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It isn’t indisputable, you are wrong in this, according to scripture anyway.
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Purim is 10th March this year, strange that Iran wants to emulate the spirit of Haman...
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US ‘troubled’ by report Iranians want to raze tomb of Mordechai and Esther
Militant student group in Hamadan proposes turning Purim heroes' tomb into Palestinian consulate in response to Trump plan; local official says site protected
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From T.W. Tramm
ONE DAY SOON, a trumpet blast will be heard around the world.
To some it will be the most beautiful and exhilarating sound they’ve ever heard—a euphonious declaration of freedom, restoration, and the fulfillment of every promise Jesus made. To others it will be the most shocking and terrifying sound they’ve ever heard as they realize in that instant that the God of the Bible is real—that He is really coming back—and that they don’t know Him.
Time is running out. If you don’t know Jesus, call on Him today. Confess with your mouth that He is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, and you will be saved (Romans 10:9-10).
. . .
ONE DAY SOON, a trumpet blast will be heard around the world.
To some it will be the most beautiful and exhilarating sound they’ve ever heard—a euphonious declaration of freedom, restoration, and the fulfillment of every promise Jesus made. To others it will be the most shocking and terrifying sound they’ve ever heard as they realize in that instant that the God of the Bible is real—that He is really coming back—and that they don’t know Him.
Time is running out. If you don’t know Jesus, call on Him today. Confess with your mouth that He is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, and you will be saved (Romans 10:9-10).
. . .
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AMEN! But it is so sad of the religious that will not hear the Trumpet.
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From TW Tramm (a provocative conjecture)
IN Daniel’s 70 Weeks Prophecy, a countdown to Messiah begins with a rebuilding of Jerusalem:
“From the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem until the Messiah the Prince, shall be seven weeks and sixty two weeks; the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublesome times” (Dan. 9:25).
Counting the 7 and 62 weeks (483 years) from Artaxerxes’ commandment to rebuild Jerusalem in 457 BC, we arrive at 27 AD, the year Jesus was anointed Messiah.
Thus, Daniel’s prophecy straightforwardly predicts the year of Messiah’s first coming.
As remarkable as it is that Daniel foretells the year of Jesus’ first advent, there is reason to suspect a second layer of foretelling. Since there are two comings of Messiah, and the prophecy addresses Israel’s final redemption in the last days (v. 24), it would make sense for the timing of His second advent to be addressed as well.
THE WALL SHALL BE BUILT AGAIN
Daniel mentions the walls around Jerusalem being rebuilt in troublous times.
The walls surrounding modern-day Jerusalem were ordered rebuilt by the Ottoman Sultan “Suleiman the Magnificent” in 1536-37 AD, during troublous times.
The story goes that Suleiman’s order to rebuild the walls was prompted by a series of dreams in which he was being chased by lions who seemed intent on devouring him. In one dream the Sultan finally stopped running and faced the lions, asking what he should do to save his life. He was told he should build the wall of Jerusalem.
While we don’t know precisely when Suleiman gave the original order to rebuild, inscriptions on the fountains (sabils) and walls indicate he ordered their particular construction in 1536 and 1537.
This is where things get interesting. When we add Daniel’s 7 and 62 weeks (483 years) to 1536-37, we arrive at the present time: 2019-20.
Is it possible Daniel’s 483 years have a dual application, that similar to how Messiah appeared 483 years after the first rebuilding of Jerusalem in 457 BC, He will make a second appearance 483 years after the rebuilding of Jerusalem’s walls in 1536-37 AD?
SEPARATING THE WEEKS
Since no word of Scripture is without meaning, we understand that Daniel’s 7 weeks and 62 weeks are mentioned separately for a reason.
Taking the weeks separately, when we add the 62 weeks (434 years) to 1536-37 AD, we arrive at 1970-71 AD.
This is interesting because 1970 is the year in which another order to rebuild Jerusalem went forth following the recapture of the Holy City by Israeli forces in 1967. Articles and documents from the time show that while the planning and clearing of rubble in preparation for the rebuilding of Jerusalem began soon after the Israeli takeover in 1967, the plan to rebuild the Holy City, composed by a team of architects, engineers, and administrators, was not approved and publicly communicated until late August, 1970.
That two historic orders to rebuild Jerusalem—1536-37 AD and 1970-71 AD—are separated by exactly 62 weeks (434 years) suggests that both are integral to Daniel’s prophecy.
Counting the remaining set of weeks—the 7 weeks, or 49 years—from 1970, we, again, arrive at 2020.
While speculative, it’s awe-inspiring to consider that the two sets of weeks, 7 and 62, together and independently may reveal the years of two appearances of Messiah following two historical restorations of Jerusalem.
CONVERGENCE
2020 is an auspicious year for multiple reasons.
First, adding 7 years, the span of the tribulation period to this year, 2027 becomes the time of Israel’s final redemption, when the “everlasting righteousness” referred to in Daniel is realized (v. 24).
What’s fascinating is that 2027 also marks exactly 2,000 years since Jesus’ anointing as Messiah in 27 AD. Israel’s final redemption occurring after 2,000 years, or two (thousand-year) “days,” is alluded to in Hosea: “After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will raise us up, that we may live before him” (Hos. 6:2).
Another reason 2020 is pivotal is that it marks the 3-year anniversary of major prophetic signs:
• The Great American Eclipse (August 21, 2017).
• Jared Kushner’s first trip to the Middle East to start work on a plan to achieve “peace and security” (August 21, 2017).
• The Revelation 12 Sign (September 23, 2017).
That 2020 marks the third anniversary of the above signs is significant because the number 3 is associated with key rapture themes and typologies such as weddings, resurrection, a period of warning, and the Lord descending in a cloud with the sound of a trumpet:
• Jesus attended a wedding on the third day (John 2:1).
• Jesus was resurrected on the third day (1 Cor. 15:4).
• It took Jonah 3 days to warn the Ninevites of impending judgment (Jonah 3).
• At Sinai, God told the Israelites to sanctify themselves for the third day, on which He would descend in a cloud and, with the sound of a trumpet, call Moses up to meet Him (Ex. 19:10-20).
Notice the three-day pattern. In Daniel’s 70 Weeks Prophecy, as well as other places in Scripture, a day is symbolic of a year of actual time. Thus 3 days is equivalent to 3 years.
Additionally, the number 3, which is fundamental to the nature of a God who is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, denotes divine perfection and completion. According to E.W. Bullinger in his book Numbers in Scripture, the number 3 points to what is “real, essential, perfect, substantial, complete, and Divine …. all things that are specially complete are stamped with this number three.”
With the three-day pattern in view, the third anniversary of major biblical signs—2020—is a logical time for the event signaled to occur.
SUMMARY AND CONCLUSION
Having noted how 2020 marks a plausible second endpoint of Daniel’s 7 and 62 weeks, we understand that when cryptic prophecies, year-counts, ancient dating, and various calendars are involved, a degree of uncertainty exists as to exact times. That is to say, the Gregorian calendar year 2020 should not be seen as an absolute deadline or cut-off date for Jesus’ return.
Nonetheless, the overall convergence of signs and timelines indicates we are indeed on the cusp of the final turning point in God's Program for the Church and Israel. The Rapture of true believers in Christ at the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week will be followed by a period of terror and chaos unlike anything seen before.
The upside of this terrible time is that it will culminate in Israel’s redemption via Messiah Jesus, conceivably a mere 7 years from now.
Not only are we in a potentially pivotal year, we’re in a pivotal season. Numerous scriptures link summer to the end of the age and the onset of Judgment Day (Matt. 24:32; Amos 8:1, 2; Jer. 8:20; Mic. 7:1-2). Summer begins around Pentecost and ends at the autumnal equinox in September.
While a popular view is that the Rapture will occur on the Day of Pentecost, it’s prudent to view the harvest festival with no fixed or assigned date as a “season.” The outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the Church’s first Pentecost in Acts 2 represented the planting of a “field,” the Church-field, which has been growing and maturing throughout a nearly 2,000-year long “summer.”
Assuming the Lord plans to put off the reaping of the Church-field as long as possible to allow maximum time for repentance, it’s conceivable He could wait until late summer when the last of the spring-planted wheat is harvestable, and the summer fruits—representing Israel and nonbelievers—are likewise ready for harvesting and processing.
With the “season” paradigm in view, Pentecost may not be considered “fully come” until summer’s end, on a day no one knows (Acts 2:2; Mark 13:32).
The end of summer 2020 is thus a plausible time for the Rapture:
• It’s been 483 years (7 and 62 weeks) since the order to rebuild Jerusalem’s walls in 1536-37 (Dan. 9:25).
• It’s been 49 years (7 weeks) since a plan to rebuild Jerusalem in 1970 (Dan. 9:25).
• It’s been 3 years since major signs in the heavens (Luke 21:25; Joel 2:31; Rev. 12).
Additionally—
• It’s been 6,000 years, or 120 jubilees, since biblical creation (Gen. 6:3; 2 Pet. 3:8).
• It’s been 70-plus years, the span of a biblical generation, since the “fig tree,” the Nation of Israel, began putting forth leaves (Matt. 24:32-34; Ps. 90:10).
• The stage is set for the Ezekiel 38 conflict, the emergence of the 10-nation antichrist, or “beast,” governing system, and the global economic collapse alluded to in Revelation (6:6; 13:7; 17:12-14).
• Multiple peace deals between Israel and her Arab-Muslim neighbors are on the table or in the works (1 Thess. 5:3).
All that remains to happen before the Church is suddenly snatched up into the clouds is the sounding of God’s trumpet.
When that awesome trumpet sounds, there will be only two kinds of people on earth: those escaping judgment and those being left behind to face it (Luke 21:34-36).
To be part of the escaping group, one must be in a saving relationship with Jesus Christ. If you’re unsure of your standing with God, call on Him now. Tell Him you want to turn away from your sins. Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord; believe that God raised Him from the dead, and you will be saved (Romans 10).
Do it today.
Time is running out.
. . .
NOTES:
1. A “week,” in the context of Daniel’s prophecy, refers to a 7-year period. Thus, 7 weeks represent a period of 49 years; 62 weeks represent a period of 434 years; and 69 weeks represent a period of 483 years.
2. Jesus became the Messiah, a word meaning “Anointed One,” at His baptism when God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit (Luke 3:21-22). This pivotal event marked the beginning of Christ's earthly ministry as Messiah (Luke 4:18-19; Acts 10:37-38).
3. Below is the construction timeline for Jerusalem’s walls and fountains. While construction continued until 1541, Daniel’s prophecy specifies that the countdown to Messiah begins with the “going forth of the commandment” to rebuild (Dan. 9:25). The fountains (sabils) were ordered rebuilt in 1536. The walls were ordered rebuilt in 1537.
The fountain (sabil) on the SW side of the Jaffa Gate - 29th June 1536.
The fountain 10 meters West of St. Stephen's Gate (Lion's Gate) - 29th June 1536.
The fountain Sabil al Wad - 14th December 1536.
The fountain Sabil at the Al Nazir Gate - February 12th, 1537.
The North Wall - 1537.
Jaffa Gate - 1538.
Damascus Gate - 1538.
Lion's Gate - 1538-1539.
Herod's Gate - 1539.
South Wall - 1540.
Completion of construction - end 1541.
4. Possible dual fulfillment scenario in Daniel’s 70 Weeks Prophecy:
457 BC (Artaxerxes’ command to rebuild) + 483 years = 27 AD (First appearance of Messiah)
1536-37 AD (Suleiman’s order to rebuild) + 483 years = 2019-20 AD (Second appearance of Messiah?)
5. New York Times article dated August 21, 1970: “Jerusalem is Hewing To Rebuilding Plans”:
www.nytimes.com
6. Interestingly, there are exactly 1,900 years between the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in August 70 AD and the Holy City’s rebuilding in August 1970. According to Bullinger, the number 19 denotes the perfection of Divine order connected with judgment.
7. A thousand years is symbolic of a single day in Scripture: “But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day” (2 Peter 3:8).
IN Daniel’s 70 Weeks Prophecy, a countdown to Messiah begins with a rebuilding of Jerusalem:
“From the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem until the Messiah the Prince, shall be seven weeks and sixty two weeks; the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublesome times” (Dan. 9:25).
Counting the 7 and 62 weeks (483 years) from Artaxerxes’ commandment to rebuild Jerusalem in 457 BC, we arrive at 27 AD, the year Jesus was anointed Messiah.
Thus, Daniel’s prophecy straightforwardly predicts the year of Messiah’s first coming.
As remarkable as it is that Daniel foretells the year of Jesus’ first advent, there is reason to suspect a second layer of foretelling. Since there are two comings of Messiah, and the prophecy addresses Israel’s final redemption in the last days (v. 24), it would make sense for the timing of His second advent to be addressed as well.
THE WALL SHALL BE BUILT AGAIN
Daniel mentions the walls around Jerusalem being rebuilt in troublous times.
The walls surrounding modern-day Jerusalem were ordered rebuilt by the Ottoman Sultan “Suleiman the Magnificent” in 1536-37 AD, during troublous times.
The story goes that Suleiman’s order to rebuild the walls was prompted by a series of dreams in which he was being chased by lions who seemed intent on devouring him. In one dream the Sultan finally stopped running and faced the lions, asking what he should do to save his life. He was told he should build the wall of Jerusalem.
While we don’t know precisely when Suleiman gave the original order to rebuild, inscriptions on the fountains (sabils) and walls indicate he ordered their particular construction in 1536 and 1537.
This is where things get interesting. When we add Daniel’s 7 and 62 weeks (483 years) to 1536-37, we arrive at the present time: 2019-20.
Is it possible Daniel’s 483 years have a dual application, that similar to how Messiah appeared 483 years after the first rebuilding of Jerusalem in 457 BC, He will make a second appearance 483 years after the rebuilding of Jerusalem’s walls in 1536-37 AD?
SEPARATING THE WEEKS
Since no word of Scripture is without meaning, we understand that Daniel’s 7 weeks and 62 weeks are mentioned separately for a reason.
Taking the weeks separately, when we add the 62 weeks (434 years) to 1536-37 AD, we arrive at 1970-71 AD.
This is interesting because 1970 is the year in which another order to rebuild Jerusalem went forth following the recapture of the Holy City by Israeli forces in 1967. Articles and documents from the time show that while the planning and clearing of rubble in preparation for the rebuilding of Jerusalem began soon after the Israeli takeover in 1967, the plan to rebuild the Holy City, composed by a team of architects, engineers, and administrators, was not approved and publicly communicated until late August, 1970.
That two historic orders to rebuild Jerusalem—1536-37 AD and 1970-71 AD—are separated by exactly 62 weeks (434 years) suggests that both are integral to Daniel’s prophecy.
Counting the remaining set of weeks—the 7 weeks, or 49 years—from 1970, we, again, arrive at 2020.
While speculative, it’s awe-inspiring to consider that the two sets of weeks, 7 and 62, together and independently may reveal the years of two appearances of Messiah following two historical restorations of Jerusalem.
CONVERGENCE
2020 is an auspicious year for multiple reasons.
First, adding 7 years, the span of the tribulation period to this year, 2027 becomes the time of Israel’s final redemption, when the “everlasting righteousness” referred to in Daniel is realized (v. 24).
What’s fascinating is that 2027 also marks exactly 2,000 years since Jesus’ anointing as Messiah in 27 AD. Israel’s final redemption occurring after 2,000 years, or two (thousand-year) “days,” is alluded to in Hosea: “After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will raise us up, that we may live before him” (Hos. 6:2).
Another reason 2020 is pivotal is that it marks the 3-year anniversary of major prophetic signs:
• The Great American Eclipse (August 21, 2017).
• Jared Kushner’s first trip to the Middle East to start work on a plan to achieve “peace and security” (August 21, 2017).
• The Revelation 12 Sign (September 23, 2017).
That 2020 marks the third anniversary of the above signs is significant because the number 3 is associated with key rapture themes and typologies such as weddings, resurrection, a period of warning, and the Lord descending in a cloud with the sound of a trumpet:
• Jesus attended a wedding on the third day (John 2:1).
• Jesus was resurrected on the third day (1 Cor. 15:4).
• It took Jonah 3 days to warn the Ninevites of impending judgment (Jonah 3).
• At Sinai, God told the Israelites to sanctify themselves for the third day, on which He would descend in a cloud and, with the sound of a trumpet, call Moses up to meet Him (Ex. 19:10-20).
Notice the three-day pattern. In Daniel’s 70 Weeks Prophecy, as well as other places in Scripture, a day is symbolic of a year of actual time. Thus 3 days is equivalent to 3 years.
Additionally, the number 3, which is fundamental to the nature of a God who is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, denotes divine perfection and completion. According to E.W. Bullinger in his book Numbers in Scripture, the number 3 points to what is “real, essential, perfect, substantial, complete, and Divine …. all things that are specially complete are stamped with this number three.”
With the three-day pattern in view, the third anniversary of major biblical signs—2020—is a logical time for the event signaled to occur.
SUMMARY AND CONCLUSION
Having noted how 2020 marks a plausible second endpoint of Daniel’s 7 and 62 weeks, we understand that when cryptic prophecies, year-counts, ancient dating, and various calendars are involved, a degree of uncertainty exists as to exact times. That is to say, the Gregorian calendar year 2020 should not be seen as an absolute deadline or cut-off date for Jesus’ return.
Nonetheless, the overall convergence of signs and timelines indicates we are indeed on the cusp of the final turning point in God's Program for the Church and Israel. The Rapture of true believers in Christ at the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week will be followed by a period of terror and chaos unlike anything seen before.
The upside of this terrible time is that it will culminate in Israel’s redemption via Messiah Jesus, conceivably a mere 7 years from now.
Not only are we in a potentially pivotal year, we’re in a pivotal season. Numerous scriptures link summer to the end of the age and the onset of Judgment Day (Matt. 24:32; Amos 8:1, 2; Jer. 8:20; Mic. 7:1-2). Summer begins around Pentecost and ends at the autumnal equinox in September.
While a popular view is that the Rapture will occur on the Day of Pentecost, it’s prudent to view the harvest festival with no fixed or assigned date as a “season.” The outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the Church’s first Pentecost in Acts 2 represented the planting of a “field,” the Church-field, which has been growing and maturing throughout a nearly 2,000-year long “summer.”
Assuming the Lord plans to put off the reaping of the Church-field as long as possible to allow maximum time for repentance, it’s conceivable He could wait until late summer when the last of the spring-planted wheat is harvestable, and the summer fruits—representing Israel and nonbelievers—are likewise ready for harvesting and processing.
With the “season” paradigm in view, Pentecost may not be considered “fully come” until summer’s end, on a day no one knows (Acts 2:2; Mark 13:32).
The end of summer 2020 is thus a plausible time for the Rapture:
• It’s been 483 years (7 and 62 weeks) since the order to rebuild Jerusalem’s walls in 1536-37 (Dan. 9:25).
• It’s been 49 years (7 weeks) since a plan to rebuild Jerusalem in 1970 (Dan. 9:25).
• It’s been 3 years since major signs in the heavens (Luke 21:25; Joel 2:31; Rev. 12).
Additionally—
• It’s been 6,000 years, or 120 jubilees, since biblical creation (Gen. 6:3; 2 Pet. 3:8).
• It’s been 70-plus years, the span of a biblical generation, since the “fig tree,” the Nation of Israel, began putting forth leaves (Matt. 24:32-34; Ps. 90:10).
• The stage is set for the Ezekiel 38 conflict, the emergence of the 10-nation antichrist, or “beast,” governing system, and the global economic collapse alluded to in Revelation (6:6; 13:7; 17:12-14).
• Multiple peace deals between Israel and her Arab-Muslim neighbors are on the table or in the works (1 Thess. 5:3).
All that remains to happen before the Church is suddenly snatched up into the clouds is the sounding of God’s trumpet.
When that awesome trumpet sounds, there will be only two kinds of people on earth: those escaping judgment and those being left behind to face it (Luke 21:34-36).
To be part of the escaping group, one must be in a saving relationship with Jesus Christ. If you’re unsure of your standing with God, call on Him now. Tell Him you want to turn away from your sins. Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord; believe that God raised Him from the dead, and you will be saved (Romans 10).
Do it today.
Time is running out.
. . .
NOTES:
1. A “week,” in the context of Daniel’s prophecy, refers to a 7-year period. Thus, 7 weeks represent a period of 49 years; 62 weeks represent a period of 434 years; and 69 weeks represent a period of 483 years.
2. Jesus became the Messiah, a word meaning “Anointed One,” at His baptism when God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit (Luke 3:21-22). This pivotal event marked the beginning of Christ's earthly ministry as Messiah (Luke 4:18-19; Acts 10:37-38).
3. Below is the construction timeline for Jerusalem’s walls and fountains. While construction continued until 1541, Daniel’s prophecy specifies that the countdown to Messiah begins with the “going forth of the commandment” to rebuild (Dan. 9:25). The fountains (sabils) were ordered rebuilt in 1536. The walls were ordered rebuilt in 1537.
The fountain (sabil) on the SW side of the Jaffa Gate - 29th June 1536.
The fountain 10 meters West of St. Stephen's Gate (Lion's Gate) - 29th June 1536.
The fountain Sabil al Wad - 14th December 1536.
The fountain Sabil at the Al Nazir Gate - February 12th, 1537.
The North Wall - 1537.
Jaffa Gate - 1538.
Damascus Gate - 1538.
Lion's Gate - 1538-1539.
Herod's Gate - 1539.
South Wall - 1540.
Completion of construction - end 1541.
4. Possible dual fulfillment scenario in Daniel’s 70 Weeks Prophecy:
457 BC (Artaxerxes’ command to rebuild) + 483 years = 27 AD (First appearance of Messiah)
1536-37 AD (Suleiman’s order to rebuild) + 483 years = 2019-20 AD (Second appearance of Messiah?)
5. New York Times article dated August 21, 1970: “Jerusalem is Hewing To Rebuilding Plans”:
Jerusalem Is Hewing To Rebuilding Plans (Published 1970)
District Town Planning Com master plan to rehabilitate old quarters of city approved; plans for redevelopment, which will cover 2,500 acres of city that was ruled by Jordan until '67 but not interfere with any holy places, detailed; Western Wall illus
6. Interestingly, there are exactly 1,900 years between the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in August 70 AD and the Holy City’s rebuilding in August 1970. According to Bullinger, the number 19 denotes the perfection of Divine order connected with judgment.
7. A thousand years is symbolic of a single day in Scripture: “But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day” (2 Peter 3:8).
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That’s exciting. 
Yes well we know Jesus was crucified on a friday on the Lord's Passover which is always Nisan 14... which fell on a friday in 33 AD. And since Jesus ministry lasted 3.5 years... He was baptized in the summer/early autumn in 29 AD.
Luke 3 1 In the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, while Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea, Herod tetrarch of Galilee, his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and Trachonitis, and Lysanias tetrarch of Abilene, 2during the high priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas, the word of God came to John son of Zechariah in the wilderness.
21When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as He was praying, heaven was opened, 22and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in a bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.
Tiberius Caesar began to reign on sept 18 14 AD... and so his 15th regnal year was from sept 18 28 AD to sept 17 29 AD.
You must not have read the account of Nehemiah and the trouble they had when rebuilding the Jerusalem wall.
No the start date for the countdown until the Christ is... the month of Nisan in the twentieth year of King Artaxerxes.
7x360 weeks + 62x360 weeks from Nisan 444 BC come to Nisan 33 AD.
And the start date for the countdown until the antichrist is... when the jews restored control over the Old City on june 7 1967.
7x360 weeks from june 7 1967 come to the Day of Atonement sept 23 2015.
Dan 9 26Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and will have nothing.
Then the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood, and until the end there will be war; desolations have been decreed. 27And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.
On sept 25 2015 the prince of the people who destroyed Jerusalem and the temple... the pope of Rome said he came in his own name and confirmed the global governance Agenda 21 with Agenda 2030 in the United Nations.
Dan 9 26Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and will have nothing.
Then the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood, and until the end there will be war; desolations have been decreed. 27And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.
What this means is up to debate but it certainly has nothing to do with ceasing animal sacrifices in a rebuilt temple.
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From T.W. Tramm’s Facebook page
SEPTEMBER 15, 2020—As an historic peace deal called the Abraham Accord is signed in Washington, rains from Hurricane Sally—the first of 7 storms lined up in the Atlantic—are beginning to pound the US Gulf Coast.
A particularly slow moving storm, Sally is projected to bring historic flooding.
Given the timing, the same day as the Abraham Accord, it’s interesting that the name Sally is a diminutive of the Hebrew Sarah, the name given Abraham’s wife when He entered into an eternal land covenant with God (Gen. 17).
Sally is also a variation of the name Salamon and thus connected to the Hebrew word for “peace.”
The onslaught of calamity plaguing the US—fires, floods, racial unrest, and a pandemic with a host of negative consequences— has some Christians wondering whether it’s related to the Trump Administration’s peace efforts in the Middle East, which aim to create a separate Palestinian state inside the borders of Israel.
God says he will judge those who divide the Land:
“I will … gather all the Gentiles, and bring them down to the Valley of Judgment … [because] these Gentiles have divided my land” (Joel 3:2 BST)
Some would argue that the Abraham Accord is not an affront to God because land is not being given away directly.
However, the accord maintains Arab support for the establishment of a Palestinian state and stipulates that Israel will put a freeze on plans to annex the West Bank as was planned to occur this summer.
What happens when Israel has an opportunity to occupy the Land and hesitates?
Ask the Israelites who spent 40 years wandering the wilderness for failing to take the Land in Moses’ day (Num. 13, 14).
In addition to chastening Israel for failing to occupy the Land, God warns His people not to enter into covenants with those already dwelling there:
“Do not make a covenant with them or with their gods. Do not let them live in your land or they will cause you to sin against me, because the worship of their gods will certainly be a snare to you” (Ex. 23: 32-33).
The Land of Israel as defined in Scripture encompasses vast swaths of land presently occupied by worshippers of the false moon-god, Allah. While Scripture makes provision for non-Jews who wish to dwell in the Land in accordance with the Lord’s statutes, those who are unwilling to live by God’s laws, who worship other gods, or who are opposed to Israel, are said to be a snare.
Finally, the Lord commands Israel to destroy any altars in the Land dedicated to false gods (Judges 2:2). Yet the Dome of the Rock, a shrine to Allah, stands on the Temple Mount as a site of blasphemous veneration. Inscriptions on the inner and outer walls of the Islamic shrine profanely state that “Jesus was only a messenger” and that God has no son or “partner in sovereignty.”
Meanwhile, prayer to the God of Israel is strictly prohibited on the Temple Mount by the controlling Islamic religious trust, the Waqf.
Given that the Temple Mount in Jerusalem is the location from which Jesus will reign during the Millennium, one immediately recognizes the problem with an Islamic shrine occupying space there.
It is truly an “abomination that causes desolation.”
And so is the Abraham Accord.
CONCLUSION
The Abraham Accord is in opposition to God’s plan for Israel as it puts a halt on Jewish occupation of the Promised Land and perpetuates the status quo (Islamic control) of the Temple Mount in exchange for political and economic gain, plus a false sense of peace and security.
The Land belongs to the Lord (Lev. 25:23). He has given it to the offspring of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to occupy until He returns. Instead of occupying the Land, however, Israel is pursuing peace with those illegitimately squatting there.
Going forward, it’s difficult to say how the Abraham Accord will play out, which Arab-Muslim countries will join and when. However, for those anticipating the escape we call the Rapture, it may not matter. The sign that Judgment Day is imminent is people saying “peace and safety” (1 Thess. 5:3).
We are already there.
On the eve of the biblical Feast of Trumpets, watchmen are sounding the alarm about a fateful deal being struck in the Middle East.
Tragically, the trumpet blasts are falling on deaf ears.
“They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. ‘Peace, peace,’ they say, when there is no peace …. I appointed watchmen over you and said, ‘Listen to the sound of the trumpet!’ But you said, ‘We will not listen.’ Therefore … I am bringing disaster on this people [Israel], the fruit of their schemes, because they have not listened to my words (Jer. 6: 14, 17-19).
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NOTES:
1. Trump hosts Arab, Israeli leaders to ink historic deal: ‘A new Middle East’
nypost.com
2. A crawling Hurricane Sally is threatening a 'historic rainfall event' in parts of the Gulf Coast
www.cnn.com
3. Sally Etymology:
www.everydayknow.com
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4. Examples of blasphemous “antichrist” inscriptions on the inside of the octagonal arcade of the Dome of the Rock:
“Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His Word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and say not ‘Three’ [trinity] – Cease!”
“God is only One God. Far be it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son.”
Inscription on the outside of the Dome of the Rock:
“God, Who hath not taken unto Himself a son, and Who hath no partner in the Sovereignty, nor hath He any protecting friend through dependence….Muhammad is the Messenger of God.”
ntbc.wordpress.com
5. Daniel and Matthew speak of the “abomination that causes desolation” on the Temple Mount (Dan. 9:27; Matt. 24:15, 16).
6. It should be emphasized that the Abraham Accord is not an affront because it makes peace between Jews and Arabs. Both Jews and Arabs are children of Abraham and loved by God. The accord is an affront because it puts a freeze on Jewish habitation of the Land in opposition to God’s command to inhabit it, in exchange for a false sense of security.
SEPTEMBER 15, 2020—As an historic peace deal called the Abraham Accord is signed in Washington, rains from Hurricane Sally—the first of 7 storms lined up in the Atlantic—are beginning to pound the US Gulf Coast.
A particularly slow moving storm, Sally is projected to bring historic flooding.
Given the timing, the same day as the Abraham Accord, it’s interesting that the name Sally is a diminutive of the Hebrew Sarah, the name given Abraham’s wife when He entered into an eternal land covenant with God (Gen. 17).
Sally is also a variation of the name Salamon and thus connected to the Hebrew word for “peace.”
The onslaught of calamity plaguing the US—fires, floods, racial unrest, and a pandemic with a host of negative consequences— has some Christians wondering whether it’s related to the Trump Administration’s peace efforts in the Middle East, which aim to create a separate Palestinian state inside the borders of Israel.
God says he will judge those who divide the Land:
“I will … gather all the Gentiles, and bring them down to the Valley of Judgment … [because] these Gentiles have divided my land” (Joel 3:2 BST)
Some would argue that the Abraham Accord is not an affront to God because land is not being given away directly.
However, the accord maintains Arab support for the establishment of a Palestinian state and stipulates that Israel will put a freeze on plans to annex the West Bank as was planned to occur this summer.
What happens when Israel has an opportunity to occupy the Land and hesitates?
Ask the Israelites who spent 40 years wandering the wilderness for failing to take the Land in Moses’ day (Num. 13, 14).
In addition to chastening Israel for failing to occupy the Land, God warns His people not to enter into covenants with those already dwelling there:
“Do not make a covenant with them or with their gods. Do not let them live in your land or they will cause you to sin against me, because the worship of their gods will certainly be a snare to you” (Ex. 23: 32-33).
The Land of Israel as defined in Scripture encompasses vast swaths of land presently occupied by worshippers of the false moon-god, Allah. While Scripture makes provision for non-Jews who wish to dwell in the Land in accordance with the Lord’s statutes, those who are unwilling to live by God’s laws, who worship other gods, or who are opposed to Israel, are said to be a snare.
Finally, the Lord commands Israel to destroy any altars in the Land dedicated to false gods (Judges 2:2). Yet the Dome of the Rock, a shrine to Allah, stands on the Temple Mount as a site of blasphemous veneration. Inscriptions on the inner and outer walls of the Islamic shrine profanely state that “Jesus was only a messenger” and that God has no son or “partner in sovereignty.”
Meanwhile, prayer to the God of Israel is strictly prohibited on the Temple Mount by the controlling Islamic religious trust, the Waqf.
Given that the Temple Mount in Jerusalem is the location from which Jesus will reign during the Millennium, one immediately recognizes the problem with an Islamic shrine occupying space there.
It is truly an “abomination that causes desolation.”
And so is the Abraham Accord.
CONCLUSION
The Abraham Accord is in opposition to God’s plan for Israel as it puts a halt on Jewish occupation of the Promised Land and perpetuates the status quo (Islamic control) of the Temple Mount in exchange for political and economic gain, plus a false sense of peace and security.
The Land belongs to the Lord (Lev. 25:23). He has given it to the offspring of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to occupy until He returns. Instead of occupying the Land, however, Israel is pursuing peace with those illegitimately squatting there.
Going forward, it’s difficult to say how the Abraham Accord will play out, which Arab-Muslim countries will join and when. However, for those anticipating the escape we call the Rapture, it may not matter. The sign that Judgment Day is imminent is people saying “peace and safety” (1 Thess. 5:3).
We are already there.
On the eve of the biblical Feast of Trumpets, watchmen are sounding the alarm about a fateful deal being struck in the Middle East.
Tragically, the trumpet blasts are falling on deaf ears.
“They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. ‘Peace, peace,’ they say, when there is no peace …. I appointed watchmen over you and said, ‘Listen to the sound of the trumpet!’ But you said, ‘We will not listen.’ Therefore … I am bringing disaster on this people [Israel], the fruit of their schemes, because they have not listened to my words (Jer. 6: 14, 17-19).
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NOTES:
1. Trump hosts Arab, Israeli leaders to ink historic deal: ‘A new Middle East’
Trump hosts Arab, Israeli leaders to ink historic deal: ‘A new Middle East’
The foreign ministers of the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain joined Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on the White House South Lawn to affirm their recent recognition of Israel’s sta…
nypost.com
2. A crawling Hurricane Sally is threatening a 'historic rainfall event' in parts of the Gulf Coast
Hurricane Sally's slow crawl toward Gulf Coast could trigger 'historic' flooding | CNN
Heavy rain and wind gusts began punishing parts Alabama and Florida on Tuesday as Hurricane Sally slowly creeps toward the US Gulf Coast, where millions of people are preparing for "historic life-threatening flooding."
www.cnn.com
3. Sally Etymology:
60 Baby Names That Mean Peace - EverydayKnow.com
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sally etymology - Google Search
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Sally - Name's Meaning of Sally
Real meaning of Sally. Before giving this name to your baby you should know about its origin and popularity.
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Sally: Baby Name Meaning, Origin, Popularity, More
What is the meaning of Sally? How popular is the baby name Sally? Learn the origin and popularity plus how to pronounce Sally
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4. Examples of blasphemous “antichrist” inscriptions on the inside of the octagonal arcade of the Dome of the Rock:
“Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His Word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and say not ‘Three’ [trinity] – Cease!”
“God is only One God. Far be it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son.”
Inscription on the outside of the Dome of the Rock:
“God, Who hath not taken unto Himself a son, and Who hath no partner in the Sovereignty, nor hath He any protecting friend through dependence….Muhammad is the Messenger of God.”
Inscriptions About Jesus on Islam’s Dome of the Rock, Jerusalem
Inscriptions on the Done of the Rock, Jerusalem Because research was done via Internet, to demonstrate accuracy, two translations are provided. The first translation can be found on an Islamic web…
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5. Daniel and Matthew speak of the “abomination that causes desolation” on the Temple Mount (Dan. 9:27; Matt. 24:15, 16).
6. It should be emphasized that the Abraham Accord is not an affront because it makes peace between Jews and Arabs. Both Jews and Arabs are children of Abraham and loved by God. The accord is an affront because it puts a freeze on Jewish habitation of the Land in opposition to God’s command to inhabit it, in exchange for a false sense of security.
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HALLELUJAH
To the tune by Leonard Cohen
They say the King is coming soon
To call His Bride and bring her home.,
But you don't really think so , do you?
Hallelujah. Hallelujah x4
He's coming from His home on high
The trump shall sound, and we shall fly
And we who love the Lord, will cry...
Hallelujah. Hallelujah x4
Hearts will break and eyes will fill,
Evil moves in for the kill
7 years of pain are coming to you.
Hallelujah. Hallelujah x4
Wake up poor soul, get off the fence
Your gold will prove no recompense.
Now is the time to ask Him to forgive you...
Hallelujah, Hallelujah x4
God’s forgiveness had a cost
Christ died to save the fallen lost
A grace held to me, and to you.
Hallelujah.. Hallelujah x4
Don’t waste this time, seize it fast.
His mercy will not always last' _
The choice is yours, choose Hallelujah. Hallelujah x 8
To the tune by Leonard Cohen
They say the King is coming soon
To call His Bride and bring her home.,
But you don't really think so , do you?
Hallelujah. Hallelujah x4
He's coming from His home on high
The trump shall sound, and we shall fly
And we who love the Lord, will cry...
Hallelujah. Hallelujah x4
Hearts will break and eyes will fill,
Evil moves in for the kill
7 years of pain are coming to you.
Hallelujah. Hallelujah x4
Wake up poor soul, get off the fence
Your gold will prove no recompense.
Now is the time to ask Him to forgive you...
Hallelujah, Hallelujah x4
God’s forgiveness had a cost
Christ died to save the fallen lost
A grace held to me, and to you.
Hallelujah.. Hallelujah x4
Don’t waste this time, seize it fast.
His mercy will not always last' _
The choice is yours, choose Hallelujah. Hallelujah x 8
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Not the End of the World
Katy Perry
It's not the end of the world
No, not the end of the world
Throw on your fancy attire, fears in the fire
Don't lose hope
It's no funeral we're attending [the Rapture, blamed on Aliens?]
Actually, just the beginning
Throw on your fancy attire, fears in the fire
Don't lose hope
It's not the end of the
No, not the end of the world
You can catch a star if the sky is falling down
There's a golden lining up in every single cloud
You can take a frown turn it all the way around
All the way around, all the, all the way around
A fortune teller told me the power's in your mind
You might see a cliff, but I see a way to fly
Flipping off the flop, now I just enjoy the ride
Just enjoy the world, yeah, I just enjoy the ride
Na, na, na, na, what a time
Na, na, na, na, to be alive
Don't say goodbye
It's not the end of the world
No, not the end of the world
Throw on your fancy attire, fears in the fire
Don't lose hope
It's no funeral we're attending
Actually, just the beginning
Throw on your fancy attire, fears in the fire
Don't lose hope
It's not the end of the
No, not the end of the world
You can make a wish even on a satellite
On a plastic lash or anything you like
You can tame a dragon if you're not afraid to fight
Not afraid to fight, no, not afraid
Na, na, na, na, what a time
Na, na, na, na, to be alive
Don't say goodbye (don't say goodbye)
It's not the end of the world
No, not the end of the world
Throw on your fancy attire, fears in the fire
Don't lose hope
It's no funeral we're attending
Actually, just the beginning
Throw on your fancy attire, fears in the fire
Don't lose hope
Na, na, na, na
Na, na, na, na
Don't say goodbye (don't say goodbye)
Na, na, na, na
Na, na, na, na
Don't say goodbye
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As usual the net is on fire with potential Rapture dates, but I think what C.S. Lewis said on the topic some time ago is still a very wise position…
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Just prior to the removal of the Temple on Tisha’ b Av, 70AD, coins were minted. They have just turned up…
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2,000-year-old 'Freedom to Zion' coin found in the Judean Desert
The first coin was made during the Great Revolt around 67AD and features 'Freedom to Zion' one one side, while the other was minted in 134 AD and has 'for the freedom of Jerusalem' on one side.
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How dumb must you beto think that statement in Rev 2 was 'Jesus'?
It was the holy spirit. Jesus is the lamb...he appears in a different context.
Xtians are completely lost and cant even understand basic scripture no more.
It was the holy spirit. Jesus is the lamb...he appears in a different context.
Xtians are completely lost and cant even understand basic scripture no more.