Did Oj Do It?

[Etagloc]

What is interesting is...

I wonder if his story is an indictment...

of the coconut. Perhaps part of his path of violence was directed against his own inner self. There is something that makes me uneasy about people who do not accept who they are. Perhaps they have committed a violence against their own self and perhaps they will similarly be prone to violence against the one who comes close to them.

 

[Dan]

O. J. Simpson:
The Timeline

The matching bloody gloves found at the murder scene and outside Simpson's home
9:36 P.M. Simpson, wearing a dark sweat suit, is seen by Kato Kaelin.

9:30-9:45 Charles Cale, walking his dog by Simpson's Rockingham residence, does not see Bronco.

10:02 Simpson attempts to call Paula Barbieri on the cell phone from his Bronco.

10:15 (prosecution)-10:40 (defense) Period during which murders took place.

10:22-10:30 Limo driver Allan Park, scheduled to take Simpson to airport, does not see Bronco on Rockingham.

10:40, 10:43, 10:49 Allan Park buzzes Simpson's intercom, but gets no response.

10:50 White or light bronco observed at the intersection of Bundy and Dorothy.

10:51 or 10:52 Kato Kaelin hears three thumps on the wall outside his room.

10:54 Allan Park sees a man wearing dark clothes, about 6-feet tall and 200 pounds, walk across the driveway of the Simpson residence.

10:55 Simpson lies to Allan Park.

Bundy and Dorothy?! Interesting mix of names.

 

[Haich]

What is interesting is...

I wonder if his story is an indictment...

of the coconut. Perhaps part of his path of violence was directed against his own inner self. There is something that makes me uneasy about people who do not accept who they are. Perhaps they have committed a violence against their own self and perhaps they will similarly be prone to violence against the one who comes close to them.

He had his demons that's clear, he probably tried to repress his heritage who knows but regardless of his skin colour, his character by what is apparent in interviews and the execution of this murder, was vile and manipulative

He shows no emotion and looks quite distant, sociopath maybe or a psychopath ?

He can run from the courts but not from God

 

[Dan]

He had his demons that's clear, he probably tried to repress his heritage who knows but regardless of his skin colour, his character by what is apparent in interviews and the execution of this murder, was vile and manipulative

He shows no emotion and looks quite distant, sociopath maybe or a psychopath ?

He can run from the courts but not from God

Interesting to note that some of the court footage appeared in Natural Born Killers, an Oliver Stone movie. And we know that guy is definitely onto something. He also directed Snowden.

 

[Etagloc]

He had his demons that's clear, he probably tried to repress his heritage who knows but regardless of his skin colour, his character by what is apparent in interviews and the execution of this murder, was vile and manipulative

He shows no emotion and looks quite distant, sociopath maybe or a psychopath ?

He can run from the courts but not from God

When I say "the coconut" I don't mean specifically him... I'm not really sure how to say it in English. When you say "the woman" in Spanish, you are not necessarily talking about a singular woman but "the woman" can mean you are talking about women and womanhood in general. I meant "the coconut" in that sort of sense. I am a little surprised to see you call him a coconut because I thought that coconut was specifically for Latino sellouts and that Black sellouts were called oreos. I didn't realize that both could be called coconuts. So you see, I wonder if this man's psychology gives a hint about the larger psychology of the sellout in general. I am sort of suspicious of coconuts and wonder about their mental health. If a person hates their own people, then... perhaps that person is dangerous.

I used to live in the projects OJ is from. Those projects are very dangerous and there's a lot of crazy people from there. I suppose he probably experienced some very dark things in the Potrero Hill Projects and perhaps he became warped and he pursued external success while neglecting the things of the inner world.

 

[Haich]

When I say "the coconut" I don't mean specifically him... I'm not really sure how to say it in English. When you say "the woman" in Spanish, you are not necessarily talking about a singular woman but "the woman" can mean you are talking about women and womanhood in general. I meant "the coconut" in that sort of sense. I am a little surprised to see you call him a coconut because I thought that coconut was specifically for Latino sellouts and that Black sellouts were called oreos. I didn't realize that both could be called coconuts. So you see, I wonder if this man's psychology gives a hint about the larger psychology of the sellout in general. I am sort of suspicious of coconuts and wonder about their mental health. If a person hates their own people, then... perhaps that person is dangerous.

I used to live in the projects OJ is from. Those projects are very dangerous and there's a lot of crazy people from there. I suppose he probably experienced some very dark things in the Potrero Hill Projects and perhaps he became warped and he pursued external success while neglecting the things of the inner world.

Ah ok in a generic sense I think coconuts or Oreos or bountys (famous coconut chocolate in the UK) tend to feel inferior and try to adopt and beg the white man. I work with a coconut and honestly when he looks in the mirror I think he sees a Derek staring at the mirror instead of a Abdi (generic Somali name).

With regards to mental health, I wouldn't go that far but rather a complexity in their personality or outlook on life. To repress your roots is just problematic and will cause such a diaspora where you'll suffer from an identity crisis that could lead to other issues such as mental health

I met a girl who'd constantly emphasise her parents were Ghanaian and she wasn't, she'd say she's British and that she had no link with her motherland. People like this are deluded...

We say coconuts and bountys somdtimes Oreo lol

 

[Etagloc]

Ah ok in a generic sense I think coconuts or Oreos or bountys (famous coconut chocolate in the UK) tend to feel inferior and try to adopt and beg the white man. I work with a coconut and honestly when he looks in the mirror I think he sees a Derek staring at the mirror instead of a Abdi (generic Somali name).

With regards to mental health, I wouldn't go that far but rather a complexity in their personality or outlook on life. To repress your roots is just problematic and will cause such a diaspora where you'll suffer from an identity crisis that could lead to other issues such as mental health

I met a girl who'd constantly emphasise her parents were Ghanaian and she wasn't, she'd say she's British and that she had no link with her motherland. People like this are deluded...

We say coconuts and bountys somdtimes Oreo lol

This is exactly why I feel that we must never forget colonialism and that we must view things through a postcolonial lens. We live in an age of postcolonialism and neocolonialism and this is part of how we decipher our times.

The coconut, oreo, bounty, is a person whose mind has been colonized. Now traditionally, when we are talking about colonization and colonialism we are speaking in terms of European colonialism but we can use the same apparatus of understanding to understand how the Illuminati colonizes humanity. Postcolonial studies is an accepted academic tradition represented by such brilliant scholars as Frantz Fanon who discussed colonialism from the perspective of Africa and Enrique Dussel who discussed colonialism from the standpoint of Latin America and who I feel emotional as I mention because he has inspired me so much personally and taught me so much and I feel paved the way for future generations of Latin American philosophers. The more we understand the postcolonial lens, the more we understand not only as those whose ancestors were victims or perpetrators of colonialism but the more sophisticated will become our understanding of how the Illuminati controls the world psychologically.

Is this not a form of disassociation? If I look in a mirror and see someone who I not am, is this not disassociation?

Therefore the colonized person is walking around in a disassociated state and is potentially dangerous. If you are walking around disassociated from reality, this is dangerous to yourself and potentially to others, just as if you are driving a car and disassociated from your surroundings, you may become a danger to others on the road.

When we talk about the coconut, we are not merely maintaining the usage of a derogatory insult that perhaps the dominant culture would see as some sort of marginal race thing that is irrelevant... the coconut is extremely important. It is through the coconut that the colonial powers maintain their control. History shows that the colonizers have always used people of the colonized group- the coconuts- to control the others of their group.

 

[Aero]

Not something I've paid a lot of attention to. But I think OJ is both guilty, and a victim. And I don't like the sociopath label. I think most psychos are in fact dissociated. The anger, rage and manipulation comes from alter egos.

What I'm saying is dissociation is the number 1 misdiagnosed psychological issue people have. It's basically unknown to science, like they don't want to know. Slap a label like psycho on someone and call it a day.

 

[Haich]

The coconut, oreo, bounty, is a person whose mind has been colonized.

Gordon Bennet! You're right. They've been conditioned to accept a new reality in the west yet are conflicted because they aren't wholeheartedly accepted. That's pretty deep.

 

[Haich]

Are you sure you're 23 @Etagloc

 

[Haich]

This thread has just turned deep. I never thought to approach the coconut as a victim of disassociation but the more I think of it the more it makes sense, I'll have to give this more thought and post a detailed reply tonight

 

[Haich]

 

[Etagloc]

Are you sure you're 23 @Etagloc

Thank you Haich

I am glad this is the internet or you may have seen me blush.

I am really encouraged by your words not because they reflect any merit belonging specifically to me... but I think because they testify to the potential and the fertility of postcolonial theory and the work of its pioneers such as Frantz Fanon, José Vasconcelos, Kwame Nkrumah, Paulo Freire, Ngugi Wa Thiong'o, Ignacio Martín-Baró, Enrique Dussel, Paulo Freire- and I would include Malcolm X.

I think that we have to study these great teachers and that the work of these great teachers may one day help to make Africa, Latin America, Asia and the Middle East even greater.

If anyone found what I was talking about interesting, I hope that perhaps they will at least think about reading this book (by a courageous man who I believe was secretly assassinated for his courageous and pioneering work)

and this book

I hope that people go to these noble pioneers and learn directly from their work.

Their work lives today!

 

[Haich]

I'll definitely check out those books, I'm really interested in going back to uni to learn about post colonialism and the effects of it on people today, hopefully I'll get the chance one day, God willing

 

[Haich]

And @Etagloc my brother is 23 but he's more interested in cars and PS4 games hence my admiration for your thirst for knowledge

 

[Etagloc]

I'll definitely check out those books, I'm really interested in going back to uni to learn about post colonialism and the effects of it on people today, hopefully I'll get the chance one day, God willing

I was in the slums and there was a woman who went to Berkeley and had a mental breakdown and became homeless... she ended up in the hood and that was how we met. We talked and she told me I was a postcolonial theorist like Frantz Fanon. I had read Fanon but I didn't know there was a name for my line of thinking and didn't really understand that I was talking about stuff that people in universities talked about until she explained to me that they had taught about Fanon in Berkeley or something.

I have never been to a university or taken a class on any of that stuff... I've had very little community college and honestly I am scared to go to school because I have always hated achool and I am scared of school trying to brainwash me.

I am a nobody. I am poor, I live in a housing project and I am not a very significant person. I just like to read books and anyone can read books. I am no one specal and I am not educated.

 

[Haich]

I was in the slums and there was a woman who went to Berkeley and had a mental breakdown and became homeless... she ended up in the hood and that was how we met. We talked and she told me I was a postcolonial theorist like Frantz Fanon. I had read Fanon but I didn't know there was a name for my line of thinking and didn't really understand that I was talking about stuff that people in universities talked about until she explained to me that they had taught about Fanon in Berkeley or something.

I have never been to a university or taken a class on any of that stuff... I've had very little community college and honestly I am scared to go to school because I have always hated achool and I am scared of school trying to brainwash me.

I am a nobody. I am poor, I live in a housing project and I am not a very significant person. I just like to read books and anyone can read books. I am no one specal and I am not educated.

Well I think you're pretty special, many of your posts are well thought out and show you have a lot knowledge and wisdom. You should really look into a career in this field, I can see you teaching young people in a school or college

 

[Etagloc]

And @Etagloc my brother is 23 but he's more interested in cars and PS4 games hence my admiration for your thirst for knowledge

Why can't I be normal
I have tried very hard to be normal and I simply am not

but perhaps it is God's plan that there will be people who are more excited about books than cars.

 

[Haich]

You know E you remind me of a really respected guy here called Akala. He too gets his knowledge from just books and left school at 15. You should search up his content, he's a social commentator but speaks for the little man like you and me

 

[Haich]

Why can't I be normal
I have tried very hard to be normal and I simply am not

but perhaps it is God's plan that there will be people who are more excited about books than cars.

Trust me you're on the right track, my brother is just a typical guy living at home with my mum cooking for him and answering his beck and call