Prophet peace be upon him. Moreover, the Prophet peace be upon him made his farewell sermon after performing Hajj when he was at mount Arafat! After Hajj.
This sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul-Hijjah, 10 A.H. (632 CE) in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat in Makkah. It was the occasion of the annual rites of Hajj (the pilgrimage). It is also known as the Farewell Pilgrimage.

Here is the Quran telling you to do Hajj!
And [mention] when We made the House a place of return for the people and [a place of] security. And take, [O believers], from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], "Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those who are staying [there] for worship and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer]." (2:125)

Indeed, as-Safa and al-Marwah are among the symbols of Allah. So whoever makes Hajj to the House or performs 'umrah - there is no blame upon him for walking between them. And whoever volunteers good - then indeed, Allah is appreciative and Knowing. (2:158)

They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the new moons. Say, "They are measurements of time for the people and for Hajj." And it is not righteousness to enter houses from the back, but righteousness is [in] one who fears Allah. And enter houses from their doors. And fear Allah that you may succeed. (2:189)

And complete the Hajj and Umrah for Allah. But if you are prevented, then [offer] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And do not shave your heads until the sacrificial animal has reached its place of slaughter. And whoever among you is ill or has an ailment of the head [making shaving necessary must offer] a ransom of fasting [three days] or charity or sacrifice. And when you are secure, then whoever performs 'umrah [during the Hajj months] followed by Hajj [offers] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And whoever cannot find [or afford such an animal] - then a fast of three days during Hajj and of seven when you have returned [home]. Those are ten complete [days]. This is for those whose family is not in the area of al-Masjid al-Haram. And fear Allah and know that Allah is severe in penalty. (2:196)

Hajj is [during] well-known months, so whoever has made Hajj obligatory upon himself therein [by entering the state of ihram], there is [to be for him] no sexual relations and no disobedience and no disputing during Hajj. And whatever good you do - Allah knows it. And take provisions, but indeed, the best provision is fear of Allah. And fear Me, O you of understanding. (2:197)

There is no blame upon you for seeking bounty from your Lord [during Hajj]. But when you depart from 'Arafat, remember Allah at al- Mash'ar al-Haram. And remember Him, as He has guided you, for indeed, you were before that among those astray. (2:198)

Then depart from the place from where [all] the people depart and ask forgiveness of Allah. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. (2:200)

And when you have completed your rites, remember Allah like your [previous] remembrance of your fathers or with [much] greater remembrance. And among the people is he who says, "Our Lord, give us in this world," and he will have in the Hereafter no share. (2:200)

But among them is he who says, "Our Lord, give us in this world [that which is] good and in the Hereafter [that which is] good and protect us from the punishment of the Fire." (2:201)

As above please. What was being referred to was not the hajj itself, but the pagan rites and rituals associated with it that have "Muslims" making their pilgrimage to pagan Mecca instead of to Jerusalem, as they should.

Do you comprehend that Allah actually mentions Arafat and Al-haram not Jerusalem In the Quran!

Do you comprehend that the Koran has been tampered with by the same evil Meccans who wrote the Hadith?

There is no reference in the Holy Koran to the city of Mecca by name nor by implication. ALL references, in the Holy Koran, to the City of Peace refer to Jerusalem NOT to Mecca. The word Mecca does not mean the City of Peace, the word Jerusalem DOES mean City of Peace in Hebrew.

Ishmael's mother, who was called Hagar, was an Egyptian and was the hand-maiden (servant) of Sarah who was Abraham's first and legitimate wife.

The well of Beer-lahai-roi, where Hagar went whilst pregnant with Ishmael when she ran away the first time, is between Kadesh-Barnea and Bered (South of Beersheba) on the route to Egypt, her home-land.

Sarah sent Hagar away with Ishmael and she naturally went towards Egypt her home-land NOT to Mecca. They went to Beer-sheba in Paran on the edge of the Negev desert, as is stated by God in the Book of Genesis that God gave to Moses.

On both occasions when Hagar left Abraham she went towards Egypt her home-land, which is quite a natural thing to do.

Hagar found Ishmael an Egyptian wife. They did not go to or live in Mecca. Mecca is more than 1000 miles from Mt. Moriah across desert and much too far away for Ishmael to hear of Abraham's death and be able to return in time to assist Isaac with Abraham's burial (Genesis 25:9).

The story about Mecca was made up by the Meccans to advertise and promote Mecca (in their advertising brochure - the Hadith) and is a complete fabrication. It has NOTHING to do with the Holy Koran. The Hadith contradicts God's Koran.

If people read the Bible they would know that they have to make the Pilgrimage (Haj) to Jerusalem not to Mecca and the Meccans would lose all the money they make from the Pilgrims.

The Meccans then had to discredit the Bible, to stop people from reading it and finding out the Truth, so they (Khadijah's cousin Waraquah according to the Vatican's archives) changed the name Isaac for the name Ishmael in Sura 2:125 and 2:127 and claim that the king James Bible is not the True Bible and that the True Bible no longer exists, so no-one can read it. All of which is a LIE and evil Meccan propaganda. Now people read the Hadith and its version of the Koran, instead of reading the Koran itself.

The Hadith has made it impossible for Moslems to understand the Koran's true meaning and to read the Bible and fulfill God's Covenant as God commands them to do in the Koran - Suras 16:91 and 5:8 and that is exactly what the Meccans wanted.

Mecca was an evil place when Mohammed Mustafa was born and the Meccans drove him and the TRUE KORAN out because it was about Jerusalem and would have ruined their pilgrimage-business to their black rock and idol-worship.

After Mohammed's death the Meccans changed the Koran and betrayed him and God.

Mecca has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Abraham; Ishmael; Isaac or God.

God tells people repeatedly in the Koran to read the Bible e.g. Sura 6:154-157). The Meccans then claim that the Almighty God has allowed the Book, that He commands people to read, to have been lost forever. That is not logical and is an insult to God.

Are you sure about that?

Yes.

‘… The prayer is enjoined on the believers at fixed times [mawqootan].’ [al-Nisa’ 4:103]

‘So glorify Allaah when you come up to the evening’ is maghrib and ‘isha’; ‘and when you enter the morning’ is fajr; ‘in the afternoon’ is ‘asr; and ‘the time when the day begins to decline’ is zuhr.”
… and in some hours of the night…” [Hood 11:114]
“Perform al-Salaah from mid-day till the darkness of the night and recite the Qur’aan in the early dawn…” [al-Isra’ 17:78].

There are specified times to do prayer and more importantly the Prophet peace be upon him performed hajj, spoke about it and prayed in congregation. If you wish to take the account of Jesus's life from eye witnesses as given in the bible then I will call you a hypocrite for discounting the eye witness accounts and narrations from the companions of the Prophet in the hadith literature. The hadith have a science upholding them that is more rigorous then the bible! We have a matn which is the text of the hadith, and an isnad a chain of transmission. Guess what the bible does not have a chain of transmission! The gospel you have today is hadith without the chain so it is second hand or third hand or fourth hand information the evidence would not uphold in a court of law for evidence!

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Can we trust the New Testament as a historical document?

Yes, we can trust the New Testament as a historical document. History, archaeology, and manuscript transmission all affirm the New Testament.

carm.org

No!
“So because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard. They change the words from their (right) places and have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them. And you will not cease to discover deceit in them, except a few of them. But forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds). Verily, Allaah loves al-Muhsineen (good-doers).” [al-Maa’idah 5:13]

Wrong. Again, there are at least two dozen references in the Koran instructing us to read The Law and the Gospel. Did you bother to look them up before denying them please?

Suras 2:53, 2:89-93, 3:1-3, 3:48-50, 4:54, 5:46-50, 6:91-92, 6:154-157, 7:157, 9:111, 11:17, 17:2-4, 21:48, 23:20, 23:49, 25:35, 28:1-3, 32:23, 35:25-32, 37:117, 40:53, 40:70, 41:45, 42:14-17, 45:16, 46:12, 46:30, 48:29, 53:36-47, 57:25-29, 61:6, 78:2

Examples:

Sura 6:154-157
6:154. Moreover, We gave Moses the Book (Torah), COMPLETING (Our favour) to those who would do right, and explaining ALL things IN DETAIL,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY, that they might believe in the meeting with their Lord.
6:155. And this (Torah) is a Book which We have revealed as a BLESSING: so follow it and be righteous, that YE may receive mercy (Sura 32:23):
6:156. Lest YE should say: "The Book (Torah) was sent down to two Peoples before us, and for our part, we remained unacquainted with all that they learned by careful study:"
6:157. Or lest YE should say: "If the Book (Torah) had only been sent down to US, we should have FOLLOWED its guidance BETTER than they (Sura 32:23)." Now then hath come unto YOU a clear (Sign) from your Lord,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY: then who could do MORE WRONG than one who rejecteth "I AM"'s Signs (and Torah - Bible), and turneth away therefrom? In good time shall We requite those who turn away from Our Signs, with a dreadful penalty, for their turning away.

Sura 9:111. "I AM" hath purchased from the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Bliss): they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in Truth, through The Law (Torah), the Gospel (New Testament/Covenant), and the Koran: and who is more faithful to His Covenant (in the Bible) than "I AM"? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded (to fulfill The Covenant of "I AM" written in the Bible): that is the achievement supreme.

Further...

King of kings' Bible - Sura 5:13. "I AM" did aforetime make The Covenant with the Children of Jacob-Israel, and We appointed twelve captains among them (his twelve sons). And "I AM" said: "I am with you: only if ye establish constant prayer; practise regular charity; believe My Apostles; honour and assist them; and loan to "I AM" a beautiful loan; then verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to Gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from The Way of Rectitude."

Of course the True Bible still exists as confirmed by God Himself in His Holy Koran (Sura 32:23) and the most accurate translation of The Bible in print is still the Authorised king James Bible in the old English, as confirmed by the "Dead Sea Scroll" of the Book of Isaiah (referred to in Sura 52:2-3) which in no way differs from the Book of Isaiah in the king James Bible.

Therefore the "Muslims" are calling God a liar, which is a satanic thing to do. Satan called God a liar in the Garden of Eden and God condemned Adam and Eve for believing Satan's lies. These satanic lies are now being continued by the "Muslims" when they contradict God by saying that the True Bible no longer exists, after God has told us in His Holy Koran - Sura 32:23 that:-

"We did indeed aforetime give the Book (Torah) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE - the readers of this Koran - moslems): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel."

They are guilty with respect to what we have in this day in the bible something that is different from what Allah sent down in the original injeel and Tawraat. They are guilty of:

1. Changing
2. Omitting
3. Adding things and attributing to Allaah words that He did not say
4. Misinterpreting the words of Allaah.

Which the Meccans have likewise done with the Koran, and which the Bible -- in particular the Book of Enoch -- provides us with error correction instructions, so we can both recognize and correct the Scriptures when idiots fool with it. The Scriptures always provide at least two or three witnesses and always agree with each other.

A couple of the more obvious edits the Meccans did may be found in Sura 2:125 and Sura 2:127, where the Meccans changed the name Isaac to Ishmael. How can we be certain of that? Because those two verses clearly disagree with the rest of the Koran and the accounts of Isaac and Ishmael in the Bible as well.

THE GOOD NEWS OF A BOY
(PROOF that Abraham offered ISAAC)

Sura 37:101 And We gave Abraham the "good news" of a boy ready to suffer and forbear (through the angel messengers We sent to him).

Sura 37:102 Then, when the boy reached the age of serious work with him Abraham said, "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice."

Sura 37:112 And We gave him the "good news" of Isaac - a prophet - one of the righteous (through the angel messengers We sent to him).

Sura 37:113 We blessed Abraham and Isaac.

Sura 6:84 And We gave Abraham Isaac and Jacob: all three We guided aright.

Sura 38:45-46 And commemorate Our servants Abraham, Isaac (not Ishmael), and Jacob, possessors of Power and Vision. Verily did We choose them for a special purpose - proclaiming the Message of the Hereafter. They were in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect and the good.

Sura 11:71 And We gave Abraham the glad tidings ("good news") of Isaac and after him Jacob / Israel (the son of Isaac).

Sura 15:54 "Good news" of a son.

Sura 51:28 Glad tidings ("good news") of a son (Isaac - "laughter" in Hebrew) and Sarah laughed being 90 years old (the word Isaac means laughter and because Sarah laughed the child was named "laughter" - Isaac in Hebrew).

We gave the "good news" means "news from God" via an angel messenger. No angel was ever sent to Abraham to announce the birth of Ishmael and this is born-out by all of the Holy Scriptures. He was born because of Sarai (Sarah) not because of God and was born to an Egyptian surrogate-mother, called Hagar.

All of the references of "good news" refer to Isaac and not to Ishmael, proving that the Meccans changed the name Isaac for Ishmael in Sura 2:125 and 127.

However Ishmael was blessed by God, later, when Abraham, who loved him, asked God to let Ishmael live before God (Genesis 17:18-20).

Our beloved Prophet peace be upon him said pray as you see me pray and we will follow the Quran and his methodology through the authentic and sound ahadith.

It's delusional to think that the Hadith is authentic, because it contradicts the Koran.

May Allah guide to follow the straight way!!

See you on a momentous day:
“The Day whereon neither wealth nor sons will avail,
Except him who brings to Allaah a clean heart [clean from Shirk (polytheism) and Nifaaq (hypocrisy)]”
[al-Shu’araa’ 26:88)

Praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds

Amen. Praise be to God Who gave us the Old Covenant, New Covenant and the Koran.

 

[DesertRose]

In the world of Islam people do not argue about our belief system (aqeedah) well at least for the vast majority. Our differences are usually in methodology with some folks trying to get closer to God through worship that is not upon the method or way of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him..
The world you come from people have major differences in belief to the point that they say other denominations are not Christian so perhaps you think you can bring this mess to us but you can not. In Sha Allah.
Indeed, those who disbelieved and averted [people] from the path of Allah and opposed the Messenger after guidance had become clear to them - never will they harm Allah at all, and He will render worthless their deeds. 47:32
If you notice on here our brothers and sisters simply convey Islam and promote our truth according to our faith.

From what I have seen your specialty in this religious forum is contention and a patchwork belief system and your means are based on back and forth argumentation of what is meant by this or that scripture..

Once again I hope you repent and seek the Creator's guidance to the straight path. So good bye and to you your faith and to me mine.
And say, "Truth has come, and falsehood has departed. Indeed is falsehood, [by nature], ever bound to depart." Isra:81

 

[Infinityloop]

Now people read the Hadith and its version of the Koran, instead of reading the Koran itself.

If you were a Quranist (or any other derived term to refer to it), I would give you the credit of at least being consistent with your 'logic' but you're not.
You don't follow the "Quran itself", you follow the Old Testament, New Testament, Jewish Apocrypha and writings of Jahtruth.

Aside from this, why do you continue to misspell Qur'an as "Koran", as with Muslim as Moslem and Muhammad as Mohammed? that's old 17th century white western orientalist spelling that nobody uses except for bible-belt american Christians of a certain breed - it's just, strange, you spell it like that

Krishchiantity, Bybell, Joodeism, Tanark, Jiizes.

Mecca was an evil place when Mohammed Mustafa was born and the Meccans drove him and the TRUE KORAN out

Yeah, that part is true.

because it was about Jerusalem and would have ruined their pilgrimage-business to their black rock and idol-worship.

And that part is just false, idiotic, stupid, laughable.

God tells people repeatedly in the Koran to read the Bible e.g. Sura 6:154-157).

The Qur'an doesn't acknowledge the Bible and wouldn't, the Bible isn't from God, it is biographical writings of men trying to describe things that happened way before they were written. The Bible is like Seerah literature, except that it has no chain of transmission via Hadiths to back up it's claims to historicity.

As for Surah 6:154-157, you somehow missed Surah 6:91, which reads:

"And they do not assign to God the attributes due to Him when they say: 'God has not revealed anything to a mortal.'
Say: Who revealed the Book which Musa brought, a light and a guidance to men, which you make into scattered writings which you show while you conceal much? And you were taught what you did not know, (neither) you nor your fathers.
Say: "God", then leave them sporting in their vain discourses."

And as Surah 5:44-49 states:

"Surely We revealed the Taurat in which was guidance and light; with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to God) judged (matters) for those who were Jews, and the masters of Divine knowledge and the doctors, because they were required to guard (part) of the Book of God, and they were witnesses thereof; therefore fear not the people and fear Me, and do not take a small price for My communications; and whoever did not judge by what God revealed, those are they that are the unbelievers.
And We prescribed to them in it that life is for life, and eye for eye, and nose for nose, and ear for ear, and tooth for tooth, and (that there is) reprisal in wounds; but he who foregoes it, it shall be an expiation for him; and whoever did not judge by what God revealed, those are they that are the unjust.
And We sent after them in their footsteps Isa, son of Marium, verifying what was before him of the Taurat and We gave him the Injeel in which was guidance and light, and verifying what was before it of Taurat and a guidance and an admonition for those who guard (against evil).
And the followers of the Injeel should have judged by what God revealed in it; and whoever did not judge by what God revealed, those are they that are the transgressors.
And We have revealed to you the Book (Qur'an) with the truth, verifying what is before it of the Book and a guardian over it, therefore judge between them by what God has revealed, and do not follow their low desires (to turn away) from the truth that has come to you; for every one of you did We appoint a law and a way, and if God had pleased He would have made you (all) a single people, but that He might try you in what He gave you, therefore strive with one another to hasten to virtuous deeds; to Allah is your return, of all (of you), so He will let you know that in which you differed;
And that you should judge between them by what God has revealed, and do not follow their low desires, and be cautious of them, lest they seduce you from part of what God has revealed to you; but if they turn back, then know that God desires to afflict them on account of some of their faults; and most surely many of the people are transgressors."

The Meccans then claim that the Almighty God has allowed the Book, that He commands people to read, to have been lost forever. That is not logical and is an insult to God.

Ok, put on your thinking cap for a moment. Answer for me these questions directly:

1. Where is the book of Noah?
2. Where is the book of Abraham?
3. What language did Moses speak?
4. What happened to the book of John the Baptist?
5. What language did Jesus speak?

Can we trust the New Testament as a historical document?

Yes, we can trust the New Testament as a historical document. History, archaeology, and manuscript transmission all affirm the New Testament.

carm.org

Why is your reference Matt Slick and his Calvinist Apologetics site?

To be quoting him though just shows you've never done any study into the history of the New Testament. This is beside the point that the New Testament wasn't revealed to Jesus, it's "about" Jesus.

, 2:89-93, 3:1-3, 3:48-50, 4:54, 5:46-50, 6:91-92, 6:154-157, 7:157, 9:111, 11:17, 17:2-4, 21:48, 23:20, 23:49, 25:35, 28:1-3, 32:23, 35:25-32, 37:117, 40:53, 40:70, 41:45, 42:14-17, 45:16, 46:12, 46:30, 48:29, 53:36-47, 57:25-29, 61:6, 78:2

I don't think you've ever read any of those verses, and also if you had any respect for the Qur'an, then you wouldn't act like a Protestant and quote an isolated verse.

http://Of course the [U][URL='http://jahtruth.net/bibproof.htm']True Bible[/U]

still exists as confirmed by God Himself in His Holy Koran (Sura 32:23) and the most accurate translation of The Bible in print is still the Authorised king James Bible in the old English, as confirmed by the "Dead Sea Scroll" of the Book of Isaiah (referred to in Sura 52:2-3) which in no way differs from the Book of Isaiah in the king James Bible.

You're seriously telling me the KJV is the "authorized" version of the Bible? you're telling me this with a straight face and no smirk?

-- provides us with error correction instructions, so we can both recognize and correct the Scriptures when idiots fool with it. The Scriptures always provide at least two or three witnesses and always agree with each other.

The Book of Enoch? that's a weird thing to add into your argument after all this, and considering that it's not in your "authentic" KJV, lol.

 

[A Freeman]

The word "Muslim" (or "Moslem", if you prefer) is Arabic and means "believer".

If you are a Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Wahhabi, Salafi, Takfiri, or member of any other sect, Allah says you are NOT a Muslim, but are Kafir – Infidels/Unfaithful.

Sura 6:159. As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou must have nothing whatsoever to do with it, even in the least: their affair is with “I AM”: in the end He will tell them the truth of all that they did.

Sura 11:17. Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Moses (the Torah) before it,- a guide and a mercy? They believe therein but those of the Sects that reject it,- the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon: for it is the Truth from thy Lord: yet many among men do not believe!

Sura 23:52-53
23:52. And verily this Brotherhood of yours is a single Brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore fear Me (and no other).
23:53. But people have cut off their affair (of Unity), between them, into sects: each party rejoices in that which is with itself.

Sura 3:103-105
3:103. And hold fast, all together, by the rope which God (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude God’s favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the Pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth God make His Signs clear to you: that ye may be guided.
3:104. Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting all to that which is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: they are the ones to attain joy.
3:105. Be NOT like those who are divided amongst themselves and fall into disputations after receiving Clear Signs: for them is a dreadful Penalty,-

John 17:17-23
17:17 Sanctify them through Thy Truth: Thy Word is Truth.
17:18 As Thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the Truth.
17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe me through their word;
17:21 That they all may be one; as Thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in Thee, that they also may be one in Us: that the world may believe that Thou hast sent me.
17:22 And the glory which Thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as We are One:
17:23 I in them, and Thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that Thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as Thou hast loved me.

IF YOU BELIEVE THE LIES THAT ARE TAUGHT BY SAUDI-TRAINED SO-CALLED IMAMS REGARDING THE BIBLE, I.E. THAT THE TRUE BIBLE NO LONGER EXISTS, THEN YOU ARE CALLING ALLAH A LIAR/DEVIL AND ARE NOT A MUSLIM.

Sura 32:23. We did indeed aforetime give the Book (Torah) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel.

Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the [other] Apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

IF YOU PRAY PUBLICLY IN A MOSQUE, INSTEAD OF ALONE IN PRIVATE, ALLAH SAYS YOU ARE NOT A MUSLIM.

Sura 7:55. Call on your Lord with HUMILITY and in PRIVATE (Enoch 56:5; Matt. 6:6): for “I AM” loveth not those who trespass beyond bounds.

Matthew 6:5-6
6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt NOT be as the hypocrites [ARE]: for they love to pray standing in the churches and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and WHEN THOU HAST SHUT THY DOOR, pray to thy Father in private (Enoch 56:5; Sura 7:55); and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

THE WORD ISLAM MEANS “DOING THE WILL OF ALLAH/GOD”, AS ISSA/JESUS TEACHES.

Matthew 6:10 Thy Kingdom come. Thy Will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.

Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the [other] Apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Sura 3:64. Say: “O People of the Book (Bible)! come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but God; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, lords and patrons other than God.” If then they turn back, say ye: “Bear witness that we (at least) are “True in Faith” (bowing to God’s Will).

Sura 2:107. Knowest thou not that to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the Earth? And besides Him ye have neither patron nor helper.

If you repeat the same prayers, instead of asking Allah what He wants you to do 24/7/52, as Issa/Jesus teaches then Christ the Mahdi says you are NOT a Muslim.

Matthew 6:7-8
6:7 But when ye pray, use NOT vain repetitions, as the heathen [DO]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
6:8 Be NOT ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, BEFORE ye ask Him.

If you do not study and keep The Covenant in the Torah, as God commands you to do, Allah says you are NOT a Muslim.

Sura 16:91. Fulfill the Covenant of “I AM” (in the Bible) when ye have entered into it, and break not your oaths after ye have confirmed them; indeed ye have made “I AM” your guarantor; for “I AM” knoweth all that ye do; say and think.

If you do not study and live the Teachings of Issa/Jesus THE IMAM in the Injeel/New Testament, you are NOT a Muslim.

Sura 21:91. And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our Spirit, and We made her and her son a Sign for ALL peoples.

Sura 43:57-63
43:57. When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example, behold, thy people raise a clamour thereat (in ridicule)!
43:58. And they say, “Are our gods best, or he?” This they set forth to thee, only by way of disputation: yea, they are a contentious people.
43:59. He was no more than a servant (“I came not to do mine own will, but the Will of Him that sent me” – John 6:38): We granted Our favour (Christ) to him (Sura 4:171), and We made him the Example to the Children of Israel (John 14:6).
43:60. And if it were Our Will, We could make angels from amongst you, succeeding each other on the Earth.
43:61. And (Christ the Mahdi) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is The Straight Way.
43:62. Let not the Evil One hinder you: for he is to you an enemy avowed.
43:63. When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: “Now have I come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear “I AM” and obey me.

Sura 16:105. It is those who believe not in the Signs of “I AM”, that forge falsehood: it is they who lie!

John 14:6 Jesus/Issa saith unto him, I am The Way, the Truth, and the Life: NOT one man cometh unto the Father, EXCEPT by me.

Sura 3:3. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it and He sent down The Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the Criterion (of Judgment between right and wrong).

If you believe that the Koran is incomplete and needs the Hadiths and men to explain it to you, then you do not believe Allah and thus are not a Muslim.

Sura 41:3-4
41:3. A Book, whereof the verses are explained in detail;- a Koran in Arabic, for people who understand;-
41:4. Giving Good News and Warning: yet most of them turn away, and so they hear not.

Sura 43:2-3
43:2. By the Book that makes things clear,-
43:3. We have made it a Koran in Arabic, that ye may be able to understand (and learn Wisdom).

Sura 16:98-100
16:98. When thou dost read the Koran, seek “I AM”‘s protection from Satan the Rejected One.
16:99. No authority has he over those who believe and put their trust in their Lord.
16:100. His authority is only over those, who take him as patron and who join partners with “I AM”.*

*e.g. the man-made Hadiths

IT IS OBVIOUS FROM THE ABOVE THAT THERE ARE NO REAL MUSLIMS TODAY.

If you would like to learn how to become a real Muslim/Faithful then start by reading/studying and digesting “The Way home or face The Fire”.

Plato – “For a man to conquer himself is the first and noblest of all victories.” That is the first and most important Jihad.

He who conquers his “Self” is greater than he who conquers a thousand armies.

Before the world can change, men must change. If you want to change the world and make it a better place, start by changing yourself – crucify your “Self” daily, until it is dead (Matt. 10:38, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23, Gal. 2:20).

Please get it straight in your own minds that ALL organized religions are EVIL. They obviously divide us against each other, with all of their silly pagan rites and rituals that people take refuge in INSTEAD of taking refuge in God and His Word ONLY.

This message isn't dedicated to some vain attempt of self-justification or to argue one religion over another. GET RID OF THEM ALL (organized religions) AND UNITE IN ONE BROTHERHOOD TO DO ONLY GOD'S WILL, exactly as it says in the Old Covenant, New Covenant, and in the Koran/Quran.

Those who refuse, will NOT survive the Day of Judgment, but instead will taste The Fire, as we've been warned for thousands of years before the Koran/Quran was given to Muhammed/Muhammad by the Archangel Gabriel, who likewise gave Daniel the explanation for his visions of The coming of The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi and brought the Good News to virgin Mary about the child she would bear.

 

[A Freeman]

TRUTH: We are all spiritual Beings of Light, who are temporarily "locked" inside these human organic prison cells, in this maximum security prison reform school for the criminally insane.

Lucifer/Satan/Iblis/the devil/red dragon/serpent (Satan), who is the INVENTOR OF LIES and the destroyer, is the one who has conned us into believing "we are only human after all" which, coming from an incessant liar, is an obvious LIE.

Satan (the Opposer) has very successfully used his satanic divide and conquer strategy for thousands of years to con us into believing we are of this nationality or that, of this organized religion or that, of this political party or that, etc.

Organized religion has a 100% failure rate according to our Judge (The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi)!

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of Man which is from heaven.

STOP LISTENING TO SATAN! HE IS A LIAR AND A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING.

Not only are we not "Muslims", "Christians", "Jews", "Buddhists", etc., WE ARE NOT EVEN HUMAN and thus have no nationality, no cultural affiliations, nor any ties to ANYTHING that is of this world.

We have all been here many times, with the exception of Enoch (the first Prophet) who was "translated". Enoch walked WITH God, and thus was rewarded by being allowed to skip additional human lifetimes, to arrive at (translated to) Judgment Day, where we will all be judged according to our works by THE Judge: Christ.

Genesis 5:21-24
5:21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
5:22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
5:23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he [was] not; for God took him.

Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Enoch 59:9 His (Michael's) title was Dendayen (Judge)(John 5:22) in the East of The Garden (Gen. 3:24), where the Elect and the righteous dwell; where he received it from my ancestor, who was man, from Adam the first of men, whom the Lord of Spirits made (1 Cor. 15:45).

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son (Enoch 58:1; 60:11; 68:39):

Enoch 58:1 Prince Michael the Archangel (Dan. 10:21; ch. 20:5) condemned and then decreed that The Judgement shall fall on CHURCH and STATE (Eze. 13:1-9; Matt. 23; Rev. 17:14; 19:2; Sura 3:64).

Enoch 60:11 Who shall judge (Isa. 42:1-4) all the works of the holy, and in a Balance (Suras 7:8 & 42:17 & 6:154-157 & 57:25) shall he weigh their actions. And when He shall lift up His countenance to judge their secret ways by The Word (the Messiah/Christ/Mahdi - John 1:14; Sura 43:61) [acting] in the name of the Lord of Spirits (Matt. 28:18), and their progress in The Way of the Righteous Judgement of God Most High (John 5:22);

Enoch 68:39 He sat upon the Throne of His Glory; and the principal part of the Judgement was assigned to him, the Son of Man (the Messiah/Christ/Mahdi). Sinners shall disappear and perish from the face of the Earth, while those who seduced them shall be bound with chains for ever (2 Pet. 2:4).

From the third book of Revelation, which was wrongly removed by the churches so they could continue to promote their lucrative humanistic salvation brokerage business:-

Revelation 28:1-12
28:1 All these visions were made unto me, by the angels that were from the Father, that all may bear witness to The Word of God.
28:2 That all will know the Sign of the Last Days, when Him Who is, and Who was, and Who is to come will signify the prophecy.
28:3 It will be known in the time when all the peoples of the Earth will mourn, because of Him (Isa. 61:2; Zech. 12:10-11; Matt. 24:30).
28:4 But that they mourn the man and not the spirit [Being].
28:5 And seek not the Father through the Son, but the flesh re-incarnate. For the priests of the Earth will see the image of the beast and lead many into the wilderness.
28:6 Yet will your Father make many Signs (2 Esdras; Matt. 24), that all will bear witness to the Last Days, when all have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. And the Gates of Paradise will be opened and they will come in the power of Divine Love and live in bliss.
28:7 For did not Jesus the Christ become dead, and sprang to life again. And was not the Holy City laid waste and now lives once more. These things were made by the Father, and His mystery is the source of all Wisdom.
28:8 Be therefore faithful, even to the point of death, and He will give you the Crown of Life.
28:9 For the body will die and be as the earth was, whence it came, but the spirit will live and dwell in many cities and not know time.
28:10 For the body is mortal and will decay, but the spirit is eternal and knows not death.
28:11 All (but Enoch) will come (be reincarnated) upon the Earth a hundred, hundred times (Enoch 90:1; John 9:2), and still will the spirit be raised by the Father.
28:12 For the sign of the resurrection of the Son is the sign of the Life Eternal.

 

[Infinityloop]

The word "Muslim" (or "Moslem", if you prefer) is Arabic and means "believer".

No it doesn't, it means "someone who has submitted/someone who submits". The context is towards God not anything else.
āmanū is actually closer to "believer" and one of the most used words to refer to it, there are a lot of related derivatives of the same root, including yu'minūna.

If you are a Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Wahhabi, Salafi, Takfiri, or member of any other sect, Allah says you are NOT a Muslim, but are Kafir – Infidels/Unfaithful.

Sura 6:159. As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou must have nothing whatsoever to do with it, even in the least: their affair is with “I AM”: in the end He will tell them the truth of all that they did.

What about Jahtruth? what about Quranism?

I don't think you get the subtly of Surah 6:159.

You are also being a Tafiri right now.

Sura 11:17. Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Moses (the Torah) before it,- a guide and a mercy? They believe therein but those of the Sects that reject it,- the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon: for it is the Truth from thy Lord: yet many among men do not believe!

Notice how it says "the book of Moses" and not "the Five books about Moses"?

John 17:17-23
17:17 Sanctify them through Thy Truth: Thy Word is Truth.
17:18 As Thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the Truth.
17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe me through their word;
17:21 That they all may be one; as Thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in Thee, that they also may be one in Us: that the world may believe that Thou hast sent me.
17:22 And the glory which Thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as We are One:
17:23 I in them, and Thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that Thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as Thou hast loved me.

If you are to avoid being hypocritical then you have to avoid quoting books like John, which are not from God and are merely biographical texts written by men way long after they were claimed to happen, with zero chain of transmission, exaggeration and rampant contradictions.

IF YOU BELIEVE THE LIES THAT ARE TAUGHT BY SAUDI-TRAINED SO-CALLED IMAMS REGARDING THE BIBLE, I.E. THAT THE TRUE BIBLE NO LONGER EXISTS, THEN YOU ARE CALLING ALLAH A LIAR/DEVIL AND ARE NOT A MUSLIM.

The Qur'an doesn't mention the Bible, period.
Why are you mentioning Saudi Arabia? I don't think anybody here has mentioned them yet aside from you, nor do any normal Muslims support them.

What I've said about the Bible however though comes from actual study into the Bible, it's history, it's manuscripts and it's many problems. In regards to the concept of previous books though, it's clear from simply just reading the Bible, that it's not a revelation from God. It doesn't take a genius with nine masters degrees to notice this, just open to the beginning of any book in the Bible and you'll see quite clearly that it doesn't even claim to be from God, most books in the Bible are only claimed to be historical or biographical - some of the other books in the Bible though being poetry and letters.

Sura 32:23. We did indeed aforetime give the Book (Torah) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel.

Yes and you ignored my previous questions. What language did the ancient Israelites speak in Moses' time? how long ago did they live?
This is not speaking about the Jews and their books, this is speaking about Moses and the ancient Israelites.

Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the [other] Apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Yet you quote the book of Acts which is written by and for men, nothing to do with God.

IF YOU PRAY PUBLICLY IN A MOSQUE, INSTEAD OF ALONE IN PRIVATE, ALLAH SAYS YOU ARE NOT A MUSLIM.

Well actually the Qur'an says that you can pray to God anywhere. In the life of Prophet Muhammad (saw), this was definitely the case especially when they were journeying long distances and did not yet have many mosques around, they used to pray in nature. I like that idea more than in any building actually.
Go to a forest, go to a lake etc. Find qibla and then prostate before God in God's creation.

I wish that you weren't a Takfiri self-contradicting dogmatist because you seem incapable of perceiving beauty.

If you repeat the same prayers, instead of asking Allah what He wants you to do 24/7/52, as Issa/Jesus teaches then Christ the Mahdi says you are NOT a Muslim.

Mahdi is only in Hadith, I thought you said you rejected Hadith?

If you believe that the Koran is incomplete and needs the Hadiths and men to explain it to you, then you do not believe Allah and thus are not a Muslim.

And you believe that you not only need the Bible (writings of Men) to 'complete' it, but you also believe that you need "The Way Home Or Face The Fire" to complete it. Hypocrisy abounds.

 

[A Freeman]

No it doesn't, it means "someone who has submitted/someone who submits". The context is towards God not anything else.
āmanū is actually closer to "believer" and one of the most used words to refer to it, there are a lot of related derivatives of the same root, including yu'minūna.



What about Jahtruth? what about Quranism?

I don't think you get the subtly of Surah 6:159.

You are also being a Tafiri right now.



Notice how it says "the book of Moses" and not "the Five books about Moses"?



If you are to avoid being hypocritical then you have to avoid quoting books like John, which are not from God and are merely biographical texts written by men way long after they were claimed to happen, with zero chain of transmission, exaggeration and rampant contradictions.



The Qur'an doesn't mention the Bible, period.
Why are you mentioning Saudi Arabia? I don't think anybody here has mentioned them yet aside from you, nor do any normal Muslims support them.

What I've said about the Bible however though comes from actual study into the Bible, it's history, it's manuscripts and it's many problems. In regards to the concept of previous books though, it's clear from simply just reading the Bible, that it's not a revelation from God. It doesn't take a genius with nine masters degrees to notice this, just open to the beginning of any book in the Bible and you'll see quite clearly that it doesn't even claim to be from God, most books in the Bible are only claimed to be historical or biographical - some of the other books in the Bible though being poetry and letters.



Yes and you ignored my previous questions. What language did the ancient Israelites speak in Moses' time? how long ago did they live?
This is not speaking about the Jews and their books, this is speaking about Moses and the ancient Israelites.



Yet you quote the book of Acts which is written by and for men, nothing to do with God.



Well actually the Qur'an says that you can pray to God anywhere. In the life of Prophet Muhammad (saw), this was definitely the case especially when they were journeying long distances and did not yet have many mosques around, they used to pray in nature. I like that idea more than in any building actually.
Go to a forest, go to a lake etc. Find qibla and then prostate before God in God's creation.

I wish that you weren't a Takfiri self-contradicting dogmatist because you seem incapable of perceiving beauty.



Mahdi is only in Hadith, I thought you said you rejected Hadith?



And you believe that you not only need the Bible (writings of Men) to 'complete' it, but you also believe that you need "The Way Home Or Face The Fire" to complete it. Hypocrisy abounds.

The Way home or face The Fire is referred to in Scripture (Rev. 2:17, Rev. 10:7-10) and is yet another "sign of the times". The rest of what you've said are such blatant lies they don't merit a response. Shame on you for posting such nonsense.

 

[A Freeman]

For the benefit of every "Christian" and "Moslem" on this forum, please read the following passages in the Holy Quran where we are COMMANDED to read both The Law and the Gospel, found only in the Bible.

Isn't it time to stop giving in to Lucifer/Satan/Iblis/the devil, who created all of these organized religions to divide and conquer us, and instead UNITE to do God's Will, as we've been COMMANDED to do for thousands of years for our own mutual benefit?


Sura 2:53. And remember We gave Moses the Scripture and the Criterion (Between right and wrong [The Torah]): there was a chance for you to be guided aright.

Sura 2:89-93
2:89. And when there comes to them a Book from God, confirming what is with them,- although from of old they had prayed for victory against those without Faith,- when there comes to them that which they (should) have recognised, they refuse to believe it but the curse of God is on those without Faith.
2:90. Miserable is the price for which they have sold their souls, in that they deny (the revelation) which God has sent down, in insolent rejection that God, from His Grace, should send it to any of His servants that it pleases Him to [as is His Right]: thus have they drawn on themselves Wrath upon Wrath. And humiliating is the punishment of those who reject Faith.
2:91. When it is said to them, "Believe in what God hath sent down," they say, "We believe in what was sent down to us": yet they reject all besides, even if it be Truth confirming what is with them. Say: "Why then have ye slain the Prophets of God in times gone by, if ye did indeed believe?"
2:92. There came to you Moses with Clear (Signs) yet ye worshipped the Calf (even) after that, and ye did behave wrongfully.
2:93. And remember We took your Covenant and We raised above you (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai): (Saying): "Hold firmly to what We have given you, and hearken (to The Law)": they said: "We hear, and we disobey": and they had to drink into their hearts (of the taint) of the Calf because of their Faithlessness. Say: "Vile indeed are the behests of your Faith if ye have any faith!"

Sura 3:1-3
3:1. A. L. M. (Almighty. Loving. Merciful.)
3:2. Allah (God). There is no God but He,- the Living, the Self-Existing (YHWH - "I AM"), Eternal.
3:3. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it and He sent down The Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the Criterion (of Judgment between right and wrong).

Sura 3:48-50
3:48. "And God will teach him the Book (Torah) and Wisdom, The Law and the Gospel,
3:49. "And (appoint him) an Apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God's leave: and I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I enliven the dead, by God's leave and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;
3:50. "'(I have come to you), to affirm The Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear God, and obey me.

Sura 4:54. Or do they envy mankind for what God hath given them of His Bounty? But We had already given the people of Abraham the Book (Torah) and Wisdom, and conferred upon them a great kingdom.

Sura 5:46-50
5:46. But why do they come to thee for decision, when they have (their own) Law (the Torah) before them?- therein is the (plain) command of "I AM"; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not (really) People of Faith.
5:47. It was We Who revealed The Law (to Moses): therein is Guidance and Light. By its Standard (Criterion) have been judged the Jews, by the Prophets who bowed to "I AM"'s Will; the Rabbis and the Doctors of Law: for to them was entrusted the protection of "I AM"'s Book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My Signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the Light of) what "I AM" hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.
5:48. We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself (Matt. 5:44). And if any fail to judge by (the Light of) what "I AM" hath revealed, they are (no better than) wrong-doers (and are the accomplices of the wrong-doers and equally guilty).
5:49. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming The Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein is Guidance and Light, and confirmation of The Law that had come before him: a Guidance and a Warning to those who fear "I AM".
5:50. Let the People of the Gospel judge by what "I AM" hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the Light of) what "I AM" hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel (and are equally guilty).

Sura 6:91-92
6:91. No just estimate of "I AM" do they make when they say: "Nothing doth "I AM" send down to man (by way of revelation)": say: "Who then sent down the Book (Torah) which Moses brought?- a Light and Guidance to man: but ye make it into (separate) sheets for show, while ye conceal much (of its contents): therein were ye taught that which ye knew not- neither ye nor your fathers." Say: "("I AM") (sent it down)": then leave them to plunge in vain discourse and trifling.
6:92. And this is a Book which We have sent down, bringing blessings, and confirming (the revelations) which came before it: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities (Jerusalem - Isaiah 1:1, 21; Matt. 23:37) and all around her (just like almost all of the previous Prophets were also told to do). Those who believe in the Hereafter (also) believe this (Book), and they are constant in guarding their prayers.

Sura 6:154-157
6:154. Moreover, We gave Moses the Book (Torah), COMPLETING (Our favour) to those who would do right, and explaining ALL things IN DETAIL,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY, that they might believe in the meeting with their Lord.
6:155. And this (Torah) is a Book which We have revealed as a BLESSING: so follow it and be righteous, that YE may receive mercy (Sura 32:23):
6:156. Lest YE should say: "The Book (Torah) was sent down to two Peoples before us, and for our part, we remained unacquainted with all that they learned by careful study:"
6:157. Or lest YE should say: "If the Book (Torah) had only been sent down to US, we should have FOLLOWED its guidance BETTER than they (Sura 32:23)." Now then hath come unto YOU a clear (Sign) from your Lord,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY: then who could do MORE WRONG than one who rejecteth "I AM"'s Signs (and Torah - Bible), and turneth away therefrom? In good time shall We requite those who turn away from Our Signs, with a dreadful penalty, for their turning away.

Sura 7:157. "Those who follow The Apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures - the Bible),- in The Law (Torah) and the Gospel (New Testament - Covenant);- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); he releases them from their heavy burdens (Matthew 23:1-4) and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe him, honour him, help him, and follow the Light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper (John 8:12)."

Sura 9:111. "I AM" hath purchased from the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Bliss): they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in Truth, through The Law (Torah), the Gospel (New Testament/Covenant), and the Koran: and who is more faithful to His Covenant (in the Bible) than "I AM"? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded (to fulfill The Covenant of "I AM" written in the Bible): that is the achievement supreme.

Sura 11:17. Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Moses (the Torah) before it,- a guide and a mercy? They believe therein but those of the Sects that reject it,- the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon: for it is the Truth from thy Lord: yet many among men do not believe!

Sura 17:2-4
17:2. We gave Moses the Book (Torah), and made it a Guide to the Children of Israel, (commanding): "Take no-one and nothing other than Me as Disposer of (your) affairs."
17:3. O ye that are sprung from those whom We carried (in the Ark) with Noah! Verily he was a most grateful devotee.
17:4. And We gave (Clear) Warning to the Children of Israel in the Book (Bible), that twice would they do mischief on the earth and be elated with mighty arrogance (and twice would they be punished - Enoch 90:6-9; Matt. 24:37-39)!

Sura 21:48. In the past We granted to Moses and Aaron the Criterion (Torah) (for Judgment), and a Light and a Message for those who would do right,-

Sura 23:20. Also a "tree" (of Knowledge) springing out of Mount Sinai (the Torah), which produces "oil" (of enlightenment), and enjoyment for those who use it for food (spiritual food).

Sura 23:49. And We gave Moses the Book (Torah), in order that they might receive Guidance.

Sura 25:35. (Before this,) We sent Moses The Book (Torah), and appointed his brother Aaron with him as minister;

Sura 28:1-3
28:1. Ta. Sin. Mim. (The Story of Moses - T.S.M.)
28:2. These are Verses from the Book (Torah) that makes (things) clear.
28:3. We rehearse to thee some of the story of Moses and Pharaoh in Truth, for people who believe.

Sura 32:23. We did indeed aforetime give the Book (Torah) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel.

Sura 35:25-32
35:25. And if they reject thee, so did their predecessors, to whom came their Apostles with Clear Signs, Books of dark prophecies, and the Book of Enlightenment (Torah).
35:26. In the end did I punish those who rejected Faith: and how (terrible) was My rejection (of them)!
35:27. Seest thou not that "I AM" sends down rain from the sky? With it We then bring out produce of various colours. And in the mountains are tracts white and red, of various shades of colour, and black intense in hue.
35:28. And so amongst men and crawling creatures and cattle, are they of various colours. Those truly fear "I AM", among His Servants, who have Knowledge: for "I AM" is Almighty, Oft-Forgiving.
35:29. Those who rehearse the Book of "I AM", establish CONSTANT Prayer (1 Thess. 5:17, Sura 5:13), and spend (in Charity) out of what We have provided for them, secretly and openly, hope for a Commerce that will never fail:
35:30. For He will pay them their merit, nay, He will give them (even) more out of His Bounty: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Ready to appreciate (service).
35:31. That which We have revealed to thee about the Book (Bible) is the Truth,- confirming what was (revealed) before: for "I AM" is assuredly - with respect to His Servants - well acquainted and Fully Observant.
35:32. Then We have given the Book (Bible) for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen: but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by "I AM"'s leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the Highest Grace.

Sura 37:117. And We gave them the Book (Torah) which helps to make things clear;

Sura 40:53. We did aforetime give Moses the (Book of) Guidance (Torah), and We gave the Book in inheritance to the Children of Israel,-

Sura 40:70. Those who reject the Book (Bible) and the (Revelations) with which We sent our Apostles: but soon shall they know,-

Sura 41:45. We certainly gave Moses the Book aforetime: but disputes arose thereat. Had it not been for a Word that went forth before from thy Lord, (their differences) would have been settled between them: but they remained in suspicious disquieting doubt thereon.

Sura 42:14-17
42:14. And they became divided only after Knowledge reached them,- through selfish envy between themselves. Had it not been for a Word that went forth before from thy Lord, (tending) to a Term appointed, the matter would have been settled between them: but truly those who have inherited the Book (Torah) after them are in suspicious (disquieting) doubt concerning it.
42:15. Now then, for that (reason), call (them to the Faith), and stand steadfast as thou art commanded, nor follow thou their vain desires but say: "I believe the Book (Bible) which "I AM" has sent down and I am commanded to judge justly between you. "I AM" is our Lord and your Lord: for us (is the responsibility for) our deeds, and for you for your deeds. There is no contention between us and you. "I AM" will bring us together, and to Him is (our) Final Goal.
42:16. But those who dispute concerning "I AM" after He has been accepted,- futile is their dispute in the Sight of their Lord: on them will be a Penalty terrible.
42:17. It is "I AM" Who has sent down the Book (Bible) in Truth, and the Balance (Torah - Sura 6:154-157; 57:25) (by which to weigh conduct). And what will make thee realise that perhaps the Hour is close at hand?

Sura 45:16. We did aforetime grant to the Children of Israel the Book (Bible), the Power of Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good and pure; and We favoured them above the nations.

Sura 46:12. And before this, was the Book of Moses (Torah) as a guide and a mercy: and this Book CONFIRMS (it - the Torah) in the Arabic tongue; to warn the unjust, and as Good News to those who do right.

Sura 46:30. They said, "O our people! We have heard a Book revealed after Moses, confirming what came before it: it guides (men) to the Truth and to The Straight Way.

Sura 48:29. Muhammad is the Apostle of "I AM"; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from "I AM" and (His) Good Pleasure. On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat (Torah); and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. "I AM" has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds Forgiveness, and a great Reward.

Sura 53:36-47
53:36. Nay, is he not acquainted with what is in the Books of Moses-
53:37. And about Abraham who fulfilled his commitments?-
53:38. Namely, that no bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another;
53:39. That man can have nothing but what he strives for;
53:40. That (the fruit of) his striving will soon come in sight;
53:41. Then will he be rewarded with a reward complete;
53:42. That to thy Lord is the final Goal;
53:43. That it is He Who granteth Laughter and Tears;
53:44. That it is He Who granteth Death and Life;
53:45. That He did create in pairs,- male and female,
53:46. From a seed when lodged (in its place);
53:47. That He hath promised a Second Creation (Resurrection of the Dead);

Sura 57:25-29
57:25. We sent aforetime our Apostles with Clear Signs and sent down with them the Book (Torah) and the Balance (of Right and Wrong) (The Covenant), that men may stand forth in justice and We sent down Iron, in which is (material for) mighty war, as well as many benefits for mankind, that "I AM" may test who it is that will help, unseen, Him and His Apostles: for "I AM" is Full of Strength, Almighty (and able to enforce His Will).
57:26. And We sent Noah and Abraham, and established in their line Prophethood and Revelation: and some of them were on right guidance. But many of them became rebellious transgressors.
57:27. Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our Apostles: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of "I AM"; but, that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors.
57:28. O ye that believe! Fear "I AM", and believe in His Messenger, and He will bestow on you a double portion of His Mercy: He will provide for you a Light by which ye shall walk (straight in your path), and He will forgive you (your past): for "I AM" is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
57:29. That the People of the Book (Bible) may know that they have no power whatever over the Grace of "I AM", that (His) Grace is (entirely) in His Hand, to bestow it on whomsoever He wills. For "I AM" is the Lord of Grace abounding.

Sura 61:6. And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Apostle of "I AM" (sent) to you, CONFIRMING The Law (which came) before me (the Torah), and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be the Comforter (John 16:7-15)." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"

Sura 78:2. Concerning the Gospel (Great News),


The parasitic ruling class of criminals who own the corporate banks who in turn own the corporate governments and their corporate organized religions, are counting on us to remain spiritually asleep to what t.h.e.y. have in mind: the extermination of over 90% of mankind through wars and vaccines.

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The ONLY Way to prevent this is to wage a TRUE Spiritual War/Jihad against these extremely evil people, before they complete their plans to rid the planet of what they refer to as the "useless eaters" (or "consumers" if you prefer that word), is to return to our Creator's Law, found only in the first five books of the Bible, aka the Books of Moses, the Pentateuch, The Torah or, in English, THE LAW.

There is no other way to have God's Help, as God Himself has said, and without His Help it is impossible to win. WITH God, all things are possible, as we've been told for thousands of years, throughout each and every lifetime we've experienced here on Earth, in these human-animal bodies (organic prison cells).

Those who genuinely love our Heavenly Father (God) will heed this loving message. Those who are only pretending will continue to scoff at it, just as they mock Father by denying His Message, His Messengers, His Books (the Old Covenant, New Covenant and Quran), as well as denying Father's Infinite Love, Wisdom, Mercy, Patience and Long-Suffering Ways over the numerous past human lives we've experienced to learn The Way home.

 

[A Freeman]

The Scriptures are replete with references to reincarnation, from beginning to end, IF one looks with spiritual eyes. Enoch, the first prophet—who walked with God—taught his son Methuselah, and his entire family about reincarnation before he was translated (Heb. 11:5).


Enoch 90:1 And now, my son Methuselah, call to me all thy brethren, and assemble for me all the children of thy mother; for a voice calls me (Gen. 5:24) and the spirit is poured out upon me, that I may show you every thing which shall happen to YOU for ever (during your many re-incarnations).

This should help explain in part why the churches, synagogues, mosques, etc. and their evil leaders had certain books, like the Book of Enoch, the Gospel of Thomas and the “missing” chapters of the Book of Revelation, removed from the Bible. The churches, etc. don't want YOU to know the truth about reincarnation, because it would expose them as “the blind leading the blind” and destroy their lucrative monopoly and fraudulent claim to be the official brokers of the Hereafter. Stop listening to them; they clearly don't know what they're talking about and are only pretending to be something they cannot possibly be (Matt. 23:8-10, I Tim. 2:5).

The TRUTH About priests, pastors, rabbis, imams, etc.

The TRUTH About the Scriptures


Reincarnation is referenced throughout the Quran:-


Sura 2:28. How can ye reject the faith in God?- seeing that ye were without life, and He gave you life; then will He cause you to die, and will again bring you to life; and again to Him will ye return.

Sura 2:53-56
2:53. And remember We gave Moses the Scripture and the Criterion (Between right and wrong [The Torah]): there was a chance for you to be guided aright.
2:54. And remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Ye have indeed wronged yourselves by your worship of the calf: so turn (in repentance) to your Maker, and slay yourselves (the wrong-doers); that will be better for you in the sight of your Maker." Then He turned towards you (in forgiveness): for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
2:55. And remember ye said: "O Moses! We shall never believe in thee until we see God manifestly," but ye were dazed with thunder and lighting even as ye looked on.
2:56. Then We raised you up after your death (re-incarnation): ye had the opportunity to be grateful.

Sura 2:154-157
2:154. And say not of those who are slain in The Way of God: "They are dead." Nay, they are living, though ye perceive (it) not (re-incarnation).
2:155. Be sure We shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil), but [We] give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere,-
2:156. Who say, when afflicted with calamity: "To God we belong, and to Him is our return":-
2:157. They are those on whom (descend) blessings from God, and Mercy, and they are the ones that receive guidance.

Sura 3:181-184
3:181. God hath heard the taunt of those who say: "Truly, God is indigent and we are rich!"- We shall certainly record their word and (their act) of slaying the Prophets in defiance of right, and We shall say: "Taste ye the Penalty of the Scorching Fire!
3:182. "This is because of the (unrighteous deeds) which your hands sent on before ye: for God never harms those who serve Him."
3:183. They (also) said: "(God) took our promise not to believe in an apostle unless he showed us a sacrifice consumed by fire (from heaven)." Say: "There came to you Apostles before me, with Clear Signs and even with what ye ask for: why then did ye slay them, if ye speak the truth?"
3:184. Then if they reject thee, so were rejected Apostles before thee, who came with Clear Signs, Books of dark prophecies, and the Book of Enlightenment.

Sura 7:53. Do they just wait for the final fulfillment of the event? On the day the event is finally fulfilled, those who disregarded it before will say: "The Apostles of our Lord did indeed bring true (tidings). Have we no intercessors now to intercede on our behalf? Or could we be sent back? Then should we behave differently from our behaviour in the past." In fact they will have lost their souls, and the things they invented will leave them in the lurch.

Sura 7:167-169
7:167. Behold! Thy Lord did declare that He would send against them, to the Day of Judgment, those who would afflict them with grievous Penalty. Thy Lord is quick in retribution, but He is also Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
7:168. We broke them up into sections on this Earth. There are among them some that are the righteous, and some that are the opposite. We have tried them with both prosperity and adversity: in order that they might turn (to Us).
7:169. After them succeeded an (evil) generation: they inherited the Book, but they chose (for themselves) the vanities of this world, saying (for excuse): "(Everything) will be forgiven us." (Even so), if similar vanities came their way, they would (again) seize them. Was not The Covenant of the Book (Bible) agreed to by them, that they would not ascribe to "I AM" anything but the truth? And they study what is in the Book (Bible). But best for the righteous is the Home in the Hereafter. Will ye not understand?

Sura 13:5. If thou dost marvel (at their want of faith), strange is their saying: "When we are (actually) dust, shall we indeed then be in a renewed creation?" They are those who deny their Lord! They are those round whose necks will be yokes (of servitude): they will be Companions of the Fire, to dwell therein (for ever)!

Sura 16:70. It is "I AM" who creates you and takes your souls at death; and of you there are some who are sent back to a feeble age, so that they know nothing after having known (much): for "I AM" is All-Knowing, All-Powerful.

Sura 17:46-51
17:46. And We put coverings over their hearts (and minds) lest they should understand the Koran, and deafness into their ears: when thou dost commemorate thy Lord- and Him alone- in the Koran, they turn their backs, fleeing (from the Truth).
17:47. We know best why it is they listen, when they listen to thee; and when they meet in private conference, behold, the wicked say, "Ye follow none other than a man bewitched!"
17:48. See what similes they strike for thee: but they have gone astray, and never can they find The Way.
17:49. They say: "What! When we are reduced to bones and dust, should we really be raised up (to be) a new creation?" (not believing in re-incarnation)
17:50. Say: "(Nay!) be ye stones or iron,
17:51. "Or created matter which, in your minds, is hardest (to be raised up),- (yet shall ye be raised up)!" Then will they say: "Who will cause us to return?" Say: "He Who first created you!" Then will they wag their heads towards thee, and say, "When will that be?" Say, "Maybe it will be quite soon!

Sura 17:96-99
17:96. Say: "Enough is "I AM" for a witness between me and you: for He is well acquainted with His servants, and He sees (all things).
17:97. It is he whom "I AM" guides, that is on True Guidance; but he whom He leaves astray - for such wilt thou find no protector besides Him. On the Day of Judgment We shall gather them together, prone on their faces, blind, dumb, and deaf: their abode will be Hell-Fire: every time it shows abatement, We shall increase for them the fierceness of the Fire.
17:98. That is their recompense, because they rejected Our Signs, and said, "When we are reduced to bones and broken dust, should we really be raised up (to be) a new Creation?"
17:99. See they not that "I AM", Who created the heavens and the Earth, has power to create the like of them (anew)? Only He has decreed a term appointed, of which there is no doubt. But the unjust refuse (to receive it) except with ingratitude.

Sura 20:55. From the (earth) did We create you, and into it shall We return you, and from it shall We bring you out once again.

Sura 22:5-6
22:5. O mankind! If ye have a doubt about the Resurrection, (consider) that We created you out of dust, then out of sperm, then out of a leech-like clot, then out of a morsel of flesh, partly formed and partly unformed, in order that We may manifest (Our power) to you; and We cause whom We will to rest in the wombs for an appointed term, then do We bring you out as babes, then (foster you) that ye may reach your age of full strength; and some of you are called to die, and some are sent back to the feeblest old age, so that they know nothing after having known (much). And (further), thou seest the earth barren and lifeless, but when We pour down rain on it, it is stirred (to life), it swells, and it puts forth every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs).
22:6. This is so, because "I AM" is the Reality: it is He Who gives life to the dead, and it is He Who has power over all things.

Sura 22:65-66
22:65. Seest thou not that "I AM" has made subject to you (men) all that is on the Earth, and the ships that sail through the sea by His Command? He withholds the sky (rain) from falling on the earth except by His leave: for "I AM" is Most Kind and Most Merciful to man.
22:66. It is He Who gave you life, will cause you to die, and will again give you life: truly man is a most ungrateful creature!

Sura 23:30-40
23:30. Verily in this there are Signs (for men to understand); (thus) do We try (men).
23:31. Then We raised after them another generation.
23:32. And We sent to them an Apostle from among themselves, (saying), "Worship God! Ye have no other God but Him. Will ye not fear (Him)?"
23:33. And the chiefs of his people, who disbelieved and denied the Meeting in the Hereafter, and on whom We had bestowed the good things of this life, said: "He is no more than a man like yourselves: he eats of that of which ye eat, and drinks of what ye drink.
23:34. "If ye obey a man like yourselves, behold, it is certain ye will be lost.
23:35. "Does he promise that when ye die and become dust and bones, ye shall be brought forth (again)?
23:36. "Far, very far (fetched) is that which ye are promised!
23:37. "There is nothing but our life in this world! We shall die and we live! But we shall never be raised up again!
23:38. "He is only a man who invents a lie against God, but we are not the ones to believe in him!"
23:39. (The Prophet) said: "O my Lord! Help me: for they accuse me of falsehood."
23:40. (God) said: "In but a little while, they are sure to be sorry!"

Sura 23:80-84
23:80. It is He Who gives life and death, and to Him (is due) the alternation of Night and Day: will ye not then understand?
23:81. On the contrary they say things similar to what the ancients said.
23:82. They say: "What! When we die and become dust and bones, could we really be raised up again?
23:83. "Such things have been promised to us and to our fathers before! They are nothing but "Old-wives' Tales"!"
23:84. Say: "To whom belong the Earth and all beings therein? (Say) if ye know!"

Sura 23:99-101
23:99. (In Falsehood will they be) until, when death comes to one of them, he says: "O my Lord! Send me back (to life),-
23:100. "In order that I may work righteousness in the things I neglected." - "By no means! It is only a word he says."- Before them is a Partition till the Day they are raised up.
23:101. Then when the Trumpet is blown (Rev. 11:15-18), there will be no more relationships between them that Day, nor will one ask after another!

Sura 26:81. "Who will cause me to die, and then to live (again);

Sura 27:67. The Unbelievers say: "What! When we become dust,- we and our fathers,- shall we really be raised (from the dead)?

Sura 30:40. It is "I AM" Who has created you: further, He has provided for your sustenance; then He will cause you to die; and again He will give you life (re-incarnation). Are there any of your (false) "Partners" who can do any single one of these things? Glory to Him! And high is He above the partners they attribute (to Him)!

Sura 32:10-12
32:10. And they say: "What! When we lie, hidden and lost, in the earth, shall we indeed be in a Creation renewed? Nay, they deny the Meeting with their Lord!"
32:11. Say: "The Angel of Death, put in charge of you, will (duly) take your souls: then shall ye be brought back to your Lord."
32:12. If only thou couldst see when the guilty ones will bend low their heads before their Lord, (saying "Our Lord! We have seen and we have heard: now then send us back (to the world): we will work righteousness: for we do indeed (now) believe."

Sura 36:68. If We grant long life to any, We cause him to be reversed in nature: will they not then understand?

Sura 37:11-20
37:11. Just ask their opinion: are they the more difficult to create, or the Beings We have created? Them have We created out of a sticky clay!
37:12. Truly dost thou marvel, while they ridicule,
37:13. And, when they are warned, pay no heed, -
37:14. And, when they see a Sign, turn it to mockery,
37:15. And say, "This is nothing but obvious sorcery!
37:16. "What! When we die, and become dust and bones, shall we (then) be raised up (again)?
37:17. "And also our ancestors of old?"
37:18. Say thou: "Yea, and ye shall then be humiliated (on account of your evil)."
37:19. Then it will be a single (compelling) cry; and behold, they will begin to see!
37:20. They will say, "Ah! Woe to us! This is the Day of Judgment!"

Sura 39:42. It is "I AM" that takes the souls (of men) at death; and those that die not (He takes) during their sleep: those on whom He has passed the decree of death, He keeps back (from returning to life), but the rest He sends (to their new bodies) for a term appointed. Verily in this are Signs for those who reflect.

Sura 40:11. They will say: "Our Lord! Twice hast Thou made us (when we were) without life (the first creation from fire/energy/light – Sura 7:12, 38:76 – and the second from the dust of the earth – Gen. 2:7), and twice hast Thou given us Life (first the Being and second the human)! Now have we recognised our sins: is there any way out (of this)?"

Sura 41:20-25
41:20. At length, when they reach the (Fire), their hearing, their sight, and their skins will bear witness against them, as to (all) their deeds.
41:21. They (the Souls/spirit-Beings) will say to their skins: "Why bear ye witness against us?" They will say: "("I AM") hath given us speech,- (He) Who giveth speech to everything: He created you for the first time, and unto Him were ye to return.
41:22. "Ye did not seek to hide yourselves, lest your hearing, your sight, and your skins should bear witness against you! But ye did think that "I AM" knew not many of the things that ye used to do!
41:23. "But this thought of yours which ye did entertain concerning your Lord, hath brought you to destruction, and (now) have ye become of those utterly lost!"
41:24. If, then, they have patience, the Fire will be a home for them! And if they beg to be received into favour, into favour will they not (then) be received.
41:25. And We have destined for them intimate companions (women) (of like nature), who made alluring to them what was before them and behind them (Ezekiel 13:18-23); and the Sentence among the previous generations of Beings and humans (human+beings), who have passed away, is confirmed against them; for they are utterly lost.

Sura 50:2-11
50:2. But they wonder that there has come to them a Warner from among themselves. So the Unbelievers say: "This is an extraordinary thing!
50:3. "What! When we die and become dust, (shall we live again?) That is a (sort of) Return far (from our understanding)."
50:4. We already know how much of them the earth takes away: with Us is a record guarding (the full account).
50:5. But they deny the Truth when it comes to them: so they are in a confused state.
50:6. Do they not look at the sky above them?- How We have made it and adorned it, and there are no flaws in it?
50:7. And the Earth- We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and produced therein every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs)-
50:8. To be observed and commemorated by every devotee turning (to "I AM").
50:9. And We send down from the sky Rain charged with blessing, and We produce therewith gardens and Grain for harvests;
50:10. And tall (and stately) palm-trees, with shoots of fruit-stalks, piled one over another;-
50:11. As sustenance for ("I AM"'s) Servants;- and We give (new) life therewith to land that is dead: thus will be the Resurrection.

Sura 56:47-52
56:47. And they used to say, "What! When we die and become dust and bones, shall we then indeed be raised up again?-
56:48. "(We) and our fathers of old?"
56:49. Say: "Yea, those of old and those of later times,
56:50. "All will certainly be gathered together for the meeting appointed for a Day well-known.
56:51. "Then will ye truly,- O ye that go wrong, and treat (Truth) as Falsehood!-
56:52. "Ye will surely taste the fruit of the Tree of the knowledge of evil.

Sura 56:24. A Reward for the Deeds of their past (Life).

Sura 56:60-62
56:60. We have decreed Death to be your common lot, and We are not to be frustrated.
56:61. From changing your Forms and creating you (again) in (Forms) that ye know not.

Sura 71:17-18
71:17. "'And God has produced you from the earth growing (gradually),
71:18. "'And in the End He will return you into the (earth), and raise you forth (again at the Resurrection)?

Sura 79:10-12
79:10. They say (now): "What! Shall we indeed be returned to (our) former state?-
79:11. "What! - When we shall have become rotten bones?"
79:12. They say: "It would, in that case, be a return with loss!"

Sura 80:18-23
80:18. From what stuff hath He created him?
80:19. From a sperm-drop: He hath created him, and then mouldeth him in due proportions;
80:20. Then doth He make His Way smooth for him;
80:21. Then He causeth him to die, and putteth him in his Grave;
80:22. Then, when it is His Will, He will raise him up (again).
80:23. By no means hath he fulfilled what "I AM" hath commanded him.

Sura 100:9-11
100:9. Does he not know,- when that which is in the graves is scattered abroad
100:10. And that which is (locked up) in (human) breasts is made manifest-
100:11. That their Lord had been well-acquainted with them, (even to) that Day?

Many of you intuitively KNOW you've been here before. Now you have definitive proof of it and confirmation of what we really are: spiritual-Beings (Souls) that are temporarily “locked” (incarnated) inside these human-animal bodies (prison cells).

The only thing that should be of any importance in our temporary human existence, at this time and place in history, is learning what we need to learn, to earn a reprieve and pardon and the right to go home.

All Scriptural quotes are from the King of kings' Bible.

 

[A Freeman]

A few examples of reincarnation in the Bible, in verses that humans read right past (whilst the spirit-Being inside is sound asleep)...

Genesis 2:7 And the "I AM" God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became alive and was given a soul [spirit Being] (human+being).

(This illustrates how God puts a spirit-Being/Soul inside of a human body, which is then taken to "paradise" when the human body dies, to either go to heaven or to be sent back to Earth, in another body, to learn what that spirit-Being/Soul needs to learn. Reincarnation.


Genesis 49:1 And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you [that] which shall befall YOU in the last days.

How could the sons of Jacob/Israel be alive several thousand years later, during the last days? Reincarnation.


Deuteronomy 4:30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, [even] in the latter days, if thou turn to the "I AM" thy God, and shalt be obedient unto His voice;

How could the Israelites who were with Moses still be alive during the tribulation/latter days? Reincarnation.


Deuteronomy 31:29 For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt [yourselves], and turn aside from The Way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the "I AM", to provoke Him to anger through the work of your hands.

Again, how could the Israelites who were with Moses still be alive to have evil befall them in the latter days? Reincarnation.

John 9:1-3
9:1 And as [Jesus] passed by, he saw a man which was blind from [his] birth. (re-incarnation)
9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did SIN, THIS MAN, or his parents, that he was BORN blind?
9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

The disciples knew from Christ's Teachings and from The Law that sickness and death are the penalty for sin. The bodies we incarnate are made sick in the hope we take notice something isn't right, and turn to God for His Guidance.

John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in The Temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a WORSE thing come unto thee.

So a physical ailment such as blindness would be an obvious punishment for sin, because God is just and fair in ALL things, and thus would not make one person suffer through a life being physically blind, while others were given the gift of sight, without good reason. The spirit-Being/Soul inside the blind man had therefore obviously sinned IN A PREVIOUS LIFETIME, which is why he was BORN (reincarnated) blind.


Hebrews 9:27-28
9:27 And as it is appointed unto (the "Self" of) men once to die, but then after this The Judgment:
9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear THE SECOND TIME (REINCARNATED in a NEW BODY with a NEW NAME - Rev. 2:17, 3:12, 19:12) without sin unto salvation.

The amazing thing is that most "Christians" quote Hebrews 9:27 as their evidence that "we only live once", i.e. one human lifetime, when that verse quite OBVIOUSLY could not possibly be referring to physical death. In fact most references to "death" in the Bible are spiritual rather than physical (e.g. Matt. 8:22).

The reason it's impossible for the reference to death in Hebrews 9:27 to be physical is because it would render the verse to be a lie. Christ raised several people from the dead, including Lazarus, and the disciples later did as well, which quite plainly means those who were raised from the dead experienced physical death TWICE. Of course there's also Elijah (2 kings 2:11) and Enoch (Gen. 5:23-24, Heb. 11:5), who didn't die at all.

This is why the most important words in all of Scripture are found in John 3:3-7, where we are told we MUST be born again from above, as our true, spiritual selves, to be able to "see" the Kingdom of Heaven (which is spiritual - God is a Spirit-Being and so are all of His Children).

 

[A Freeman]

Surely it should only be necessary for you to post a few simple cast-iron verses to allegedly PROVE reincarnation rather than shunt us off to read a whole "mountain" of stuff which we regrettably usually don't have time to read, for example "Earth vs The Flying Saucers" is on TV soon and I can't miss that!
In the internet debating world we call it the "blunderbuss" style, meaning the poster fires off a big blast of verses at us to try to prove his point and expects us to wade through it, but all it does is leave us scratching our heads wondering what he's trying to say ..

"The more the words,the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone?" (Ecc 6:11)


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By contrast my own posting style is the "sniper" style, using single carefully-aimed shots to prove my point..
As a great prophet once said-

As above please, in the previous post (#193), straight from our Extraterrestrial Progenitors. This has been removed from the other thread to be respectful of others.

Just think of the 7 passages as a 7-round clip that shoots holes in your preconceived notions and satanic nonsense.

Oh, and if it saves you time, in reality the flying saucers will win in the end.

 

[Tidal]

There was a chap in another forum recently who believed in reincarnation and claimed he can remember his past life as a soldier.
So I told him I had an interest in military history and asked him to tell me all the fascinating details of that past life, but he never did, and only replied in the vaguest general terms, why was that?..

 

[A Freeman]

There was a chap in another forum recently who believed in reincarnation and claimed he can remember his past life as a soldier.
So I told him I had an interest in military history and asked him to tell me all the fascinating details of that past life, but he never did, and only replied in the vaguest general terms, why was that?..

How would anyone but that chap know? There are several video documentaries on children who have described their past lives in such detail that it simply cannot be explained any other way. One was a fireman who died on 9/11, who knew his fellow fireman by name when he was taken as a young child to see them, to test his visions.

Countless other similar stories have been recorded and investigated by others.

Of course your attempt to deflect attention from Scriptures which clearly prove reincarnation is taught throughout the Bible, didn't go unnoticed.

 

[Tidal]

Of course your attempt to deflect attention from Scriptures which clearly prove reincarnation is taught throughout the Bible, didn't go unnoticed.

But mate, for every scripture you pull out of the hat which you claim supports reincarnation, I can pull more out of the hat that shoots the theory down..
But for debates sake, let's suppose reincarnation is true, how many times does somebody keep getting reborn into a new body?
And when the sun turns into a red giant and destroys the earth billions of years from now, where will people get reincarnated back to if the earth is a burnt-out lifeless cinder?

 

[A Freeman]

But mate, for every scripture you pull out of the hat which you claim supports reincarnation, I can pull more out of the hat that shoots the theory down..

No, you can't.

But for debates sake, let's suppose reincarnation is true, how many times does somebody keep getting reborn into a new body?

We've been given approximately 6000 years, which will end on Judgment Day (SOON).

And when the sun turns into a red giant and destroys the earth billions of years from now, where will people get reincarnated back to if the earth is a burnt-out lifeless cinder?

The only need for human bodies is here, on this prison-planet reform school for the criminally insane (Earth), during the prison term (6000 years of "Winter" under Satan's misrule, followed by the Sabbath millennium reign of Christ here, aka "Summer"). Most will go into the Fire on Judgment Day, and the rest will be free to leave this planet in 1000 years, with no need for a human body, to return to our true spiritual family, among the stars (our home).

These Children Remember Their Past Lives | Real Life Reincarnation | Real Families
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=qcsqOBUdK28

 

[Tidal]

Tidal said- But mate, for every scripture you pull out of the hat which you claim supports reincarnation, I can pull more out of the hat that shoots the theory down..
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No, you can't.

Tut-tut, I thought you were a Christian mate, but there you are arguing with Jesus!

Remember he said to the chap on the cross next to him "Today you'll be with me in Paradise".
See, he didn't say "You'll only be getting a day pass then will be coming back to earth"..

 

[Resistor]

Directly related to this subject, why do you Christians believe that God cursed the many generations of a single person's seed for disobeying God?
Christians don't understand the implications of God doing this (as with even their original sin doctrine).