The TRUE BIBLICAL TRUTH; Esau will fall, Jacob will rise

[TokiEl]

My point is that it’s things like this that make the NT confusing and contradictory.

Ezekiel 2 1“Son of man,a” He said to me, “stand up on your feet and I will speak to you.” 2And as He spoke to me, the Spirit entered me and set me on my feet, and I heard Him speaking to me.

3“Son of man,” He said to me: “I am sending you to the Israelites, to a rebellious nation that has rebelled against Me. To this very day they and their fathers have rebelled against Me. 4They are obstinate and stubborn children. I am sending you to them, and you are to say to them, ‘This is what the Lord GOD says.’

5And whether they listen or refuse to listen—for they are a rebellious house—they will know that a prophet has been among them.

6But you, son of man, do not be afraid of them or their words. Do not be afraid, though briers and thorns surround you, and you dwell among scorpions. Do not be afraid of their words or dismayed by their presence, though they are a rebellious house. 7But speak My words to them, whether they listen or refuse to listen, for they are rebellious.

8And you, son of man, listen to what I tell you. Do not be rebellious like that rebellious house. Open your mouth and eat what I give you.”

9Then I looked and saw a hand reaching out to me, and in it was a scroll, 10which He unrolled before me. And written on the front and back of it were words of lamentation, mourning, and woe.


Ezekiel 3 1“Son of man,” He said to me, “eat what you find here. Eat this scroll, then go and speak to the house of Israel.”

2So I opened my mouth, and He fed me the scroll.

3“Son of man,” He said to me, “eat and fill your stomach with this scroll I am giving you.”

So I ate, and it was as sweet as honey in my mouth.

4Then He said to me, “Son of man, go now to the house of Israel and speak My words to them. 5For you are not being sent to a people of unfamiliar speech or difficult language, but to the house of Israel— 6not to the many peoples of unfamiliar speech and difficult language whose words you cannot understand. Surely if I had sent you to them, they would have listened to you.

7But the house of Israel will be unwilling to listen to you, since they are unwilling to listen to Me. For the whole house of Israel is hard-headed and hard-hearted.

 

[cjkkw]

BIBLE VERSES ABOUT DAVID AND GOLIATH

BIBLE VERSES ABOUT DAVID AND GOLIATH. David And Goliath Bible verses in the King James Version (KJV) about David And Goliath.

www.kingjamesbibleonline.org

 

[Tidal]

Tidal said- Remember Jesus said plenty of times that he WASN'T God..
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He said plenty of times that he was...

Where? Can you provide "plenty" of verses?
As regards so-called "christian" debaters, most of them are "spiritual perverts" who like to think they know better than anybody else, so pay them no heed.
"If anyone preaches a perverted gospel they're accursed" (Galatians 1:6-9)

Remember, Jesus said "You have one teacher, me" (Matt 23:10)
so as long as you stick with him you'll be alright, he's easy enough to understand..-
"And the common people heard Jesus gladly" (Mark 12:37)

 

[KoncreteMind]

So are they (koncreep)

Imma hold you to that

 

[KoncreteMind]

Yeah you reject the NT nothing is new...

And you reject the OT. The difference is the OT stands with or without the NT. While your NT cant stand with OR without the OT... You'll figure it out but it will be too late to do anything by then...

 

[A Freeman]

Isaiah 42:10 Sing unto the "I AM" the "New Song" (Rev. 14:3; 15:3), [and] His praise from the "end of the earth", ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.

Revelation 5:9 And they sung a New Song (Isa 42:10), saying, Thou art worthy to take the Book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Revelation 14:1-4
14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the Mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty [and] four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many "waters", and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
14:3 And they sung as it were a New Song (Isaiah 42:10) before the Throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that "Song" except the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which were redeemed from the Earth.
14:4 These are they which were not corrupted by women; for they are pure. These are they which follow the Lamb wheresoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, [being] the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb (obeying God NOT women).

Revelation 15:1-4
15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the Wrath of God.
15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over its image, and over its mark, [and] over the number of its name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
15:3 And they sing the "Song of Moses" (Old Covenant - Deut. 31) the servant of God, AND the "Song of the Lamb" (New Covenant), saying, Great and marvellous [are] Thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true [are] Thy Ways, Thou King of the holy people.
15:4 Who shall not fear Thee, O Lord, and glorify Thy name? for [Thou] ONLY [art] Holy (Matt 19:17): for all nations shall come and worship before Thee; for Thy Judgments are made manifest.

The "New Song" is the "Song of Moses" (Old Covenant) AND the "Song of the Lamb" (New Covenant), which are in perfect harmony with each other.

 

[cjkkw]

Isaiah 42:10 Sing unto the "I AM" the "New Song" (Rev. 14:3; 15:3), [and] His praise from the "end of the earth", ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.

Revelation 5:9 And they sung a New Song (Isa 42:10), saying, Thou art worthy to take the Book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Revelation 14:1-4
14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the Mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty [and] four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many "waters", and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
14:3 And they sung as it were a New Song (Isaiah 42:10) before the Throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that "Song" except the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which were redeemed from the Earth.
14:4 These are they which were not corrupted by women; for they are pure. These are they which follow the Lamb wheresoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, [being] the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb (obeying God NOT women).

Revelation 15:1-4
15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the Wrath of God.
15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over its image, and over its mark, [and] over the number of its name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
15:3 And they sing the "Song of Moses" (Old Covenant - Deut. 31) the servant of God, AND the "Song of the Lamb" (New Covenant), saying, Great and marvellous [are] Thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true [are] Thy Ways, Thou King of the holy people.
15:4 Who shall not fear Thee, O Lord, and glorify Thy name? for [Thou] ONLY [art] Holy (Matt 19:17): for all nations shall come and worship before Thee; for Thy Judgments are made manifest.

The "New Song" is the "Song of Moses" (Old Covenant) AND the "Song of the Lamb" (New Covenant), which are in perfect harmony with each other.

David= jesuschrist Goliath=god
y'all do the math.

 

[floss]

Imma hold you to that

Can't help what I saw

Spiritual creep preying on LittleGirl for her soul

 

[LittleLady]

Where did God say repent to a son ? Where did God say he had a son outside of Israel? I think I’m asking a fair enough question.

Ezekiel 18:21 “But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?

Isaiah 44:22 I have blotted out your transgressions like a cloud and your sins like mist; return to me, for I have redeemed you.


Ezekiel 14:6 Therefore say to the house of Israel, Thus says the Lord God: Repent and turn away from your idols, and turn away your faces from all your abominations.

So what do you mean repent to a son ? What sense does that make ? Realize YOU are the SON.

Anyway I digress . Suite yourself. If your idol is that important to you, and you choose to obey his voice over God so be it. That’s all on you! I’m not trying to convince you. I simply want you to open your eyes and ears to The Most High God.

Again I can’t say this enough. He never spoke a single word in the NT outside of one deceptive sentence. So basically as I said HE NEVER SPOKE A WORD.

So you need to ask yourself who are you following if those aren’t the words of God??

All you have to do is read the NT. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world (his people) that he sent his SON-" example.

Psalm 2:7
“I will surely tell of the decree of the Lord:
He said to Me, ‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You." (This happened when Yeshua died for his people)

1 John 4:10 "In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins."

Mark 14:61 "But He kept silent and did not answer. Again the high priest was questioning Him, and saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?”

Mark 9:7 "Then a cloud formed, overshadowing them, and a voice came out of the cloud, “This is My beloved Son, listen to Him!"

Etc etc.

 

[LittleLady]

So are they (koncreep n yahda) still your brother and sister at this moment? You realize they are trying to drag you to hell with them right?

As I said, just because they're wrong right now doesn't mean they'll never see the truth later so they still could be considered my brother and sister. If they don't learn later on though, then they aren't. Simple as that.

 

[Lisa]

Can't help what I saw

Spiritual creep preying on LittleGirl for her soul

Her sister laid the groundwork though...

 

[floss]

As I said, just because they're wrong right now doesn't mean they'll never see the truth later so they still could be considered my brother and sister. If they don't learn later on though, then they aren't. Simple as that.

So you don't know whether koncreep nor yahda are you brother or sister at this moment? Then why do you called them your brother and sister with confident earlier? What about the rest of the folks here?

 

[Yahda]

Tidal said- Remember Jesus said plenty of times that he WASN'T God..
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Where? Can you provide "plenty" of verses?
As regards so-called "christian" debaters, most of them are "spiritual perverts" who like to think they know better than anybody else, so pay them no heed.
"If anyone preaches a perverted gospel they're accursed" (Galatians 1:6-9)

Remember, Jesus said "You have one teacher, me" (Matt 23:10)
so as long as you stick with him you'll be alright, he's easy enough to understand..-
"And the common people heard Jesus gladly" (Mark 12:37)

It’s no secret that Christians here argue that Jesus is God/God in the flesh. It only took a second to go back to an OP where this was the case.

I see some of your post as well where you are arguing back and forth with them so I know you are aware that this has been a debate within your Christian community for a while.

All you have to do is read the NT. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world (his people) that he sent his SON-" example.

Psalm 2:7
“I will surely tell of the decree of the Lord:
He said to Me, ‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You." (This happened when Yeshua died for his people)

1 John 4:10 "In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins."

Mark 14:61 "But He kept silent and did not answer. Again the high priest was questioning Him, and saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?”

Mark 9:7 "Then a cloud formed, overshadowing them, and a voice came out of the cloud, “This is My beloved Son, listen to Him!"

Etc etc.

You need to read a little more into Psalms. Chapters 89/78:68-72....to be exact. I won’t post the scriptures right away. Why ? I feel like that’s the problem. Christians tend to CHERRY PICK.

God made a covenant with David, His ANOINTED ONE.

 

[KoncreteMind]

Can't help what I saw

Spiritual creep preying on LittleGirl for her soul

And I guess your intentions are pure and golden?

 

[floss]

And I guess your intentions are pure and golden?

Of course, my God doesn't save only black hebrew israelite.

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJVA‬‬

 

[Tidal]

..Christians tend to CHERRY PICK..

Yes I know, that's how oddball cults start..
If you yourself are not a christian you're ideally placed to give us an unbiased answer to the question- Was Jesus God?
Go for it..

 

[KoncreteMind]

Of course, my God doesn't save only black hebrew israelite.

Isaiah 56:3
Let no foreigner who is bound to the Lord say,
“The Lord will surely exclude me from his people.”

The problem is you wont drop your idol for the Most High. So into captivity (according to the OT that is) you go... You cant blame me for not wanting the next person to follow you down that path right?

 

[Yahda]

Yes I know, that's how oddball cults start..
If you yourself are not a christian you're ideally placed to give us an unbiased answer to the question- Was Jesus God?
Go for it..

Was Jesu God ? NO!!

 

[Tidal]

Was Jesu God ? NO!!

Good for you mate, you know more than the christian cultists who insist Jesus WAS God..

 

[Yahda]

As I said, just because they're wrong right now doesn't mean they'll never see the truth later so they still could be considered my brother and sister. If they don't learn later on though, then they aren't. Simple as that.

I also ask that you take these words of God unto consideration:

Psalms 49:7

“No one can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for them--

The Ransom for a life is costly, no payment is ever enough--“

So with that being said Jesus could NEVER. Not even his blood is valued at enough to save “Israel“. Whom God refereed to as the “apple of his eye”.