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Wow, she looks so innocent and kind, when I listened to kpop she was my favorite soloist, what a pity.
Reading about this subject, I remembered a scary UI mv called "lost child", the color palette is strange and has creatures crawling across the floor. (1:00)
I checked what age she started in the industry and she was 14??!! Wow they really pick them at such a young age. She reminds me a lot of Ariana. A lot of symbolism in her songs (I don’t know any of her songs but from the posts on here) and Ariana also had a lot of “sacrifices” linked to her. In the industry there are the “Sullis “ and the “Goo Haras” who break free from programming and want to expose the industry (Goo Hara had information on the Seungri burning sun case But died before she could rev al” and then there are the “ius” and “Jennies” who have all the riches of fame and are at the top. Both these type were programmed and abused from a young age but some had a moral compass and others didn’t or were too high up to ever leave. It’s hard imagining these people as evil because they have this innocent vibe about them that western artists don’t have
 

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Wow, she looks so innocent and kind, when I listened to kpop she was my favorite soloist, what a pity.
Reading about this subject, I remembered a scary UI mv called "lost child", the color palette is strange and has creatures crawling across the floor. (1:00)
Innocent? No. Kind? Maybe. Never heard too much about her other than the fact that she's Jk's Ideal Type.
There are lots of controversial/scandals about her. But 2 biggest scandals are

Eun_hyuk & I_U Scandal: "in 2012, She accidentally uploaded a photo together with Super_Juni0r member Eun_hyuk. She was wearing pajamas. People claimed Eun-hyuk seemed like half naked on the photo. They were bashed even more after the given explanation when they said Eun_hyuk just came to visit I_U who was sick that time ."

promoting "Lolita concept" scandal : she take the biggest damage from this scandal.


After lolit@ scandal, she waited 2 years and returned with "palette" song collaborating with G_D (one of the most famous rapper in korea). Then she continue collaborating with famous rappers (zic0 and later sug@).

bonus:

J@ng Woo_young scandal aka rip_eye incident:

On April 11th, 2_PM's Woo_young guested on SBS's "Night by Night" and shared some stories about himself and his "Dream High" co-star, I_U.
"Wooyoung began, "At the time of 'Dream High', I worked really hard to get closer with IU. People said that she was shy, so before the drama began, I asked Seulong, who's close with IU, to send a text message to her for me. However, IU sent a text back to Seulong saying, 'I probably won't get close with Wooyoung even until the last episode.'I was really hurt at the time." Afterwards, the two eventually met away from the film set in order to get closer.
Wooyoung revealed, "For our first meal, we sat at separate tables and just concentrated on eating because we weren't that close at the time.
For our second meal, we went to eat rib eye, which as you know, is very expensive. I suggested that we go eat something else like samgyupsal, but IU insisted on buying."
Unfortunately, including the staff members, the total bill came out to $600 USD. "IU told me, 'If oppa pays for this while I go to the bathroom, you'll be an amazing person to me.' I felt that I had finally gotten close with her, and maybe this was my chance to be that 'amazing person.'I was a bit worried, though, because it was so expensive." While IU went to the bathroom, Wooyoung continued, "My manager poked me and said that this was too much for her to foot, and for us to just pay for her.I said no, let's just let her pay. I said, 'Hyung, you should respect the person's decision if they want to pay!' Eventually, we ended up splitting the bill between the agency and me, which IU had no idea about. IU later told me that she was actually joking about that statement and that she hadn't meant it. Wooyoung concluded, "I later received 10 texts from IU after that, all of which said, 'Unfair, unfair, unfair, unfair, unfair! I was going to pay the bill!'" With a laugh, he added, "I felt like I had been played! But through that, we became a lot closer and were able to conclude the drama on a friendly note."

comment about incident:
[+698, -26] What actually happened during the Jang Wooyoung scandal: 1. Wooyoung bought IU a meal at a family restaurant. He tried to get close to her by buying her a meal but they ended up awkwardly eating at separate tables. 2. IU offered to treat him and ordered rib eyes, which are expensive. Jang Wooyoung was taken aback. IU then texted him saying, 'If oppa buys this for me while I'm in the bathroom, I'll consider you ar eally cool person'. Jang Wooyoung's taken aback again. His manager suggests that they should buy it, but Wooyoung refuses. Manager succeeds in persuading him so JYP paid half and Wooyoung paid off. 3. At the Dream High concert, rumor got out that Wooyoung and IU shared a meal together. Wooyoung explained exactly what happened in #1 but IU went around saying, 'Wooyoung oppa voluntarily bought me expensive rib eye' making it sound like he liked her. 4. IU talked about that all over radio and broadcast, in all her interviews. Jang Wooyoung's image turned into some sleazy guy who tried to hit on a high schooler. 5. Jang Wooyoung had to clarify what actually happened on all of his TV shows.



I think I_U's case is very good example for that images or concepts of idols can be very deceptive.
Thats true, alot of people (especially K-pop Idols) can be very deceptive, Having a so-called "innocent" persona/image that contradicts who they really are as a person. ( Ex. Why do you think some A.R.M.Y.S/Fandoms find it so hard to believe that their faves aren't who they think they are? Because of the nice person/innocent persona that they have which manipulates people in disbelieving the truth.)
I checked what age she started in the industry and she was 14??!! Wow they really pick them at such a young age. She reminds me a lot of Ariana. A lot of symbolism in her songs (I don’t know any of her songs but from the posts on here) and Ariana also had a lot of “sacrifices” linked to her. In the industry there are the “Sullis “ and the “Goo Haras” who break free from programming and want to expose the industry (Goo Hara had information on the Seungri burning sun case But died before she could rev al” and then there are the “ius” and “Jennies” who have all the riches of fame and are at the top. Both these type were programmed and abused from a young age but some had a moral compass and others didn’t or were too high up to ever leave. It’s hard imagining these people as evil because they have this innocent vibe about them that western artists don’t have
Right? And the fact that the people with morals & common sense have to suffer/ be killed off/hurt/ etc
is sad
 
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Innocent? No. Kind? Maybe. Never heard too much about her other than the fact that she's Jk's Ideal Type.

Thats true, alot of people (especially K-pop Idols) can be very deceptive, Having a so-called "innocent" persona/image that contradicts who they really are as a person. ( Ex. Why do you think some A.R.M.Y.S/Fandoms find it so hard to believe that their faves aren't who they think they are? Because of the nice person/innocent persona that they have which manipulates people in disbelieving that truth.)
According to saesang info, she's very bossy and annoying.
 
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In one Vl!ve J!m!n make a joke at j!ns bday he wanted to name the game room: until j!n turns 30. Than j!n answer you want me to live till i turn 30?
Idk if this a hint or just joke. But i find this so strange that j!m!n make this kind of joke on j!ns bday.
I don't like those types of jokes. Gym-in might have been hinting Gin's possible sacrifice...
 
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BTS V INNER CHILD ANALYSIS
Inner child by V in its lyrical and linguistic form is a song V is writing to his younger self.. it’s kind of a reflection on what he has been through and it’s trying to come to a closure and convince the fans that V is now happy. But I don’t think he really is.. the hidden symbolism shows that he is carrying on and trying to be happy to maintain his persona and make fans not suspicious of his character change. But we don’t know if he is really happy. These are some of the lyrics that stood out

The you of that time didn’t believe in a galaxy, but I saw it, a silver galaxy” - Symbolically galaxy means dreams and hopes for the future. So the V back then didn’t think his dreams would be fulfilled but then he saw how he became famous and how his life changed. There is a recurring theme of light in this song also which relates to the galaxy and being shown his dreams ( perhaps he already knew he would be famous because his success was already planned by the elite )

“It must have been painful because I ran, chasing after an endless light” - here he
Is talking about the struggles he faced as a boy in Seoul trying to be a member of this group but the meaning of endless light refers to freemasonry and how he was waiting to be illuminated and without that he was struggling. In freemasonry light holds a lot of power. “Seeing light” is the start of an initiation process so him chasing after this light means it took him time and pain to reach this light or this degree in freemasonry. He had to do many rituals involving light as the source of truth and wisdom. Maybe it took him time to become a magician (I think he was born into the occult and didn’t realise what he was doing until later... but now he’s part of this cult)

“We gon change” - This shows that his persona and mk ultra ran out and also the fact that he finally understood that he sacrificed all these people for Fame and partook in all these rituals he has changed and he is no longer the innocent Tae.

“The you of yesterday now I see it all The many thorns in the budding rose” -In freemasonry the rose symbolises light and the renewal of life. So perhaps this indicates his jk ultra personas and how he began to create new ones. The growth could also link to him growing and understanding where his and what he’s been doing this whole time. The symbolism of thorns reveals the obstacles and the sacrifices he made for the fame (aka the rose ) to grow. These thorns hurt him but he had to suffer so that BTS would be where they are. The rose also symbolises secrecy and the fact that when you’re part of the illuminati you take an oath of silence. If that is broken you will be in danger. Thorn represents pain and pleasure. V had to go through pain to seek pleasure of fame.

“A smiling child - A child who smiled brightly - when I see that I keep smiling” - this symbolises How his innocence faded. At this time around debut time he was innocent and he didn’t understand he was a mk ultra slave but he lost his innocence now. He is trying to say here that he is told to maintain this happy persona when he knows now the dark truth he didn’t know back then. But when he looks back he has to carry on even though the smiles aren’t as pure as they are now because now he’s in pain from losing people he loved and realising he’s trapped in this illuminati world.

“I reach out to touch my hand to you can you hold that hand - I’ll become you” another mk ultra reference. It seems like he was struggling to keep his happy persona because he’s no longer happy and has realised what he’s been through and what he’s done but now he’s being told to become that Tae again because that’s the Tae that everyone likes (he lost a lot of his fans when he became distant and cold)

“ look at the galaxy, face those stars, I’ll give your the world” - in this song older Tae is talking to his younger self. Perhaps back then Tae didn’t want to be initiated or illuminated but he did because he was given the world of fame and riches.The Tae back then wasn’t famous but he was happy. The Tae now is famous but is sad.

“The lights that illuminated your eyes are the me of right now” here he is telling himself that because he joined the cult With the others hes
The successful Tae of today.

Basically this song is his older self reassuring his younger self that he made the right decision even though back then he doubted if he should go ahead and become part of this illuminati fame. His older self realises what he chose and suffers from it probably with guilt. He begins to change because of the grief and guilt but he’s trying to tell himself that it’s ok

it’s such a bittersweet song because he’s not happy but he tries to be because to him it’s too late to ever turn back - it’s also to make the fans stop speculating and make them think that he’s ok now @Kathyyy I hope this helps
 
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BTS V INNER CHILD ANALYSIS
Inner child by V in its lyrical and linguistic form is a song V is writing to his younger self.. it’s kind of a reflection on what he has been through and it’s trying to come to a closure and convince the fans that V is now happy. But I don’t think he really is.. the hidden symbolism shows that he is carrying on and trying to be happy to maintain his persona and make fans not suspicious of his character change. But we don’t know if he is really happy. These are some of the lyrics that stood out

The you of that time didn’t believe in a galaxy, but I saw it, a silver galaxy” - Symbolically galaxy means dreams and hopes for the future. So the V back then didn’t think his dreams would be fulfilled but then he saw how he became famous and how his life changed. There is a recurring theme of light in this song also which relates to the galaxy and being shown his dreams ( perhaps he already knew he would be famous because his success was already planned by the elite )

“It must have been painful because I ran, chasing after an endless light” - here he
Is talking about the struggles he faced as a boy in Seoul trying to be a member of this group but the meaning of endless light refers to freemasonry and how he was waiting to be illuminated and without that he was struggling. In freemasonry light holds a lot of power. “Seeing light” is the start of an initiation process so him chasing after this light means it took him time and pain to reach this light or this degree in freemasonry. He had to do many rituals involving light as the source of truth and wisdom. Maybe it took him time to become a magician (I think he was born into the occult and didn’t realise what he was doing until later... but now he’s part of this cult)

“We gon change” - This shows that his persona and mk ultra ran out and also the fact that he finally understood that he sacrificed all these people for Fame and partook in all these rituals he has changed and he is no longer the innocent Tae.

“The you of yesterday now I see it all The many thorns in the budding rose” -In freemasonry the rose symbolises light and the renewal of life. So perhaps this indicates his jk ultra personas and how he began to create new ones. The growth could also link to him growing and understanding where his and what he’s been doing this whole time. The symbolism of thorns reveals the obstacles and the sacrifices he made for the fame (aka the rose ) to grow. These thorns hurt him but he had to suffer so that BTS would be where they are. The rose also symbolises secrecy and the fact that when you’re part of the illuminati you take an oath of silence. If that is broken you will be in danger. Thorn represents pain and pleasure. V had to go through pain to seek pleasure of fame.

“A smiling child - A child who smiled brightly - when I see that I keep smiling” - this symbolises How his innocence faded. At this time around debut time he was innocent and he didn’t understand he was a mk ultra slave but he lost his innocence now. He is trying to say here that he is told to maintain this happy persona when he knows now the dark truth he didn’t know back then. But when he looks back he has to carry on even though the smiles aren’t as pure as they are now because now he’s in pain from losing people he loved and realising he’s trapped in this illuminati world.

“I reach out to touch my hand to you can you hold that hand - I’ll become you” another mk ultra reference. It seems like he was struggling to keep his happy persona because he’s no longer happy and has realised what he’s been through and what he’s done but now he’s being told to become that Tae again because that’s the Tae that everyone likes (he lost a lot of his fans when he became distant and cold)

“ look at the galaxy, face those stars, I’ll give your the world” - in this song older Tae is talking to his younger self. Perhaps back then Tae didn’t want to be initiated or illuminated but he did because he was given the world of fame and riches.The Tae back then wasn’t famous but he was happy. The Tae now is famous but is sad.

“The lights that illuminated your eyes are the me of right now” here he is telling himself that because he joined the cult With the others hes
The successful Tae of today.

Basically this song is his older self reassuring his younger self that he made the right decision even though back then he doubted if he should go ahead and become part of this illuminati fame. His older self realises what he chose and suffers from it probably with guilt. He begins to change because of the grief and guilt but he’s trying to tell himself that it’s ok

it’s such a bittersweet song because he’s not happy but he tries to be because to him it’s too late to ever turn back - it’s also to make the fans stop speculating and make them think that he’s ok now @Kathyyy I hope this helps
Yikes.

I honestly feel bad but at the same time im disgusted. the tae back then radiated so much positive energy now he gives me twisted vibes.
 
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Is it only me but are Sugas raps really disturbing. In so many of his raps he talks about leaving and giving it all up because he’s scared of the future. He always talks about living his dreams and having everything he wanted but is scared he’s gone too far and he’s scared of the fall - wth are Bighit planning with BTS.. I’m honestly scared because from their song lyrics to their storyline I feel like something bad will happen to them
 
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In one Vl!ve J!m!n make a joke at j!ns bday he wanted to name the game room: until j!n turns 30. Than j!n answer you want me to live till i turn 30?
Idk if this a hint or just joke. But i find this so strange that j!m!n make this kind of joke on j!ns bday.
what? thats so wrong...I always get very wrong vibe from jimin...he is truly evil joking on jin death
this is just show the fake relation they have so called family
 
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Wow....This could be some sort of predictive programming. Before the illuminati do something they show subliminal messages of that so the world can prepare for the thing to happen subconsciously. For example prior to 9/11 they had many signs showing the twin towers collapsing for example here:

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so before 9/11 happened they already got people to see this and get used to the reality. They’d already planned this attack so it wasn’t anything new. Now by them doing this with Jin and V and jk with the car crash I am wondering if this is also predictive programming. If fans are subconsciously seeing Jin missing it would be easier to accept if he is a sacrificed. Same with JK and his car crash - if this happens again fans will have a better chance of accepting this It makes the idea of one of the members being sacrificed more believable it’s truly scary

Also guys, what do you think of the fact that BTS could be transgender. I was reading the other thread about this and I am doubting this but idk, do you think they are because I don’t know what to think then
 
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I saw a video talking about BTS being transgender a few days ago, I don't really know, they are male in baby pictures, in addition to male body structure and other factors.
I doubt Jimin, because his name is female, his voice and his body structure too, but I remember 2014 where he struggled to have a spotted body and his body was undoubtedly male, idkView attachment 40333View attachment 40334
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Plz dont call someone trangender without any evidence.how can someone so easily say this. Think if someone calls us transgender what would we think. These celebrities go into depression bcz of such comments. Im not hating anyone. But be logical. Moreover they have male voices.
Ahh.. no no one was trying to defame any of the members here. I don’t think they are transgender either but I heard a lot about how the illuminati like to reverse their babies genders because it goes with their religion. Because BTS are part of Satanism I asked what others thought of this theory as it is only a theory. A lot of transgenders who changed their gender young are able to block hormones and with practice can create convincing voices of their new gender so it is possible! The satanist elite are sick and so it is a possibility a lot of Kpop artists especially those who were moonchildren are transgender
 
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Ikr I CACKLED at purple you witch lmao it's perfect

Yeahh but I guess it's cus we think jn's time here is limited so we're sort of cutting him some slack...

Btw I've got a question. Is it only the singers themselves that are sacrificed? What about the managers, the ones that are involved in the cult themselves? Like is there no chance that Hitboy will get sacrificed?
Old post but I think sometimes behind the scenes managers and producers are killed too. I don’t know if this is a sacrifice but a producer
For a show here in the uk called Capital FM passed away suddenly and the weirdest thing is he was 27... he didn’t have no underlying health problems I don’t think and the host roman kemp said it was a sudden death. Capital FM is one of the most popular radio shows here and has a lot of celebrities who this producer would always greet them first. Idk If this is a coincidence but it’s so weird really
 
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Have you guys heard of Kim... she is an mk ultra slave and honestly it was heartbreaking watching this video. Her alter Ria has painted such horrific paintings of being a child sex slave and Kim isn’t able to remember any of this trauma. Looking at those painting was so traumatising and I can’t imagine what she had to go through. I started to cry when she said she couldn’t remember giving birth to her daughter but that she’s still her mother - this shouldn’t happen to no human I’m actually so angry and frustrated that people go through this

back to BTS, their trauma must be a lot too. I think their demonic alter is always on especially on performances as they look so creepy. And when they’re in America their sex slave alters. @reign did a brilliant video on her YouTube channel talking about how Jonghyun was sacrificed. His handler was likely to have swapped Jonghyun’s alter to make him kill himself and then even though he wasn’t dead in the ambulance a drug was injected. I can’t wrap my head around this seriously it makes me so so so angry.

In Shadow, Suga talks to his alter as there are two Yoongis in that mv. The Yoongi that is scared and wants to run away and the Yoongi who knows that everything will end but enjoys the riches of life. Also the mirrors that break at the start of the mv is another reference to mk ultra. Seriously all of this is so crazy it’s hard to comprehend. Imagine if they were actually moonchild. This abuse would have started since birth. This is why I still have little sympathy because to have mk ultra personas the person has to go through unimaginable trauma. This makes them disassociate. The worst thing is Bighit profit from showing this for example lie and mama short films clearly show mk rooms where they are programmed and seizures which could be a side effect. They profit off showing trauma and fans buy it as art and some deep storyline when this is most likely reflecting their lives.
 
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Hey guys...long time no see..just wanted to say that I completely got i kpop in general and my life feels normal again. I feel that preventing myself from watching their videos played a role but prayer to God played the biggest role.

The obbssession with their lives is completely gone and instead now I'm fighting other battles.

I wanted to post this video to show you guys what this man said about an mkuktra victim and what their plan is. Its in the last page of the forum so hopefully you check it out.

 

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I don't know exactly, but it seems. He wears it a lot, he wears a lot of rings too, I wonder if there's anything wrong.


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Quick note:
Among the Illuminati it's normal, some also wear leather bracelets (in the KPop, I don't remember having seen any). For the color of the ring, it would be a meaning of the rank. The red is higher than the black ring (which is supposed to be a protection ring), against evil spirits. The red stone is also linked to Osiris (I had planned to do a subject, on the accessories, but with all that he has to write...
 
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