BTS discussion thread

[Kimiko]

"If you know him well"...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1446370529267499010

They are totally serious in those comments
They really hate it when the girl is attractive ,like that pretty Indian interviewer a few months ago

The woman is korean amd a celeb so she has a better chance than the armpits

why are they so sure their boys dont care about looks when its obvious that they are superficial as hell otherwise they wouldnt have all the plastic surgery themselves and constantly dieting to stay skinny and wearing 50lbs of make up or constantly praise vee and jn for their good looks

Ms Korea shoot your shot sis

Ima go peek at these comments for a good laugh

 

[tzolld]

Y'all remember when jk looked like he was badly burned from a cigar or something?
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I'm not a dancer but I think like jk, niki's mark is not dance related but abuse. I've also noticed idols always having visible marks. Also, let's not forget that dance practices can also be abusive. I remember a clip that disturbed me greatly with b*s. It's an old clip from skool luv affair special edition...in case anyone wants to try and find it. Anyway, their choreographer had them dance way past the time they were supposed to be done for the day. They were all crying about being sleepy, starving, and wanting to go home. They had been practicing for 12hrs already or some nonsense. And he kept having them do the routine over and over again. If all of them did it perfectly then they would get to go home if not They would have to do it again. They looked like they were on the verge of collapse. And this is with the cameras rolling. There's all kinds of abuse.

Whoa ! Thats some mark....definitely looks like maybe a burn, definitely something very hurtful. I know someone who had a cig burn mark and it looked nowhere near as bad as this. But maybe it also depend on how long and strongly you are burned by it. Never seen this pic before. I also dont think that they keep getting these marks just from choreography alone, it makes no sense. I can't handle the darkness of it all....going on camera showing abuse marks like that, and no accountability will ever happen (most probably, never say never though), and then having a fandom that is mostly delu/simply blind and doesn't bat an eyelid.

And this vid that was recently posted here with the supposed jk "tiks", well, it is definitely clear that there is something(s) going on there. The videos are definitely not enough to accurately diagnose someone with anything. I think all these tic like things he has going, and the zoning out etc. is a complex mixture of: dissociation, effects of abuse, mkultr# programming and sometimes maybe just nervousness/other mental health stuff and maybe substance use sometimes + unhealthy eating or starvation patterns which I think most of the members have anyway.
The vid of TH from t+t is also really really creepy. I have the impression that he might be the most programmed and abused member of t+t together with yn. Just going from their behaviours. But Bg definitely also visibly has some stuff going on, hk more recently I think too, sb gives a more stable impression as the leader but also looks pretty starved in recent times. I am interested to see what the upcoming enh#en comeback next tuesday will bring.

 

[tzolld]

Y'all remember when jk looked like he was badly burned from a cigar or something?
View attachment 63743
I'm not a dancer but I think like jk, niki's mark is not dance related but abuse. I've also noticed idols always having visible marks. Also, let's not forget that dance practices can also be abusive. I remember a clip that disturbed me greatly with b*s. It's an old clip from skool luv affair special edition...in case anyone wants to try and find it. Anyway, their choreographer had them dance way past the time they were supposed to be done for the day. They were all crying about being sleepy, starving, and wanting to go home. They had been practicing for 12hrs already or some nonsense. And he kept having them do the routine over and over again. If all of them did it perfectly then they would get to go home if not They would have to do it again. They looked like they were on the verge of collapse. And this is with the cameras rolling. There's all kinds of abuse.

Also do you have that clip possibly ? or maybe you can find it. Anyhow I definitely believe you, the staff, especially managers etc. ,especially at the beginning of their careers probably had a big part in their abuse and handling them. I wonder what the power dynamics are like now, between btß, their staff, managers etc. I think actually maybe not even that different now.

 

[tzolld]

He's scary. Even when he's supposed to be his sunshine smiley persona, his smile never reaches his eyes. He seems evil to me. It's hard for me to look at him that's how much he gives me the creeps. Him and rm enjoy this whole thing way too much. I think they are deep in the occult and help keep the others in line. I'd say jhpe is a handler for sure.

JH also gives me creepy vibes. After nj, maybe I find them equally creepy ? not sure ! He definitely seems to have a more evil, controlling side. I can see him being a handler for others, a little bit maybe.
His "true" personality seems to be buried really deeply, it is very difficult to really read him. I do think though that recently, especially with him there has been some visible changes and struggles bubbling to the surface. This more recent vlive he did where he said "im not okay", had a really eerie vibe and just a general vibe of "something feeling off". He looked really tired and troubled. The vanity fair interview where he said he worries about his future was also very eerie and strange. Almost like foreshadowing that something bad might come to them in the future ? ...

 

[Berries]

Bighit/BTS are very good at what they do,

Remember the members of BTS are also OWNERS of Bighit so they also profit off of whatever BH profits from.

 

[Berrywon88]

ok thanks

Also do you have that clip possibly ? or maybe you can find it. Anyhow I definitely believe you, the staff, especially managers etc. ,especially at the beginning of their careers probably had a big part in their abuse and handling them. I wonder what the power dynamics are like now, between btß, their staff, managers etc. I think actually maybe not even that different now.

I found it. I was right, it's from the skool luv affair special dvd. It starts at the 8:16 mark.
8:54 jk asks can we rest.
They then say they've been practicing the routine for a month even on New Year's.
8:58-9:01 Yn says we spent all our waking hours dancing then yells "let us go home!"
9:20 is where the instructor tells them they have to dance correctly 3 times out of 5 to random music to go home. This being after jhpe said he felt unconscious.

It's made to look like it's funny and they're messing around but if you look behind all that it's really horrible. Even after the dancing game they practice the routine some more. Who knows when they got to actually go home.

 

[Berrywon88]

Remember the members of BTS are also OWNERS of Bighit so they also profit off of whatever BH profits from.

0.02% lol

 

[Berrywon88]

And this vid that was recently posted here with the supposed jk "tiks", well, it is definitely clear that there is something(s) going on there. The videos are definitely not enough to accurately diagnose someone with anything. I think all these tic like things he has going, and the zoning out etc. is a complex mixture of: dissociation, effects of abuse, mkultr# programming and sometimes maybe just nervousness/other mental health stuff and maybe substance use sometimes + unhealthy eating or starvation patterns which I think most of the members have anyway.
The vid of TH from t+t is also really really creepy. I

Agreed to all. And the fact that these idols from completely different groups all show the same behavior. The one thing they have in common is they're all under bh. I think that's telling.

 

[Berries]

0.02% lol

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/09/bts-become-shareholders-of-big-hit-entertainment-after-news-of-labels-initial-public-offering

snippet from article:
If registration goes smoothly with the Financial Services Commission and Big Hit Entertainment is listed on the Korea Composite Stock Price Index, the BTS members will receive $7.7 million each, doubling their net worth of $8 million in 2019. Big Hit Entertainment plans to hold 1,426,000 shares, which means BTS will own 33.5% of the label and 6.7% of the total shares.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Hmmn from what we see on camera I think he may shows signs of having it, but I could be wrong of course. And there are many celebs with mental disorders so that person that said it's impossible doesn't know what they're talking about.

People would say it's impossible for a celebrity to have serious mental illness but we see it all the time. The structure of being a celebrity let's them function but barely. When they're in different places, they breakdown. I think it's possible he could have a mental illness or Asperger's, but that's my personal opinion. Gotta cover my ass there. He's not acting normally at all.

I thought skinship was something they liked to do. This isn't skinship. He's pulling his hand away because it feels weird and he digs his finger in his leg.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1445710344639320065/pu/vid/640x640/K-aA73JQNFmbZatU.mp4?tag=12

 

[tzolld]

I found it. I was right, it's from the skool luv affair special dvd. It starts at the 8:16 mark.
8:54 jk asks can we rest.
They then say they've been practicing the routine for a month even on New Year's.
8:58-9:01 Yn says we spent all our waking hours dancing then yells "let us go home!"
9:20 is where the instructor tells them they have to dance correctly 3 times out of 5 to random music to go home. This being after jhpe said he felt unconscious.

It's made to look like it's funny and they're messing around but if you look behind all that it's really horrible. Even after the dancing game they practice the routine some more. Who knows when they got to actually go home.

Ah, thx for finding the clip. Making people overwork like that should be illegal. The physical (and mental) torture of the k pop industry is really inhumane and above all so unnecessary. Like you can achieve equally mesmerezing choreo by not practising THAT much, in fact youre better when the body is properly rested. After a certain point, it is not longer practise, its just abuse. A couple of asian countries in general (like sk, china, jpn) have a bad problem with inhumane work culture in general. It is really sad.

 

[tzolld]

People would say it's impossible for a celebrity to have serious mental illness but we see it all the time. The structure of being a celebrity let's them function but barely. When they're in different places, they breakdown. I think it's possible he could have a mental illness or Asperger's, but that's my personal opinion. Gotta cover my ass there. He's not acting normally at all.

I thought skinship was something they liked to do. This isn't skinship. He's pulling his hand away because it feels weird and he digs his finger in his leg.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1445710344639320065/pu/vid/640x640/K-aA73JQNFmbZatU.mp4?tag=12

Thats a weird clip !!

 

[Strawberrypie]

Thats a weird clip !!

It's weird because he's always hitting him or annoyed by him, so that surprised me. He really wanted him to stop.

 

[eaisa]

It's weird because he's always hitting him or annoyed by him, so that surprised me. He really wanted him to stop.

i read info that their friendship is very nice, even better than bts. but these clips got me side eyeing that info :/

 

[tzolld]

It's weird because he's always hitting him or annoyed by him, so that surprised me. He really wanted him to stop.

These physical dynamics between them are so weird sometimes. That in itself must f up their sense of personal boundaries so much.
It is very unconfortable seeing these clips of members victimizing other members in what is basically a mild form of sex#ual assaults all the time. The cycle of abuse is at it again..

 

[Strawberrypie]

I found it. I was right, it's from the skool luv affair special dvd. It starts at the 8:16 mark.
8:54 jk asks can we rest.
They then say they've been practicing the routine for a month even on New Year's.
8:58-9:01 Yn says we spent all our waking hours dancing then yells "let us go home!"
9:20 is where the instructor tells them they have to dance correctly 3 times out of 5 to random music to go home. This being after jhpe said he felt unconscious.

It's made to look like it's funny and they're messing around but if you look behind all that it's really horrible. Even after the dancing game they practice the routine some more. Who knows when they got to actually go home.

That's sadistic and I teared up watching kids be forced to dance over and over. They were almost hurting themselves falling everywhere. Their dance teacher is now the performance director. He watched over t×t's recent performance. As a reward, people who stayed with them a long time received promotions. They old manager is head of security at HVBE.

I get a bad feeling watching their old stuff, knowing that small companies are the worst at abusing their trainees and artists. The group Only0neof recently had a member leave two years after debut. With covid it's harder for smaller companies to make money on their groups. Some fans suspect there's more to it, and there could be a bad situation. I get vibes similar to that watching them dance. That group is also the ones behind the famous libido choreography.

Love & Nine libidO cut (Onlyoneof)

It is daring to do, from Song - MV and Choreography like this. Congrats Onlyoneofcr onlyoneof Here's the Guilty Pleasure ver link: https://youtu.be/WdI0uAnTe9M

youtube.com

This is part of their comeback practice.

 

[Strawberrypie]

i read info that their friendship is very nice, even better than bts. but these clips got me side eyeing that info :/

He beats his ass a lot because he's a big pain in the ass. Imitating his parts, annoying him and being the Tae but times 100 means he gets messed up. He runs behind Yj and Sb for attention like a dog. His friend is supposedly Th. They're close and spend time together outside of the group.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Bighit/BTS are very good at what they do,

BTS are really being used and it’s sad

Lol!!! It looked exactly like a belch not a tic…I completely agree with, “ but believe what you want”. Thumbs up! Thanks…

Bighit is good at profiting off their fan's mental illness with btees, or creating it in the case of t×t.

 

[Berrywon88]

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/09/bts-become-shareholders-of-big-hit-entertainment-after-news-of-labels-initial-public-offering

snippet from article:
If registration goes smoothly with the Financial Services Commission and Big Hit Entertainment is listed on the Korea Composite Stock Price Index, the BTS members will receive $7.7 million each, doubling their net worth of $8 million in 2019. Big Hit Entertainment plans to hold 1,426,000 shares, which means BTS will own 33.5% of the label and 6.7% of the total shares.

I was being sarcastic, not literal. I was basically implying that their shares ain't sh!t. A drop in a bucket...6.7% divided by 7 men...don't make me laugh. While bang p*do is what a billionaire??

 

[Strawberrypie]

These physical dynamics between them are so weird sometimes. That in itself must f up their sense of personal boundaries so much.
It is very unconfortable seeing these clips of members victimizing other members in what is basically a mild form of sex#ual assaults all the time. The cycle of abuse is at it again..

Anyone with basic morals and compassion will be disturbed by it. He's a number one offender. Always in their spaces touching or blowing kisses. How does that affect their sense of boundaries and self, along with sexuality? After awhile it's blurred. Sometimes people's private areas are touched. It's too weird.