The TRUE BIBLICAL TRUTH; Esau will fall, Jacob will rise

[lightseeker]

Do you keep the law?

She says god the father is a black man, just an idol worshipper let’s move on

 

[floss]

She says god the father is a black man, just an idol worshipper let’s move on

Have you seen LittleLady's racist little black god?

 

[Tidal]

Romans 11 is going to tell you all you need to know about God and His chosen people..the Jews...but this is it in a nutshell..

Romans‬ ‭11:1, 29‬ ‭
I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be!
for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
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God's offer remains on the table for jews/ nonchristians/ atheists to accept Jesus before they die, so certainly God hasn't rejected them by withdrawing that offer.
But if they still haven't accepted Jesus before they die, it's GAME OVER for them.
I mean, surely you don't honestly believe the satanic propaganda that Jesus-rejecters will be allowed into heaven?
Furthermore, if there are going to be rejecters there, I swear to God I wouldn't want to go, because they're simply not the kind of people I'd want as neighbours in this world or the next..

"What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?..Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord, I will be a Father to you, and you shall be my sons and daughters" (2 Cor 6:14-18 )
"Don't yoke yourself with unbelievers,for what do light and darkness have in common?" (2 Cor 6:14)
Jesus said - "Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you, get away from me, you evildoers!"(Matt 7:23)
"A liar denies Jesus is the Christ, and is an antichrist" (1 John 2:22/23)
"Ungodly men, wandering stars for whom the blackness of darkness is reserved forever" (Jude 1:4-19)
"How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot...it is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God" (Heb 10:29-31)
"Don't let unbelievers into your house or bid them God speed" (2 John 1:10 KJV)
"Bad company corrupts good character" (1 Cor 15:33)
Jesus said:- "Whoever rejects me rejects God" (Luke 10:16)
Jesus said:-"Whoever's ashamed of me and my words, I'll be ashamed of him" (Mark 8:38 )
"They will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath" (Revelation 14:10)

Remember, this is the Vigilant Citizen forum, so be vigilant against Satan's lackeys who try to push the lie that rejecters will get through the pearlies.
God is not some mushbrained lefty social worker, so his answer to rejecters will be-

 

[Lisa]

God's offer remains on the table for jews/ nonchristians/ atheists to accept Jesus before they die, so certainly God hasn't rejected them by withdrawing that offer.
But if they still haven't accepted Jesus before they die, it's GAME OVER for them.
I mean, surely you don't honestly believe the satanic propaganda that Jesus-rejecters will be allowed into heaven?
Furthermore, if there are going to be rejecters there, I swear to God I wouldn't want to go, because they're simply not the kind of people I'd want as neighbours in this world or the next..

"What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?..Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord, I will be a Father to you, and you shall be my sons and daughters" (2 Cor 6:14-18 )
"Don't yoke yourself with unbelievers,for what do light and darkness have in common?" (2 Cor 6:14)
Jesus said - "Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you, get away from me, you evildoers!"(Matt 7:23)
"A liar denies Jesus is the Christ, and is an antichrist" (1 John 2:22/23)
"Ungodly men, wandering stars for whom the blackness of darkness is reserved forever" (Jude 1:4-19)
"How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot...it is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God" (Heb 10:29-31)
"Don't let unbelievers into your house or bid them God speed" (2 John 1:10 KJV)
"Bad company corrupts good character" (1 Cor 15:33)
Jesus said:- "Whoever rejects me rejects God" (Luke 10:16)
Jesus said:-"Whoever's ashamed of me and my words, I'll be ashamed of him" (Mark 8:38 )
"They will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath" (Revelation 14:10)

Remember, this is the Vigilant Citizen forum, so be vigilant against Satan's lackeys who try to push the lie that rejecters will get through the pearlies.
God is not some mushbrained lefty social worker, so his answer to rejecters will be-

Right..you have to believe before you die..you made it sound like the Jews don’t have any chance before they die..which I was only telling you that God isn’t done with them.

and if you want to make it yourself..you must believe Jesus is God or you won’t be there either.

 

[Tidal]

..and if you want to make it yourself..you must believe Jesus is God or you won’t be there either.

If Jesus is God I'm Mary Poppins..
We KNOW he wasn't because he said so himself, it's not rocket science-

Jesus said - "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I" (John 14:28 )
Jesus said -"Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone" (Luke 18:19)
Jesus said - "Only God knows when Judgment Day will be, I don't know myself" (Mark 13:32)
Jesus said - "I say nothing of my own accord, i only say what my father tells me to say.." (John 12:49)
Jesus said- "I am going to my Father and your Father, my God and your God" (John 20:17)
God himself said - "This is my beloved son, listen to him" (Matt 17:5)

So you'd better argue it out with them both if you meet them..

 

[shankara]

Just because you reject the idea of something doesnt mean its not real. The dillema that you are faced with is that you need to be right otherwise you will suffer the consequences promised by various other accounts of the creator and creation. The eternal safety of soul is wholly dependant on your personal subjective assesment needing to being right whether you agree with that or not. You need to be right, because being wrong ends in irreversible disaster yet the odds are with all the various other beliefs suggest there is a slim chance of you have made the right choice. Its not a matter of picking and choosing. Its a matter of needing to be right. Your confident you wont go to hell yet various beliefs contend you will as an absolute truth of revealed reality. All three of the major beliefs state that there is no hope for you. What are the chances all three are wong? Im merely pointing out from an odds and probability perspective the chances of you going to hell are more real and threatening if u combine all three together... Your absolute confidence becomes questionable in light of this from a probability stanspoint. Simply put you have to be right...

A large number of people believing something doesn't make it correct. In fact that isn't even a real argument, it's an "appeal to common belief". My view is based on logic, in my opinion irrefutable logic, not a "feeling".

A human being cannot do infinite evil
Therefore
A human being cannot be subject to infinite punishment

So not only am I not worried about the "eternal safety of my soul", I also think that making such a consideration the primary motivation for one's spirituality is a rather calculating way of looking at things. As @DevaWolf said: "I either worship out of love or I worship nobody", that is to say that worshipping out of fear isn't really the correct motivation. Of course I am not free from such calculation, but I do believe I should strive to be.

 

[Tidal]

What could a human being do to merit suffering for eternity?...
....a philosophy and a source of unnecessary fear for a lot of people....
....Which, by the way, serves a purpose of social control for certain forces which want humanity to placidly accept oppression.

1- Jesus-rejecters are not my kind of people, so frankly if God slings them out like human trash on judgement day I really don't care, they had their chance..

2- Christians fear NOTHING, why on earth should they?..

3- Christianity is all about REJECTING worldly control, that's why the Establishment hates Jesus; you can dance to the world's tune if you like but include me out..

Jesus said:- "The world wants you to dance to its tune......God has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners...to release the oppressed" (Matt 11:16/17,Luke 4:18 )
"Jesus saved you from the empty way of life handed you by your forefathers" (1 Pet 1:18 )
"Don't conform to the pattern of this world" (Rom 12:2)
"As a soldier of Christ, please only God and not the world" (2 Tim 2:3/4)
"Don't love the world or the things in it, otherwise the love of God is not in you" (1 John 2:15-17)
"Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth" (Col 3:2)
"You were bought at a price, don't serve men" (1 Cor 7:23)
"A friend of the world is the enemy of God" (James 4:4)
"You were dead when you followed the ways of the world" (Eph 2:1/2)
"You died with Christ from this world, so don't keep submitting to its rules" (Col 2:20)

Paul said- "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms" (Eph 6:12).

 

[shankara]

1- Jesus-rejecters are not my kind of people, so frankly if God slings them out like human trash on judgement day I really don't care, they had their chance..

Your love for humanity and acceptance of people's individual paths of spiritual and personal awakening really shows. Do you really have such a big problem with anyone who happens not to think like you do? Because personally I'd say that people really have the right to think however they want, I don't think anyone is going to be condemned because they are Christian, Muslim, Sikh, Hindu or Jain, rather we suffer karma for the bad we do and spiritually evolve according to how we practise and struggle.

Do you ever wonder if other people consider you to be "human trash"? Would you like to be labelled in such a way because of your religion?

2- Christians fear NOTHING, why on earth should they?..

I dunno, a lot of them seem to me to be motivated by a fear of going to hell.

3- Christianity is all about REJECTING worldly control, that's why the Establishment hates Jesus; you can dance to the world's tune if you like but include me out..

Well yes, I think it was that in the beginning, but not in it's modern diluted and distorted form. As is quite clear from your posts defending good ol' Uncle Sam.

 

[Tidal]

Your love for humanity and acceptance of people's individual paths of spiritual and personal awakening really shows..
...your posts defending good ol' Uncle Sam.

1- I've never known a Jesus-rejecter who I've really liked, they're on dead-end "paths" as far as I'm concerned and I definitely won't be putting the kettle on for them..
"Don't let unbelievers into your house or bid them God speed" (2 John 1:10 KJV)


2- Don Trump has got it right..-

Somebody up there has got his back..
Jesus said "And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered" (Matt 10:30)

 

[A Freeman]

Around 6000 years ago, Lucifer organized and led a coup attempt to seize control of the Universe. He managed to recruit a third of the inhabitants of the Morning Star (angels) into his army, using LIES to CONvince them.

Revelation 12:3-4
12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
12:4 And his tale (of lies - John 8:35) drew the third part of the "Stars" (ch. 9:1) of heaven (into his army), and did (cause them to be) cast to the Earth (for their treason against God): and the dragon stood before the woman (Israel) which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born (Christ - second coming).

Lucifer's lies were unprecedented, which is why they took the weaker-willed angels by surprise. No one on the Morning Star had EVER lied before Lucifer invented it.

John 8:35-36 (8:44-45 KJV)
8:35 Ye are of [YOUR] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the Truth, because there is no Truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father (inventor) of it.
8:36 And because I tell [you] the Truth, ye believe me not.

Lucifer's failed attempt to overthrow and murder God, so he could take God's Place as The King Ruler of the Universe, is a well-documented FACT.

Isaiah 14:12-17
14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the Morning (Star)! [How] art thou cut down to the earth, which didst weaken the nations!
14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the North:
14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like (take the Place of) The Most High.
14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, [and] consider thee, [saying, Is] this the person that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
14:17 [That] made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; [that] opened not the house of his prisoners?

Lucifer and his angels (those who fought with Lucifer against God) had to be taught to keep the twelve laws of heaven; THE TWELVE COMMANDMENTS; ten of which were given to Moses on Mount Sinai (Exodus 20:1-17), and the eleventh and twelfth, which were given later-on, by Jesus; one of which God demonstrated and still demonstrates, i.e. “love your enemies into being good” (Matt. 5:43-48).

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in Our image, and teach him to be like Us (i.e. teach him to be good instead of sinful/selfish/evil): and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

The title Satan is Hebrew and means “the Opposer” (God's adversary). When Lucifer became darkness and evil, he became the d/evil-LIAR, opposing everything that is truthful and good (Matt. 19:17). The great red dragon, devil and Satan are therefore descriptive terms Lucifer earned as a result of his criminal actions. A dragon uses its tail/tale to draw its victims into its clutches, and everything that comes out of its mouth burns its victims. A perfect description of lying Lucifer/Satan/the devil. He is also referred to as being a serpent, because everything that comes out of his mouth is poison.

Lucifer's coup attempt had to be put down by Prince Michael, known here on Earth by many names, including The Messiah/Christ, (the Anointed One/Heir to the Throne – Dan. 10:21, Dan.12:1-4, Col. 1:14-15, Rev. 5:1-9), and His Army, the heavenly host. When the rebellion against God failed and the war ended 6000 years ago, Lucifer and his followers were banished from heaven to the Earth for their TREASON against God.

Revelation 12:7-9
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the earth, and his angels (you - Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).

Luke 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what kind of spirit ye are of (Rev. 12:7-9; Matt. 8:22).

Matthew 7:11 If ye then, BEING EVIL, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask Him?

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into Everlasting Fire, prepared for the devil and his angels (YOU that do not DO God's Will):

The Prison-Reform School

Not executing Lucifer and his angels, outright, created quite a difficult situation. After making a study of the situation, God and the elders of the Morning Star decided to create a prison reform-school, far enough away, where, for the chosen period, they could safely try to teach Lucifer and his angels to be good, whereupon they could come home (Deut. 28:1, Rev. 2:28, Sura 29:6).

Lucifer and his angels (those who fought with Lucifer against God) had to be taught to keep the twelve laws of heaven; THE TWELVE COMMANDMENTS; ten of which were given to Moses on Mount Sinai (Exodus 20:1-17), and the eleventh and twelfth, which were given later-on, by Jesus; one of which God demonstrated and still demonstrates, i.e. “love your enemies into being good” (Matt. 5:43-48).

Every one of the convicts accepted God's most gracious and merciful offer to be rehabilitated inside human-animal bodies, except for Lucifer/Iblis, who arrogantly refused to submit to human limitations. Lucifer/Satan/Iblis then asked God for a stay of execution until The Day (Mal. 4). God granted Lucifer's request, to use him to test the rest of us to determine whether we were learning our lessons, or even paying attention.

That is why Lucifer/Satan/Iblis (the devil, serpent, red-dragon) is still so powerful, and why we NEED God's guidance and help to “slay the dragon”, i.e. learn to stop listening to and getting poisoned and burned by Satan's seductive voice and smooth-sounding LIES.

Lucifer/Satan/Iblis regards the rest of us as traitors to himself for our decision to submit to the re-education program, and has vowed to do everything within his power and to attack us from every conceivable angle (Eph. 6:12-18), to keep us from learning what we NEED to learn, and doing what we need to DO, to be able to go home. That is why he is now our worst enemy.

Sura 7:11-18
7:11. It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the (fallen) angels submit to Adam (human limitations), and you submitted (Luke 9:55); not so Iblis (Lucifer); he refused to be of you who submitted.
7:12. ("I AM") said: "What prevented thee from submitting when I commanded thee?" He said: "I am better than he: Thou didst create me from fire (energy), and him from clay."
7:13. ("I AM") said: "Get thee down from this: it is not for thee to be arrogant here: get out, for thou art of the meanest (of creatures)."
7:14. He said: "Give me respite till the Day they are raised up."
7:15. ("I AM") said: "Be thou among those who have respite."
7:16. He said: "Because thou hast thrown me out of The Way, lo! I will lie in wait for them on Thy Straight Way:
7:17. "Then will I assault them from before them and behind them, from their right and their left: nor wilt Thou find, in MOST of them, gratitude (for Thy mercies)."
7:18. ("I AM") said: "Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee,- Hell-Fire will I fill with you all (Matt. 8:22).

Sura 15:30-43
15:30. So the (fallen) angels submitted themselves (Luke 9:55), all of them together:
15:31. Except Iblis (Lucifer): he refused to be among those who submitted themselves (to human limitations).
15:32. ("I AM") said: "O Lucifer! What is your reason for not being among those who submitted themselves?"
15:33. (Lucifer) said: "I am not one to submit myself to man, whom Thou didst create from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape."
15:34. ("I AM") said: "Then get thee out from here; for thou art rejected, accursed.
15:35. And the Curse shall be on thee till The Day of Judgment."
15:36. (Lucifer) said: "O my Lord! give me then respite till The Day the (dead) are raised."
15:37. ("I AM") said: "Respite is granted thee-
15:38. Till the Day of the Time appointed."
15:39. (Lucifer) said: "O my Lord! Because Thou hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on the Earth, and I will put them ALL in the wrong (Isaiah 5:20-21),-
15:40. Except Thy servants among them, sincere and purified (by Thy Grace)."
15:41. ("I AM") said: "This (way of My sincere servants) is indeed The Way that leads straight to Me (John 11:25).
15:42. For over My servants no authority shalt thou have, except such as put themselves in the wrong by following thee."
15:43. And verily, Hell-Fire is the promised abode for them all (Matt. 8:22)!

Sura 17:61-65
17:61. Behold! We said to the (fallen) angels: "Submit unto Adam (man)": you submitted (Luke 9:55) except Iblis (Lucifer): he said, "Shall I submit to one whom Thou didst create from clay?"
17:62. He said: "Seest Thou? This is the one (Adamic man) whom Thou hast honoured above me! If Thou wilt but respite me to the Day of Judgment, I will surely bring his descendants under my sway - all but a few (Rev. 14:3)!"
17:63. ("I AM") said: "Go thy way if any of them follow thee, verily Hell-Fire will be the recompense of you (all)- an ample recompense (Matt. 8:22).
17:64. "Lead to destruction those whom thou canst among them, with thy (seductive) voice; make assaults on them with thy cavalry and thy infantry; mutually share with them wealth and children; and make promises to them." But Satan promises you nothing but deceit.
17:65. "As for My servants, no authority shalt thou have over them:" enough is thy Lord for a Disposer of affairs (John 11:25).

John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the Life: he that believeth me (NOT Lucifer's lies), though he were "Dead" (under God's death sentence for treason - Rev. 12:7-9; Matt. 8:22; Luke 9:55), yet shall he Live (be pardoned):

This is the real reason for human life on planet Earth, to train those Souls (spirit-Beings/angels) who fought with Lucifer against Father (God) and Prince Michael/Christ. That is what each and every one of us did to be banished to the prison planet reform school for the criminally insane.

The ONLY Way for any of us to be released from this prison is to learn the lessons that we were sent here to learn: how to be perfect, as God in heaven IS perfect. And the ONLY Way to do that is to keep The Law, exactly as we've been COMMANDED to do by every single Prophet and by Christ Himself.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with someone's race, skin color, culture, organized religion, or any other human trait or organization. No human can understand much less keep God's Law (The Law). But every spirit-Being (Soul) absolutely can and MUST learn to keep The Law.

Those who remember and return to The Law will LIVE, and eventually be released back into the Universe, to be with our REAL family and friends. Those who continue in this destructive rebellion against Good, Love, Reason, Patience, Mercy, Justice and Freedom for ALL, will burn.

If you would like to learn how to distinguish between God's small still voice telling you the Truth and Lucifer's seductive voice telling you the smooth-sounding lies you(?) think you want to hear, then you'll NEED to read, study, “digest” The Survival Plan, which is the “little book” (Rev. 10:7-10)/”white stone” (Rev. 2:17) entitled The Way homeor face The Fire by JAH. The title is self-explanatory.

Those of you who claim to be “SAVED” already, are WRONG. You do not mark your own test. Only the Lord marks your test and you will have absolutely NO say in it. You would do well to learn some fresh and real humility and start again, this time DOING what the Lord says and not what you decide yourself (Lucifer/Satan/Iblis really). The ego “Self” has to be “crucified DAILY” (Luke 9:23) until it is DEAD and you want only to serve your Lord and the common good, keeping the COMMANDments; Covenants; His Laws and Ways and NOT your own.

Learn to destroy your ego, or it will destroy you.

John 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship [Him] with their spirit (being) and in Truth.

 

[Lyfe]

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A large number of people believing something doesn't make it correct. In fact that isn't even a real argument, it's an "appeal to common belief". My view is based on logic, in my opinion irrefutable logic, not a "feeling".

A human being cannot do infinite evil
Therefore
A human being cannot be subject to infinite punishment

So not only am I not worried about the "eternal safety of my soul", I also think that making such a consideration the primary motivation for one's spirituality is a rather calculating way of looking at things. As @DevaWolf said: "I either worship out of love or I worship nobody", that is to say that worshipping out of fear isn't really the correct motivation. Of course I am not free from such calculation, but I do believe I should strive to be.

I think your complete dismissal of the possibility is not logical based off of the aforementioned accounts.

 

[Lyfe]

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with someone's race, skin color, culture, organized religion, or any other human trait or organization. No human can understand much less keep God's Law (The Law). But every spirit-Being (Soul) absolutely can and MUST learn to keep The Law.

So you dont keep the law?

 

[shankara]

I think your complete dismissal of the possibility is not logical based off of the aforementioned accounts.

All your accounts prove is that a lot of people believe something. How many people believe something is in no way evidence of whether or not it is true, in fact thinking like that is a logical fallacy known as "appeal to popular belief".

 

[Lisa]

If Jesus is God I'm Mary Poppins..
We KNOW he wasn't because he said so himself, it's not rocket science-

Jesus said - "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I" (John 14:28 )
Jesus said -"Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone" (Luke 18:19)
Jesus said - "Only God knows when Judgment Day will be, I don't know myself" (Mark 13:32)
Jesus said - "I say nothing of my own accord, i only say what my father tells me to say.." (John 12:49)
Jesus said- "I am going to my Father and your Father, my God and your God" (John 20:17)
God himself said - "This is my beloved son, listen to him" (Matt 17:5)

So you'd better argue it out with them both if you meet them..

Just trying to help you out..

 

[Tidal]

..How many people believe something is in no way evidence of whether or not it is true..

Right, many so-called "christians" think they're heaven-bound but that doesn't mean they'll get there, hence Jesus's warning-
"Not all who call me "Lord,Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven. Then I'll tell them plainly, I never knew you, get away from me" (Matt 7:21-23)

 

[LittleLady]

Lol

so he cant be a bright light, because that would make him "white", his hair white like wool. OoOOOoOoO. Are u sure u can worship him with WHITE hair!?

I hope u grow up sooner rather than later, ur decieved. U can bang on about this as much as u like, the premise of ur whole doctrine refutes its self. I dont care what mental gymnastics u do to make it fit.

I think about 90 percent of all people would agree with me, that a God who judges anybody in favour based on there skin tone, is a flawed God, logically God must be the highest concievable moral being.

No no, I asked you to give me John Chapter 3 so we can analyze who he's talking to. Come on, give me John Chapter 3 verses before it gets to verse 15. Don't change the subject.

 

[LittleLady]

So why didn't the scripture say he died for his people within the world?

What about the next word which said WHOSOEVER?

you believed in a racist black god (lower case g)

Just as I asked seekinheart, give me John Chapter 3 verses just before it gets to 15 and I'll analyze this with you and seekinheart. From there, you'll understand why he said "whosoever"

 

[LittleLady]

Do you keep the law?

I try my best to keep them all, but some I can't help with because we're living in a babylonian society. Example, one of his commandments is to not eat unclean food. Well, pretty much all food contains chemicals and has been processed, so I can't help that. Another example, what if there's a homeless Israelite with nothing to eat and someone offers them porkchop? God says do not eat porkchop, but the Israelite can't help it, they'd need to eat it in order to continue living.

So some stuff we can't help with, we can't follow exactly every law due to the society we're in. That is why in Isaiah chapter 14 verse 1-2, he says he will have mercy on Israel.

 

[Lyfe]

All your accounts prove is that a lot of people believe something. How many people believe something is in no way evidence of whether or not it is true, in fact thinking like that is a logical fallacy known as "appeal to popular belief".

The point is that your absolute confidence that there isnt a hell is unfounded by logical deduction. You have reached the conclusion that you wont go to hell and you are basing that off of your opinion and subjective reasoning skills which no scientist, researcher, or detective would consider a truly legitimate means to determine the said reality in question. Every major religion(not just Christianity) has determined you to be an enmity with God and you dismiss it on the basis of your opinion. Your confidence that you wont perish isnt founded on anything very substantial. Its as I said if you consider it from an odds perspective and apply the same logic that you make mention of than you have to use more than just opinion to completely rule out chances of hell to help you arrive at a 0% probability chance of you going to hell. Three of the major religions today stand in the way of you doing that. What are the odds and probability ALL three of these religions are wrong? Your the one taking the chances....

 

[Lyfe]

I try my best to keep them all, but some I can't help with because we're living in a babylonian society. Example, one of his commandments is to not eat unclean food. Well, pretty much all food contains chemicals and has been processed, so I can't help that. Another example, what if there's a homeless Israelite with nothing to eat and someone offers them porkchop? God says do not eat porkchop, but the Israelite can't help it, they'd need to eat it in order to continue living.

So some stuff we can't help with, we can't follow exactly every law due to the society we're in. That is why in Isaiah chapter 14 verse 1-2, he says he will have mercy on Israel.

The law is absolute. There is no annulling of the commandments.