Why is Feminism much worse than Cancer nowadays that is caused by women which keeps most men single?

[Daze]

Jesus didn’t ask women to be slaves. Re read your Bible.

You should know my book is not the Bible Jess, but if i do recall he did say in Timothy that a woman should not speak over a man, nor expect authority. I can source it if you like?

My problem with feminism is it breaks up the family unit, making man and woman extremely vulnerable. Here, I'll share a famous hadith with you.

The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Satan places his throne over the water and he sends out his troops. The closest to him in rank are the greatest at causing tribulations. One of them says: I have done this and this. Satan says: You have done nothing. Another one says: I did not leave this man alone until I separated him from his wife. Satan embraces him and he says: You have done well.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2813

All one needs to do is step back and see how feminism champions woman removing her clothing or advocating for abortions. Taking on men's roles.. Its easy to see the evil in it, but like i said, pretty much only pious woman speak out against feminism.

Truth is the devil sold you a story that you were oppressed and you need to rise up. We can go into the details but we both know it won't bear any fruit. Too many years of indoctrination to break through as you've been burning bras since the 60's.

Peace.

 

[Cintra]

Hail Eris!

 

[Maldarker]

First time caller, long time listener George.

Just like the Nazi’s you demonize your political opponents as literal demons. It’s how genocides start and what we are seeing in USA with Q and the Republicans party/religious right.

Jesus isn’t coming back. He’s dead. There’s a better chance of the Goddess Venus revealing herself as Lucifer ( although I doubt that too )

This just in! It's not Venus! I repeat it's not Venus! It's the god Saturn! Have no doubt about it!

 

[justjess]

You should know my book is not the Bible Jess, but if i do recall he did say in Timothy that a woman should not speak over a man, nor expect authority. I can source it if you like?

My problem with feminism is it breaks up the family unit, making man and woman extremely vulnerable. Here, I'll share a famous hadith with you.

The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Satan places his throne over the water and he sends out his troops. The closest to him in rank are the greatest at causing tribulations. One of them says: I have done this and this. Satan says: You have done nothing. Another one says: I did not leave this man alone until I separated him from his wife. Satan embraces him and he says: You have done well.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2813

All one needs to do is step back and see how feminism champions woman removing her clothing or advocating for abortions. Taking on men's roles.. Its easy to see the evil in it, but like i said, pretty much only pious woman speak out against feminism.

Truth is the devil sold you a story that you were oppressed and you need to rise up. We can go into the details but we both know it won't bear any fruit. Too many years of indoctrination to break through as you've been burning bras since the 60's.

Peace.

All of the holy books are very similar. None of them requires or demands women be slaves. Jesus’s actual words especially. Some of the books written by men with their own opinions and the Old Testament generally are way harsher to women then jesus himself ever was. Quite frankly I think Jesus would be ashamed of the way women have been spoken of and dealt with in his name.

how exactly does feminism break up the family? Giving women some agency in their own lives shouldn’t have been a threat to families whatsoever - in and of itself it is not. Men having agency was never a threat, was it? Basically women having agency only harms families if 1) they were treated so poorly under the family arrangement that when given agency they want no part of it or 2) it is perceived as a “threat” by men who want to be rulers instead of partners.

god did not tell you to rule over us, he told you to partner with us to build healthy families TOGETHER. It doesn’t work any other way.

the devil also sold me absolutely NOTHING btw. I was forced into a situation - as many other women have been - where the only option was to do shit on my own (whether that be through death, disease, or abandonment and neglect every woman’s situation is different). My family would have been destroyed it I clutched my pearls about it rather than putting my big girl panties on and doing what needed to be done when my husband couldnt. Thank god I was able to work and make a decent wage during the times he couldn’t. Thank god I was able to secure housing and handle financial affairs when he couldn’t. Thank god I didn’t need someone to sign off on every damn decision I made when there was no one there to sign.

I have seen what happened when women weren’t allowed those privileges - it wasn’t pretty, it was toxic and it created a lot of inter generational shit that took decades for my family to dig out of. You guys don’t seem to mind when we are picking up your slack as long as the conditions don’t hurt your ego, for example: “hey we are going to war would you mind handling all our responsibilities here while we are gone for ten years?” Or “hey we met someone else - younger and prettier than you - please take care of these kids on your own cuz I won’t be sending money to support them either”

with great power comes great responsibility, right? If you shirk your responsibility don’t get butthurt when the people you left holding the bag decide to seize some of that power for themselves. You (your gender, not you specifically as I don’t know you) created this and continue to fail to change the conditions under which it arose so the only people you have to be mad at is yourselves. Sorry.

and just for the record my own family is perfectly in tact. I’m married to the father of my two children and have been with him for twenty years. He isn’t threatened by me having agency nor does he resent me being his equal in our partnership. I’m strong where he is weak and Vice versa and we arrange things accordingly - as PARTNERS do. He also is the furthest thing from a simp or beta or whatever else bullshit word you guys want to use for men who don’t hate women nowadays. I’m entirely sure he could kick every man on this forums ass without batting an eye.

 

[KoncreteMind]

Everything I don’t like is of the devil!

No. I’m saying you’re a luciferian

Waah! Society is changing and men can’t dominate women with impunity anymore!

This is as good as it gets for the luciferian simps/feminists. Enjoy it while it lasts because it’s all downhill from here

I’m so sad

Sad? I’m glad your luciferian society is on its last legs and that when it ends you’ll have to abide by reality once again. That’s if you even survive what’s coming

 

[KoncreteMind]

of course!

I know right? Even a computer screen can’t stop the aura that comes off of me huh? lol

 

[KoncreteMind]

god did not tell you to rule over us,

Sure He did:

Genesis 3:16
To the woman he said, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”

 

[Drifter]

Sure He did:

Genesis 3:16
To the woman he said, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”

Oh come on, I'm not even Christian and I know that verse is descriptive and not prescriptive. Besides, even if it were prescriptive, it came post-Fall as part of the curse. If men were created to rule over women then verse 16 wouldnt have come as a "punishment". It would've been part of the natural order.

 

[justjess]

Oh come on, I'm not even Christian and I know that verse is descriptive and not prescriptive. Besides, even if it were prescriptive, it came post-Fall as part of the curse. If men were created to rule over women then verse 16 wouldnt have come as a "punishment". It would've been part of the natural order.

Exactly. We are punished because MEN fucked up. Men continue fucking up so we say “we’ll just handle this on our own” and seize back SOME of the power they were given over us.. and we are the bad guys because of it yet again. It’s always a woman’s fault. Men Apparantly are incapable of taking responsibility and accountability for their own shit ever since the beginning of time.

KM - the rest of the Bible tells you to partner with us, cherish us and treat us with love caring and respect. For some reason certain types of men have selective reading. You aren’t granted the privilege of ruling without earning it. Being born with a cock isn’t an accomplishment.

 

[justjess]

“We must understand that male dominance over women is viewed in the Torah as a deterioration of the human condition. The ideal relationship of men and women described at the outset of the Torah is the equality of the sexes: “Male and female God created them:” (Gen 1:27). That is to say, “Both sexes are created on the sixth day by the hand of the one God; both are made “in God’s image” on a level of absolute equality before God.” (JPS commentary).”

 

[KoncreteMind]

Oh come on, I'm not even Christian and I know that verse is descriptive and not prescriptive. Besides, even if it were prescriptive, it came post-Fall as part of the curse. If men were created to rule over women then verse 16 wouldnt have come as a "punishment". It would've been part of the natural order.

What I posted had nothing to do with Christianity. Either way, pre fall you say?

Genesis 2:18
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

The natural order is for you to help men. Not compete with them as equals. I know I know. The luciferians tell you different. Their rule doesn’t last forever tho

 

[KoncreteMind]

First off the Bible isn’t literally true

I don’t go to Luciferians when it comes to what’s true or not tho...

 

[Cintra]

Being born with a cock isn’t an accomplishment.

Best sentence ever!!!!

 

[KoncreteMind]

Exactly. We are punished because MEN fucked up. Men continue fucking up so we say “we’ll just handle this on our own” and seize back SOME of the power they were given over us.. and we are the bad guys because of it yet again. It’s always a woman’s fault. Men Apparantly are incapable of taking responsibility and accountability for their own shit ever since the beginning of time.

Genesis 2:18
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Lol at women seizing power. It’s all men putting the battery in your back. Once they go bye bye then it’s back to being a help meet. Please go over my head and take it up with the Creator. Bad idea btw to question the way He ordered things, but I’m just saying it’s over my head

KM - the rest of the Bible tells you to partner with us,

Nope

cherish us and treat us with love caring and respect.

Yup

For some reason certain types of men have selective reading. You aren’t granted the privilege of ruling without earning it. Being born with a cock isn’t an accomplishment.

We earn our right to rule from God tho not women lol.

 

[justjess]

What I posted had nothing to do with Christianity. Either way, pre fall you say?

Genesis 2:18
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

The natural order is for you to help men. Not compete with them as equals. I know I know. The luciferians tell you different. Their rule doesn’t last forever tho

The original text of Genesis 2:18 is even more enlightening. According to biblical scholar David Freedman, the Hebrew word translated there into English as “help” is ezer. This word is a combination of two roots, one meaning “to rescue,” “to save,” and the other meaning “to be strong.” Just as the roots merged into one word, so did their meanings. At first ezer meant either “to save” or “to be strong,” but in time, said Freedman, ezer “was always interpreted as ‘to help,’ a mixture of both nuances. Ezer appears twenty-one times in the Old Testament.”
In contrast, k’enegdo, another Hebrew word used in Genesis 2:18 to describe Eve, appears only once. Freedman pointed out that in late rabbinical commentaries k’enegdo means “equal” and stated that in his view “there is no basis for translating k’enegdo as ‘fit’ or ‘appropriate,’ as the traditional translators do when they describe the woman as a ‘fit helper.’” He concluded, “When God creates Eve . . . , His intent is that she will be—unlike the animals—‘a power (or strength) equal to him.’”4
Thus, it seems that through imprecise translation, our understanding of the powerful words used originally to describe Eve’s role have been diminished. As a result, our understanding of the intended role of Mother Eve has also been diminished. Suppose we had all, male and female alike, been taught to understand Genesis 2:18 as something like the following: “It is not good that man should be alone. I will make him a companion of strength and power, who has a saving power and is equal with him.”

Your stubborn refusal to acknowledge your “partners” as equal and yourego based need to be special will see you all rot in hell for creating false images of the god you claim to worship.

 

[KoncreteMind]

Lucifer, Lucifer, Lucifer, Lucifer
Who's been waiting on you
Lucifer, Lucifer, Lucifer, Lucifer
Who's been waiting on you

Demon eyes and demons do
Wait until you come through
To be our leader
We've been waiting on you
For you

Lol yea get it out your system now. You luciferians are losing your ground everyday so might as well right?

 

[justjess]

Genesis 2:18
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Lol at women seizing power. It’s all men putting the battery in your back. Once they go bye bye then it’s back to being a help meet. Please go over my head and take it up with the Creator. Bad idea btw to question the way He ordered things, but I’m just saying it’s over my head


Nope



Yup


We earn our right to rule from God tho not women lol.

God cursed men the same as he cursed women KM. Your bound to hell with the rest of us lest you wise up and figure out what he actually wanted - which it seems you are far from doing.

no man is putting a battery in my back km, when men abdicate their responsibilities (breaking gods orders btw atleast according to your own view) and women step in and handle it instead because someone’s gotta take care of the kids even if daddy can’t be bothered to that is reclaiming power, not being granted it. If you granted it to us you wouldn’t have spent the last 100 years whining that we had it.

 

[Maldarker]

All of the holy books are very similar. None of them requires or demands women be slaves. Jesus’s actual words especially. Some of the books written by men with their own opinions and the Old Testament generally are way harsher to women then jesus himself ever was. Quite frankly I think Jesus would be ashamed of the way women have been spoken of and dealt with in his name.

how exactly does feminism break up the family? Giving women some agency in their own lives shouldn’t have been a threat to families whatsoever - in and of itself it is not. Men having agency was never a threat, was it? Basically women having agency only harms families if 1) they were treated so poorly under the family arrangement that when given agency they want no part of it or 2) it is perceived as a “threat” by men who want to be rulers instead of partners.

god did not tell you to rule over us, he told you to partner with us to build healthy families TOGETHER. It doesn’t work any other way.

the devil also sold me absolutely NOTHING btw. I was forced into a situation - as many other women have been - where the only option was to do shit on my own (whether that be through death, disease, or abandonment and neglect every woman’s situation is different). My family would have been destroyed it I clutched my pearls about it rather than putting my big girl panties on and doing what needed to be done when my husband couldnt. Thank god I was able to work and make a decent wage during the times he couldn’t. Thank god I was able to secure housing and handle financial affairs when he couldn’t. Thank god I didn’t need someone to sign off on every damn decision I made when there was no one there to sign.

I have seen what happened when women weren’t allowed those privileges - it wasn’t pretty, it was toxic and it created a lot of inter generational shit that took decades for my family to dig out of. You guys don’t seem to mind when we are picking up your slack as long as the conditions don’t hurt your ego, for example: “hey we are going to war would you mind handling all our responsibilities here while we are gone for ten years?” Or “hey we met someone else - younger and prettier than you - please take care of these kids on your own cuz I won’t be sending money to support them either”

with great power comes great responsibility, right? If you shirk your responsibility don’t get butthurt when the people you left holding the bag decide to seize some of that power for themselves. You (your gender, not you specifically as I don’t know you) created this and continue to fail to change the conditions under which it arose so the only people you have to be mad at is yourselves. Sorry.

and just for the record my own family is perfectly in tact. I’m married to the father of my two children and have been with him for twenty years. He isn’t threatened by me having agency nor does he resent me being his equal in our partnership. I’m strong where he is weak and Vice versa and we arrange things accordingly - as PARTNERS do. He also is the furthest thing from a simp or beta or whatever else bullshit word you guys want to use for men who don’t hate women nowadays. I’m entirely sure he could kick every man on this forums ass without batting an eye.

Good job! That's what it is it's a partnership - OT look at how it started it where was the rib taken from the side of adam aka side by side man & women not from the back not from the front but the side aka equal. I know i could kick most of your asses its what i use to do. In family husband wife are seen as one not two but one. One is equal no distinction. All you who think women are less should really read the bible & see that it's the stupidness of humanity that put inequality between us. Stop fighting each other we need each other. Do i dare say we compliment each other in ways that alone we aren't complete.

 

[Drifter]

What I posted had nothing to do with Christianity. Either way, pre fall you say?

Genesis 2:18
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

The natural order is for you to help men. Not compete with them as equals. I know I know. The luciferians tell you different. Their rule doesn’t last forever tho

Lmao google what "ezer kenegdo" means in Hebrew. The English translation is inadequate. You continue to consider feminism revolving around the desire to COMPETE with men when it's really about women being able to operate as their own people and not property. Also fun fact: being different doesn't mean there has to be hierarchy. And if you think the strength differential is what makes men "superior" to women. . . Where does this place human in comparison to much stronger animals? The thing which distinguishes humans from animals that are physically superior is not imaged more in men than in women.

 

[KoncreteMind]

The original text of Genesis 2:18 is even more enlightening. According to biblical scholar David Freedman, the Hebrew word translated there into English as “help” is ezer. This word is a combination of two roots, one meaning “to rescue,” “to save,” and the other meaning “to be strong.” Just as the roots merged into one word, so did their meanings. At first ezer meant either “to save” or “to be strong,” but in time, said Freedman, ezer “was always interpreted as ‘to help,’ a mixture of both nuances. Ezer appears twenty-one times in the Old Testament.”
In contrast, k’enegdo, another Hebrew word used in Genesis 2:18 to describe Eve, appears only once. Freedman pointed out that in late rabbinical commentaries k’enegdo means “equal” and stated that in his view “there is no basis for translating k’enegdo as ‘fit’ or ‘appropriate,’ as the traditional translators do when they describe the woman as a ‘fit helper.’” He concluded, “When God creates Eve . . . , His intent is that she will be—unlike the animals—‘a power (or strength) equal to him.’”4
Thus, it seems that through imprecise translation, our understanding of the powerful words used originally to describe Eve’s role have been diminished. As a result, our understanding of the intended role of Mother Eve has also been diminished. Suppose we had all, male and female alike, been taught to understand Genesis 2:18 as something like the following: “It is not good that man should be alone. I will make him a companion of strength and power, who has a saving power and is equal with him.”

Your stubborn refusal to acknowledge your “partners” as equal and yourego based need to be special will see you all rot in hell for creating false images of the god you claim to worship.

Ezer is translated as helper. Nothing about equality when you’re the help right? Still don’t buy it?

Genesis 2
But for Adam[f] no suitable helper(AK) was found. 21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep;(AL) and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[g] and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[h](AM) he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

Adam was made from the earth and you were made from Adam. You’re not equal to Adam. You can look at yourself as equal or even above Adam but the world and most importantly God will NEVER look at you as equal to the man . And by the way I’m talking equal in PURPOSE not VALUE.

Here’s one more since I assume you self identify as a xtian:
1 Cor 11:9
Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.

You were created to help us not compete with us. And one day you (as in the general woman who is blessed enough to make it thru whatever it is that is on the way) you’ll help us again. And when you do you’ll see how much easier your life is made