2020 General Election Thread

[vancityeagle]

Are you for real? Every time I post anything about trump you either shrug it off, ignore it completely or scream fake news. Over the last four years (really more because of the election season prior to him winning) there have been thousands of posts about his corruption and wrong doings. You guys just don’t care. Then you pull this fake bs nonsense that no one has provided it. Yes. Yes they have. I have. You don’t care lol. He admitted to murder the other day. Start there. Oh wait... you won’t because you have no issue with it. The Chinese bank account? Not paying any taxes for ten years in this country while paying hundreds of thousands to other countries? Charging the secret service outrageous rates to stay at HIS hotels while he golfs? I’m not even scratching the surface or getting into more involved stuff because I know there is no point.

Provide all the evidence in the world, and they just brush it off. They're living in another dimension where reality is inverted. Theres no point in debate.

Yes he literally admitted to murder the other day, that would be huge news under any other president, but with Trump its just one of hundreds of messed up stories.

 

[Artful Revealer]

I think it's safe to say November 3rd is the end of Sleepy Joe's political career and he'll have all the time to snooze during his retirement.
Until his trials for high treason start.

 

[justjess]

I don’t use that term, but the concept used to be the prevalent opinion on this board. The news is fake. Are you saying it’s not?

For the last week, we’ve watched as Big Media has covered up a huge corruption story about the Biden family. Each day, new evidence and more importantly, on-the-record eyewitnesses add to the veracity of the story. But the media says it’s not a story, and so do you. You say it’s fake news.

Russia collusion was fake news. Kavanaugh the rapist was fake news. Biden’s not corrupt, but Trump is. Fake news. And you should know that.

Trump is the best president America has ever had. You are unaware of this because you believe the lies the media is telling you. If you don’t, why do you spread them?

It’s shocking to see CNN’s version of the truth being passed on this board as counter-culture wokeness, but that doesn’t mean I have to take it seriously.

As compared to Fox News’s version? I literally just gave you three things backed by undebatable fact with no opinion involved. This isn’t fake news. The first was RECORDED with him knowing it was recorded. The rest have receipts. I don’t care about the spin, I care about the facts.

show me where I called the Biden story fake news. I didn’t. I said it is suspect. Anyone with half a brain can deduce it’s suspect.

they are all clowns. Please don’t tell me who the best president ever is in my own country as if your some sort of authority on the matter. Half the country disagrees and it’s not because of the news, it’s because of the state of their own lives. Good for you if your 401k or investments have done well, congrats! MOST OF US CANT AFFORD THAT WIN. And congratulations that he’s handing you your very own Israeli wishlist, but he’s doing so with MY tax dollars and without my consent or approval.

Tell me what trump has done that’s sooo spectacular for me in my life. An actual middle class American citizen. If you can come up with something that isn’t absolute bullshit maybe I’ll reconsider.

 

[polymoog]

The GLOBAL pandemic? If Biden wins and it actually disappears I’ll gladly admit I was wrong. Until then considering it’s a global situation I’m going to stay out of my American narcissistic bubble and not assume it is for something as lame as the election of our president.

it wont disappear until they say its over on MSM although in reality, no one would have known there was a pandemic if we werent beaten over the head with it every hour of the day by MSM.

they cannot usher in all of their BS-19 agendas without removing trump. he is too much of a wild card for them since hes been a long time anti-vaxxer (look it up). the US democrats, whether they know it or not, are proxies for the NWO as they help push this mask mandate garbage, the extended lockdowns, and all of these other restrictions "for our safety". whatever trump did or did not do, the dems blame trump for it, even if he took all of his directives from fauchi and the CDC. without BS-19, what else do the dems have on trump? charlottesville comments? being "racist"?

its not an american narcissistic bubble. the US is the main battleground since america has most of the elite players who have a financial stake controlling things: bill gates, jeff bezos, soros, etc. what the US does, most of the world copies. there are not just americans on this thread-- that should tell you something.

 

[polymoog]

Good for you if your 401k or investments have done well, congrats! MOST OF US CANT AFFORD THAT WIN.

meanwhile, joe biden wants to extend the lockdowns. think that will help you afford anything?
ireland stands to lose 150,000 jobs now with their new lockdown based on fraudulent cases.

 

[polymoog]

The more Biden talks, the emptier he looks. Trump is benefiting from this format.

trump couldve done better. biden left himself wide open for big shots, but trump missed several times.
all trump had to do was say, "i will not make these vaccines mandatory, but joe will!" to have many democrats flip. nobody wants the vax.

trump won, although biden didnt embarrass himself. bidens drugs were wearing off towards the end as he started to lose it. the mute button format actually favored trump and kept him from looking like a bully.

did it sway any voters? i think not.

 

[Tidal]

I just watched the final debate, and whereas I'd previously thought Trump was bound to be re-elected, now I'm not so sure!
Biden came across as a warm fluffy "everybody's favourite uncle" type, always smiling, never getting nasty, so I wouldn't be surprised if Americans put him in the White House to radiate that soft warmth across the nation in these tough covid times..

 

[polymoog]

I just watched the final debate, and whereas I'd previously thought Trump was bound to be re-elected, now I'm not so sure!
Biden came across as a warm fluffy "everybody's favourite uncle" type, always smiling, never getting nasty, so I wouldn't be surprised if Americans put him in the White House to radiate that soft warmth across the nation in these tough covid times..

were you swayed?

 

[vancityeagle]

Unless its an absolute blowout this election will come down to who can cheat and use underhanded tactics the best. Lots of shenanigans to happen in the swing states. Voter suppression will be the biggest factor as it usually is.

Oh and the electoral college needs to be scrapped. Anybody not making this a serious focus does not give a crap about democracy.

 

[Artful Revealer]

Unless its an absolute blowout this election will come down to who can cheat and use underhanded tactics the best. Lots of shenanigans to happen in the swing states. Voter suppression will be the biggest factor as it usually is.

Oh and the electoral college needs to be scrapped. Anybody not making this a serious focus does not give a crap about democracy.

Sure, because LA and NY deciding the president every 4 years is democratic as hell. One really has to be a stuck-up cosmopolitan to think the electoral college is what prevents democracy.

 

[Artful Revealer]

I just watched the final debate, and whereas I'd previously thought Trump was bound to be re-elected, now I'm not so sure!
Biden came across as a warm fluffy "everybody's favourite uncle" type, always smiling, never getting nasty, so I wouldn't be surprised if Americans put him in the White House to radiate that soft warmth across the nation in these tough covid times..

I cannot for one moment imagine Biden swayed any neutral voter in that debate.

 

[justjess]

it wont disappear until they say its over on MSM although in reality, no one would have known there was a pandemic if we werent beaten over the head with it every hour of the day by MSM.

they cannot usher in all of their BS-19 agendas without removing trump. he is too much of a wild card for them since hes been a long time anti-vaxxer (look it up). the US democrats, whether they know it or not, are proxies for the NWO as they help push this mask mandate garbage, the extended lockdowns, and all of these other restrictions "for our safety". whatever trump did or did not do, the dems blame trump for it, even if he took all of his directives from fauchi and the CDC. without BS-19, what else do the dems have on trump? charlottesville comments? being "racist"?

its not an american narcissistic bubble. the US is the main battleground since america has most of the elite players who have a financial stake controlling things: bill gates, jeff bezos, soros, etc. what the US does, most of the world copies. there are not just americans on this thread-- that should tell you something.

Poly... China shut down first, then parts of Europe. America never even had a nationwide shut down or mandate of any sort. While typically the rest of the world follows us that hasn’t been the case so far on this issue. And yes we have elite players living here but those elite players are GLOBAL elite. They use the United States for their purposes but this isn’t their true “home” in the way your making it out to be.

trump has not disrupted anything.. he appointed the people who made the rules. He’s using the military to deploy the vaccine. He’s engaging in double speak around the whole issue and has been for a long time. Part of me even wonders if all these assholes did it on purpose and in concert to purposely crash the economy for more mundane purposes... snap up failing businesses and real estate for pennies on the dollar, profit off investments in the companies chosen for contracts to “combat the virus” etc.

Have you ever read gone with the wind? Rhett butler has a line.. “I told you once before that there were two times for making big money, one in the up-building of a country and the other in its destruction. Slow money on the up-building, fast money in the crack-up. Remember my words. Perhaps they may be of use to you some day. “ It’s been years since I read it but for some reason my mind keeps pulling me back to that.. look at how much all these elite assholes have made over the past year. If you think trump is somehow above that or not also benefiting himself..

This entire theory that your presenting falls apart if Biden wins and the virus drags on. Or if trump wins and it disappears. Until we can see for ourselves if one of those things happens... it’s speculation. And I’m skeptical.

and for the last time (hopefully) I am not a democrat. I have no love for the US Democrats as they are all just a differently costumed version of the same bullshit.

It’s a sad thing for me to see so many smart people who for years have been able to see through the political theater/farce suddenly fall under the spell of a conman and think that somehow this time it’s different. It isn’t. It’s the same game with a different face because they knew they had to change it up.. people were getting too wise to their shit.

 

[justjess]

Sure, because LA and NY deciding the president every 4 years is democratic as hell. One really has to be a stuck-up cosmopolitan to think the electoral college is what prevents democracy.

The majority of people should decide the president every four years. Regardless of where they live. The majority is the majority. This isn’t complicated.

 

[justjess]

meanwhile, joe biden wants to extend the lockdowns. think that will help you afford anything?
ireland stands to lose 150,000 jobs now with their new lockdown based on fraudulent cases.

So you can’t tell me one thing trump has done to benefit me and since I see thunder actively liking posts at this time I imagine he can’t either otherwise he would have made the argument.

I’m used to my income varying. It’s been a constant theme since the crash of 08. You learn to live with it. I’m probably out of a job as of Wednesday and it has nothing to do with either presidential candidate or even the politicians in my state. It’s an independent decision of the school boards of all the county schools. I will know on Monday night.

this entire conversation is a deflection btw. It didn’t answer my post or my question. Just switched topics. In my mind the only reason we did things the way we did was so “they” would have an excuse to drag this out forever and maximize the damage. If it’s really dangerous we should have done a brief nationwide shutdown with mass testing and quarantine for those who needed it back in March before opening back up in April while keeping the borders sealed completely to anyone who didn’t participate in that exercise. No in, no out. If it isn’t really dangerous then we don’t need any of this. Either way the path they took seems designed for nothing but destruction.

on the plus side no state or federal government can shut down heating services in Northeast PA during the winter so.. I’ll be “fine”

also just for the record when I say most people can’t afford that - I’m not talking about myself necessarily. I’m talking about the majority of Americans based on reliable economic statistics. So it’s a very myopic view to think trump has benefitted America or Americans in general because the stock market was soaring at some point.

 

[polymoog]

Poly... China shut down first, then parts of Europe. America never even had a nationwide shut down or mandate of any sort. While typically the rest of the world follows us that hasn’t been the case so far on this issue. And yes we have elite players living here but those elite players are GLOBAL elite. They use the United States for their purposes but this isn’t their true “home” in the way your making it out to be.

UK, NZ, australia: its an absolute disaster in those countries (esp. australia) with respect to lockdowns and covid "response". canada looks terrible as well with the possibility of UN troops moving in to help control the situation. the US is the only one not doing that, and its because trump is preventing it. if biden gets in, its over. he admitted it clearly: he is in favor of locking us down and a mask mandate (even though everyone knows it both do not work).

Part of me even wonders if all these assholes did it on purpose and in concert to purposely crash the economy for more mundane purposes... snap up failing businesses and real estate for pennies on the dollar, profit off investments in the companies chosen for contracts to “combat the virus” etc.

of course they did.

This entire theory that your presenting falls apart if Biden wins and the virus drags on. Or if trump wins and it disappears. Until we can see for ourselves if one of those things happens... it’s speculation. And I’m skeptical.

biden nor trump does not control the BS-19 narrative. they simply react to it. trump made it clear he wants the country opened up; biden wants it locked down because everyone tests positive.

look at how much all these elite assholes have made over the past year. If you think trump is somehow above that or not also benefiting himself..

yes, they made 10+ trillion. trump couldve swept in and bought up all of that real estate in NYC and minneapolis and made money. he could make even more money if he imposed a long quarantine and a lockdown, so why hasnt he?

and for the last time (hopefully) I am not a democrat. I have no love for the US Democrats as they are all just a differently costumed version of the same bullshit.

i am not a republican, either.

It’s a sad thing for me to see so many smart people who for years have been able to see through the political theater/farce suddenly fall under the spell of a conman and think that somehow this time it’s different. It isn’t. It’s the same game with a different face because they knew they had to change it up.. people were getting too wise to their shit.

and for the last time (hopefully) i have no illusions about politicians. but trump is anti lockdown, against the climate change psy-op, and hes doing something when it comes to child trafficking. a friends brother is a US air marshal-- he couldnt do much under the obama admin, but trump cut through a lot of red tape and although ive forgotten the fine details, hes been able to bring more to justice.
even if he doesnt do squat about human trafficking, he brings it up when no other politician is.
if trump puts the brakes on any NWO agenda, whether hes is a 'white hat' or a narcissist, he is the best choice for us.

 

[Artful Revealer]

Did you miss the part where Trump said he had a general and the military ready for the vaccination? What you think they are just going to ask you nicely?

In the words of an average Joe: Come on, man! How poorly do you understand the situation or Trump if you think he will force the vaccine? What do you think his Regeneron was for if not an insurance? Pay close attention. His Operation Warpspeed is not popular among his base. He knows this, just check the reactions during his rallies. It is clear as day that the true threat of mandatory vaccination comes with a Biden election.

People keep making claims. We need more bets and accountability. Anyone wanna bet on this?

 

[Artful Revealer]

Regeneron was a stock manipulation ploy.

Who cares if he’s getting billions from China to hand it out to Americans? So you wanna bet on your claim?

 

[justjess]

UK, NZ, australia: its an absolute disaster in those countries (esp. australia) with respect to lockdowns and covid "response". canada looks terrible as well with the possibility of UN troops moving in to help control the situation. the US is the only one not doing that, and its because trump is preventing it. if biden gets in, its over. he admitted it clearly: he is in favor of locking us down and a mask mandate (even though everyone knows it both do not work).



of course they did.


biden nor trump does not control the BS-19 narrative. they simply react to it. trump made it clear he wants the country opened up; biden wants it locked down because everyone tests positive.


yes, they made 10+ trillion. trump couldve swept in and bought up all of that real estate in NYC and minneapolis and made money. he could make even more money if he imposed a long quarantine and a lockdown, so why hasnt he?


i am not a republican, either.


and for the last time (hopefully) i have no illusions about politicians. but trump is anti lockdown, against the climate change psy-op, and hes doing something when it comes to child trafficking. a friends brother is a US air marshal-- he couldnt do much under the obama admin, but trump cut through a lot of red tape and although ive forgotten the fine details, hes been able to bring more to justice.
even if he doesnt do squat about human trafficking, he brings it up when no other politician is.
if trump puts the brakes on any NWO agenda, whether hes is a 'white hat' or a narcissist, he is the best choice for us.

Right.. which is why I said I do not think this pandemic/scamdemic whatever is focused on the us or mostly about the us or centered around the us. Trump isn’t some last ditch savior Standing between the scam and some horrific outcome. He’s just another player IN IT. Controlled op or whatever you want to call it.

trump is pending reelection and has a voter base that will not vote for him if he says he wants lockdowns and masks and vaccines. That does not mean the words coming out of his mouth are promises you can count on holding him to. He would be a second term president and there will be no reason to continue appeasing his base if he wins. So, we will see. I think your dead wrong personally. But we will see.

also - lockdowns aren’t exactly fantastic for the hotel industry last time I checked. And housing prices haven’t ranked yet.

 

[justjess]

Who cares if he’s getting billions from China to hand it out to Americans? So you wanna bet on your claim?

You all seem to care if Biden even gets $1 trom China..: so it’s kinda warped you wouldn’t care if trump was getting billions.

 

[Tidal]

were you swayed?

Nah, I'm English and can't vote anyway, but if I was a yank I'd vote for Trump because he's great entertainment..
(And BTW he's half-British himself)
I think Biden will appeal more to dear old grannies, grandads and soft liberals.
If he gets into the WH it'll be interesting to see if world leaders run rings round him like they could never do with Trump..