George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

[Lisa]

No, that's the white lib. The criminal understands. Just doesn't care.

So they do it and don’t care if they are locked up or are free in the world? Ok...

 

[Lurker]

So they do it and don’t care if they are locked up or are free in the world? Ok...

Yeah, pretty much. Sure they'll skip bail given the chance, but being locked up is street cred. Read a book or leave your bubble.

 

[justjess]

Congratulations on what Hillary?

New York City passes budget with $1 billion cut to NYPD amid City Hall protest

City Council passed the New York City budget late Tuesday night, a budget which includes redistributing $1 billion from the NYPD budget.

abc7ny.com

Not only does that take away money from the police but government officials coming down on the police also has a negative affect on them.

From June 29 to July 6, filings soared 411% from the same period a year earlier, according to O'Donnell, a spokesperson for the Deputy Commissioner, Public Information.

NYPD sees 'troubling' surge of retirement filings, official says | CNN

The New York Police Department has seen a "surge" in the number of officers filing for retirement, according to Sgt. Mary Frances O'Donnell, who called the trend "troubling."

www.cnn.com

Minneapolis City Council Unanimously Votes To Replace Police With Community-Led Model

Minneapolis City Council Unanimously Votes To Replace Police With Community-Led Model

The move comes as protesters and activists across the country call for their cities to “defund the police.”

www.forbes.com

Minneapolis Police Experience Surge of Departures in Aftermath of George Floyd Protests

Minneapolis Police Experience Surge of Departures in Aftermath of George Floyd Protests (Published 2020)

The retention and recruitment problems that many police departments have experienced in recent years are especially pronounced after four Minneapolis officers were charged with Mr. Floyd’s death.

www.nytimes.com

The perfect storm of stupidity..

Why Officials Think Gun Violence Is Spiking in New York City

Here's what criminal justice experts think.

www.ny1.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/violence-rises-in-minneapolis-as-debate-over-role-of-police-rages/2020/06/26/12fd6020-b7c6-11ea-aca5-ebb63d27e1ff_story.html

So instead of answering the question posed to you and doing some actual research you instead decided to regurgitate MSM talking points about budget cuts THAT HAVENT GONE INTO EFFECT YET and cite them for the increasing crime rate in certain parts of the country

how can changes that aren’t in effect yet cause changes currently going on and even predating the announcement of the upcoming changes??? Have you ever looked up the word LOGIC?

 

[justjess]

No, that's the white lib. The criminal understands. Just doesn't care.

The “white lib” wants the obscene amount of money being spent on police and prisons to be spent on things that actually reduce crime and improve quality of life instead.

also, generally for a consequence to be effective as a deterrent of behavior the consequence needs to be 1) immediate and 2) guaranteed. No matter how many police we have neither of those things will ever be possible as far as getting arrested and Locked up are concerned. And we shouldn’t want them to be.

 

[Lisa]

So instead of answering the question posed to you and doing some actual research you instead decided to regurgitate MSM talking points about budget cuts THAT HAVENT GONE INTO EFFECT YET and cite them for the increasing crime rate in certain parts of the country

how can changes that aren’t in effect yet cause changes currently going on and even predating the announcement of the upcoming changes??? Have you ever looked up the word LOGIC?

The local governments belittling of the police have emboldened the criminals and deflated the police..it has and is having an effect.

 

[Lisa]

So instead of answering the question posed to you and doing some actual research you instead decided to regurgitate MSM talking points about budget cuts THAT HAVENT GONE INTO EFFECT YET and cite them for the increasing crime rate in certain parts of the country

how can changes that aren’t in effect yet cause changes currently going on and even predating the announcement of the upcoming changes??? Have you ever looked up the word LOGIC?

Just sharing the news you ignore.

 

[Lurker]

LOGIC

The “white lib” wants the obscene amount of money being spent on police and prisons to be spent on things that actually reduce crime and improve quality of life instead.

also, generally for a consequence to be effective as a deterrent of behavior the consequence needs to be 1) immediate and 2) guaranteed. No matter how many police we have neither of those things will ever be possible as far as getting arrested and Locked up are concerned. And we shouldn’t want them to be.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt the need to dumb it down. Not for you, of course.

 

[Lisa]

Yeah, pretty much. Sure they'll skip bail given the chance, but being locked up is street cred. Read a book or leave your bubble.

Maybe it gives them street cred...but I still think they’d like to not get caught and put back in jail/prison..that’s why they run and lie when they are caught.

 

[justjess]

The local governments belittling of the police have emboldened the criminals and deflated the police..it has and is having an effect.

You are mistaking correlation for causation. In case you haven’t noticed there are a whole lot of other things going on in the world right now. There’s like a universal case of “the fuck it’s” spreading like wildfire for one.

 

[Lisa]

Pop quiz Lisa: when does nyc’s fiscal year start? You know... the date when those budget cuts will actually start being in place?

Doesn’t matter they’ve already demoralized the police and emboldened the criminals.

 

[Lisa]

You are mistaking correlation for causation.

No I haven’t.

 

[justjess]

No I haven’t.

Yeah you most definately have. But it fits your narrative so your cool with that

 

[Lisa]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1293218900444721153

 

[justjess]

Another question:

if you people don’t want police budgets cut then why are you resisting providing federal aid to state and local governments that have been bankrupted by COVID? How do you expect them to pay for this? The budgets were going to be cut even in the absence of these protests and riots because THERES NO MONEY.

 

[Lisa]

Another question:

if you people don’t want police budgets cut then why are you resisting providing federal aid to state and local governments that have been bankrupted by COVID? How do you expect them to pay for this? The budgets were going to be cut even in the absence of these protests and riots because THERES NO MONEY.

Those states..the blue states bankrupted themselves with their leftist agendas to keep themselves in power. If there’s no money it’s on them and they shouldn’t get bailed out to continue their fleecing of their states.

 

[Lisa]

Defund the police.....then...bye bye lawyers? Hmmmm might be a silver lining here, after all...

An increase in burials? Might not be so great after all unless you’re a mortician but then you always have job security.

 

[justjess]

Those states..the blue states bankrupted themselves with their leftist agendas to keep themselves in power. If there’s no money it’s on them and they shouldn’t get bailed out to continue their fleecing of their states.

Crazy they were managing just fine before covid lmao.. god your like a walking Fox News clip.

Cities May Have No Choice But to Defund the Police

By creating state budget crises amid nationwide protests, Mitch McConnell may be accelerating cuts to local police departments.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Lurker]

god your like a walking Fox News clip.

Yeah, Vanity Fair with an un-named expert isn't any better tho.

 

[justjess]

Seems like it’s more than just blue states in this pickle.

Florida's Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, compared his state's budget cuts to the Red Wedding scene in HBO's Game of Thrones.

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, a Republican, said, "Responding to this crisis has created a multiyear budget crisis unlike anything the state has ever faced before, more than three times worse than the Great Recession."

For example, so far that state has cut nearly $190 million from higher education. Programs designed to reduce crime in Baltimore also took a hit, as did foster care providers and public defenders.

States Are Broke And Many Are Eyeing Massive Cuts. Here's How Yours Is Doing

Some states face record-breaking deficits because of the coronavirus pandemic. We asked local reporters across the country to tell us what could be on the chopping block in your state.

www.npr.org

 

[justjess]

Yeah, Vanity Fair with an un-named expert isn't any better tho.

See my next reply. It’s hard to answer absurd bullshit talking points with out lowering your own standards a bit unfortunately. I will say this.. as soon as shit started hitting red states that orange asshole started wearing a mask.

i would also just like to point out the media spin on these police reforms and “defunding” is making it look like protesters won something. The defunding was going to happen anyway. It had too, states (most of them) can’t print money or run deficits like the fed can.