George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

[Lyfe]

You are picking and choosing what to look at. The only decent restaurant in my area has cooked and donated over 40,000 meals to local families since st patty’s day - fueled by community donations. The local sewing coop spent weeks making masks that they distributed to all residents in need for free. A little boy drowned a week or so back and the whole town pooled together to cover the families expenses and send him off properly.

When all you look for is shit, all you find is shit.

I could respond to that, but its been demonstrated that pride will only further get in the way of keeping one from being able to properly see fallen man in his true condition. Even Jesus acknowledged that the people of Israel tho being evil could give good gifts(Matthew 7:11), but it did not take away from his clear verdict of mankind as a whole(John 3:19).

 

[justjess]

I could respond to that, but its been demonstrated that pride will only further get in the way of keeping one from being able to properly see fallen man in his true condition. Even Jesus acknowledged that the people of Israel tho being evil could give good gifts(Matthew 7:11), but it did not take away from his clear verdict of mankind as a whole(John 3:19).

Does the Bible teach that men are basically bad by nature or basically good by nature? Well, it depends what you mean by “nature.” As you will recall from Genesis 1:27, God made mankind uniquely in His image and placed him in charge of all His creation. Then God pronounced His benediction on the creation and said that it was very good. Therefore, it would hardly make sense for us to say that man is basically bad by nature, when the Bible clearly teaches us that the original design of nature is good, indeed even very good. So then mankind is basically good by virtue of the fact that he the crowning achievement of God’s creation.

^ from a Christian website that seems to be ideologically compatible to you. As I said, man is not inherently evil just easily manipulated. You call this sin and blame it on the devil. I call it something else. Same thing. Not even the Christian faith believes man is evil at his core.

 

[Lyfe]

Does the Bible teach that men are basically bad by nature or basically good by nature? Well, it depends what you mean by “nature.” As you will recall from Genesis 1:27, God made mankind uniquely in His image and placed him in charge of all His creation. Then God pronounced His benediction on the creation and said that it was very good. Therefore, it would hardly make sense for us to say that man is basically bad by nature, when the Bible clearly teaches us that the original design of nature is good, indeed even very good. So then mankind is basically good by virtue of the fact that he the crowning achievement of God’s creation.

^ from a Christian website that seems to be ideologically compatible to you. As I said, man is not inherently evil just easily manipulated. You call this sin and blame it on the devil. I call it something else. Same thing. Not even the Christian faith believes man is evil at his core.

Man was created very good and blameless, yes, but this was before the fall. This was before sin had entered into the world.

The book of Romans

-there is not one righteous
-there is not one good
-all are under sin

This is on top of all the other scripture I had posted and that is barely scratching the surface. The depravity of man is a keystone doctrine in soteriology which is why man needed a savior in the first place.

Ps 14:2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, [and] seek God.
Ps 14:3 They are all gone aside, they are [all] together become filthy: [there is] none that doeth good, no, not one.

 

[Maes17]

We are selfish animals with a violent evolution and self interest tends to go first but the majority are not evil or destructive. On a person to person basis violent crime is relatively rare actually, and we never would have survived the wild and thousands of years of civilization and recorded history without co-operation. To say we are born evil as the Christians do is a sick and twisted outlook that leads to a self fulfilling prophecy. For the most part we all have the ability to modify and change our behavior and to do better. It just takes work. Most of our problems come from hierarchies and the desire to dominate that comes with it.

Mutual aid: a factor of evolution - Peter Kropotkin

Russian anarchist Peter Kropotkin's massively influential work on mutual aid and co-operation as a factor in evolution, written in 1902.

libcom.org

Yeah. I was thinking this.

We’re classified by race, class, etc.
The thing is once we start breaking down into sub groups. Family, friends, then they tend to develop a tribe like mentality.

We have differences but are mostly the same. And I’ll go by this again. We grew up from different perspectives. There is an American culture or whatever country you call home. Then culture tends to vary by region. Counties, states etc.

The more connected and interacting you are. The less the world seems scary and those stereotypes become less harsh

 

[Lyfe]

One can be good I suppose according to mans standards or of the standards of the world, but this standard falls infinitely short of Gods standard and knowing the world is the way it is why do we give so much value to mans standard of good and evil anyways? Why do we trust man to be able to properly discern and judge good and evil when we consider the history of fallen man? Man cannot be a reliable source or standard that we ought to be judging by when we live in an age where we wink at 42 million aborted babies just last year alone. Gods standard is the only one that counts... Man cannot properly judge or discern good and evil when he is the source of all that is on this world... It is his very measure of good and evil that has failed the world and never been able to estabalish any real lasting peace...

 

[Lisa]

Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune

Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune

Just as ISIS claimed territory, antifa seized part of Seattle. They took the police HQ and set up an "autonomous zone" called "Free Capitol Hill."

pjmedia.com

 

[Lisa]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1269755070809284609

 

[vancityeagle]

this is literally all about triggering the right wing

that is what is going on right now is that they are being triggered/manipulated to engage in their reptilian brain

this is literally what happens every time progress is made, they get triggered and outraged by that and engage in a reactionary movement


when the anti-slavery Lincoln was elected the racist mindset got triggered and they tried to break away from the US

when slavery was finally abolished and reconstruction began they got triggered and formed the terrorist KKK

when the progressive policies of the "New Deal" were formed in 1933 they got triggered and formed a fascist movement which tried to overthrow FDR in the "Business Plot"

when civil right started and racial integration began, they got triggered and formed groups like the John Birch Society, and the 3rd generation of KKK

when the civil right act, and voting acts were passed in 1965, they got triggered and left the Democratic party for the Republican party

when the first black president was elected, they got triggered and formed the "Tea Party" backed with Koch money

when society became more progressive, they got triggered and formed the "alt right" and MAGA

Now when society looks to correct racism and police brutality, again they are getting triggered by this progress

They are triggered by progress, because they wish to maintain white privilege, so they get easily manipulated and triggered into rage, anger, and hatred by any progress.

One of the elite factions claim to be for this progress. Of course this in disingenous when you really look at it, but I think a big part of their support for "progress" is that THEY KNOW it will trigger the public who are under the control/spell of the right wing faction of elites, and thus the plan all along is to trigger these people.

 

[Lisa]

they get triggered and outraged by that and engage in a reactionary movement

Who really gets triggered and engages in a reactionary movement?
Occupy...Antifa...Blm...

 

[Sarge]

Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune

Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune

Just as ISIS claimed territory, antifa seized part of Seattle. They took the police HQ and set up an "autonomous zone" called "Free Capitol Hill."

pjmedia.com

Sensationalism, comparing Antifa to Isis lol

Never read articles from this news source but now i will actively avoid it.

 

[seekinheart]

Liberal fascism. a few liberal facists in here.

 

[Wigi]

On a person to person basis violent crime is relatively rare actually, and we never would have survived the wild and thousands of years of civilization and recorded history without co-operation

But cooperation is not possible without spiritual or ethnic cohesion.
Without religion, there is no civilization but we have individuals seeking to do what's best for them.
In a multicultural and multiethnic society, people tend to act by tribalism and see themselves as communities so there is no cooperation.

 

[seekinheart]

The media and celebs most certainly do try to sell you a narrative but it doesn't mean they don't hijack well and just meaned movements. The media is simply taking a real issue, racism, and twisting it to suit their motives, which is to sow division among the masses.

Not really, considering they are the ones highlighting the issue above all else.

Let me ask u a question.

If a man dies, in a car accident, but an emphasis is placed on the make of the vehicle, and the road he died. And just last week a man died in the exact same way but he was driving a different car, and yet the outcry was non-existent.

Would u not think u were being manipulated? because that is exactly what has been happening all along with this stuff. I think its funny apparently you know pizza gate is a huge psy op, as stated by vancityeagle, but the media cant concoct stories and out them as if they are seemingly "organic". And yet everyone of these damn, victims has some weird ties to celebrities and freemasonry. Wish people would wake up, they have been PUSHING this narrative for a WHILE, now. And thats why alot of BLACK PEOPLE are not falling for it.

U see how Just Jess I give an opinion on the frustrated with the lack of awareness for OTHER issues, and the emphasis placed on black ones only, more than any other kind of oppression. I am deemed a racist. This is the abandonment of all nuanced thought, and a programmed response. You have literally been programmed to think that. This makes people fearful to air there views because of virtue signalling, and outcastment.

When did sharing the sentiment of highlight an unbalanced awareness on prejudicial issues make you a racist? Even if that is something right wingers use, it doesnt invalidate the argument and it in of itself does not make u racist.

This is indoctrination, and im sure it will lead to other prejudices down the line like - Rejection of christianity and intolerance for the views of biblical based christianity. it is all a big mk ultra indoctrination to get them to the end goal, which is outlaw Christ, this is just an initial wave next they will establish associations that ur mind will connect so again liberalism = antiracist, prolgbqt, proabortion, provaccine, protranshuman. Exposing the masses to the new way of life one step at a time, first layer is establish ur associations of what u reject based on just that! Donald trump = christian, orange man bad = christians bad = no room for christianity, in the new liberal world = we will tear down all christian statues churches bibles to make way for our new world.

 

[elsbet]

Maybe the love of many has grown cold?

Ann Coulter wrote a book years ago about the mob being demonic. It’s interesting how people bent on hate, bitterness and retribution will attack others and their livelihoods and call it justified.

The one highlighting the absolute tragedy (and absurdity) of the French Revolution? Nevermind the cruelty. Mob rules-- agreed... utterly demonic.

 

[Faker He-Man]

Do you think the average person would be willing to consent to every thought that went through their head within a days span to be made out in the open and manifest to everyone?

The notion that thoughts are inaccessible is only an illusion. Telepathy is absolutely real, but is blocked by unconscious belief for the majority of people. In higher realms, all thoughts are known because all communication is instantaneous when there is no need for speech or text.

How many malicious and vengeful thoughts do you suppose run through the hearts of the forum users here toward other users? Man is his thoughts and his actions.

May I suggest learning meditation? You can weed your garden but it takes work, just like actual gardening.

 

[Tikawanda]

Who really gets triggered and engages in a reactionary movement?
Occupy...Antifa...Blm...

It's interesting how you completely ignore right-wing extremism such as the dozens of mass shootings in the past few years by alt-right individuals (both in the US and abroad), or that militia group that stormed the Michigan state capitol armed with rifles back in April, or more recently the Ku Klux Klan leader who ran over protesters a few days ago.

I could go on, but I don't have time to list every example of extremism from the right. So spare us your fear mongering about the left.

 

[thursdayafternoon]

Who Decides Who and What Is Essential and Which Lives Matter?

Who Decides Who and What Is Essential and Which Lives Matter, Requiem en Pace Officer David Dorn, George Floyd, Planned Parenthood, Abortion, black-on-black murder

canadafreepress.com

A retired police captain named David Dorn was shot to death in St. Louis. David Dorn was a black man, responding to a call for assistance to check the security system at a local small business. He arrived to find looters who shot him, and there is video of Officer Dorn bleeding out.

All I am seeking is consistency. If Black Lives Matter, then they matter all the time, in every instance. And truthfully, All Lives Matter! Several Black teenagers brutally stabbed to death 18-year-old Barnard College student Tessa Majors, a young white female, in New York City. Her life matters. Yet there were no marches, riots, violence, looting. Was it a hate crime, racism? That is of no consequence — she was targeted and killed.

I don't think there's really that much controversy about the numbers. Even liberals admit 52% of the homicides are committed by blacks.

From Wiki:

Homicide[edit]
According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with Whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost eight times higher than Whites, and the victim rate six times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of White victims killed by Whites and 93% of African American victims killed by African Americans.[60][61][62]

You probably have 36 and 52 inversed.

When 52 percent of all murders are committed by black people, nobody talks about matter of lives, or "defunds" any group.

 

[justjess]

Liberal fascism. a few liberal facists in here.

You can’t just redefine words to suit you.

 

[Kung Fu]

Not really, considering they are the ones highlighting the issue above all else.

Let me ask u a question.

If a man dies, in a car accident, but an emphasis is placed on the make of the vehicle, and the road he died. And just last week a man died in the exact same way but he was driving a different car, and yet the outcry was non-existent.

Would u not think u were being manipulated? because that is exactly what has been happening all along with this stuff. I think its funny apparently you know pizza gate is a huge psy op, as stated by vancityeagle, but the media cant concoct stories and out them as if they are seemingly "organic". And yet everyone of these damn, victims has some weird ties to celebrities and freemasonry. Wish people would wake up, they have been PUSHING this narrative for a WHILE, now. And thats why alot of BLACK PEOPLE are not falling for it.

U see how Just Jess I give an opinion on the frustrated with the lack of awareness for OTHER issues, and the emphasis placed on black ones only, more than any other kind of oppression. I am deemed a racist. This is the abandonment of all nuanced thought, and a programmed response. You have literally been programmed to think that. This makes people fearful to air there views because of virtue signalling, and outcastment.

When did sharing the sentiment of highlight an unbalanced awareness on prejudicial issues make you a racist? Even if that is something right wingers use, it doesnt invalidate the argument and it in of itself does not make u racist.

This is indoctrination, and im sure it will lead to other prejudices down the line like - Rejection of christianity and intolerance for the views of biblical based christianity. it is all a big mk ultra indoctrination to get them to the end goal, which is outlaw Christ, this is just an initial wave next they will establish associations that ur mind will connect so again liberalism = antiracist, prolgbqt, proabortion, provaccine, protranshuman. Exposing the masses to the new way of life one step at a time, first layer is establish ur associations of what u reject based on just that! Donald trump = christian, orange man bad = christians bad = no room for christianity, in the new liberal world = we will tear down all christian statues churches bibles to make way for our new world.

Do you actually believe black people are not the ones highlighting the issues they face? If they're not, and you think it's solely the media, than how would you explain Malcolm X, MLKJ, and all the academic peer reviewed work on the racism that black people and other minorities face?

You also, brought liberalism into this. Does fighting racism mean you're a liberal now and does being a racist mean you're a conservative?

 

[justjess]

This city disbanded its police department 7 years ago. Here's what happened next

Camden, New Jersey, dissolved its police department and replaced it after corruption rendered the existing agency unfixable. Now, seven years later, the city's crime has dropped by close to half.

www.cnn.com

list of over 600 documented on video instances of police violence/brutality Over the last week or so with links to video. Ignore that:

GeorgeFloyd Protest - police brutality videos on Twitter - Google Drive

docs.google.com