Artful Revealer
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xD That's nothing. Obviously cops are going to prefer Proud Boys over Antifa or BLM. Which sane person wouldn't?Nonreligious Questions
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I mean, if this is an uprising against police violence (apart from races), there's no point in talking about the "black revolution" or provoking the black people. because all the anger provoked (and justified) is related to the assumption that the victim of violence is black people. There would be no vandalism, mostly from blacks.People should absolutely have rose up for Tony Timpa. They didn't. But since people are rising up for George Floyd. there's actually a chance to change things and if you don't take that chance... Well, you're letting Tony Timpa down, since the person being propped up as a martyr matters less than the cause
I have read all.I’m not sure what else you’re looking for. I even quoted the portion that mentions the relevant data. Here it is again, if that helps:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11524-020-00430-0
“Conversely, class 6 (low threat, likely unarmed), which are LIH characterized by an apparent absence of force used by the victim, is the only class in which the plurality of victims is a non-white race (black, non-Hispanic). This finding comports with prior LIH research that finds that black Americans are not only disproportionately likely to be killed by law enforcement but are disproportionately unlikely to present an objective threat of deadly force (as measured both directly by mention of use of force by victim in incident narratives and by proxy through victim’s armed status)”
False 1: It ignores the crime rate differences between races. And it doesn't mention the proportion of races in all cases that clash with the police.
Yes, I understood that, but where do you get them from? This is important, because it would explain a lot if you actually believe these are the numbers.36% of homicides were committed by blacks52% of murder victims were black
You are purposefully minimizing a real problem in my country and maybe it’s easy to do so because you don’t live here but the ties between the police and white nationalist groups are problematic and dangerous and a big part of the problem hetexD That's nothing. Obviously cops are going to prefer Proud Boys over Antifa or BLM. Which sane person wouldn't?
Yes, but that's just a summary of their findings from the study. If you want the specifics and data why not go into the next section, which talks about the different variables and if you're still not happy, the appendices and then look at the methodology? And if you're still not satisfied contact the commission by email or phone and ask them the names of the people they looked into and etc.You mean there?
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Yeah, that's just a statement. There's no data or table that shows us sentences with criminal history as a variable.
Black-on-white crime is 9,17 times greater than the reverse, gross, ie. not proportionate to population distribution (else it'd be 45,8 times greater). But I'm minimizing a real problem? Ok. lolYou are purposefully minimizing a real problem in my country and maybe it’s easy to do so because you don’t live here but the ties between the police and white nationalist groups are problematic and dangerous and a big part of the problem hete
It was an article, that I for some reason can’t find again. These are the fbi stats - they are different. They are also still not complete.Yes, I understood that, but where do you get them from? This is important, because it would explain a lot if you actually believe these are the numbers.
That's what I meant. There's no data in this study about criminal history. That little paragraph is all they say on it.Yes, but that's just a summary of their findings from the study. If you want the specifics and data why not go into the next section, which talks about the different variables and if you're still not happy, the appendices and then look at the methodology? And if you're still not satisfied contact the commission by email or phone and ask them the names of the people they looked into and etc.
I guess it’s not possible to have more than one problem at a time. Who knew?Black-on-white crime is 9,17 times greater than the reverse, gross, ie. not proportionate to population distribution (else it'd be 45,8 times greater). But I'm minimizing a real problem? Ok. lol
Impossible. The key findings are just summary snippets of the study. It has to be in the variables section or in the appendices. An organization such as them would be crucified if they didn't have the information they claimed to have.That's what I meant. There's no data in this study about criminal history. That little paragraph is all they say on it.
I don't think there's really that much controversy about the numbers. Even liberals admit 52% of the homicides are committed by blacks.It was an article, that I for some reason can’t find again. These are the fbi stats - they are different. They are also still not complete.
Expanded Homicide
ucr.fbi.gov
Another one.It was an article, that I for some reason can’t find again. These are the fbi stats - they are different. They are also still not complete.
Expanded Homicide
ucr.fbi.gov
It’s 52 and 52 - I was honest and said the fbi stats disagreed with the earlier article I saw.I don't think there's really that much controversy about the numbers. Even liberals admit 52% of the homicides are committed by blacks.
From Wiki:
Homicide[edit]
According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with Whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost eight times higher than Whites, and the victim rate six times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of White victims killed by Whites and 93% of African American victims killed by African Americans.[60][61][62]
You probably have 36 and 52 inversed.
Okay, maybe I'm missing something then?Impossible. The key findings are just summary snippets of the study. It has to be in the variables section or in the appendices. An organization such as them would be crucified if they didn't have the information they claimed to have.
52% the perpetrator and 52% the victim? If that's what you meant, that's mathematically impossible when you look at interracial crime stats.It’s 52 and 52 - I was honest and said the fbi stats disagreed with the earlier article I saw.
That’s what the fbi stats say. Don’t shoot the messenger. The highest category is black on black so maybe that splits the difference.52% the perpetrator and 52% the victim? If that's what you meant, that's mathematically impossible when you look at interracial crime stats.
They're the United States Sentencing Commission and so they wouldn't make a claim like that without having the proof, which they clearly do since they have all the sentencing records at their disposal. I believe their next section after their intro talks about the different variables so check there and if not check the appendices under methodology. If you still can't find it contact the commissioners. All their names are on the first page. Maybe you can be the first one to catch them slipping since no else has in regards to this studyOkay, maybe I'm missing something then?
Can you find it because I swear the paragraph in those key findings is all there is. They even say that such data only existed in 2016, if I understand correctly.