Putin officially threatens Nuclear War

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Why should they die to maintain being a US puppet ?

Seriously Ukraine should just accept that they will be in Russias orbit and work on friendly relations with them.

The US needs to stop sticking their necks in every single corner of the world.
Because they don’t want to be Russian puppets and that is their right
 

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from everything i can see..:

the ukrainian people don’t want this. the russian people don’t want this. the only people who want this are putin, the chinese leader, and the russian separatists this was supposed to “protect” who were not being held hostage in ukraine and were free to move to russia if that suited them better.

self determination shouldn’t only be for entitled egolomaniac “leaders”
 
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from everything i can see..:

the ukrainian people don’t want this. the russian people don’t want this. the only people who want this are putin, the chinese leader, and the russian separatists this was supposed to “protect” who were not being held hostage in ukraine and were free to move to russia if that suited them better.

self determination shouldn’t only be for entitled egolomaniac “leaders”
Ultimately, they are all Globalist puppets appearing to oppose each other. Putin was part of the WEF Young Global Leaders, Ukraine's president is a WEF member.
Biden is followed by Klaus Schwab on Twitter and his Build Back Better crap is the Great Reset in other words. They want to avoid prosecution for crimes against humanity committed with the vaccines and lockdowns so they are trying to trigger WW3 and depopulate the planet.
 
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Ultimately, they are all Globalist puppets appearing to oppose each other. Putin was part of the WEF Young Global Leaders, Ukraine's president is a WEF member.
Biden is followed by Klaus Schwab on Twitter and his Build Back Better crap is the Great Reset in other words. They want to avoid prosecution for crimes against humanity committed with the vaccines and lockdowns so they are trying to trigger WW3 and depopulate the planet.
Dude the WEF does not control the world.

They didn't create Covid.

Klaus Schwaab doesn't run the world. This isn't a cartoon.

Tucker Carlson is bad for your brain.
 

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Fox News reported that Chinese planes entered Taiwan airspace.

This whole thing is a shit storm that has been caused by US imperialism going back over 100 years ago.

I assume people know the history of Taiwan.

The bottom line is that we are now in a multipolar world whether people like it or not.

The US can no longer just bully nations to their demands.

Russia and China have been planning this for quite a while I imagine.

The US has been poking both of them for decades and showing them how they treat adversaries via Iraq, Iran, Libya etc.

I blame US foreign policy disaster of the last 100 years for all of this. Everything is connected.
I'm on neither side of this argument really, but to a certain degree isn't this particular answer just making the US the preverbal Boogeyman? Not that I'm agreeing or disagreeing, just an observation.

Regardless of what the catalyst may or may not be, this is going to affect things on a global scale. Everyone would be implicated by multiple wars all going on at the same time. There has to be a bigger plan in store. This seems too calculated to be happening all at the same time.
I dont have time for people who have been living under a rock. Like people who actually think CRT is a thing.

Russia TV has promoted all of your stupid conspiracy theories including CRT. That's one example that directly relates to you.
On critical race theory though, I've personally encountered it in my own life. It may not be to the level it's pushed on right wing media, but it is most definitely and actual thing.
 
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Dude the WEF does not control the world.

They didn't create Covid.

Klaus Schwaab doesn't run the world. This isn't a cartoon.

Tucker Carlson is bad for your brain.
Can you refute anything I said besides reciting leftist talking points? Covid has all the signs of being the result of gain of function research as was shown in Fauci's emails. They dont control the world yet but they are trying hard, and believe me the more people underestimate them the worse it will get.
 
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I'm on neither side of this argument really, but to a certain degree isn't this particular answer just making the US the preverbal Boogeyman? Not that I'm agreeing or disagreeing, just an observation.

Regardless of what the catalyst may or may not be, this is going to affect things on a global scale. Everyone would be implicated by multiple wars all going on at the same time. There has to be a bigger plan in store. This seems too calculated to be happening all at the same time.
you just have to be aware of history to understand that everything taking place is a result of US foreign policy. This isn't seeing them as a "boogeyman" or being anti-American, and it isn't "Russian propaganda:" either its just the cold hard truth.

We can trace today back to the 2014 coup, where Victoria Nuland is on audio talking about how they were running the operation. We can go back further to NATO encroachment, we can go back to the breakup of the USSR. The US has their fingerprints in ALL of it.

Unfortunately this is the world reality, and yeah they probably are orchestrating this all as a part of a greater plot. The best case scenario is for the West to just accept that Ukraine will be in Russia's sphere of influence and not provoke this any further. It is not worth it.

On critical race theory though, I've personally encountered it in my own life. It may not be to the level it's pushed on right wing media, but it is most definitely and actual thing.
what have you experienced ?
 
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Can you refute anything I said besides reciting leftist talking points? Covid has all the signs of being the result of gain of function research as was shown in Fauci's emails. They dont control the world yet but they are trying hard, and believe me the more people underestimate them the worse it will get.
The Covid thing is much bigger than Fauci or Klaus Schwaab.

You guys like to obsess about "Event 201" one night where a bunch of university professors sat at a table with some business leaders and read scenarios about a pandemic and the appropriate responses. This supposedly "secret" and "evil" plan can be watched online.

However nobody likes to talk about CRIMSON CONTAGION, a HALF YEAR long series of drills (simulating a Chinese virus spreading throughout the world and killing millions) run by the Trump administration including the Department of Defence, Department of Homeland Security, and the National Security Agency. This took place before Event 201 and wasn't just a bunch of teachers sitting at a table, they were live drills being monitored by the NSC. I'm sure much of this information is redacted and cannot be easily accessed like Event 201.

So why so much hype about Event 201, when a much bigger, much more secretive, and much more important CRIMSON CONTAGION preceded EVent 201.

Because you clowns are bending over to Tucker Carlson to tell you what to believe.
 

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you just have to be aware of history to understand that everything taking place is a result of US foreign policy. This isn't seeing them as a "boogeyman" or being anti-American, and it isn't "Russian propaganda:" either its just the cold hard truth.

We can trace today back to the 2014 coup, where Victoria Nuland is on audio talking about how they were running the operation. We can go back further to NATO encroachment, we can go back to the breakup of the USSR. The US has their fingerprints in ALL of it.

Unfortunately this is the world reality, and yeah they probably are orchestrating this all as a part of a greater plot. The best case scenario is for the West to just accept that Ukraine will be in Russia's sphere of influence and not provoke this any further. It is not worth it.



what have you experienced ?
Well there was a lot going on in 2014. I have some writeups on the PC at the house so I'll give a better answer once I get home.

Basically all of the CRT talking points in actual discussions in real life from multiple people who went to school in the NE US. One specifically from Virginia, DC area, then he was in Boston. If it were just one or two examples I could chock it up to coincidence. That's just like the discussion you and I have had on Covid. I've known too many to get sick and some even die to say it doesn't exist. I like to go off life experience as often as I can. As I feel like you do as well.
 
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The Covid thing is much bigger than Fauci or Klaus Schwaab.

You guys like to obsess about "Event 201" one night where a bunch of university professors sat at a table with some business leaders and read scenarios about a pandemic and the appropriate responses. This supposedly "secret" and "evil" plan can be watched online.

However nobody likes to talk about CRIMSON CONTAGION, a HALF YEAR long series of drills (simulating a Chinese virus spreading throughout the world and killing millions) run by the Trump administration including the Department of Defence, Department of Homeland Security, and the National Security Agency. This took place before Event 201 and wasn't just a bunch of teachers sitting at a table, they were live drills being monitored by the NSC. I'm sure much of this information is redacted and cannot be easily accessed like Event 201.

So why so much hype about Event 201, when a much bigger, much more secretive, and much more important CRIMSON CONTAGION preceded EVent 201.

Because you clowns are bending over to Tucker Carlson to tell you what to believe.
"But Trump!!!!" Pathetic.
 
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Russia backing Trump and Brexit ? Zero evidence to prove it,but bring some on if u got it .It seemed that Trump's opponents were more busy destabilizing america than Trump
World Enslavement Forums puppet Orban is a fascist ? Ok,i did not know that .( https://www.weforum.org/people/viktor-orban )
But then again can u explain to me what is fascism ? Maybe we have an different understanding of the word.Would love to hear your explanation since u seem to have a good eye to notice them everywhere.
What makes Bolsonaro a fascist ?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1571212/brexit-news-russia-ukraine-invasion

Writer Marcus Chown told his almost 50,000 followers on Twitter the vote for Brexit was “a vote for Putin”.

He wrote: “Unfortunately, a vote for Brexit was a vote for Putin to invade Ukraine because it weakened the Western alliance and emboldened Putin.

“Putin’s people engineered this by bankrolling the Conservative Party and the Brexit campaign, which is why Johnson has hidden the Russia Report.”


The 50-page document from Parliament’s Intelligence and Security committee was, in fact, published in July 2020, though it was criticised for being heavily redacted.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/21/russian-meddling-brexit-referendum-tories-russia-report-government

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/09/arron-banks-russia-brexit-meeting

Arron Banks, the millionaire businessman who bankrolled Nigel Farage’s campaign to quit the EU, had multiple meetings with Russian embassy officials in the run-up to the Brexit referendum, documents seen by the Observer suggest.

Banks, who gave £12m of services to the campaign, becoming the biggest donor in UK history, has repeatedly denied any involvement with Russian officials, or that Russian money played any part in the Brexit campaign. The Observer has seen documents which a senior Tory MP says, if correct, raise urgent and troubling questions about his relationship with the Russian government.


The communications suggest:

Multiple meetings between the leaders of Leave.EU and high-ranking Russian officials, from November 2015 to 2017.

Two meetings in the week Leave.EU launched its official campaign.

An introduction to a Russian businessman, by the Russian ambassador, the day after Leave.EU launched its campaign, who reportedly offered Banks a multibillion dollar opportunity to buy Russian goldmines.

A trip to Moscow in February 2016 to meet key partners and financiers behind a gold project, including a Russian bank.

Continued extensive contact in the run-up to the US election when Banks, his business partner and Leave.EU spokesman Andy Wigmore, and Nigel Farage campaigned in the US to support Donald Trump’s candidacy.



Do you want evidence for the sky being blue as well ?
 
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from everything i can see..:

the ukrainian people don’t want this. the russian people don’t want this. the only people who want this are putin, the chinese leader, and the russian separatists this was supposed to “protect” who were not being held hostage in ukraine and were free to move to russia if that suited them better.

self determination shouldn’t only be for entitled egolomaniac “leaders”
are you really just going to erase the US involvement in all this and revert to "Russia bad" "China bad" ?

seriously what business does the US have trying to influence Ukraine ?
 
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are you really just going to erase the US involvement in all this and revert to "Russia bad" "China bad" ?
what i’m doing is prioritizing the needs and desires of the CURRENT people living in ukraine who want their own country and are currently being bombed and attacked in their own streets. if they were declaring THEY wanted to be part of russia - so be it. that isn’t the case.

the US sucks but so does literally everyone else.
 
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what i’m doing is prioritizing the needs and desires of the CURRENT people living in ukraine who want their own country and are currently being bombed and attacked in their own streets. if they were declaring THEY wanted to be part of russia - so be it. that isn’t the case.

the US sucks but so does literally everyone else.
The Ukrainian people are not being bombed in the streets.

armed units and infrastructure are being bombed. The people live in the cities not at military airports and anti aircraft sites.

Not saying this wont happen later, hopefully not, but atm this is 2 armed forces fighting each other. I dont see any signs of urban conflict. Again lets hope it doesn't get to that.

Thats why they should just give up, its not worth fighting.

the Ukrainian government is handing out guns to citizens so they can die to defend US imperialism, and using a fake nationalism to cover their true objectives. Why should they do that ? The people should not get involved.
 

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The Ukrainian people are not being bombed in the streets.

armed units and infrastructure are being bombed. The people live in the cities not at military airports and anti aircraft sites.

Not saying this wont happen later, hopefully not, but atm this is 2 armed forces fighting each other. I dont see any signs of urban conflict. Again lets hope it doesn't get to that.

Thats why they should just give up, its not worth fighting.

the Ukrainian government is handing out guns to citizens so they can die to defend US imperialism, and using a fake nationalism to cover their true objectives. Why should they do that ? The people should not get involved.

They’ve already bombed hospitals man
 

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The Ukrainian people are not being bombed in the streets.

armed units and infrastructure are being bombed. The people live in the cities not at military airports and anti aircraft sites.

Not saying this wont happen later, hopefully not, but atm this is 2 armed forces fighting each other. I dont see any signs of urban conflict. Again lets hope it doesn't get to that.

Thats why they should just give up, its not worth fighting.

the Ukrainian government is handing out guns to citizens so they can die to defend US imperialism, and using a fake nationalism to cover their true objectives. Why should they do that ? The people should not get involved.
Why should they just accept Russian rule and bow down to a backwards theocracy?

Russia has a history of backstabbing and ethnic cleansing in Ukraine going back to the Czars or the Bolshevik betrayal of Makhno.
 

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The Ukrainian people are not being bombed in the streets.

armed units and infrastructure are being bombed. The people live in the cities not at military airports and anti aircraft sites.

Not saying this wont happen later, hopefully not, but atm this is 2 armed forces fighting each other. I dont see any signs of urban conflict. Again lets hope it doesn't get to that.

Thats why they should just give up, its not worth fighting.

the Ukrainian government is handing out guns to citizens so they can die to defend US imperialism, and using a fake nationalism to cover their true objectives. Why should they do that ? The people should not get involved.
would you just give up? if it was the other way around and america was invading someone would you advise THEM to just give up? i’ve seen you in the past say precisely the opposite but you have a soft spot for putin when it suits you so i guess here we are.

the ukrainian people do not want to be under russian rule. that is the only thing that actually matters here.

and ukrainians are dying due to an unprovoked military action - whether it is “contained” to certain military establishments or not at the moment is neither here nor there. they are being terrorized and are fearful and are fleeing their homes (and dying) as a foreign country tries to violently and forcefully take control against their wishes.

take the blinders off.
 
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