The TRUE BIBLICAL TRUTH; Esau will fall, Jacob will rise

[KoncreteMind]

Why do you(?) feel the need to pick on a little girl, lying about what she has written? She just told you that she is striving to worship Father (God) rather than making a mockery of the Lamb of God by continuing in sin/breaking The Law.

Pick on her how? She says someone died for her sins while God told Moses that the one who sins against Him is the one who will be blotted out of His book. Its straightforward but your NT pagan doctrine gets in the way of it...

Does that make you feel like a big man? Can you really not see that is your "self" trying to deceive YOU (the real you, the Soul/Spirit-Being within), and others, so it can keep itself inflated and in control of your(?) mind?

I have no clue what you're talking about and really couldnt care any less.

Are you really so spiritually blind that you can't see the consistent and repeated use of animal sacrifices throughout The Law, which were offered as an atonement for sin AND TO FORESHADOW FATHER OFFERING HIS UNBLEMISHED FIRSTBORN SON AS A SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS?

Ezekiel 40-48 says there will be sin offerings again when God has His temple built. BLOOD offerings where He tells them HOW to do it. So much for the "final sacrifice" that was "foreshadowed by the animal sacrifices" huh?

You go with David? Who are you(?) trying to fool? Someone who goes with David would DO as David did, acknowledging Christ is his "Lord", just as Father is Christ's LORD (and THE LORD of us all). Why are you lying yet again? To elevate your "self" again perhaps?

Psalm 110:1 <A Psalm of David.> The "I AM" (THE LORD) said unto my Lord (Christ), Sit thou at My right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Your arms arent long enough to box with me sir... Psalm 110 who wrote that? Because it wasnt David lol

Is that what she's actually doing though? Or is that what YOU are doing, having made an idol out of your "self"?

"Hey guys follow what God said in the OT since thats Him speaking"

Gentile: "You've made an idol out of yourself...

Lol give up the heritage my guy. Its clear you dont know what to do with it...

 

[KoncreteMind]

The chosen people are the ones with faith in God

God chose the Israelites and said in the end He would come back for the ones that turned back to Him (and the Gentiles that did what was said in Isaiah 56)... You're avoiding that lol

You are of a certain race without faith = God does not accept you = your race doesnt matter = your race isnt the factor that saves = faith saves = those with faith in God are saved = faith is the factor that matters not tribe as per the next two sentences in Deut 7.

Man I've said that in my last three posts. I've said that an Israelite without faith WONT BE ACCEPTED. Yet you keep coming back and repeating it because you dont want to address God saying that the Israelites are HIS TREASURED possession over ALL nations and that in the end He would gather them from everywhere He scattered them into their land to which they would then live there in peace FOREVER.

Let me underline/bold it though so maybe it will connect

AN ISRAELITE CANNOT BE WITHOUT FAITH AND BE ACCEPTED

That doesnt change the fact that He chose them to be His prized possession. Which you said was wrong to say..

Anyways lets move on. Do you believe everyone in the Bible was black? Were the Jews in the New Testament blacks? When did people start believing they were white if yes?

I'd say around 1492 when Columbus touched down in America IN THE SAME YEAR they expelled the REAL Israelites out of Spain, was the time the shift started to someone else being the "Jews"... Before then, all Israelites were people of color...

 

[lightseeker]

God chose the Israelites and said in the end He would come back for the ones that turned back to Him (and the Gentiles that did what was said in Isaiah 56)... You're avoiding that lol



Man I've said that in my last three posts. I've said that an Israelite without faith WONT BE ACCEPTED. Yet you keep coming back and repeating it because you dont want to address God saying that the Israelites are HIS TREASURED possession over ALL nations and that in the end He would gather them from everywhere He scattered them into their land to which they would then live there in peace FOREVER.

Let me underline/bold it though so maybe it will connect

AN ISRAELITE CANNOT BE WITHOUT FAITH AND BE ACCEPTED

That doesnt change the fact that He chose them to be His prized possession. Which you said was wrong to say..


I'd say around 1492 when Columbus touched down in America IN THE SAME YEAR they expelled the REAL Israelites out of Spain, was the time the shift started to someone else being the "Jews"... Before then, all Israelites were people of color...

Haha ok interesting. Alright we’ll the point I’m making by repeating that is that that means it’s faith that saves, not tribe, because you can be of that tribe and not saved

what you ultimately ignore is that the line of the priesthood of Israel was blessed because Jesus Christ arose from it, after which people all over the world started worshipping the God of Israel and were grafted onto the promise and covenant. I know you don’t accept the New Testament but that’s where the world is, we’re not in a world 3000 years ago where only a small tribe holds the faith of the one God, preserving it from before the flood.

 

[seekinheart]

the truth is not as complicated as u are all making it to be.

 

[A Freeman]

I have no clue

Agreed.

 

[A Freeman]

The title of this thread is true. A REMNANT of Jacob/Israel will rise from among the "dead" and be redeemed from the Earth, while Esau will be utterly destroyed (along with most of mankind).

The very simple truth is this: we are the children of Whom/whom we choose to obey. If we obey Father (God) than we are His (adopted) children (TRUE Israelites). If we continue to obey Satan, then we are his children.

Anyone who refuses to keep and help reinstate Father's Law, found in the first five books of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, exactly as Christ teaches, will burn on the Last Day. There will be absolutely NO exceptions.

Learn to sing the "New Song" (Isa. 42:10, Rev. 5:9, Rev. 14:3, Rev. 15:3).

 

[KoncreteMind]

Haha ok interesting. Alright we’ll the point I’m making by repeating that is that that means it’s faith that saves, not tribe, because you can be of that tribe and not saved

The problem is I've said that in like my last 5 posts yet you keep coming back and repeating it. Yet you wont address the other part of my post where God God says He has a TREASURED group of people over ALL nations who He would come back for in the end times to live with in their land to rule over ALL nations...

what you ultimately ignore is that the line of the priesthood of Israel was blessed because Jesus Christ arose from it, after which people all over the world started worshipping the God of Israel and were grafted onto the promise and covenant. I know you don’t accept the New Testament but that’s where the world is, we’re not in a world 3000 years ago where only a small tribe holds the faith of the one God, preserving it from before the flood.

But you wont say Muslims are worshiping the God of Israel will you?

Thats where you think we are. The truth is no one is worshiping the God of Israel who isnt following His commandments as given to Moses. God tells you how to be grafted in in Isaiah 56. Of course what God says gets ignored by the nations for what their idol(s) say. And that goes for all religions who think they can reach the Most High without going thru what the Most High told Moses... It is what it is though. He said He's coming back to prove who He said He was....

 

[KoncreteMind]

Agreed.

I mean I've seen you cut up the Most High's word, so I cant be surprised that you me in the same manner...

 

[Lyfe]

The title of this thread is true. A REMNANT of Jacob/Israel will rise from among the "dead" and be redeemed from the Earth, while Esau will be utterly destroyed (along with most of mankind).

The very simple truth is this: we are the children of Whom/whom we choose to obey. If we obey Father (God) than we are His (adopted) children (TRUE Israelites). If we continue to obey Satan, then we are his children.

Anyone who refuses to keep and help reinstate Father's Law, found in the first five books of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, exactly as Christ teaches, will burn on the Last Day. There will be absolutely NO exceptions.

Learn to sing the "New Song" (Isa. 42:10, Rev. 5:9, Rev. 14:3, Rev. 15:3).

Do you keep the law freeman or are you under a curse?

Deut 27:26 Cursed [be] he that confirmeth not [all] the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.

 

[Lyfe]

@KoncreteMind

What about you? Do you keep the law?

 

[lightseeker]

The problem is I've said that in like my last 5 posts yet you keep coming back and repeating it. Yet you wont address the other part of my post where God God says He has a TREASURED group of people over ALL nations who He would come back for in the end times to live with in their land to rule over ALL nations...



But you wont say Muslims are worshiping the God of Israel will you?

Thats where you think we are. The truth is no one is worshiping the God of Israel who isnt following His commandments as given to Moses. God tells you how to be grafted in in Isaiah 56. Of course what God says gets ignored by the nations for what their idol(s) say. And that goes for all religions who think they can reach the Most High without going thru what the Most High told Moses... It is what it is though. He said He's coming back to prove who He said He was....

Personally I do think muslims worship the same God. They have a monotheistic religion which talks about the Abrahamic stories and faith, basically the same but in another culture. It’s clear to me that God loves the whole world and wants every person to have faith, not just some. This will be my last reply as I think we’ve gone back and forth enough, feel free to respond though

 

[LittleLady]

No I dont repent to the idol you do. I repent to the same Entity my ancestors did which is the Most High. Try it sometime...



You dont understand that you're supposed to follow the same way given to your ancestors thru Moses. Then again, you said Mexicans, Native Americans, ANYONE can be an Israelite lol.. Just stick to christianity. You cant mix that and the Hebrew way of life and be saved...



Have you ever heard that "God doesnt change"? Why would He give the law as a WITNESS against Israel then change up everything? It makes no sense. The law is the measuring stick against truth and lie. And the law doesnt allow for a "son of God" who we "repent to"..

And instead of sacrificing animals? If thats the case then why did God, in the last 8 books of Ezekiel say that Israel would sacrifice to Him AGAIN and explained to them how they should do it? If He was going to send a "final sacrifice" in His "son", why would He have Ezekiel write down that there will be a temple again, where HE WILL BE, and where ISraelites would offer BLOOD sacrifices to Him again? Like I said, you havent read the bible for yourself. Your sister put you on and thats a blessing. We all start somewhere, but continue pushing.



*yawns* same basic christian questions that could be answered had you read the bible for yourself. You can only sacrifice in places God chooses, not whereever we decide. So if He hasnt given us a place to offer sacrifices, then no sacrifice can be offered...

You're supposed to be stuck in the OT. The NT is from the gentiles lol. Hopefully you get there one day because I have been where you are, but you havent been where I am...

I don't identify as a Christian, as I said so many times but ignore it if you want, then. I am an Israelite, and when I said it's mainly Blacks, Mexicans, and Native Americans that would be saved, I said that because we're the main 3 that got colonized and conquered.

So, you're telling me I'm supposed to be stuck in the OT, and no longer repent to the son? Then you say the NT is for the gentiles? You're obviously confused. I replied to Lyfe that it is actually a fact that there are two groups of gentiles. The first group is the Nations God isn't concerned with because they aren't Israelites. The second group is for the Israelites AMONG the Nations due to slavery which means repentance is for the Israelites, which includes you since you claimed to be one. If the son died for you, why on earth would you repent to the father? You're supposed to worship the father and keep his laws while repenting to the son, and repenting to the son is not worship. I don't think you understand that.

You can't tell me what I've read and what I have not read. You cannot tell me at all. It's a fact that you're the one not able to comprehend anything about the NT and I'm not assuming YOU haven't read it, but I will assume you have not studied it.

Okay, if you want to continue thinking the son that died for our sake which is a very important thing you should acknowledge, is not important, then you can answer to him once he returns. I don't understand how you can doubt him when in Revelation, he's clearly coming back at the end, and just as you told Art Revealer that his kingdom, and the kingdoms of the world outside of Israel would be destroyed- guess who will be our king? YESHUA. The father is the head of the son, the son is the head of man, and man is the head of the woman.

I'll just leave you to figure this out on your own. Every time Freeman and I reply to you with the truth concerning the scriptures ESPECIALLY Freeman, you still doubt it and don't be mad if you turn out to be part of the 2/3 who won't make it, because that's what's going to happen if you don't repent to the son so you can move on to obey the father. It's a process. First repent to the son, and now that you've done that, move along and obey the father and abide by his laws. Not difficult to understand at all.

 

[LittleLady]

the truth is not as complicated as u are all making it to be.

Yet those of you who like to quote John 3:16 never like to mention how the conversation came to be in the first place. Yeshua was talking to an Israelite, and Yeshua himself IS AN ISRAELITE who comes from the Tribe of Judah. But y'all never want to mention that, huh? You just skip that part, and say, "SEE? HE SAID HE DIED FOR THE WHOLE WORLD-" No, he was talking about his people within the world.

 

[LittleLady]

Do you keep the law freeman or are you under a curse?

Deut 27:26 Cursed [be] he that confirmeth not [all] the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.

To keep it short, all Israelites are cursed because their ancestors didn't keep the laws, so there are cursed Israelites right now as we speak including myself. If Freeman/Koncrete are Israelites, then they are most definitely cursed. The good thing is, those curses are slowly transitioning unto the Edomites.

Have you seen those "Karen" videos? Edomites are going absolutely nuts in these last days and it's because they know their time is short.

 

[seekinheart]

Yet those of you who like to quote John 3:16 never like to mention how the conversation came to be in the first place. Yeshua was talking to an Israelite, and Yeshua himself IS AN ISRAELITE who comes from the Tribe of Judah. But y'all never want to mention that, huh? You just skip that part, and say, "SEE? HE SAID HE DIED FOR THE WHOLE WORLD-" No, he was talking about his people within the world.

He literally tells u he died for the world. Hes not black btw, get over it.

 

[LittleLady]

He literally tells u he died for the world. Hes not black btw, get over it.

Please show me the past verses of John Chapter 3 before it gets to verse 16 then. Go on! And we can analyze this together!

Yeshua is of a dark skin tone, just as the father is. Would you like me to yet again give you the scriptures for evidence? If anyone here believes Yeshua is a White man, you're deceived because the White Man worked hard to make it seem like he's White, when he really isn't. He isn't just a bright light either, he has a literal body.

 

[seekinheart]

Please show me the past verses of John Chapter 3 before it gets to verse 16 then. Go on! And we can analyze this together!

Yeshua is of a dark skin tone, just as the father is. Would you like me to yet again give you the scriptures for evidence? If anyone here believes Yeshua is a White man, you're deceived because the White Man worked hard to make it seem like he's White, when he really isn't. He isn't just a bright light either, he has a literal body.

Lol

so he cant be a bright light, because that would make him "white", his hair white like wool. OoOOOoOoO. Are u sure u can worship him with WHITE hair!?

I hope u grow up sooner rather than later, ur decieved. U can bang on about this as much as u like, the premise of ur whole doctrine refutes its self. I dont care what mental gymnastics u do to make it fit.

I think about 90 percent of all people would agree with me, that a God who judges anybody in favour based on there skin tone, is a flawed God, logically God must be the highest concievable moral being.

 

[seekinheart]

Please show me the past verses of John Chapter 3 before it gets to verse 16 then. Go on! And we can analyze this together!

Yeshua is of a dark skin tone, just as the father is. Would you like me to yet again give you the scriptures for evidence? If anyone here believes Yeshua is a White man, you're deceived because the White Man worked hard to make it seem like he's White, when he really isn't. He isn't just a bright light either, he has a literal body.

Tbh with u I wouldnt be surprised if u throw away christianity all together at some point, what u believe is more akin to the 5 percenters, or some afrocentric, revisionist religion, that feels they need to embrace there "true culture". Like I dunno something along the lines of the egyptian mysteries. Thats the fruit of idolizing ur own skin tone.

 

[floss]

Yet those of you who like to quote John 3:16 never like to mention how the conversation came to be in the first place. Yeshua was talking to an Israelite, and Yeshua himself IS AN ISRAELITE who comes from the Tribe of Judah. But y'all never want to mention that, huh? You just skip that part, and say, "SEE? HE SAID HE DIED FOR THE WHOLE WORLD-" No, he was talking about his people within the world.

So why didn't the scripture say he died for his people within the world?

What about the next word which said WHOSOEVER?

you believed in a racist black god (lower case g)

 

[Lyfe]

To keep it short, all Israelites are cursed because their ancestors didn't keep the laws, so there are cursed Israelites right now as we speak including myself. If Freeman/Koncrete are Israelites, then they are most definitely cursed. The good thing is, those curses are slowly transitioning unto the Edomites.

Have you seen those "Karen" videos? Edomites are going absolutely nuts in these last days and it's because they know their time is short.

Do you keep the law?